097- Old Souls, New Era： Bringing Untrained Psychic Gifts into Alignment

Welcome to Practical Shamanism. I'm Katie Weatherup. I'm a former engineer with 20 years of experience working as a shamanic practitioner and I hope to help you to connect to your personal power and magic and to support you in living a really good life that just keeps getting better. Thank you so much for joining me. I want to talk about a facet of managing and working with psychic ability that maybe hasn't occurred to you or maybe isn't something that you're being as thoughtful about as you might be and there might be some serious advantages and upgrades to your experience with some adjustments and tweaking. So one of the things that I believe to be true is that we have this amazing era of so many old souls incarnating at the same time and I think that there's a lot of excitement for being on the ground on the planet co-creating some of the transformations in these these really pivotal times and as someone who studied history and finds it interesting I think those pivotal times where how humans organize their lives move dramatically are just really interesting where you know we move from feudalism to this notion of democracies as as a radical new notion and you know all of all of these kind of big changes and goodness gracious with the rate of technology and everything that's going on with humanity it's it's a really intense sometimes take apart sometimes you know quite psychically noisy and challenging but a really dynamic time and I feel like there are a lot of souls who maybe took a hiatus after they were a sheep farmer enough times in the dark ages they were like yeah you know not not that interesting but they've come in and they're also souls that haven't really done much incarnation on the planet who are bringing particular vibrations and gifts to the world so it's a really dynamic time and it's an interesting contrast because in addition to all of these people who have frankly for different reasons a lot of psychic gifts a lot of psychic ability untrained which can be pretty miserable I talk a lot about how my energetic sensitivity as a child was so acute that I was dissociative as a result and I had no language I had no vocabulary I had no idea that you know this this press of energy that I was feeling that made me want to retreat into myself wasn't something that everybody was was reckoning with and so with all of these people with all of this psychic ability a lot of which is untrained and I would argue that psychic ability when you don't have a kind of a fundamental 101 so it doesn't have to be this like huge expert phd understanding but I feel like there's a basic layperson for the psychic and energetically sensitive competency about psychic protections and filters and shields and how energetic pathways between people work and how to protect your home and how to keep your space energetically clean and there's just kind of a basic understanding and I think it's a good analogy to compare it to the deliverables we expect of people in terms of competency as adults managing our physical bodies so as children of course you know other people help us understand the need for eat and sleep and drink some water and how injured we are when there's there's blood on the outside and you know all of these different experiences and as an adult we know how to diagnose when something is serious enough to need medical attention whether we want to keep an eye on it and see how it goes whether we need to do more research whether we just maybe got a little dehydrated and should drink some water the care and feeding of the physical body at a fundamental level not the physician level but just the kind of basic I understand what's going on with with the my body and when to get help with that is really important and similarly I think it's really important for psychic and energetically sensitive people to have that foundation so of course I made a program my energy body illumination and my academy goes through rather comprehensively all the things that I think fall under this basic kind of one-on-one aspect but there's a particular piece that I didn't put in there at the time that has recently sort of shown up in a lot of different ways and I want to share it here on the podcast so one of the categories of people that I work with a lot are people who feel like they're experiencing entity attachment and having beings that are interacting with them that they don't want to have interacting with them and it's a tricky kind of complicated thing to work with no two experiences look quite the same the root causes can be a lot of different things or just wow no idea why this really uncomfortable thing is happening to you and so I'm not going to go into that but it sort of illuminated an aspect which has to do with being psychically open and available at inappropriate times in an inappropriate ways and the entity side of it is you know a much more significant part when people you know who really want to talk to their guides can't tell the difference between a being that will take their energy in some way and a being that has unconditional compassion and generosity and very aligned in boundary support like the difference between an entity and a spirit guide is significant and if you don't know who you're talking to a whole lot of kerfuffles can can ensue from that but happily there are lots of people who aren't particularly troubled with entities the parts of them that are interfacing with the unseen world or you know doing a good job but they don't really have formal training they haven't onboarded kind of a basic like yeah it's a learnable skill to work with these gifts in a way that aligns with this weird wacky modern life now big fan of modern life love the whole indoor plumbing heating and cooling I grew up in an old farmhouse that was pretty much at an uncomfortable temperature the vast majority of the year so huge fan huge fan of how much choice we have and how much comfort and how much freedom from fleas and bedbugs those of us in developed countries enjoy so yay yay for the modern era but it's very taxing for energetically sensitive people to be in a society where people can be so messy with their energy and have no idea people throw psychic attacks as a result of emotional trigger without even realizing that's what they're they're doing back in the day you know historically with shamanism you were protecting against deliberate psychic attacks and black magic today there's a lot less of that not saying there's none but there's less of it but there's a lot more people just you know stewing over their exes bad behavior not realizing their their sending energy and just the loudness and the fact that we don't have sort of per capita enough people doing spirit release work to help those who die suddenly or get confused to go on their way we've moved away from certain kinds of death rituals that help souls to find their way so the upshot is you know there's a lot of really cool stuff about the modern era and it can also be a really hard place for someone with a lot of untrained psychic ability that's just doing its thing willy-nilly rather than kind of kind of being directed and i don't have adhd so this may be a really you know annoying false equivalency to put together but i have you know sat with a lot of people who had that experience and that all the sensory input you know working in a way where it's really hard to focus and tune things out and you're you're overstimulated and your attention is pulled in all these different directions and it's hard to hold the continuity because your brain is you know value tagging things around you is worth paying attention to and there can be a lot of really amazing cool creative things that happen but it can also be really difficult to work with some of the systems that we're expected to work with like the schools and structures of employment and things like that and similarly with psychic ability if we can have a volume switch so we're really open in an old growth forest but if we're riding the subway or at the airport we can you know pull our energy and filter a little more heavily so there's this adjustability to how open or closed our psychic ability is at any given time and we can be very boundaried of being very effective and having the self-trust of like yeah i can keep other people's energy out so that's something that is a really great thing walking around the world to to be able to be like yeah yeah i've got this i don't i don't love a psychically noisy environment but yeah i can i can take care of myself i can move through that it'll be fine so there's a lot of merit i think to just the fundamentals of managing your energetic sensitivity and your psychic ability and being able to focus it where you want and being able to tune out the white noise and and all the background and to have sovereignty over your energetic space i think these are all really really important things and certainly my own life i my quality of life was vastly improved when i got into my 20s and i started onboarding this this knowledge and these competencies and one of the things that i believe to be true in my own life and i see a lot in my clients is a lot of people who's basically developed excellent psychic ability in past lives so they come into this lifetime with a huge amount of ability to do certain things but no training and not necessarily even any vocabulary or having that validated it's a kind of a wacky thing and the sort of historic context for this if you were in a shamanic society and you had a lot of psychic ability you would have been tapped for either being trained as a shaman for the tribe or even just just a helper or an assistant you know there there would have been this specialized training and if i were in charge of the world you know in in school they scan you for for scoliosis and you know dyslexia and all of these things i would have children scanned for energetic sensitivity and just pull them into a you know a little bit of extra training it would save so much grief if we got the basics just as part of the like oh you you have this extra sense you're you're going to want to have some volitional control over it things things will go better for you and another interesting thing that factors into this whole you know soup of interesting experiences we have the high you know levels of old souls incarnating and we have this really wild take apart and new opportunity times and another thing that i find really interesting is the vibration has really come up you know i i have been at this a long time this is my 25th year in practice and i remember you know going through the lead up to 2012 and all the discussions of the vibration is coming up in the world and that sounds really cool it's actually kind of uncomfortable because it can create a lot of detox and dismantling of old systems that are you know trying to sustain their stability and you know just just lots of things i remember back pre pre-2012 people genuinely thinking like we would just not be dealing with money post-2012 you know it's like oh that's so outdated and and i just remember laughing because i'm like wow humans are co-creating money so vigorously i really i really trust the continuity of of you know this this sort of fundamental organizing principle in in a format that you know we'll adjust we'll shift and grow but it looks pretty appreciably similar to to what we're doing now but i digress so the the point of this vibration rising is it makes it a lot easier to connect to spirit so what i've been shown by my guides is like back in the day you really had to do a lot of practices to get that connection to spirit there was there was a really significant vibrational contrast between some of the more ascended master teachers and and beings that that work with us that help us so there was more ritual needed there was more meditation needed there was more purification needed and you know from from my experience like the notion of needing to go you know fast for for three days in order to get to connected to spirit sounds you know really absurd because it's something i can connect to you know in a in a breath i can just shift my attention over to talking to my spirit guides and incidentally i would argue for most people who are in a female body and a lot of people who are in a male body that whole suffering to get closer to spirit is is a bit counter indicated and particularly for women because a lot of times we don't bring our energy fully into our body we're we're much more active often in the upper chakras than the lower chakras and i would argue that we have the most success if all the chakras are working together as a team they're all vibrant and dynamic and doing their thing and a lot of those practices are for men you know and and mileage mileage varies a lot especially these days people are switching it up for gender incarnations in interesting ways but for a lot of men their their energy was was more anchored in the lower chakras and they needed to move move the energy up to connect to spirit so a lot of what's been handed down are traditions that are about helping men raise their energy to get connected to spirit and fasting extreme physical efforts you know a lot of uncomfortable things can be helpful for that but the the cool thing is you know and and i think what a lot of us experience is we can be checking in with spirit kind of kind of real time and as with so many things in the modern era it has some really cool aspects that we can just you know shift our awareness from ordinary reality into non-ordinary reality and connect on the fly kind of kind of so it has some really amazing gifts but it also creates some problems and challenges and things that can diminish your quality of life if they don't you know get get handled properly and so one of the things i think that's useful to just sort of look at is when we start to look at traditional practices so i of course you know dabbled in many things had lots of different experiences took lots of different classes but when when you start to look at traditional shamanism which is not what i practice i practice a very modern version that i've worked out with my guides i am not a ritualist there are people who love ritual i think ritual is beautiful i've done ritual there's richness that comes from ritual but i'm also very much a pragmatist and a former engineer and so i have found that the return on investment for what i'm wanting to connect with for an elaborate ritual versus something that that has more efficiency doesn't quite add up for me so nothing against ritual yay ritual wonderful place great thing for people to experience however it it just may not be your jam and it's totally okay if it's not your jam however it's worth noting that all of the kind of teachings that come from days of yore as best we can understand them as they've been handed down really have to do with opening sacred space having an experience with spirit and closing sacred space so they're again overcoming this higher vibration being really intentional about what we were doing with our magic these kind of things have have this process where we you know we move through the the steps of i've created a container i've stopped multitasking and you know i'm not doing the dishes i've stepped into this protection and now i'm going to open up the psychic ability and have this experience and then i'm going to close down the places and i still you know get way more detailed and clear information when i don't just kind of tune into my guides which i do there's that's the nature of how i move through the world but when i you know i still listen to the drum for that altered state and it does things for me which is putting me into that state but also drums and rattles and calling of the quarters if you're wicked all of these things are a way of telling spirit hey i'm ready to listen i'm here i'm getting present so there's this really potent coming together and this isn't to say you know only only talk to your spirit guides when you're in sacred space now if having entity problems it may be necessary not to talk to spirit and i have some different wisdom on on how to still access that wisdom but by going to your inner wise one rather than out to your spirit guides if you don't know who you're talking to if you aren't able to command your space and be boundaried and know that you're talking to legitimate spirit guides and and not entities that have a different agenda it's it's really not a good idea to do things like shamanic journey especially not that just flipping your awareness into non-ordinary reality and if you're in a place where you know you've had some issues it's it's kind of you know medium research and development you know try things see how they work but i would recommend anyone who's has fear or has had difficulties going back to those foundational practices of calling in sacred space many many different ways to do it but but setting a protected container before you open those pathways so i think that that's a really important thing and i think that our ancestors really needed to do that and wacky modern people with all of our like soul history and ability and the higher vibration and such just have this capacity to just flip our awareness into non-ordinary reality as we're you know going about life and this can actually be really problematic because there are a lot of people who can't close the doors and again that's a demographic of my clients but for people who aren't having that problem it can really interfere with being grounded with being in the body with having the situational awareness to be attentive to the physical world to even just having discernment about other people to noticing when something in your life is starting to go down a pathway you know it's it's really hard when you know you see someone going down a pathway and you're like oh wow you know that that you're you're you're on a track that if you don't pivot you don't have major health problems now but like like you know that that's taking you in a direction where you know future you is going to have potentially a lot harder time and i'm deeply invested in future me having a really delightful wonderful joyful time and so i want to i want to pivot any participation in the world that isn't a balance between having good quality of life now and setting future me up for really good experiences and so there's a whole lot of downsides to not being in your body you're vulnerable to accidents you just really can't get your magic to act on the world and for a lot of people it kind of becomes a catch-22 where their circumstances are difficult in some way there can be money struggles health struggles relationship struggles they can feel really trapped and stuck they're in a job that pays the bills they don't have another you know option lined up for that's easy or straightforward and and yet it makes them not want to be here so the more that they sort of leave their body and and disconnect and dissociate and zone out and tune out and numb themselves and all those kind of things the less their magic and self-efficacy and resourcefulness and ability to curate a life that you know would would really work for them would really have more of a what's in it for you kind of kind of factor to life and so it's a it's a tricksy kind of kind of problem where we really need to be in our bodies to give ourselves the the best incarnation experience and honestly we went through a lot of trouble to get here and it doesn't mean that you are necessarily enjoying it we could spend a ton of money on a trip plan it be so excited and get there and be like wow it's just it's not like what it looked like on instagram you know there's i i enjoy the the content creators on youtube who are who are like here's the beautiful thing and then here's the huge crowd that is all together filming the beautiful thing which is you know edited out of pictures shots are taken strategically to to erase the you know the the the giant crowd of people who are all you know jostling and and you know it's just not as serene as it could be so all of that just is to say you may have you know gone through a lot of trouble to get here on the planet and not be you know really savoring it and enjoying it however it is really worthwhile to be in the body for a whole bunch of reasons you know health and well-being and and also you know where this blend of human animal and human spirit and when human spirit leaves the conversation and disengages human animal starts running the show and human animal is very frightened of the world very anxious has a lot of really outdated strategies that were good for hunter-gatherer people and are really dysfunctional for modern humans the ability to you know really really work with a life that you enjoy isn't on the radar of human animal human animal is just really about survive survive survive and so when you you know it's kind of like a dog that's left in the yard that's just barking and barking and barking and barking you know that that that's a a hard experience and there's so much that's neat and rich and amazing about dogs but when they're you know just left in solitary confinement out in a yard with with no human engagement or attunement or presence or thoughtfulness it just it goes a different direction it's not super great so we really want to you know get in the game of being human as as long as we're here so that we can have the best possible experience and one of the things i find about a lot of these psychically gifted people is we're a lot easier have a lot easier time sending our awareness out into the cosmos or talking to our spirit guides than we do bringing it back we go better than we come back and i imagine that has to do with again the the higher vibrational gaps so there was a lot more work in past lives you know teaching ourselves to go and you know not living these you know lives where we can do a lot of things on autopilot and not die you know when we're back to you know being being in the world and you know kind of the situational awareness it's been speculated that our ancestors ruminated a lot less because they were out and about in the outdoors and needed to pay attention to bugs and snakes and you know gathering water and you know all all of these different like real-time experiences there was more need to be situationally aware which doesn't particularly yield itself to to rumination but whatever the root cause it's really useful i believe to be really clean about where you're choosing to have your awareness so for me i i mentioned i do i can put my awareness into shamanic reality very quickly i mean you know it's the result of of how much i've done this and i love that i i can get information but then i'm very aware of when i bring it back to the 3d world so a lot of times people are just having this sort of amorphous things are open they're not in protected sacred space and that can be physically dangerous you know it's not a great thing to do while you're say driving a car and we can lose or just never develop the muscle that allows us to choose whether we're in ordinary or non-ordinary reality and having you know the the choice not be volitional causes a lot of problems you know a lot of you know i'm not saying it's the whole of schizophrenia i'm there are lots of aspects but that's part of it is is you just don't have volitional control over where your awareness is and it can be really really scary and really upsetting and that can really impair your life so my invitation and my recommendation is to by all means connect to spirit and talk to spirit and if you're having really good results then you know you don't necessarily have to have the formality of calling in sacred space if you feel like sometimes you get bad information or you don't know where you go or you your energy feels worse afterwards there there can be all these subtle signs that maybe that's not working so well you can move to a more formal discipline for a while of setting up sacred space and then communing with spirit i think it's really worthwhile to really like settle in and have the conversation instead of just kind of tuning in to alleviate boredom while you're while you're washing the dishes so that can be a really useful thing but even if you're even if you're doing this you know tuning in you know i i i don't think it's unreasonable to be doing muscle testing in the health food store to decide if your body is interested in a particular supplement or a particular food but that sort of beginning middle end when i was getting ready to do this podcast the guys were popping into my head that child song of open shut them open shut them and you're practicing like in playing with the fact that you know it's a different experience when you open your eyes or close your eyes and there's a hand gesture that goes with it and i think that that's really good wisdom for our psychic ability open shut open shut where we close that because the the trouble is that those pathways when they're they're just sort of open it's a little bit like you you dial somebody on the phone and then you've had the conversation you just shut down the phone and walk away and the phone line's still open that's not so ideal at the very minimum it's going to pull your battery down it ties up the phone and you can't use it for other things that are darn useful with with modern phones and and that's the best case scenario the worst case scenario is that there can be all of these other effects so it's an it's an opening in your energy field that you probably don't want to have when you're wandering around the grocery store and i know i mentioned entities and you know people who have entities and don't realize they have entities fare a lot better than people who realize they have entities and are really triggered by the fact that they have entities and that's not volitional it's just it's an experience so i'm not saying like oh don't be triggered i have hours and hours and hours of talking about how to deal with entities so not not giving that advice it's just that a lot of people i think have this this energetic mess that creates white noise around their head that they don't they don't even realize they're not even aware of and you know just like our skin is really important it's really important to have unbroken skin because when the skin is broken we suddenly have vulnerability to infection and you know more damage happening to that compromised area and all of all of these kind of things um when our skin is is healthy it works really well it allows oxygen we can feel heat and light and have all these experiences where we interact with the world with this like miraculous kind of amazing remarkable barrier all through all through our body that that does all of these really attuned things and i'm a fan of also having an energy body that's very attuned and aligned with supporting you and the the integrity of that not having it be permeable to inappropriate energy is is a vital importance so remember i talked about the people throwing psychic attacks if you're a boundary person or even if you're not perhaps more so if you're not but regardless at some point somebody's going to be really unreasonably triggered with you and the more mentally ill they are and the more outrageous the trigger the more energy potentially could be generated and if you have this like random i just have spirit dialed all the time and i have those psychic pathways open but i'm not really doing anything with them and and they're just default in one position that's a pathway where things can come into your energy body it's a level of openness that isn't particularly supporting you so sure it's tedious you know it's kind of like you know making your bed i don't always make my bed but there's a there's a little bit of a tedious aspect my my grandmother's best efforts aside you know did not did not get committed to making my bed in the beautiful way that she taught me but for this it is really useful and maybe a better analogy is you know we go through a process when we leave our home especially if we have pets inside of closing the doors you know we're aware of whether the door is open or closed especially if we have indoor cats you know that that's a particular you know kind of thing but also if we live in a place that has a lot of mosquitoes at a certain time of day or all of these we tend to whether our doors are open our windows are open there's this extra process that we go through that's just thoughtful like oh you know my car window is down and it looks like you know water is going to fall vigorously from the sky it would be good to put up the window and similarly i think it's really useful to tend our energy body to the same degree of yeah you know i i can open it up and have these experiences and then when i'm complete i close the pathways and i really come home solidly and it's a learnable skill and honestly it's it's not very fun or comfortable to to just keep using your intention and focus to pull yourself into your body and be able to have volitional control over it it's i don't love strength training but i'm 50 years old and it's really wise for me to do this thing that's going to build muscle and again investment in future katie having having a good experience aging well really really helpful so i set up lots of systems to be as efficient and make it as attainable as possible but you know i i lean into making that happen even though i don't like the process of my heart rate shooting up and those last couple of reps that build so much muscle where you're like this is so freaking hard you know you're really you're really struggling for you know 13 14 and 15 of the overhead press that you're doing and so i recognize it's a different kind of muscle and tiredness to use your awareness to track whether or not you're in your body and then use your intention and focus to start to figure out where that muscle is that draws you back in and i taught in-person shamanic journeying classes i've i had you can get my my classes as as you know recordings in my academy if that's something that speaks to you but in all the years of teaching i found that a lot of my students went to shamanic reality a lot better than they came back from shamanic reality and i've spent a lot of time kind of half in half out and it's just not as fun you know you you you have a lot of brain fog and a lot of disorientation and you can't think straight and it really takes the aliveness of joy and connection and these really vital things away so you know it's a it's a little bit like you know traveling to some amazing destination and then spending the whole time in the hotel and there could be reasons for that if you know you caught a cold on the way or whatever but there's kind of a missed experience if you if you don't you know at some point venture out like if you if you go to hawaii and you stay in the hotel room there's a missed experience and so in terms of getting the full value out of this crazy incarnation journey that we all decided to do i think this is really important and frankly this will increase and hone your psychic ability so being being intentional about this will give you way way way better access to your guides so it's even if you if you're like but i totally love that world you'll get so much more out of that world by training your your psychic ability and having more volitional control over it so i just want to mention this because again you know we don't we don't have the kind of training that we all go through you know we we learned about bacteria and wounds and you know how to keep our drinking water safe and you know there are all these things that are sort of this this common collective knowledge that most people really know and understand and managing psychic ability is absolutely not on that list and honestly there's unless someone is in a lot of pain and suffering about it there's a lot more money in teaching people to go than teaching people to come be in their bodies people you know are plunking down their money for training in you know reading tarot cards or you know things that connect with spirit which is great i really get the longing and the desire it's a huge part of the joy in my life absolutely massive so i'm it's not making anyone bad or wrong it's just noticing that this knowledge even when people have it isn't what people are paying for unless they're in a lot of suffering over the experience and so as a result you know again it's it's you know not not necessarily the most fun to to get competent at this but i can really make a strong argument for the improved quality of life so if this is something that that kind of applies and fits and you don't have a a really clear sense of you know where your awareness is at any given moment in time i'd really invite you to think about at least running the experiment of working with this and seeing how it might change things for you thank you so much for joining me to learn more about me and my work please visit my website at handsoverheart.com there you can join my mailing list for access to free bonus content in the members only area if you've enjoyed this please consider subscribing and leaving a review it would help me out a lot also a special thank you to my patrons for 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