【始祖鳥、巴塔哥尼亞、北臉選購指南】戶外外套選購 Arc'teryx, Patagonia, North Face

安静徒步
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大家好,我是斯坦利安斯,歡迎來到課堂
今天我們要討論的五件外套
來自Philson, North Face, Patagonia, Arc'teryx, 以及最出名的外套製作人
名字將會在之後的視頻中被編輯
我是說視頻
一路走來,我會告訴你
我花了多久時間在每件外套都開始閃閃發光
當外面溫度是5度的時候
我計時了
為什麼Philson的外套是我的最佳兩件
為什麼我對Patagonia的外套感到失望
為什麼Arc'teryx的技術讓他們的外套變得出色
但同時也有一個巨大的限制
讓你不想要外套
最後,為什麼這一點都不重要
好了,課堂,給我一顆蘋果,我們開始吧
大家好,我是Michael
我在上一集的視頻中說過
我會在一個星期內製作視頻
然後我錯過了那個時間
所以這很棒
我還在地上找到這個冰淇淋杯
以為它可以幫助我
說明一些事情
另外,如果你們有疑問
我穿的是Huckberry All Weather Duck Boots
它們非常好
它們有點像L.L.Bean Boots的升級版
它們其實是水性的
它們比較像鞋子
而且它們非常時尚
這些Bad Larrys是Giver的襯衫
它們非常棒
它們是塑膠的
它們非常棒
我把這些送給Taylor
因為她經常在丹麥騎摩托車
我今天穿的所有東西
都會在我的網址裡
我的網址,Carrot的網址
你只要點擊它們
它們全部都是夥伴的網址
所以這是一個很好的方式
如果你想支持我的頻道
就要點擊它們
好的,所以這個第一件外套
是Philson的Down Cruiser
它是Wool Cruiser的遊戲
它們最有名的產品
它們為了什麼而成名
基本上,它是Philson的所有東西
比如說,這個很酷
這個很棒
把它們組合起來,再加上Down
所以我們有一個防水布
它們的11盎司塑膠布
上面有一個遮蓋布
它是8盎司
所以它比較有彈性
但實際上,它有更重的,更低的
更輕的,更高的
所以這樣
如果你穿過
這是一個不好的示範
我想我應該進去那裡
如果你穿過遮蓋布
就沒那麼多問題了
我需要幫忙
防水布的領帶
在這裡
還有防水布
在遮蓋布上
還有很多空間
在遮蓋布上
即使有很多東西塞進去
所以無論如何
所有東西都組合起來
然後成為這個外套
為什麼我們要用塑膠布
你可能會問
如果Down變濕了
尤其是這個Down
它沒有任何處理
非常沒有效果
你可能會死在那裡
現在
一個快速的調整
到Down
我們要把一些東西
拿走
這樣
就不會有混淆了
Down不是一隻翅膀
人們熟悉翅膀
人們經常用它來寫歌
Alexander Hamilton
用它來寫他著名的音樂劇
翅膀在一隻鳥的外面
當你談到Down的外套
它是一隻狗或是一隻狗
Down在裡面
它可以保持狗或是一隻狗的溫暖
我在Google上
一隻狗穿著外套
然後
我用AI的能力
把它做出來
一個非常高質量的Down外套
比翅膀還要Down
大部分的Down外套
都有一個混合的Down和翅膀
80%-20%
通常是你最想要的最低
80%Down
20%翅膀
再加上
還有Down Fill
和Down Weight
Down Fill
是Down to Weight Ratio的效率
混合起來
你會看到600Fill Down
你會看到900Fill Down
The higher fill
the more efficient it is
so you need less of it
Down Weight
Obviously it's just the weight of the Down
in the jacket
usually measured in ounces
A lower fill Down
dries faster than a higher fill Down
That ties in very heavily to Arcteryx
which we'll talk about very shortly
but we have to finish up the Filson section
So this Filson Down Cruiser is
650 Fill
80%-20%
They also have another Down jacket
which I tried to get from Filson
Maybe I will
if you're interested
The Chill Coot
I have the time tables
of how long I wore each jacket outside
before I started shivering
It was probably 5 degrees
This is the worst test in the world
I hope you're aware of that
It's just me
I have bias
Really we're talking about
how comfortable I was in these jackets
because you can't really be like
well it's this percentage warmer
or anything like that
Number 1
Filson
1 minute and 52 seconds
OK next up we'll do
the Patagonia Trace Parka
Actually I'll do that one later
I was really disappointed by that parka
so we'll talk about that one later
but we'll do the North Face
McMurdo Parka
which I was not disappointed by
I used to watch reviews of this jacket
like freshman year in college
and I wanted one so bad
but at the time I couldn't afford one
and I would just watch reviews
and be like that jacket's amazing
that jacket's awesome
and then I could have bought one
I never did
I got all those other cool stuff
We're now leaning away from Waxcon
obviously
and we're going to North Face's version
of Gore-Tex essentially
Now on this list
the only company that uses Gore-Tex
is Arcteryx
and that is very, very important
North Face uses their own
proprietary version of this
It's a very similar thing
so it's waterproof, windproof
This is actually
one of the warmest jackets on the list
When we get to the timing scores
it's very, very high up there
and what's interesting about that is
we just learned all this stuff
about fill power and fill weight
and this is the lowest fill power
down jacket that is on this list
600 fill down
but this jacket has
the most amazing hand warmer pockets
in the bunch
It has them at the
second most amazing
hand warmer pockets in the bunch
The wind flap over the zipper is the best
because it's Velcro
so if you have mittens or gloves on
you can just spank it on
you don't have to worry about
snapping all these different things
and it has a hood
which is a huge game changer
for warmth
until we get to Patagonia
and on top of that
on the hood
there is a removable fur lining
fake fur
Something really cool
about fur trim linings
is it actually changes
the way wind interacts with your face
so if the fur is out or forward
wind can't really like
spank you in the face
It kind of creates
like this little vortex
that keeps you warmer
and keeps the wind
a little away from you
North Face happened to do
snaps around the outer of the hood
and that's great
but what I did notice
what happened was
when I was testing this jacket
some cold air would come in
through the gaps
where those snaps were
and then get
and hit you in the face
It's obviously reduced by a lot
but that stunk
6 minutes and 12 seconds
Look honey
The American flag
It's just like the moon
We're at the top
It wasn't actually as high as I thought
It's really not Patagonia's fault
I kind of sort of
bought the wrong jacket
It's one of those jackets
that's really okay
at a lot of things
but not really
It's probably a great rain jacket
but it's not really
that great at everything
because you're making compromises
It's like the North Face hood
essentially
This is the Patagonia Trace
3-in-1 Parco
It's my favorite fit
I think it looks cool
I would pick this over
the Arc'teryx any day
If Patagonia made a version of it
that was an actual winter jacket
and not like a mix of everything
The way this jacket works
is the outside shell
is a waterproof raincoat
which is fantastic
It fits great
It looks awesome
It's a great jacket
All the separate components are great
But when you combine them
There's a lot of things
that beat them
at a similar price point
700 down fill jacket
Not Parco
The Parco is not lined
So it ends at about your belt line
It's pretty warm
It's nothing too crazy
You'll see the information
when we get to the time
of how long I was outside
with each one
But it's fine
It's great
The hand warmer pockets
are not that good
because it's a rain jacket
And that's pretty much it
I had to change my angle
because that person
snuck up on my 6
I had no idea
I guess the problem
is not solved yet
Anyways
Now I'm next to the bathroom
So if anyone has to use it
It'll be incredibly weird
And I'll say
What's the password
And then obviously
I'll let them in
2 minutes and 2 seconds
OK
Arcteryx
What is so special
about Arcteryx
That was my Google search history
What makes Arcteryx so special
Is that they just do
everything
to the absolute
maximum
cutting edge
of technology
And they use
the best of the best
And I said Gore-Tex
was really important
Gore-Tex
is basically
the same mindset
as Arcteryx
No no
You can interrupt
It's fine
Have a good day
But that is where
Arcteryx shines
Because they use Gore-Tex
Because it's the best
What they don't use
from Gore-Tex
Or other brands
They make themselves
And they innovate
Like micro-seaming
For example
Where you have these
like no visible seams
On Arcteryx jackets
Which is really cool
It gives them that
really sleek
Futuristic look
There's no
Lower level Arcteryx
They start high end
And don't go down
So that's why Arcteryx
Is so expensive off the bat
You can get an expensive
Version of Patagonia
Or other down jackets
That are like that too
But there is no
Cheap version of Arcteryx
That's the Arcteryx philosophy
And that
Is where we get into
The hot topic of this video
Down composite mapping
And contour construction
The coolest thing ever
When you're talking about
Down jackets
Those two things
Are insane
And they're genius
And they're brilliant
And I can't get enough of them
But they also have
A really big flaw
That we'll talk about at the end
The Arcteryx boys
Are gonna go nuts
750 fill down
The second highest fill of down
We haven't gotten to
The Italian stallion yet
Don't forget
In third place
Arcteryx
With 4 minutes and 45 seconds
The sun is setting
So I have to go down
The Italian stallion
Is waiting in the stable
AKA my car
Babe, babe
Look, babe
It's the American flag
Just like on the moon
I made a video about this jacket
About a year ago
And said it was the jacket
Of my dreams
Since then
I've acquired it
This is the
Manufactura Ciccarelli
Fisherman down jacket
I forget exactly what it's called
I just wanna say
Everybody that I've asked
When they think about this jacket
Doesn't like it
So there are
More normal looking jackets here
OK, that'll
That's what we needed to do
800 fill down
The weight is super heavy
It's packed to the gills with down
Vegetable tanned accents
That you can tighten with the hood
Or tighten on the body
So cold air doesn't come up
Into the body
20-ish ounce wool outer
You could also do this
In total waxed cotton
Waxed cotton arms
Waxed cotton hood
An insane jacket
The best of the best
That you could possibly get
When you're looking for down jackets
And it has waxed cotton
So it will age and patina
Beautifully over time
I've talked to Mr. Ciccarelli before
Many a times
He's a super cool dude
He made a line of things
For Filson before
The Filson Italian line
That's Manufactura Ciccarelli
Best of the best
I did not shiver
With Manufactura Ciccarelli
Out of these five jackets
There's two jackets
That do something very different
You have North Face Patagonia Arcteryx
And then you have Filson
And Manufactura Cic
When you deal with
North Face Patagonia and Arcteryx
They all have the amazing benefits
Of technology
They're super waterproof
Super lightweight
They're tough, they're cool
But the flaws that you run into
With those
All kind of center around
Delamination in some way
Gore-Tex and then
North Face's and Patagonia's version
All delaminate over time
Which means they separate
And bubble
And become less effective
And maybe it's ten years
Maybe it's two years
Depends on how you wear your jacket
But they become less effective
What's interesting is
When you look at like
Old North Face jackets
From the 70's and stuff
Those
The really only difference
Between those and like
This Filson for example
Is they use nylon
And not wax cotton
And nylon is fine
Nylon is very simple
It just holds the down in
But when you start to incorporate
All these different
Waterproof technologies
And glues and stuff like that
Then you have more room for failure
The biggest thing
That I forgot to talk about
Down composite mapping
And contour construction
With Arcteryx
Lower fill power dries faster
Higher fill power
More efficiently warm
But doesn't dry as fast
There is also
Synthetic insulation
Which dries dramatically
Faster than down in general
So if you combine
Those two things
And Arcteryx does this
For a very specific reason
We'll talk about
Then your garment
Is better equipped
For a variety of circumstances
So Arcteryx does this
In two different ways
Number one
Like I said
Down composite mapping
And we'll go over
The pros first
Arcteryx puts
Synthetic insulation
In key areas on your garment
That are most likely to get wet
Like your hood
Your shoulders
Your cuff
Your underarms
Because you'd be sweating
Since those areas
Get wet more than all the others
They dry faster
With synthetic insulation
People that have
Down composite mapping
Say it's actually
Super convenient
When they do get wet
That those areas
Dry really fast
There is a big problem
But before we get into that
The other thing is
Contour construction
Which is very cool
So you have your baffle
That holds the down
They put a layer
Of synthetic insulation
Around the down insulation
To act as like
Another shield
To make sure that down
Doesn't get wet
And you get that layer
Of synthetic insulation there too
The downside to both of these
Down is very very lofty
For a very long time
Synthetic insulation
Is not very lofty
For a long time
It is very lofty
But it will compress
And be less insulatory
After a while
That synthetic insulation
Loses some of its warmth
Capabilities
And the down insulation
Does not
So you have cold areas
On your shoulders
On your armpits
On your hood
Another point
In Filson's favor
For me specifically
Is that over time
This jacket will patina
And get darker
Especially if you re-wax it
And it will start to look gorgeous
There's a lot of different types
Of down jackets obviously
But if we boil it down
There are heritage cloth ones
Like this is waxed cotton
Then there are the ones
With the waterproof outer
And no baffles on the outside
That's on the inside
Like the three we looked at today
And then
There's the alpine down jacket
That's not usually called
Alpine down jacket
But the ones where you can see
The baffles
People are like covered
In like goose feathers
And stuff like that
There's different types of jackets
For different types of purposes
So the big point is really
You need to figure out
Exactly what you're going to be using
This jacket for
But when we compare
All of these down jackets
There really is no clear winner
Because you do a lot of
Different things
The other super important thing
To consider is that
All of this varies on
How active you're going to be
If you're just sitting at a game
Or doing not much outside
You want a really warm outer layer
Probably
But the second you start doing
Physical labor
You realize that
Maybe the down jacket is important
But not that important
Because you get warm very quickly
So that's when you realize
The most important thing
That you can possibly do
Is layer correctly
This is not a video on layering
But you should look into
Base layer, mid layer, outer layer, shell
Whatever it may be
For what you're doing
Because that's the key to being warm
My little blueberry muffin, Taylor
Was always cold all the time
No matter how big of a down jacket
She put on
Then the only thing we changed
Was I had an old thick
Under armor base layer in my drawer
Put that on
We went outside with a jacket
And she was immediately too warm
And we figured it out
You know how I said
I was going to do a video
In seven days
And then I didn't
I'm going to try again
But I'm going to Copenhagen very soon
To see my sweet, sweet Taylor
So maybe I'll make a video
With her in Copenhagen
But I'll see you very soon
I'll see you next week
