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he is Casey Stern the man was most was once a host for Inside the NBA one of my favorite programs in the history of Television I'm Cyrus saes let's talk NBA not just Warriors not just Knicks Coast to Coast he's in Georgia I'm in californiaa this is NBA Coast to Coast [Music] yeah welcome to the program I am Cyra saas you can follow me on threads at dog wild Casey Stern is over on Twitter you can follow him there at his name it's super easy Casey Stern it's amazing I'm so creative no no no no no when it comes to Twitter handles or social media handles creativity is not the winning formula you want it to be simple you want it to be your name unless you have my name and I'm glad you call it Twitter because as I tell people if you call it X immediately you just think about therapy alcohol and depression because that's where exes drive you so let's just stay with Twitter I think well I guess my mind is in the gutter but it's a family show kids are watching somewhere yeah so add two more x's 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don't know if we can air dirty laundry at some point I'll leave that up to you if you want to do that but they treated you like total and regardless you and you were coming on my show and and the way that the Genesis of that the way that even originated is I remember just randomly thinking one day what the hell happened to you like like for people unfamiliar you were the number two guy for Inside the NBA like you were filling in anytime Ernie Johnson would have to step aside for whatever reason and he's had some tragedies he's obviously has personal that we all have to deal with some sometimes to step away from work and you would jump in and you're the guy and I remember thinking every time I'd watch you on that show I think what this guy's hilarious man like you're quick witted you know what you're talking about and then one day it was just poof like you were gone and I'm like where the hell did this guy go and then I look you up I find you you come on the show and then immediately I felt like we hadit we had instant chemistry so that is your background anything you want to add for the Golden Days audience that uh I mean I don't want to sit out and give the resume but I worked at mlb.com for five years I worked aty did pre and postgame for the Knicks and Rangers at MSG on television in New York uh I did 12 Years of radio was the afternoon Drive host for MLB for SiriusXM MLB Network radio and then I joined Turner in 2014 I hosted the postseason all baseball coverage with Pedro Martinez and Gary Sheffield in that group for seven years I hosted three NBA finals for NBA TV I hosted the NCA tournament in studio for three seasons there and did all the coverage and did all the host hosting for the NCA tournament and I also filled in for Inside the NBA I was hosting the day after the day that Craig Sager died among others as you brought up when EJ wasn't there um but yeah and and then in 2022 I left a family life gets in the way lots of things happen yada yada go ahead and get a Hallmark Channel and you know I've got now I'm doing podcasts and I'm kind of figuring out where my next move will be in far as far as TV and radio is concerned but I've been doing this over 20 plus years and all of my experience for the most part is in baseball and basketball and I've got plenty of it in both and here we are yeah here we are man we're talk story and we're talking Hoops we're going to cover the entire NBA like the golden days is a Warriors program but NBA Coast to Coast we're covering the whole gamut man we're we're we're we're whatever is hot whatever is is trending whatever the topic is we're going to cover it uh but if you don't mind Casey I do want to start real fast with the Warriors topic and this is generally in the news for the entire NBA uh because the Sacramento Kings were trying to get this guy uh they they gave up and they went with Demar de rozan we got to touch on that for a minute because I think that's a huge pickup um but I'm talking about Lori marinan and Danny a as we all know uh is is he's a savy GM he loves his draft picks he loves making big deals to plan ahead for the future when you look at the Boston Celtics and you and I are going to talk about dynasties because Stephen Curry said something interesting which is that he thinks the Warriors are going to be the last Dynasty in the ever in the NBA and we're going to play that sound bite in just a minute but when you when you talk about dynasties this Celtics team which could be a dynasty um largely was formed courtesy of Danny age and he he traded away the last great Celtics team I'm talking about Kevin Garnett I'm talking about Ray Allen he hoarded you know a stockpile of draft picks resulted in Jason Tatum resulted in Jaylen Brown he wants to do the same thing with the Utah Jazz and if that's his plan Lori marinan probably doesn't fit he he's 27 turning 28 good player but not someone who single-handedly can turn a team into a playoff team I think for the Warriors if he's the number two guy that is an unbelievable pickup if the Warriors can get him without trading Jonathan kaminga all the better and right now it's a holding pattern I feel like it's a Danny a Mike Dy Jr staring contest my guess is Danny a is looking at at Mike duny Jr going throwing kaminga we got a deal and Mike Dy Jr is looking at Danny AES going I could sit here and wait all day man if if you're GNA trade Lori I'll wait for you to to to Green Light the deal that we talked about that's the impression I'm getting here man and I think Lori would be huge for the Warriors if it doesn't happen tomorrow with Larry Krueger I'm gonna break down all 29 other NBA teams and who else the Warriors can make a deal for but right now Casey from your outside perspective when it comes to the Golden State Warriors which I love what are your thoughts man what you what what are your thoughts on this whole Lori marke and deal like do you think it's even worth it to go all out for him take it away man well let me say this first of all because we we uh you got to be fair we presented on the UN filtered Side by our good friends at bet online it's all right we get we get there they like they like me it's fine it's five minutes into the show somewhere uh there are your number one source for your sports betting needs a season baseball golf soccer all the top fights UFC MMA and boxing every stat every matchup live odds and spreads when it's over you got 150 slot games you got blackjack poker and more get over the website today get in on the action promo codes believe that's bav 50% Free Bet credit and your first deposit up to $250 bet online where the game starts here I felt like crazy edti with the commercials little bit up on the speed but it's fine uh look truth is BET online is a proud sponsor of the believe Network and uh and and they're gonna be you're gonna be hearing me give those reads soon um they so no big deal I've done I can do I can do reads in my sleep I can't braid my daughter's hair but I can do reads um here's here's here's where of all the million things I can't do I could have gone with dun of basketball in this show but I just with braiding um look I think the the Warriors clearly need help and he's a guy who would be a massive influence especially with what he can do to add to them offensively and take pressure off the STA so I think it's important when you talk about being held everything's about hand you go back to hand in a relationship it's in the relationship of Trades it's always about leverage and right now the Leverage is on the side of Utah when you sit there and say okay he's my player I don't have to give him to you there are other teams that could be involved he's wanted and we're going to go ahead we're going to get set up the bidding for as much as we can get from you how long that lasts who knows but I think this standstill is something that really both sides are in a pretty comfortable position because it makes sense it's a fit for both it would help the Warriors that the tough part for dubs fans is that what does it help them to do where where you going what are you gonna be next year are you gonna win the championship next year no are you gonna be a factor and a contender next year probably not even with marinin that's the issue I want to know if they get him what can you do yeah I don't look I look at the upper echelon of the western conference right now and all these teams are getting better Minnesota getting better Dallas getting better all of the teams that scare you are getting better the Warriors already have to cut a gap that there was there now how much better can they get so I want to know and what is the plan it's got to be more steps than just Lowry Markin in but certainly obviously both in size and what he can do for the team it would be a big help well well Casey the starting lineup for the Warriors if they make if they make this trade and don't give up kaminga right which is a huge caveat because what from what I've heard that's what Danny a wants is kaminga and the Warriors depending on who you ask either absolutely love kaminga or maybe they want to give him up uh for the right price the starting five for the Warriors right now if they get Lori and don't trade kaminga would be Steph buddy hee kaminga Draymond Lori marinin and the Buddy heeld part of it could be swapped out if psky is still on the team maybe him I I if Andrew Wiggins is still on the team I don't mind him as a shooting guard you're telling me that that lineup just would not team no I think it's a it's competitive but when you're talking about a team when you talking about dynasties this is like you know the goal for a normal basketball fan is to make the playoffs the goal for a Warriors fan is to win the whole freaking thing and that's that's end game that's the game that is all the the F that matters that's it right so if that's the goal is that team as constituted like you just described good enough to contend with the top in the west be competitive sure make a run maybe win a championship probably not so I think there's work to do but marketing would be a huge help you do not want to deplete yourself trading kaminga though because then you gotta rob Peter to pay Paul and then all of a sudden you gota now fill other issues that have been created by the trade which is problem absolutely man I think I think the fact that you just said probably not that mean that's that elicits the old Dumb and Dumber line right so you're telling me there's a chance a chance I think that's if if you're telling dub Nation that a move will result in a chance and you got Steph and Curry on your roster they'll take I mean look I love Steph and but you know when you talk about the difficulty of of getting a dynasty it's more difficult to keep a dynasty and to extend a dynasty and to now get a second run out of guys who were the same part of that core at a much higher age and a much more depleted level even though you're talking about Hall of Fame talents right that's hard to do that is nearly impossible you rarely see it you may see a quarterback like a Tom Brady go to another team or a quarterback like a Tom Brady see running backs and wide receivers change over his time with the Patriots right during all those Super Bowl runs but you don't see the core of a basketball team get way older then spend years in that mid drift and the muffin tops of the standings and then all of a sudden get back to the top it's difficult to do they've got a they've got a ways to go they got a ways to go uh let's hear from speaking of dynasties and and you and I before we started recording what were you doing by the way for the last was there a birthday party at your house just totally inside here but I I was hearing like a party of kids what was going on in your house no I leave the TV on for the dog it was the TV okay so yeah yeah no I was I I I leave the TV on for the dog so I had the TV on for the dog and I was in and out I was actually playing some hoops outside your dog W what is your dog watches TV like well my dog's like 15 years old he's a golden retriever which is like 107 in human years and he doesn't like silence there's too much noises going on outside and I don't I don't need him you know his pants on the couch then I got to clean it it's a mess I already do enough laundry I get three kids so I you were you were listening to my dog watch television that is incredible that is awesome I can picture it I hate it's something the silence could I get the silence part of it okay that's that's incredible I love hearing that all right so let's hear now shifting gears thank you for for uh oh yeah no thank you painting the picture there because I was I was hearing all this noise and I kept hearing all these kit anyways okay uh Stephen Curry who's part of Team USA and in future shows we can talk about the Olympics we could talk about it now but uh I'm hosting and if you want to join me for these I would love it I mean it's open door in terms of anytime you want to host together but uh I'm going to be hosting programs after every men's Olympic basketball uh game no offense to the women I just I only have enough brain power and time for to cover the men's side uh but after every men's game uh I'm going to be hosting and if you want to join me you can but the Olympics are around the corner Stephen Curry is competing in his first Olympics it's the one missing element of his resume that Olympic gold which will complete it it's the he'll have the egot version of a basketball player in terms of accomplishing everything uh that that's significant so here was Stephen Curry and Steve cerr the head coach of Team USA was alongside him talking about the fact that his Warrior Squad was the last Dynasty that will ever exist in the NBA and you and I had a had a a fun discussion about this before we started recording that now uh include as part of the show but here is what Steph had to say first with all the different rules and things changing in the NBA I I don't know I wonder do you think we're ever going to see another Dynasty like what you guys built again I don't think so just because uh it's very hard to keep things together in this league um there's a lot more player movement me clay and Draymond especially we complimented each other so well for so long we all brought something something different to the table so we'll see records are meant to be broken Dynasty come all different shapes and size so we'll see so and I I agree with the sentiment I think it's going to be very difficult given especially with the second second apron UC CBA crap like I think it's going to be very difficult to maintain success over the long run in this modern incarnation of the NBA but you think it's possible elaborate please well first of all let me elaborate on this I saw somebody I didn't get the name commented when you shared on the screen about 3:00 a.m. is when the games are if you think I'm freaking hopping on with you at 3:00 in the morning you you could you could put up my screen and then you could listen to me snore instead of the there is no freak yeah thank you Gilbert there is no freaking way forget I'm sucking it up I'm GNA do it I don't know what time they are but there's a better chance you're G to get another Dynasty than there is me doing that's number one all right but but no look I think it's I think it's difficult dynasties no matter what is going on or what what decade in the NBA or in any sport they're difficult right because you need a lot to go your way you need to first of all you've got to have young talent that you draft and develop because then for a while at least they're going to be cheap and then they grow together then you've got to have the money and assets to build around them with free agency and then you've got to have with the money you made and you're dealing with cap here you've got to be able to have enough to then keep the core players those two or three and maneuver everything else around right it is difficult to do do I think it's impossible I don't think it's impossible I mean I was saying this to you before now look I'm not saying the Celtics are a dynasty and who knows what's going to happen at least this level of them right but if you look at this team with Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown and what they have the other pieces you can move around when Drew holiday is gone get somebody else right but to have the Derek whites and the tatums and the guys that are already on this roster they've got enough where I don't think they're going to make the run that the Warriors did but Is it feasible they could be in three cons consecutive NBA Finals with this team it is feasible that they could be there and anything can happen so Is it feasible with Kyrie and Luca donic at his age where he's at right and whatever they get out of clay that Dallas can do that in the west and get there maybe to the level that the Warriors did it who knows we'll see but I don't think it's as impossible as the dubs are making it seem not as impossible as me being out there three in the morning doing doing any show I mean I used to do NBA TV at 2 o'clock in the morning and I'll share a quick story and a you not this please true so when I was doing years of NBA TV and I'd be sitting there with Dennis Scott and Steve Smith and all these guys and it would be like 2 o'clock in the morning we're waiting for the last game to end was Underdog your producer while you were doing this oh T over on the TNT side where and and the NCA tournament but not for not for NBA TV but yeah just under Hill is the best uh but he for those who don't know his real last name is Underhill that's why he's called Underdog but that's yeah anyway Joe Underhill is that I want to get him on the show at some point nicest ever he's also brilliant um so but you would do these shows and people watch like one live version but then they just rerun if you ever watch NBA TV or any of these shows and I've done all kinds of different ones and different channels they rerun over and over you're waiting for one last game to end I would have to drink an energy drink like I'm drinking now in the middle of the afternoon at one o'clock in the morning then I get home you think it's bad listening to the dog watch TV I'm sitting there till 5:00 in the morning can't get sleep so back then maybe I would but in any case long story short dynasties possible saying there's a chance 3 o'clock in the morning I'll be watching you on demand no problem well it's interesting that that hearing you say that you think the Celtics have the the potential and I'm not saying WR that I disagree that they have the potential to make three straight NBA Finals but they play in the same conference as your team the New York Knicks and let's get into this they had a phenomenal run this season the Jaylen Brunson Edition for your squad I cannot get over how they pull that off I can't get over the fact that the Mavericks were so dumb and not giving him the money giving him the bag to keep them they just let him walk and I'm sorry man trading uh Jaylen Brunson for Kyrie Irving that is not even dude like congratulations to the Knicks for getting Jaylen Brunson in the first place and now you've surrounded him with an unbelievable te team the Villanova Squad alone man dude take it away sir dude because you must be jelling but I also have to ask you don't think the Knicks can beat the the Celtics you think the Celtics possible well I think the Sixers with Paul George are are a problem if embiid is healthy they're a major problem anybody doesn't he look you never know what you're gonna get out of Philadelphia or at embiid with his health or with PG with his health either but they could be a problem but the thing with the Knicks is you know I don't think they would have beaten the Celtics in even if they were healthy but you go back to the first round when they had Brunson and Josh hardt healthy and anobi healthy forget Julius Randall by the way Allstar who I'm not mentioning who didn't even have the team at the time right but even with that team that they had they would have beaten Indiana and I think taken Boston under six or seven games now you look at this situation that to me is kind of it's It's a instead of A+ and what takes away from that is for people who don't realize the loss of Isaiah hartstein and going to the Thunder and how big of a deal that is that's a very big deal I think Shane Company They just added a big piece and for me it's a huge loss especially when you think about Mitchell Robinson who always seems to be injured and the minutes that Stein played in the and the position that he played for this Knicks team but if you look at where the Knicks are right now and you look at the depth of this team you've got a team that's got Jaylen Brunson and Mel Bridges in the back court and think about the defense too when you think about bridges and what he adds right anobi and Julius Randall high anobi and bridges now with their lengthen defensively at the Wings playing it two and three right and then you've got Mitchell Robinson in the middle by the way more defense and shot blocking to all set up and give jayen Brunson more space space than he's ever had additional shooting of bridges now what happens oh Off the Bench Dante dienzo who has become I know warri fans got love for him who has become an a a terrific player and for me should have been the most improved player in major in in a major league basketball in the NBA this year this is why I do too much baseball major league basketball I rolled off your tongue seamlessly but I think I think divon chenzo should have been the most improved player in the league you think about Josh Hart divon chenzo now coming off the bench with miles bright and all they have they need some more height but they're a very very deep and scary team does it make them better than the Celtics I don't think so but this is the best Knicks team that they've had since the 90s they are the most well-built they're the most well coached and Leon Rose and Tom tibo and that whole group have done a hell of a job to put this team in position the Knicks are absolutely one of the best two or three teams in the Eastern Conference and that's no brainer on paper going into the season are they deep enough now to overcome Tom tibo's habit of running players to the ground because that is so you think so okay that is that is's that's a huge weakness on his part as a coach man here's the thing though who how they didn't have enough pieces to not play the guys that they were playing I'm not talking postseason but the regular season numbers there were some games where I agree know it's a little much but I agree with that but I think I think they're in a better position because the idea that Hart and Devon chenzo are gonna come off the bench and that you have pieces that now you can take long runs and play Big minutes also you know know that guys like Julius Randall and Richard Robin these guys are G to get injured OG's going to get injured but I I I think the Knicks to me have a chance to be at least at least at worst the second best team in the Eastern Conference going into the season they're right there with Philly they just knocked him off obviously this past postseason so I like where the Knicks stand right now heading into the year they look really good they if I'm a Knicks fan look I'm we're both in our 40s and this is the best team 9s well I think this is even better than the 90s teams I mean the 90s think so should have beaten the Rockets if John Starks would have hit a three in the corner in game six and knock gone two for 17 in game seven I I so I did I I Derek Harper we had him on set i' never met him obviously does games with Dallas now for years but he came in and he did a couple of days with us at NBA TV and I sat with him and the first thing I asked him was why did you keep passing him the ball and he had no idea what the hell I was talking about and I was I was still bitter I was like look if Pat Riley wasn't G to put Rolando blockman in the game and I love John Starks can you please stop passing him the basketball number 11 uh but thank you uh Nicks are good Nicks are good I love that I love the name dropping I I do believe strongly that if that this current iteration of of the Knicks put them in 94 uh and they win the title I think they're better than that version but that's just me this is all opinions um but regardless if you're a Knicks fan you're you're elated this is I mean this is unbelievable man that trade you pulled off in the bridges is a really good player people do not pay attention because and he was playing for the Brooklyn Nets he this dude was putting up 40o games can shoot the ball can play defense and now goes from a number one option to being the number three option on the floor when Brunson and Randall are there it is going to be a the Knicks are going to be able to it's funny too because those Nick teams in the 90s you know people are used to watching the Golden State Warriors watching them run up and down the court I mean even you go back to the Mullen and the you know the the TLC G all of that right they're always exciting scoring a lot of points my Heyday of watching basketball is watching a team win 87 to 84 right with Anthony Mason and Charles Oakley and Anthony boner and Xavier McDaniel beating the out of the other team up and down the floor this is the most exciting the Nicks are gonna be able to score their abilities one-on-one and to shoot the basketball are better than this team has had in 30 years so obviously I'm excited I love that I Anthony Mason is always a player I think back of man that dude was a thug and the best way possible uh yeah that's I love taking a trip down memory Lan to 90s basketball man because you're right the scoring was nothing like it was now uh and then you had teams like I when you think back to the that era and this the teams that were putting up a lot of points it wasn't just the Warriors a team that I think of even more so were the nuggets the Nuggets were putting up like highest scoring game of all time I believe and the and there were only three three-pointers in that game that's incredible that is incredible crazy the evidence does show that the three-point shot even though for the obvious reasons it's worth more than a two you don't necessarily need it to be successful in the NBA if you are a very efficient uh a scoring team in general even if you're shooting twos and you have a great defense to back it up the three thing is not it's not an end all Beall like you're not going to be a team dead in the water if you don't have that and the reason why I think the Knicks have a very good shot to be the Celtics is because Boston had such an easy path this season this postseason like it was it was reminiscent of 2022 Warriors where like every team they faced had some sort of injury uh you know all the the opponents you were waiting for just you know because of injury again like the halberton thing for sure I mean obviously that takes that changes I I I don't think Indiana was beating them anyway to be honest but it changes the Optics of it no no not at all but next year if you have a Knicks team that's healthy and the Celtics are dealing with injury issues again to Chris christs porzingis I think the Knicks have an excellent shot man I I I'm high on him dude I I would buy that stock D I would buy that stock today I I would I would buy that stock and I think it's just going to go up and while the Celtics are the favorites we've seen it for the last five years we haven't had a repeat uh Champion since 2018 and a lot of it is comes down to two things one is when you're a champion that Target is suddenly on your back by the other 29 teams they see you and they think to themselves every time you come into the building or they're coming into uh uh Boston Garden that that is the champ we're we're going to take it up to another another level and we're going to try to take him down the Nuggets uh were were attributing that specific scenario in when they got beat by the Minnesota I know uh uh Mike Malone was was mentioning that that it's not easy when every other team looks at you and thinks to themselves we want to be the piss out of these guys because they're the reigning Champions right so the Celtics now have that Target on their back but the other part of it is and this is a human nature thing and I'd love to hear your your follow-up thoughts to this or if you disagree that's that's obviously fine too but there is complacency that comes with a championship and this is one of many reasons why I respect the Warriors Dynasty so much because the hunger of a title never made them complacent after their first championship they went out there and ran off 73 wins a record that likely will never be broken I mean who knows but I I don't think it's going to happen but since then since 2018 every one of these teams won a title and then the following year you have owners kind of taking a step back in terms of paying players to keep them all of the C is good for them they haven't done that it's the first time I haven't seen key players leaving after a title since I don't know when but the point is the Celtics have those two things going against them now the hunger of winning a title is no longer there maybe it is but it diminishes a little bit and then you have other teams suddenly rising up to another level playing against you so and that those are the two variables that makes it very hard to repeat as a champion and I also think it increases the odds of your Knicks getting there man any any thoughts you want to add to that well look I I'd say this I it's not only the complacency it's the shortest off season people don't never all the minutes and all the time that is spent going into the actual games on the court right and then you get to the point where you talk about a situation of having a parade and then you're on vacations and then you're licking your wounds and then you're being paraded around in magazines and SPS and everywhere else for all of the great ability that you have and all of the money now that you have right and all the you can rest on and you go from every games a game seven to going into camp and none of these games mean and it's difficult and it is really hard and that comes down to chemistry and I think to me that's one of the things about any Dynasty that never gets enough credit you need talent but it's always a supporting cast members that're interchangeable that core that chemistry from the coach down to the main players is the most important part of all of that that is how all that winning comes I'll just say this on the backside of that for the Knicks well saying that they're going to win a championship this year but it is rarified air that you've got four guys on an NBA team who all won national championships together Josh Hart excluded the other three won two national championships together so to have Brunson and Hart and divon chenzo and Mel Bridges who all have been winners at the highest level clearly unafraid by New York and have that kind of chemistry the Knicks could be a scary team but I always say this to Nick fans and you know Warrior fans will not understand this this because you guys have had too much joy and too much excitement but maybe you root for some shitty team somewhere okay I got an Islander logo behind me all right I started watching them in when a very early age when they were winning cups and since then it's been drinking out of large red cups watching the team okay when you're a Nick fan the light at the end of the tunnel is a train there's no light it's a train so for the Knicks I await injuries just like Jaylen Brunson and Hart and OG in the playoffs and Randall right before that because if those guys were healthy the Knicks would have had a shot to make a run this year don't forget uh Warriors fans very much sympathize and understand yeah not anymore they too much winning look at the Warriors before I mean look it's been 10 years of success it's been too long it's like talking about the Red Sox before and I covered them in 2004 it's like talking about before that okay this 86 Years and may rest Tim Wakefield against Aaron Boone 2003 nobody cares about any of that now Bucky bleep and Dent or any of that the Red Sox have won three World Series since then and all is fine so what you're saying is this is kind of like the like a Patriots fan still crying about Steve Grogan or like whoever like like come on man all right all right Tony een all I gotta say is some trauma sticks with you man Andre Tipp it I'm trying to think about all my tops cards for the Patriot so so so sorry you always make me laugh so hard man uh Isaiah Harden left the Knicks he signed with the OKC Thunder the OKC Thunder look dangerous dude like if you told me that they're the favorites next year I can't argue with you no uh I mean there's a few other teams in their league your thoughts on the thunder man because that team looks dangerous as fbom dude I I loved Shay when he came in it's funny because Summer League is what it is but doing it for three years I remember watching Shay G has relevy I think relevancy seeing seeing him play for the first time live and talking to friends of mine who know a lot more about Kentucky than I do in terms of really the ins and outs of what was going on there when he played and he never never had a lot of the attention didn't get the playing time and all those different things are fine but he he's such a star they have a they have a a well-built machine that continues to get better that's the thing about the West is the East is now filled with the three teams that are really well put together there's a lot of veterans and a lot of injury concerns that are mixed in there you've got a lot of Youth in the west and when you think about the teams that are growing in Minnesota getting better and better with Edwards who by the way speaking of the USA how about he said doesn't change if Durant's hurt or whoever's hurt I'm the number one option I mean very interesting uh but here's a guy who clearly not short on ego or talent and you think about their growth you think about OKC and what they're doing in their growth and the age of Luca who to me is my favorite player to watch in the NBA right now and what he's doing there's a lot of young talent in the western conference right now all those teams are getting better uh by the way do do you agree with Brandon Katz who writes in the chat the Thunder are not the favorites uh I don't I we got to look up the BET online uh you know odds for next season because they got to be one of them but he also says that's a dumb take look at him like like just with an attack uh just to just to counter real fast the the OKC Thunder finished last season with the best record in the NBA they've lost no one of significance they added not just Isaiah hardenstein but they also added Alex Caruso but appar but apparently who I love too but apparently that's a dumb take with all these young uh players just getting a year better is that a dumb take I don't am dummy am stupid I mean you know I I don't want to get on Brandon you know it sounds like on Brandon you know you got two members of the tribe here you know his last name is cats I mean this seems like you know some Jewish un-jewish crime um Catz Deli big fan of cats Deli back in New York um I actually don't like cats you know I have nipples Greg can you milk me I could take this anywhere you want to go um no I I I think that I think the Thunder clearly should be among the favorites I think when you watch what when you watch what Dallas did in the postseason and you think about adding Klay Thompson and I even though he's not the same player that he was I need tell that to a dubs fan the fit that he is with that team which I think is a darn good one um you can make a case that it's a little more wide open than saying anyone is the favorites but no that's not that's not a dumb take if if you if you were to say the Brooklyn Nets were the favorites in the East that would be a dumb take I think if you said the the the Sacramento Kings were the favorites to come out of uh the West that might be a dumb take but they're gonna be better they're gonna be better though and and I lead into that because the Kings made a deal for Demar D rozan they gave up virtually nothing for him and that and it's always blows my mind when you see these deals where teams are getting Superstars for virtually nothing all it does is just draw my ey toward my team and and I I Look to in this case the Warriors going why the hell are you just standing Pat not making a big move um I think this was a fantastic Edition for the Kings I think this makes Sacramento the best team in Northern California right now um they're starting five uh what what are we looking at here dearen Fox demaro Rosen Keegan Murray damont sabonis I don't know who the is but I'm missing somebody clearly but that's a great team that's a great team I I think they're much better I love Demar de R rozan same and he he has been kind of a wildly underrated player and I think part of that came from this idea that when he left Toronto that was what opened the door to them winning the championship and that's not the case because that would here watch this call back Brandon that would be a dumb take that that Kawai character had something to do with all of that clearly I'm G to have a rim shot sound effects soon but I think but I think D rozan has been kind of wildly underrated he's a guy who could take over games for you and has you he's a a premier scorer in terms of his ability with the basketball when you think about what they already have with the growth of what sabonis has shown the last couple years and we know what Daran Fox can do speaking of Kentucky I really like that team but again that's another team that's a lot of Youth that just added a veteran who's got Savvy and a lot of scoring ability who can go be another one option for you I like Sacramento I do and and and Kev F saying uh herder would be the the fifth starter even though they're trying to move him yeah I don't know who the fifth starter is going to be for that team but I love the move uh and and kudos to the Sacramento Kings as as Warriors fans wait for hopefully what will be their turn uh in the market um again tomorrow's show that I'm doing with Larry Krueger I'm going to break down every possible player in the entire NBA landscape that the Warriors could pursue as a plan B how long is this show uh as long as we want that's no that you're gonna do tomorrow like you're gonna you're gonna profile every NBA player not a profile because because a lot of the teams will have nobody right so I'm literally just gonna do my research and I'm gonna present to the audience tomorrow who the hell is out there on every other team that the Warriors could in theory try and make a trade proposal for example Portland seems to be an obvious one maybe not obvious but they stick out to me because they have two bigs I don't know if you like them I don't know if I like them I do like well let me let me rephrase that I like the idea of Robert Williams AKA Time Lord coming to the Warriors I know he's injury-prone but I also love Rick celebrini and the work he's done with keeping players healthy for the Warriors so Robert Williams if you're getting him for let's say Andrew Wiggins sign me up I think that's a great deal uh now but if you're looking at DeAndre Aiden that's a whole other Beast right the guy's a headcase you don't know if he's gonna show up depending on the day uh he's got an incredible talent but it's just it's the the the mental part of it we I know if that's really there in terms of a full commitment but but if any culture could fix that right I the javil McGee and how many other guys do we have that we could put in the category of I mean look let's be honest it gets fixed right like you go back to the Patriots I don't know why I keep bringing them in but you you mentioned dynasties and clearly you know they' got they've got that feel outside of my Eli Manning beating him twice but that's okay um but Randy Moss was a guy who was considered to be oh well you know he's a head case can't do anything in yada yada and I understand they broke a lot of Records but that 18 and one they didn't win the Super Bowl but at the same time you know you talk about what he did with Tom Brady and he fit right in we've seen this in the NBA all the time when you've got enough there and they've got enough there with Steph and Draymond and Steve Kerr that I I I I think you could figure it out with Aon you're also not asking him to carry you you know it's not this isn't this isn't like when he was drafted he's going to go change a he's not here to change your franchise but I do like Robert Williams I love the violence and the athleticism I'm a big fan of all that on the court I'm big fan no I'm absolutely with you man um what are we missing here dude what do you want to talk about I I I feel like I went through my gamut of topics uh I feel like I'm forgetting something I think I think JJ reck is going to be a great basketball coach thank you La Land we can't finish a show without talking about La uh let's talk about the Lakers I think it was a disastrous off season so far demard de rzan was clearly on their radar the thing that sticks out to me most of this offseason and I don't even know if you've heard of this Casey's but buddy hee admitted that he was recruited by the Lakers it came down to him deciding between LA and The Warriors and he picked the Warriors because he thought they had a better chance of winning which is that's crazy uh so that's where La is all they've done this offseason as far as I know is uh LeBron's son y yay it's not going to do anything LeBron took less money to to leave room for space in a cap that they can't spend M to get anybody apparently exactly uh but I I look here's the thing I I think the Lakers are a mess and a lot of that comes down to the way they're built a lot of that comes down to where they're run let's go the good and the bad I'll go bad firste bad news is I have no problem if LeBron helps run the team okay that's it or did I lose you did you freeze on me Casey you muted yourself I don't I can't hear you can you hear me I I muted myself back oh there we you got me you got me now can you hear me okay now are we good yes they used to call that in the radio industry yeah I don't know why I cannot hear you you can't hear me now you hear me I can hear you yes no yes I I can hear you yes you can hear me I can hear you I hear perect by the way this is our first rodeo just in case I can't hear you no I don't know why leave and come back that's usually the S come yeah exactly that's that's usually the reboot is usually how how that situation gets resolved um Casey Stern will be be back with us in in just a minute by the way while he's uh he's coming back um nine times out of 10 I'm happy with my haircuts this one I'm not very happy with you know either when you get a haircut either it looks good right away or you have to wait a couple weeks for your hair to grow back and that's one of these I got the summer DW that uh did not pan out but I got a I got a question for the audience okay Casey's back can hear me now right I hear you perfectly okay good all right so that um and I'm asking the audience this I want some feedback because this will also help with their athetic should I start wearing collared shirts like Casey should I start looking I'm not wearing I'm not wearing a collared shirt you're not no holy it looked like it I apologize well it doesn't change change the question should I start wearing a cge shirt should I start spiffing up a little more the Beard's never going anywhere but do do people care about that stuff what's your feedback man should should Us in the modern media landscape where most of us are on YouTube now and do the podcast podcast doesn't matter but for the YouTube side of it should we be dressing up a little more like is the T-shirt thing cool no t-shirts are fine I look I I had to wear a suit and tie and wear makeup for many years and it's not you tell the audience about that that's the topic that no one ever talk discusses that everybody everybody that's on camera wears makeup you don't have a choice well they they make you up so without making this too much a gender thing because women are usually uh you women grow up T typically not always but and they by free time but like but you have so if you have a forehead that's as big as mine right CU it's receding and if they don't put the powder on here you still got it though man it's not gone yet you're still there you see the glare here if you put that in the lights of a camera in a studio like a Turner or MSG or anywhere else that I worked you you'll be blinded in your living room so you can't so yeah I they put makeup on you but it's not like a lot but regardless point being no t-shirts are fine I just want to say this really quickly two things one LeBron if you're if you're LeBron James you should have input on who's on the team that's fine the problem I have with it is the lack of sincerity and the fact that the Lakers pretend like he has nothing to do with it which is total BS so you're saying it's okay LeBron the GM you're cool with I don't think he's the actual GM but of course he's in the conversations and he should be he's LeBron James you're he's earned that right whether you like the guy I'm sorry can I flip can I flip it around for one second and go to the Warriors I wish Steph was more like LeBron in terms of interjecting yeah that's fine and to Case in point uh uh two or three years ago I interviewed Steph and I brought this up with him I said I asked Steph do you wish the team would be more aggressive in pursuing let's say bigger players right because I brought up to Steph like I think this team is small um and this was the 2022 season the year they won the championship uh and he responded Yes he wanted it he he didn't even like hesitate he and he was like and then he jokingly said you know if you can if if if give a a channel to the GM voice that because I would love that he that's what he literally told me so I I do wish Steph would um be a little more outspoken in terms of what he thinks the team there's nothing wrong with that there's nothing wrong with that so I no the insincerity with it is the issue that's number one number two bronnie is a 55th pick in the draft nobody that great is coming out at that time anybody it's not ruin your roster and if they drafted him which of course they did of course they did because LeBron's son it could make them tons of money at the attention that it's getting in summer league do you know what that's going to do for them in terms of all the things that they could do with sponsorships and ratings and everything else when they're back on the floor it doesn't it's it's not a problem for me because it makes sense because it's business I get it they don't care if he scores two points as long as he spends two minutes on the floor with LeBron and they connect for some allei hoop it's the that's it that's the world to them just be honest about it I have no issue with anything that they've done in terms of that because they got money he doesn't have to play a lot of minutes anyway and it's worth a shot it's not like they missed down on the greatest player that's ever lived at number 55 to do this but just stop lying about it the thing I will say though is taking out the fact that they could be a mess because that could stand in the way I listened to a lot of podcasts over the last number of years there isn't a podcast that I've listened to over the last number of years that is better than old man in the three and oh interesting okay JJ reick is as brilliant a basketball mind as I've heard in the last 10 years and I watch that podcast all the time he is brilliant his ex's and O's are brilliant he understands the game just like you know there's a reason why his best friends in the game are also nut jobs who are brilliant like Chris Paul right and look CP3 knows a thing or two about basketball okay Hall of Famer so he's a dick but he's brilliant the question is gonna be and so is JJ right it seems so the question is gonna real quick before you continue I just I start in R but I just want to add JJ um I I've never gotten the impression that JJ is is is an a-hole uh I actually interviewed him back in the in the 2000s with in a show with beli's founder Braun hou Stam him and I go way back former he's a former pro Surfer for people unfamiliar I doubt anyone cares at this point but uh Braun and JJ reic are friends and which is why when when JJ got hired I texted Braun I'm like dude congrats you now have an the in of ins the head coach of the Lakers but my point is JJ even though he used to be a huge party animal like when he came out of Duke he wasn't known for being someone who's cerebral role for being like you know uh a book nerd for being someone who studies X's and O's but he was the nicest guy imaginable he was Johnny good time on the show uh you know if you if you go way back in college basketball you know JJ used to love the party and have a good time so this is great additional insights I never really knew much about him as an ex as a nose guy you're saying he's like podcast if you're a basketball fan you should go spend the next two weeks going and watching every episode they've ever done his his interviews with with Chris Paul and Draymond who's been that show and a million others it's the best basketball pod I think that's out there outside of this one of course um so I'm a I'm a huge reic fan I don't know if this mess is going to be the right spot but I remind people for those who are fans of of baseball Joe Tor once managed the Mets before he managed the Yankees Terry Fran cona managed the Phillies and was a disaster before he managed the Red Sox JJ reick may end up having success coaching somewhere else someday down the road but I don't think this is a Derek fiser scenario where he is in there added there is some kind of an embarrassment as a coach I think he's going to be really good at it you know the Lakers on paper I don't think look horrible like I I look at the roster right now so they've done nothing the D'Angelo Russell part of it to me is the worst part of it because he can't play defense even though he can shoot the ball it's not consistent um and that's the part that I think you got to figure out like D'Angelo Russell to me is to the Lakers what Andrew Wiggins is to the Warriors He's not a bad player but he's not going to make your team a champion except he didn't help you win a championship the way that Wiggins did the Warriors that's fair so so we'll give we'll give a we'll give a point to Wiggins there for following what you said but I'm looking at this roster like Austin Reeves LeBron James ruy hatur when the discussion was briefly uh uh signed in trades with Klay Thompson I was looking at this Lakers roster and I'm thinking to myself I would like ruy I would like Jared Vanderbilt sign me up we're in and then we found out the Warriors did not want to take back any salary in aign a trade and that's part of the reason why he went to Dallas also Clay wanted to go to Dallas because interestingly enough he said in an interview or at least through a source that the Lakers reminded him too much of the Warriors and he wanted a different environment um so so there we are but I'm looking at the the Lakers on paper like cam reddish actually I don't like cam reddish that much but Gabe Vincent I do like uh the rookie they drafted Dalton connect can shoot the ball uh the guy they just gave Max Christie they gave him a new extension he's a good player like this is Jaylen H chafino uh I I think he's going to turn out to be an an excellent basketball player he's very young got no playing time last year my point is like the Lakers I don't think are the show that a lot of people are making them out to be but they're not a championship team either I don't know your thoughts no I they they don't have enough sporting pieces out of their aging stars and one that's overaging like you know I said my dog was 107 he's only a year older than LeBron so you know they really need some some guys to help fill out their depth especially when you're dealing with minutes that you've got to be careful of during the course of the season I don't think they're a deep enough team are they a team that if they were he going to the playoffs could put together a week or two win a series or two maybe maybe but I I don't think they're that good and the problem is is that all the teams now are deeper and younger than they are and that's that's in the west if the Lakers were in the Eastern Conference and you tell me you're putting that team up against a team like Philadelphia and you know you're battling it out maybe but when you talk about the speed and the youth that is out there in the west right now with some of these teams I just don't buy the Lakers at all no they'll be okay they're not terrible they'll be all right they're be all right exactly and so so the JJ reic hiring your opinion you like him but it's not going to be a Difference Maker is that fair I don't think I don't know if he's gonna be a Difference Maker for the Lakers in terms of with this group but I think he's going to be a really good NBA coach and I think it's going to surprise some people the other La team and and Casey I think if you're down for this I'd like to bring on some guests in with with future shows even if it's just for quick hits just because there's so many individual team experts that I think we could bring on and add some some knowledge and insights uh that we won't be able to provide but I'm looking right now because I got a great guest he hosts What's called the pull-up podcast uh BJ Matthews I think is his name I'll try to bring him on for a future show he covers I want to know his name if you're gonna bring him on the show a deal that's fair that's fair that's I'll do my research uh so sorry for BJ for forgetting your last name but I I'm looking at the LA Clippers depth chart right now and I'll share my screen just to show you how ridiculous this is um and when it comes to depth charts I I usually go to ESPN and ESPN only has four positions only has four players for the I've never seen this in my life so the Clippers depth chard right now has James Harden who is I can't I cannot believe they paid him the money he got I would never do that Derek Jones I thought was a good signing Kawhi Leonard we all obviously know who he is and then zubach that's the only four they have they don't even have a fifth player right now I like Amir coffee uh Nicholas patum did go back to the Clippers he just loves that team for some reason they got him mooma but this Clippers team I don't think is doing a damn thing next year they got PJ they're paying PJ Tucker who's gonna turn 39 this year maybe he's 39 already but he's gonna be 39 this season they're paying him 11 million he doesn't want to be there they don't want him they're stuck with him that's the Clippers your thoughts yeah not good not good worse than the Lakers I mean they could be worse than the Lakers because you're really relying on James Harden to do the one thing you don't ever want him to do and that's be a oneman band and there's a lot of times with you the injuries to kawhai and everything else that you're going to have guys look I I don't they they've got a you know a really good coach that's got a really te tough team to coach and it's unfortunate but I don't think the Clippers I don't think either team in La is a major factor they both could be playoff teams but honestly you know I don't I don't see them as again not young enough not deep enough and right now those are the two key words Youth and depth for me when you're looking at these teams in the west at the top I'm uh some people in the chat are saying there's some breaking news I'm looking I'm I'm right now looking at Adrian W janowski's Twitter account I see nothing new except for uh Haywood heith who was briefly linked with the Warriors he's gonna return to the Miami Heat a two-year 11 million deal Daniel Ty has agreed to a one-year deal with the New Orleans Pelicans he's going to replace uh the loss of I'm brain farting on his name uh uh valent chunis um so I guess he replaces him there I don't see anything from W in terms of anything regarding Lori marinan and real fast Shams is always the other one that you go to that's your onew punch in terms of breaking NBA news and Shams is not reporting anything with Lori Markin and so whoever is saying that right now I don't see anything verifying it so nice was it Brennan cats was it Bren they call that a call back in the industry was it Brennan cats no oh man I love you Casey is there anything else we no I mean I'm I'm just looking forward we we'll we'll have a lot of fun doing this every week and you know people can uh bounce off and give us any ideas on things that they want us to discuss and take conversations that obviously you want to bring up and just uh again make sure because cross promotion is promotion if you are sitting here and you're watching unfiltered with unfiltered with Casey sterer you're listening on my podcast Apple Spotify everywhere you go get over to Cyrus's YouTube channel right now and go subscribe if you are on Cyrus's YouTube channel and you're a Warriors fan and a die hard and you're in there and 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