Fresh Perspective on Golden State Warriors Letting Klay Thompson Go & Signing De'Anthony Melton

this is a crazy day not just in the NBA but especially for the Golden State Warriors Klay Thompson a staple of the Dynasty is gone apparently the Warriors are getting nothing back in return for them and then they use their mid-level exception on a point guard yeah I'm stoked I'm thrilled I have to bring a Lakers fan on the show to make me feel better over this the good news is he's not just a Lakers fan he is the mayor an actual mayor of threads that platform that I've been on for almost a year maybe over a year I lost track of time many years ago no pun intended I and David rushing AKA yo Rush is joining the program we're gonna shed some tears together misery loves company because the Lakers last I checked haven't done anything they lost out on the Klay Thompson sweep Stakes let's talk about what's going on with the Warriors and the Lakers and break it all down let's all commiserate together let's all be miserable together because so far this is not looking good maybe it'll be better we'll find out for now enjoy the golden be that is it for us today and we will leave you with a I can't do it well do it live it do it live and things suck let's go in a minute I'mma need a FAL man or woman to pump me up come and break me off what I want oh yeah be in the house welcome to the golden days am Cyrus saas he is David rushing you can follow him on threads at yo Rush the mayor of NBA threads I think I just said the mayor of threads originally it's the mayor of NBA threads more specifically follow him on threads follow me on threads at dog wild same handle for Instagram I'm sort of back on Twitter as minimally as possible just the mark of my new program I'm an ad surf journalist there but David you're a Lakers fan it's great to have you on the show we're gonna talk about your team as well but this is a Warriors audience the the chat is already lighting it up in terms of dude dub nation is in a days right now I I don't even know what to say about it but David it is really nice to finally meet you virtually in in an interpersonal manner how the hell are you doing before we talk about your team the Lakers sure let's get the let's dis discuss the Warriors a little bit because we have to man this has been an insane day despite the fact the Lakers lost out on Klay Thompson your immediate thoughts to what currently as being reported is Klay Thompson going to the Dallas Mavericks a three- team sign and trade that the Warriors supposedly don't even know about like like supposedly they're in the dark right now that's the impression I'm get getting uh they're likely going to get a trade exemption back which means they're getting nothing back literally except for some sort of right to make a trade uh down the road and then they use their mid-level exception on DeAnthony Melton let's get a fresh perspective a non-w Warriors fan perspective on that move and how the hell are you doing David good to see you yeah thanks s uh really appreciate you bringing me on this is uh this is something new for me uh I would say kind of coming into Enemy enemy Waters Uncharted Territory a little bit but you and I we've always had a good rapport and your fan base or your F your uh your followers and you know the your warriors fans who hop in the chat will be happy to know I'm not a delusional Lakers fan I'm very grounded very down to earth um I don't think we're getting I didn't think we were getting Paul George or anybody else like that so um hopefully uh we can we can have some fun tonight but yeah I mean the Klay Thompson news it's it's kind of like the worst kept secret for the last six months that actually you know finally came true it it it finally came to uh fruition um I think this morning it was reported wi horse reported that it was down to the Lakers in Dallas um as a Lakers fan I was hopeful I wanted to see clay in purple and gold for a while but um yeah I guess this afternoon it it hit while I was I was driving that that Dallas andum the fact that the circumstances are are kind of crazy like you said that the Warriors really no one really knows what's going on or the the actual composition of the trade but the first thing that comes to mind for me is just it's really like the end right like I'm a Lakers fan but I mean any pure basketball fan um since Steph and Clay the Splash Brothers and Draymond um you know went on their run uh all those titles like I enjoyed it it was great it was Peak basketball for me um even though the the warriors were the ones winning um and to see clay leave you know on in bad terms nonetheless uh it just you know it hurts even as a even as a Lakers fan it's it's sad to see but um you know now it's about moving on uh and making the best with what you've gotten I guess as of right now that's De Anthony meldon well yeah we'll get into the Melton thing just a second um but going back to Klay Thompson for a second again after 13 years he says goodbye uh to the Golden State Warriors a culmination of of Bad Blood might be a strong way of putting it but clearly um hard feelings between clay and Joe lob over the over the negotiations uh I don't doubt that in Joe lob's mind when they offered clay two years $48 million last year that in his mind he thought this is an amazing offer $24 million dollar a year guaranteed for two years that is a bud load of cash but in Clay's mind he's thinking I've done all this for you I've been a a key member of a dynasty and you're rewarding me with a a contract that's shorter than what you offered Steph and Draymond and and the money is not to my liking basically I I mean so it just it fell apart and Klay Thompson now a member of the Dallas Mavericks what's particularly though fascinating to me in all this is again the Warriors this is now this is according to Anthony Slater what he's been tweeting and I haven't really gotten any other information on this besides that but the Warriors supposedly are uninformed in other words uh this this all this is happening without the anybody bothering to check in with the Warriors and and asking them hey are you cool with this what do you want to return I saw another report somewhere I forgot from who where a trade exception that the Mavericks or acquired in the Tim Hardway Jr trade is what's eventually going to be circled back to the Warriors they also might get a second round pick um none of that excites me a trade exemption my biggest issue with that is the Warriors have had that in previous years they got a big one uh in the Andre Iguodala trade some years back when they s Memphis and didn't use it uh don't use them and and you're not forc to use it so it's an asset that if you just sit there and watch it it's going to go away uh at least under the old CBA I don't know what the new cba's rule is on this but the rule used to be if you don't use your exception for a year it it's it's gone and so the Warriors are in this position right now and I really hope um Francisco BOS for example in the chat writes The Warriors are G to make a big move I know it I hope you're right I love the optimism and but what's your take on this dude and I guess two-part question for you rush sure one what's your take on the fact of the Warriors uh have apparently decided that the sign of trade is just going to be for a trade exception like how do you feel about that because I I don't like it one bit I think it's ridiculous and two what is your opinion on the Lakers who also haven't done anything and they were supposedly in the running to get Klay Thompson Klay Thompson's dad Michael Thompson former Lakers Center wanted Klay to go to the Lakers he expressed this publicly on Twitter and you guys strike out too your thoughts um well so really and and I'm I know you've already talked about this in in Prior shows but this is the second sort of head scratcher move that Mike dun Ley Jr has has made or or I guess maybe not made right I mean the the rumored Chris Paul Andrew Wiggins um trade yesterday that I think it was for Zack LaVine uh and maybe maybe a first that they apparently just said no no to didn't even didn't even negotiate about um that was a head scratcher because I I feel like um I'm not going to make make it sound like the Zack LaVine contract is in an albatross I mean it's it's significant um but I think trading out two bad contracts for for one and a guy who's not yet 30 um can still fill it up someone who can take the the pressure off of Step especially in late game situations can drop 50 we've seen him do it a number of times um and then you you factor that in with the development of the young guys that you got pods um I felt like that could have been a a good way to kind of get out of the the wigin CP3 uh situation so it's just it's just two kind of straight days of you know you don't it seems like they don't really have a plan right it seems like now they're they're reacting more than being proactive with whatever their shortterm long-term vision is um I mean Steph is 36 Sam he and I are are the same age 36 37 so I mean unless he's going to be like the Ron and play to his early 40s I mean you don't really have much time left to sort of put a another Contender around him um so when you have opportunities to get Firepower like LaVine I feel like you have to take a hard look at it and it was kind of disappointing to see they didn't um but speaking of disappointing my my Lakers are um making it really hard uh to to step out into the sunlight as a Lakers fan because the whole thing was a first going to get a third star okay maybe not the third star okay now we're going to get you know maybe like a mid- tier midlevel acception player LeBron's going to wait on you know resigning his contract names come out Jonas valent chunis harden clay and we don't get anybody like it's just you just kind of Wonder like again we're we're not really doing anything uh seemingly so I'm getting kind of ancy it seems like we're just going to end up running the pretty much the same team back uh DLo opted in um I think it was reddish and uh and hay opted in as well so you know for all T of purposes it looks like it's going to be the same team I I would imagine there's a trade looming somewhere um but if not you know we're we're looking at the same team that was a play in and got a g got on this receiving end of a gentleman week in the playoffs so um not a whole lot to be optimistic about as a Lakers fan but at the end of the day we do still have LeBron James who is um continuing to defy odds and and keep father time on the ropes although he's you know he's not a top five player anymore maybe not even top 10 uh but we do still have ad there's some you know maybe a little bit of optimism with with JJ coming in I've I've just accepted that JJ is is the coach now and uh he says he wants to use ad as a h so that could be interesting because there's a lot of late situations last season where ad just wasn't involved um especially even when when LeBron was was resting be it the first night or a second night of a back toback uh it was just kind of Reeves and DLo and just you know long shot David Francisco BOS in the chat I mean dude you got Brony that's what more do you need your offseason set I don't you know like I don't I totally agree with them your team's fine let's let's move on I I'm kidding uh go ahead sorry no um you know I I have no I I get it's it's a good it's a good punchline um it'll probably it'll probably last for at least the first season but I'm actually kind of I mean big surprise right as Lakers fan I'm a homer but um no I I I kind of think it's it's a cool cool thing um but interestingly enough I have started thinking once you get on the other side of acknowledging the cool moment like how does that how's that how does that work right like I I try to imagine like if I was playing with my dad right and I kicked the ball up to him on a fast break and he fumbled it normally I would like clap my hands and yell at a teammate like I gotta yell at if I gotta yell at my dad and say Hey you know get it together so um that would be that's Dynamic I mean I don't know how many games they're actually going to play together uh I would imagine probably not many unless just things go this season just goes real sideways real quickly um but you know uh that that that'll be that'll be be a cool moment but yeah it's it's it kind of lets you know how your offseason's going if if bronnie is your you know top acquisition although I don't want to slight connect I'm sorry is your headline there is no chance in hell that's going to be the move I I still my prediction is DeMar D rozen is gonna end up with your squad he's still out there uh and and I there's no chance in hell the Lakers aren going to do anything but yeah the inactivity I'm sure is driving uh you crazy uh like like any fan base um now you know one thing in the chat that I saw that I did like reading and real earlier today Damon Bruce and I did a live show and within this hour like the Klay Thompson news dropped the the DeAnthony Melton news dropped it was a crazy show uh and we were talking early on about signing trade partners for clay and how Dallas and La were the two teams and the Mavericks I mean I'm sorry the Lakers had some terrific assets that we were dreaming about like like Jared Vanderbilt uh potentially coming back Rory Hatcher mura potentially coming back in a signning trade and then you get the news that it's Dallas and it's and you're getting back a trade exemption which is just just as nine um the DeAnthony Melton side of this and this Douglas Mike's in the chat this is where I absolutely love doing live shows and I love this audience so many of them are just incredibly bright wrote in the chat and this look if that's if the DeAnthony Melton signing leads to this all good he writes that DeAnthony Melton basically means that Gary Peyton II is Expendable uh Melton is a good Defender he's a solid Defender um but his and and even though gp2 is far better hopefully Melton will be more durable this year I know missed a lot of time last season because of a back injury side note another huge flag for a player you're committing 13 million to um but if the DeAnthony signing results in a bigger trade where gp2 where maybe kabon Looney where Andrew Wiggins some sort of package evolving those three where you don't have to move your young pieces if if if it leads to those three being moved for let's say Zack Laine right yeah in aign a trade if it's if it ends up being something like that then all good great yeah right then this ends up working out what are your thoughts on that yeah I think if I mean if the if if that's a scenario that's that's out there if that's something that they can put together absolutely I think you at this point you kind of have to right um You you really I think are going to need uh a consistent uh contributor on offense that you know can take some pressure off of off of Steph um Wiggins we've seen or you guys have seen all of us who watch basketball I've seen is is highly inconsistent um and you know you only had Chris Paul for a little bit of time and he was he was older so um I think yeah I mean just that I would ask you know I guess I would ask you just as as a Warriors fan as someone who's really in tune with with with the team like I mean if you don't get someone like a LaVine or somebody who who can step in and give you you know 20 night I mean who's going to carry that load for you offensively I know you've got kaminga but um I mean who else can kind of who's who's a veteran presence who's demonstrated that they can do it night and a night out I mean who can you can you really lean on that's a good question what you're asking basically is is is who's who's the second scorer right like last year the Klay Thompson was tasked with that with that role being the second scorer and he averaged just under 18 points a game side know by the way rush I don't mean to make you feel even older but Clay is 34 turning 35 this year get your goddamn fact trade next time you come on this show I'm kidding I'm totally teasing um but no no so so you're you're a whole year older than clay uh so but you're you're right the Warriors right now lack a second option for for Steph now de DeAnthony Melton and John Holmes in the chat he's not the porn star by the way um but I love his contributions hold he wrote something oh here so John Holmes in the chat wrote that Melton is better than you think I don't I don't deny that DeAnthony Melton is a solid player two huge flags for him one being that he missed time last year because of a back injury those aren't the types of injuries that you want to pick up those are the ones that can linger those are the ones where there's no just uh you know easy path recovery if if the injury is complicated but two and more importantly dude it's just it's this it's the land of Hobbits the population's growing like the entire problem with the Golden State Warriors is this damn small ball that is Antiquated that is is is not a realistic formula for success in the modern game and you just went ahead and used one of your biggest tools the mid-level exception for a 63 guard now the player I really wanted unfortunately got resigned by the Orlando Magic Goa badatz but then when you hear the amount that the magic gave him three years 25 million the Warriors could have offered way more than that but instead they let Orlando resign him and so and the Warriors go with a guy who who's 63 63 in today's NBA and and and what really bugs me about it is you know DeAnthony Melton and Stephen Curry are going to be sharing the court a lot and that means for another year you have a backourt where chances are you have two players standing at 63 or shorter and it doesn't work defensively it's it's like you cannot stop opposing teams when they don't have to worry about their shot being blocked right it's not complicated and so I that's the part that drives me absolutely insane and yes Douglas Mike uh bats got resigned by the magic so that's my that's my frustration here man and again if if if they're not making other moves you're right where the hell is the second score coming from now now my guess is they're going to count on Brandon psky a little more because he is an outstanding outside shooter and he started figuring that out later in the season he shot 43.8% from Deep uh in college his his final year at Santa Clara but again it that's that's a huge if no guarantees and right now I don't have an answer for you who the number two scorer is that is going to be a problem unless the Warriors make another move uh if you don't mind adding on to that or if you have any other thoughts no I I I think that it's just like you know it's just a reality of the situation right now you know losing clay effectively for for nothing um it kind of put you in that in that bind I I like the idea of you know potentially trading uh G Gary Peyton second just because there is a redundancy there a little bit with with Melton and then then Steph I myself I'm not really a fan of of small back courts especially when you get into the postseason and teams really Scout and exploit so uh I would hope that maybe there's there's a deal in the works just for you know a taller you know just a taller guard combo guard be it that it may or or maybe even even a point just just some height some length um I'm just I'm just a fan of of height and length and and small back courts usually don't do it for me now you've got Steph who um is obviously the outlier so I mean he's going to be able to do what he does um but when you're talking about excuse me um when you're talking about again just that second score um it just looks kind of Bleak right now so hopefully they can get somebody to take Wiggins because it it seems especially with the uh the Olympics uh storyline it seems like everything is is heading toward a divorce this this offseason or at least just before next season um so hopefully that can turn into something um and then if if gp2 is now looked at as as Expendable because you have melon you know that could that could get you something so um know it's I I've been reading a lot of the uh the the senior writers on online and um as you said I I seem sort of impatient right now which I am but with you know with the new CBA and the aprons and all that everyone has really said that things are moving a lot more slowly this year as opposed to to to more recent um off Seasons so it's it's something where you know you're used to that first day and a half like all the all the signings are are pretty much done and you're down to the minimums um it's probably going to take a little bit more time now to see Team you know really execute their B plan B's and C's uh to to fill the rosters out so um I'm optimistic maybe we can be optimistic together as two as two uh as two teams that that are seemingly headed for another playin uh type season um that that you know our front offices can can turn things around and maybe get some pieces in that can that can help our fortunes be a little bit different yeah I hope so too you know when you talk about plan B's and plan C rush and and we're joined by the mayor of NBA threads David rushing you can follow him on threads and I'm guessing by default on Instagram as well at yo Rush uh speaking of plan B's and C's um is there anyone out there who's still available besides the mar Rosen that excites you um because because this would apply not just to the Lakers but to the Warriors who do still have a by anual exemption um approximately 5 million that they could that they could still spend and again they have a lot of trade options now especially with that trade exemption coming in but who who are you looking at anyone uh and I'm sorry if I put you on the spot and you haven't done your research I'm just curious no no no no no um a lot of them have been a lot of them have signed elsewhere but uh I maybe Luke Canard I think I know he's he's still out there uh Southpaw uh can can shoot um and and can can do some things actually off the dribble uh as as well so surprisingly I know most people think of him as sort of like a catch and shootter spot up but um can can do some things off the bounds um after that I I really don't I wanted Jonas Jonas was at I mean I know I'm not really a GM but Jonas was top yeah Val junis was sort of at the top of of my list I thought that he could be a get for the mid level and I mean he signed for even less than than what the Lakers could have given him so um maybe maybe the fact that he couldn't be guaranteed a starting role played into to him going to Washington of of all teams um and real fast by the way before move on I just I or before you continue on I just have to address something in the chat here um because I'd like to to correct factual inaccuracies uh this is courtesy of one of our loyal uh viewers Bruce Maro but he writes in the chat the Warriors are not that small Bruce they're literally by statistical definition in terms of average height the smallest team in the NBA they didn't get that much I mean I know Quint post gives you some size but DeAnthony Melton also lowers that average Landy Waters the third uh is 6566 so chances are they're still the smallest team in the NBA I just want I just want to clarify that like like that's not true anyways continue on sorry to sorry no hey please please no disrespect but um I I I appreciate a good fact Jack uh so yeah I mean maybe Luke Luke Canard um uh Mo Wagner I don't I think he I don't think he I think Orlando he he was on a team option I think and they they elected not to bring him back so he's out there I know he's played for the Lakers before but um you know just when you're looking for just guys who can have impact and and spell ad and just not be a total you know zero on the offensive end I know mo can he's not a you don't think of him as a dominant score um when when you talk about offensive rebounds and he can spot up um those are really the the the two guys other than D rozen I think now um who I think the the front office is probably going to turn their attention to um it doesn't seem like he'll be back in Chicago based on the moves that that they're making and rumored to be looking at um so now it's you know how much money is he gonna want at this stage of his career and how important is coming home considering um apparently there the rumor is that there was a there was pretty much a done deal uh in the works the year they brought Westbrook in um and it it just didn't happen for whatever reason I guess Bron and 81 at Westbrook so uh I had an opportunity once seemed like we were on the one yard line Maybe we can actually get it over um into the end zone this time but um yeah we'll uh we'll see I am um you know it's slim Pickins right now it really is um it it is you're absolutely right uh degenerate unor daddy in the chat asking if there's any truth to um what has been speculation from what I've seen which is a trade that involves Andrew Wiggins to Milwaukee for Bobby poris that would be a dream trade um but again I've only heard that as a rumor um I don't I don't see how Milwaukee says yes to that I mean if you're Milwaukee I don't know if you get better uh with a with a trade like that um I also want to correct myself because someone keeps criticizing me and rightfully so I get apparently I keep calling a Lindy Waters Landy Waters if I'm doing that that's my bad um he's new just let me get used to the name I apologize Lindy Waters uh so so apologies again for for messing up the name um but there's another thing here in the chat which and the chat's awesome man it inspires a lot of stuff thank you um Dr j3 she wrote is it true that the Clippers didn't want George to go to the Warriors and I think the reason why she's asking this is because there's this narrative and I brought this up with Damon earlier uh that teams don't want to make deals with the Warriors because they're envious of their success I've never heard of such a thing in my life man like I I don't I don't remember teams never wanting to make moves with a Patriots because they've been winning so for so many years I've never heard of a team not wanting to make a deal with the the Lakers of because they're a successful franchise when the warriors were a dynasty actually winning all the time they were still pulling off trades I think that's a BS narrative all these GMS know each other they're friendly with each other uh the owners are not looking at the name of the team and saying do not trade with them we're we're jealous that doesn't happen uh or for the most part I'm sure there's exceptions but um I bring this up because there is this there and it's a narrative man it is not rooted in reality which is that the Clippers shut down the Paul George trade because they didn't want to help the Warriors No the reality of it is and I I apparently Marcus Thompson of the athletic was was echoing something similar on some radio show today and and I gotta poo poo that man like the reality is the Clippers said no to that deal because they did not want to bring money in they let Paul George go because they're trying to like the Warriors cut spending if you're not legitimately going to win a championship there's zero point to getting into those first and second aprons so the Clippers in all these trade proposals for Paul George were going to have to bring money back in Andrew wiggin's contract uh has I think three more years left on it um no matter who it is it would have been there would have been money coming in and that's ultimately why they said no they didn't want to to to to continue to the to going to these second and aprons and first aprons and and paying all these luxury tax penalties so that is the reason why it is not because teams look at the Warriors and go I don't want to deal with them like that's that's not happening man all these owners and GMS know each other they're calling each other all the time they're friendly with each other trades AKA business is not being affected because one team is being more successful than others anything you want to add to that Rush no I I'll just say that a lot of what I've been reading didn't call that out like specifically but it did sort of imply that um the Clippers were presented with you know these you know can't say no packages um and they just simply didn't because they they for some reason didn't want to so yeah I definitely got that being implied in a lot of the the reporting that I read and of course a lot of the chatter or narrative as you call it on uh online but it it it didn't make sense and I think just the reality that I think a lot of fans are going to have to like sort of wrap their minds around myself included uh is when you don't have a team that you can consider a Bonafide Contender um more than likely front offices are going to look at at cutting spending um yes exactly it just seems like everybody is is like okay really assessing can we be one of you know the top you know four teams uh in our in our conference and if not you know we have to start looking at two three four years down the line um and I think that's hard for a lot of fans to to accept because we're Fanatics at heart which is you know why we care about the sport um and and sometimes it's easier to care about the immediate than the long term but um I think it's just a new reality that we're gonna have to to to get okay with and but another side of that is you get these Nar these narratives are sort of concocted that you know this team doesn't want to trade with that team although I'll admit there was a time where I bought into the Laker tax because it just seemed like no one wanted to no wanted to trade with us and even now it's like oh what happened to the The Prestige of the the Lakers brand it's just seems like it's just gone like we have I'm begging people Braun's having to you know say he's not gonna take as much money to try to just entice people to come well I don't think I think it's more of a salary cap thing in that case right it's not necessarily like a well he was willing to well yeah so he he was he was making as I've read it he was making the gesture hey I'm gonna opt out and I'm not gonna ask for this the max contract you know if we can bring one of these these people in um and then of course it was reported like right at six o'clock last night he he was on the phone with Clay um so I'm being a little dramatic of course so for forgive me but uh yeah it's uh no LeBron's definitely going to be about his money if it seems like the Lakers can't um can't get anybody which unless they can get D rozan it looks like that's that's going to be the case but um yeah no I I agree uh these narratives can get kind of wacky especially yeah and that's so much of what this is It's just narrative just stories and and it's crazy how often these things just pick up and and turn into reality when it's absolutely not true uh burn potato in the chat and there's been a few people in the chat uh ripping on Draymond Green today and this leads into a question I'm gonna ask you rush as a Laker fan you have an outside perspective on this uh burn potato writes that the Warriors can't even sign another star because of Draymond that's the insinuation um do you rush as an outsider when it comes to the Warriors what is your feeling on Draymond like is he as toxic as folks like burned potato say he is um do you think that's another narrative I mean what what are your thoughts on Draymond because he is a polarizing player I just wanted first of all that has a fantastic uh handle I just and the the the profile picture to go with it it's fabulous so uh Kudos um as an outsider uh you know I have a I have a supreme appreciation for for the uh basketball talent and uh and basketball mind that Draymond is and has uh a lot of you know people who sort of uh look at the game on a surface level would say oh well you know he doesn't score a lot of points and and blah blah blah but if you if you really watch possessions even now I mean especially defensive possessions Draymond impacts the game just at a level that very few do um that being said you know there's and you can fact check me please if I'm wrong on any of this uh just recalling reporting that that I saw when it happened uh you know obviously confronted Kevin Durant when he didn't uh you know wouldn't tell the team what he was going to do you know whether he was gonna opt out or or whatever um that was seen as him sort of running KD off we obviously have the the Jordan pool situation that you know we've dissected at nauseum but I mean happened so you know do stars want to play with I mean is any does anyone want to play with Draymond I mean I would think so because he's a winner right I mean he's won exact and he and he uh and he's a great player like he's not he's not a great offensive player but if you look at the totality of everything that Draymond Green does and has done in his career um he's I mean he's a great basketball player and you know that that's inspiring um and it could also it can also wear off especially when you're talking about young players players trying to find their own so um I'm hedging a little bit but I I don't I don't think that it would be an issue um because I think Draymond is is one of those guys when you get in when you get in the what do they call it the Foxhole or the trenches with them uh you'll see that that he has your back U and he has the team's best interest at heart um totally does he get a little fiery and does that get best of them sometimes as we've seen yes but you know I I would think that um it's it's not as much as all the other stuff that doesn't get covered all the good stuff that he does that doesn't get covered um I'm tot yeah absolutely I and you know the one name that keeps being thrown out there in terms of a lot of Warriors fans wanting him there is some speculation even Brian wior alluded to it either yesterday or today uh and that's Lori marinin in terms of the Warriors interest in him now look the price tag and if you followed basketball for as long as myself and probably Rush has you know Danny a um is he's a Savvy negotiator he will not just give players up for nothing uh you know when he makes a trade he's he might give you a lot but he's asking for a lot in the process and Lori marinan will not be cheap um I'm not hearing Lori markkanen's name with the Lakers at all uh which begs the question of why is it just a situation where you don't think it's just not a possibility the assets and the math doesn't add up or maybe there's something else there but Rush what are your thoughts on Lor marinin man and and and as an outsider this is where I I love your perspective would you trade Jonathan kaminga for Lori Markin in your thoughts Wow wellow way it toss me a grenade sigh um I um well I'll answer the the the first question first okay that'll give me time to collect my thoughts how I want to attack the second one um you don't have to answer anything I mean no no I'm just I'm just I'm just kidding um no I think uh well one Lor is a talent obviously at six 10 11 or whatever he is uh can yeah seven feet can can can shoot from distance in between and and Scott little postgame too so I I love what he's done in Utah I think I don't know if I mean obviously a lot of people who have followed his career a lot of people were talking like a lot of people thought he was going to be a bust when the Bulls drafted him um and and he played well for them uh but he's just flourished in Utah given you know will hardy system and just really the opportunity so I would love Lori and there's not a there's not a price you could give me where I would I would I would say absolutely not except for obviously LeBron and and ad um because I think Lor's that that that special um and you pair him with LeBron and AD that fit might be might have to figure that out it might take some time to to figure it out with all with those three playing together but I think if you can if you can get them um and it's anyone outside of Ron and AD you you do what it takes um so why are the Lakers not going after him like like why do we never see the Lakers in any speculative reports uh tied to Lori marinan hopefully because everybody's keeping their mouth shut um and they actually are so you do want them then okay so you do like them for some reason the Lakers okay yeah I mean I mean this could just be one of those deals where you know both sides are talking but it just hasn't you know W and chams either haven't reported it or haven't you know been caught in Wind of it yet U so hopefully they are um if not you know that's that's just another reason for me to scratch my head at at Rob pinka but um I think I think Lori immediately raises um A team's Outlook uh if he if they're able to get him um oh go ahead sorry yeah no no go go ahead I was gonna ask um someone brought up in the chat earlier and I can't find it right now I apologize but uh someone was asking about Andrew Wiggins and why it is that he has no value um or he very minimal value I don't want to say zero but he's he doesn't have a lot of value if he did you would you know Mike dunby JR's phone would be ringing off the hook with with trade proposals and maybe it is in theory I don't I don't have a microphone in there I'm not recording them secretly but uh I also feel like we'd be hearing more things more stories pertaining to Wiggins um look I mean on the surface it's it's fairly obvious like he's he's an inconsistent shooter the The Unexplained absences and I have an idea why but last time I I I touched that subject it caused a lot of problems so I just I'm letting you go but nonetheless the absences um you know the inconsistencies I mean there's a lot of there's a lot going on with Andrew Wiggins he's played in the NBA for 10 years you can make the argument nine of those tens he underachieved um right from your perspective why is Andrew Wiggins not valued as high as maybe he should or maybe he shouldn't I don't know your thoughts on wigets I think it's I don't think it's that difficult I think it's everything you just said honestly um it's just and I'm not saying that to get out of answering the question I I really just don't feel like there's really I think you nailed it um because me on the outside looking in I mean that's that's what I see um there's there's inconsistencies in terms of him being available um I don't know what those personal reasons are I'm I'm not as close to team obviously as you are so I won't I won't speculate um but I just know he wasn't available for for significant stretches um there are times where he's just not engaged and that's just been Andrew Wiggins as long as we've known him loves to say Wiggins is Mercurial I always love when when he brings that up that's a good one um yeah so I I think that that may be why um you just at this point with the contract he has you know how much more are you gon to get how much better does Andrew Wiggins get from this point right um and that paired with his contract I mean that's that's more questions than answers so I I think that maybe why a lot of teams don't are a little hesitant to uh to pull the trigger on a deal that that brings him back absolutely man um dude I I I I do feel like the Warriors and Lakers fan bases have a right to be disappointed so far um again the Lakers their biggest news item so far this summer and this offseason bronny James a second round pick uh yeah you know I mean and resigning players I honestly was a little surprised that um that 2.5 million was enough to keep cam reddish Jackson Hayes made a little more sense but I thought I thought cam had some value I'm a little surprised he he he opted into that that's not a lot of money it's um apparently the Market's that small or maybe he likes La that much I don't know but our fan bases are both very disappointed right now um and we'll see what happens man it is still very early in the off season but these players are getting uh you know swallowed up by the second I feel like every time I I I I look for an update for wos or for Shams just another player got signed Garrett Temple has agreed to a one-year deal to return to the Raptors that's another player that's off off the board like uh what what are you what are you hoping for what would be your like ideal dream scenario uh and maybe we could steal your idea for the Warriors as well but as a Laker fan like like is there anything left that you're hoping for um this I I would say this assuming there's no like other deal or opportunity that that just hasn't been reported on right so I'm assuming that our only option is what's on the free agent Market um I've had to sort of come to terms these these last few hours and and since last night but I really think um Demar de rozan would would sort of Salvage the summer for us um I I just think he's a certified bucket he's a bucket getter he's been doing it as long as he's been in the league really um maybe JJ can get him to shoot threes uh I don't think it's a matter of him not being able to make them although he probably is g to be a slightly below you know the league average for for a wing um but I think just getting him to take them um then defenses are going to have to respect that and then that sort of opens other things up but um yeah I would I would think D rozan even at this age I think he can he can sort of Salvage the summer for us at this point love him so that would yeah and and he's just he's you talk about grit I mean his picture is right there in the dictionary I mean he's just he's he's just gonna go at you um and he can just fill it up in a number of ways AB um so such a creative score um but yeah that's that's where I'm at at this point like I said that's assuming that there's no other deal that's in the works that just hasn't been reported on I I think ultimately DLo probably gets moved where I have no idea um I know what came out out when uh the news announced or that it was announced that he was opting in um that he you know wants to return to LA and play for JJ reick but uh I think he's probably gonna get moved because he's the mo his you could make the argument that his salary he's his salary is below um his his talent level so he's he's at a bit of a bargain so maybe you put him with one or two other pieces and maybe one of those draft picks and you can get you know somebody but other than that I think gets to roosen or or bus unfortunately it is it is crazy what it's come down to here but here we are uh I you know somebody in the chat I won't even mention your name Douglas mikees because you're actually writing in here that Wiggins is gonna have an All-Star season give me some of what you're smoking please um sign me up for that all right I think we've exhausted everything again just uh one more reminder uh because someone asked in the chat uh we still don't know if what if anything the Warriors are getting in the Klay Thompson uh sign and trade it looks like it's going to be a trade exemption um and if they don't use it it's just a complete waste so I do hope they use it Rush did we forget anything did we cover all the bases today uh your final thoughts sir and really stoked you came on today man I hope you had a good time no I I've I've loved it uh thanks for trusting me with your your platform your your audience um you're the mayor dude you're the mayor of NBA threads of course yeah this this this has been an awesome experience and if if I may um please this is 2024 so you can't take for granted that people won't take you literally these days so Justus in case that's that's what's going on no I'm not actually a mayor um you notice I don't have I'm not in a suit I'm not in a suit or or a Tai it's a it's a nickname that was uh given to me um I guess by the community on on threads early on last Instagram's like CEO or somebody like kind of show you some love too or it was somebody some big time people were hyping you up right uh yeah I um I've uh I got to meet with with Adam uh Maser in in Vegas at the inseason tournament so uh yeah I've been I've been shouted out a couple of times which is which is amazing um just kind of mind blown like I never would have thought something like that would happen but uh yeah it was it was just the name given to me by the NBA threads community and um it just it just kind of stuck I kind of fought it for a while but you know it it it just stuck and I figure it's it's a it's uh admiration so look you could you could have Joe nunam moker nickname they call him the golden jizz so I I'm gonna go with the mayor I think the mayor is a good one man let's just stick all over that oh my god look Joe breaking news we've got a fan of the show who just all over his hamster the hamster is now stuck to his computer desk and they're doing anal acrobatics all right we're going to stop entertaining that that was fun now they're getting a little little too but anyways yeah sorry about that that was being immature there uh but Rush no you're killing look look competition is healthy for business and the fact that NB like NBA Twitter has a competition now on NBA threads and and Dave Rush here Dave rushing is the mayor of that by by title only not officially but I'm gonna call you the mayor forever and ever so Bravo man um I think we're are we done are we good I guess that's it we'll be back back at this if anything happens I pray that the Warriors just put a kibos on this ridiculous hobit ball mentality and and philosophy because it is not going to translate to success I genuinely feel sorry for Stephen Curry man like Steph needs help in this in the sense of size physicality scoring you get none of that with DeAnthony Melton yet that's who the Warriors just spent $13 million on waited all off season for that big the mid-level exception and we get the Anthony Melton God damn it um yeah that's where we are so let's really hope for a trade right all right Joe nunmaker I don't want to ban you but let let's put it let's put a stop on the on the on the we get it we get it you love to jizz okay we get it um I just want I don't like to block people but I you know I I don't want I don't want like the the chat being spammed like that either um all right I'll put you in a Timeout it doesn't ban you we'll just put you in a Timeout I think we're good is there any final thoughts anything you want to promote or are we done um I'm not the best at promotion but you know if if anyone has uh you know not made the jump to threads or at least tried it out I would I would highly highly recommend you to do so it's a really fun uh community and um you know it's probably the I guess you could call it the anti- Twitter uh so it's it's really all about engagement and and community and um we really take it really seriously so um if you're looking for a place a different place to to talk hoops and really have some fun online um I would say just make the jump to threads and you can find me there um yo Rush other than that man I just again just really grateful and appreciate being able to come on and share the space with you and Bruce Maro yeah of course man I appreciate you coming on we'll get you back Bruce Maro saying thread starting to get weird though what isn't weird there there's that's per that's inevitable yeah East Coast spice writing that uh the Celtics Juan playing small ball I'm sorry I didn't I didn't know Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum were 63 uh I guess forgot that the the Celtics went out there and got themselves a 73 Center uh what are you talking about man there is no s like 63 and and you're gonna hype that up you're gonna support that get out of here dude come on man bring some intelligence to the game not ignorance all right thank you rush that was fun um and thank you to everyone have a great day we'll back at this very soon follow Rush on threads at y Rush otherwise bye-bye [Music] bye-bye that was awesome man thank you brother