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Hi, Homeworthy. Alex Papakristides here on this rainy day in New York City. Going to see my wonderful friend, Anne Wolfe, in her beautiful apartment on Park Avenue. So, come on. Let's get in. It's a little chilly outside. Let's go inside. Come on. Hello. How are you? I'm here to see Anne Wolfe. Yes. Great. Thank you. Alex. Hi. Where is Cooper? He's at the hairdresser. Oh, of course. He has to be beautiful and clean and fresh for tomorrow. Of course. Come on in. How are you, darling? I'm very well. Thank you. So nice to be here. You're watching Homeworthy, where we believe every home has a story. Hi. I'm Alex Papakristides. And I'm sitting here in the divine living room of my beautiful friend, Anne Wolfe. This is Anne Wolfe. And she's a New Yorker, but now lives in Houston and is a decorator on her own right and a very talented and successful decorator. Thank you, Alex. And, Annie, so tell us about this beautiful apartment. Well, I used to live in New York when I was single. And when I married my husband, which was 30, almost 35 years ago, we moved to Texas. And we raised our three children in Houston. And, but still very much, very much feel like a New Yorker and have come to New York. Don't you think once you're a New Yorker, you're always a New Yorker, kind of. And we also have it so much in our blood. Yeah, it's in my blood. I was raised here. I was raised in Manhattan. And so my husband and I always stayed with his parents. They had a beautiful, beautiful apartment. Oh, I loved your mother-in-law. She was amazing. And they had great taste. And they had a big apartment that they raised their three kids in. So I used to come here with my three kids. And it was easy to come to, to bring them to their grandparents' house was ideal. But I always really kind of wanted my own place. And it took many, many, many years to find it, to convince my husband, and then to find the apartment, and then to renovate the apartment. You know, it's a long process. Well, it looks beautiful as always. Thank you. Such a pretty job you did. You're so talented, my beautiful friend. Oh my God, look at these floors. I love them so much. So these floors were, these are decoratively painted to look like ivory. Such a genius idea. Matthew had the idea, my husband. Such a genius idea. He wanted piano keys. I'm like, you want, yeah, that's really going to happen, darling. Ivory insets. But sometimes a goofy idea turns into something so chic. Exactly. Well, it's just beautiful because it really does. And these are your people from Houston, right? Yes. Well, again, which is, well, you wouldn't have that if you didn't live in Houston, right? Yes. So there are good sources everywhere. There are blessings, yes. So beautiful. It's so chic in the pattern, and I love the way. Thank you. And I love the entrance hall and how you put the Greek key onto the mirror over there. The entrance hall, it actually had a little, in the original apartment, had like a little niche here. And we turned this into a cabinet for gloves and hats and scarves. Great, great. Because we love, and you and I both love a jib door. Yeah, we love a jib door. Which is great. They disappear like that. And we put antique mirror on the door and then a Greek key pattern above. And it really feels like a little entry vestibule. Well, and also, I think the thing that's so beautiful about the mirror is it brings the light in. You know, I'm such an antique mirror person myself. And it's so Parisian and divine. And it opens up the space. And it creates dimension. And it just looks so beautiful. You know, when you have these small spaces. Everything is a consideration. Right. And also these New York apartments where you need the storage and you need it to be practical. It's like a ship. Looks so beautiful. And this is so beautiful. I love the commode. The commode actually is, it's French. Beautiful. It's French, but it's made out of mahogany, which you don't often see with French furniture. Because that's more of an English furniture thing. Yeah. Beautiful. And she's wonderful. This reminds me of something maybe that your in-laws, that they would have, right? It was in their collection. And it's a Nadelman, Eli Nadelman. Did you buy this back from auction? Yes. It's just beautiful. We have two. We have one in the bedroom as well. And tell me a little bit about the artist. Nadelman, he's an American artist. I think early 20th century. He did a lot of sculpture. Just beautiful. He did a lot of figures, human figures and busts. Beautiful. So 1920s, 1930s? I think so. Yeah. I mean, it has that feeling. And I love the mix of something sort of more from the 20th century mixed with something from the 18th century. And our favorite, Chris Fitzmiller. Of course. Chris Fitzmiller lamp. And I love the boutique lampshade. Custom lampshade. We love a custom lampshade. Indian fabric. It's beautiful. And this is actually a Warhol. And he did this many, many years before Damien Hirst did his dot paintings. I'm sure. Damien Hirst was probably inspired. So everybody is influenced. Of course. We're all influenced by each other constantly and from history and the past. So pretty. And I love the sort of Brutalist sconces in here. You know, they kind of give it a little gravity and masculinity. I love that. So, Annie, I love the way you've sort of mixed antiques and contemporary art. So tell us, obviously, this was the Warhol, which we love. And we know that that's what you guys collect. But I also love this. This is Ellsworth Kelly. And it's a lithograph. Beautiful. And yeah, and it's just joyful. Like I sit in bed and I can see it all the time. The color is so pretty. Yeah, it's wonderful. And it's also this big sort of bold image. So it kind of opens up the space in such a nice way. Exactly. You know, I think we always talk in the office about how important it is to use proportion and scale and to create in sort of small spaces with big gestures. And this is such a wonderful gesture. Right. Because it's clean and big in this sort of, you know, hallway that's petite and full of so many beautiful things and detail. Right. And I love the way that plays off of it. What about the painting behind you? The painting behind is a painting by an artist named Matt Connor. And I just think he's a great colorist. He's brilliant. Beautiful, Ann. Beautiful. And it's... It's still alive? Yeah. George has one of his things. It is. It's... He's a really good artist. I love it. It's beautiful. Should we go into the library? Absolutely. Let's go see the library. I love the library. So let's talk a little bit, Annie, about, like, what you think influenced you. Was... I think your mother was a big influence, you've always said. Yes. Isn't she? Yes. In fact, this green color of my walls I think was the green that I grew up with. My mother loved this green and we had a carpet So funny, right? in the apartment. Yeah. How we become our parents a little bit. It's really kind of crazy and hectic. And these things that, you know, our parents are so important to us. Really. And I think influences, early influences have to do so much with the houses and the apartments that I saw growing up. And my love... Living in New York. Me too. Living in New York. Going places. That was enormously, you know. Also for me, travel and my mother taking us to Europe all the time and that was such a big impact on me and I'm sure to you too. Right. And we also always talk about how important travel and we go on our trips together. Yes. And we travel and see things and how that changes our eye and opens us up to new things. And I think that's something we both have in common that we're constantly trying to see things in a new way and open our minds and evolve our taste and keep moving forward. And keep moving forward. And I think we always kind of encourage each other in that. Yes. Absolutely. You have also... Alex has taught me so much. He has really... He's been my great mentor over the years and... I mean, I was a decorator long before I met him but there were a lot of things I didn't know. I can't say that... That you so gently... I don't say that... I can't say that it feels like ever being in any of your interiors it looks like you don't know everything. So you have beautiful taste and beautiful style and I love what you do and it makes me so proud that if I've even had that much influence, I love you so much and I'm so happy that you're so successful on your own right. You do such beautiful work. Thank you, darling. Really, always. And I always love to see things in magazines and when you show me projects you do and you just... You have such great taste. So stylish and cozy and divine. Such a pretty room. So beautiful. Thank you. So beautiful. So the library... Our concept for the library was a wood-paneled room. Which I love. But light still, Annie. Light. And Matthew was very inspired. My husband is Matthew and he was very inspired by Jean-Michel Franck. There is a room in one of his books that is all cerused oak and there's a guy upstate who does this beautiful cerusing and it's more of a modernist gesture. The paneling is less traditional. It's a little more contemporary. Which I love. Not modern, but it's pared down. No, no, no. It definitely feels contemporary but still classic. But that's who really... But that's who Franck was. He was... His things were modern but timeless and I love this. This feels very timeless and I love the way you've done all the little pull-outs to put the paintings and here we are back with another wall which I love and all the books and I think it's really about photography here, right? Right, right. Most of your library... I remember you collect photography books. I remember that. I don't collect photography prints but my brother... my late brother-in-law was a photo dealer. His name was Daniel Wolfe and I've always loved photography and I've always gone to the Met and every time there's a great show and so I was very familiar with a lot of artists and I decided to do like an A to Z photography library and it's been so much fun. I've been collecting for years now and I will buy contemporary photographers but also photojournalists. I will buy 19th century. It really starts with 19th century to 21st century. The thing that's interesting about photography is it also gives you a strong sense of history. History. Which I'm sure that's probably why you're also attracted to it. Absolutely. Because it's... and that's... I'm not a photography collector but I actually like photography too but I also... I like books that are relevant to the time periods that I'm interested in because you get an entree into times that we can't see anymore. Exactly. And I think that's so interesting. And they're stories. Yes. All of them. And so much... You're right. So much history. Well, maybe we were children in the 60s or the 70s and we were young but it's so interesting to see photography at the time and who were the people. Right. What were the interiors like and what was all that. Exactly. So pretty. You did this, right? I did that. So pretty. I did that. That's my nod to holiday flowers. But it's gorgeous. What are these? Orchids? What are they? This is clematis. There's a tiny bit of lilac in here. But the vase sort of helps. And then eucalyptus. The vase is gorgeous. The vase is beautiful. I bought this in the Paris flea market. And my husband broke it and you gave me that divine person to fix it. And Chen fixed it for you. He fixed it. And it was totally broken. No. And he can make it so that it works. It holds water. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of the... Because you think something's broken in ceramic and you can never use it again and he can make that happen. It cost me as much as it cost to buy the vase. No, but, you know, can I tell you something? And I also have a pair of huge vases that I use all the time that I bought at the Paris flea market. And, like, don't you love that memory of, like, flipping that vase back for Paris? We've had so many good times. We need to go back. It's never enough. He used to say to me, Darling, take your hand away from your heart and buy it. Well, because, so, so, so, Anne used to be a little bit on the, I don't want to say cheap, but maybe a little frugal side to herself. And I said, Anne, you live once. Surround yourself with beautiful things. Enjoy yourself. I listen to you. Right? I listen to you. Thank God. And look at how beautiful everything is. And look at how you enjoy it. Yeah. And I love this chocolate brown. So, and, Anne, horse hair? This is a horse hair. Wow. That was a big moment, right? A whole horse hair. A whole horse hair bench. Beautiful. But wears, like, iron and will outlive us all. Yeah, so far, it's totally held up. Outlive us all. And this was in Houston. This was in Houston. And we moved it to New York because we needed a big painting and a good painting. And it looks gorgeous. And we shuffled things around a little bit in Houston. Right. And it's by Charles Sheeler, who is an American painter, 20th century. And it's of the Pabst Brewery. It's beautiful. So it's that kind of industrialism again. 1930s, 1920s. Beautiful. Oh, my God. What's this? Well, as you know, I love to needlepoint. And I live to needlepoint. How about... Do you remember what you made me for my birthday one year? Yes, needlepoint slippers. Oh, my God. So I did a show house room for House and Gardens with this beautifully Jaffa fabric that they had printed for me in chocolate brown and blue and white. Right. And that year for my birthday, Ann Wolf makes for me a pair of needlepointed slippers, each different, with the print from the show house room on them. I still savor those slippers. I love them so much. I wear them, you know, very specific times. And I'm so careful. And they're like right front. They're not in the back of the closet. Every time I walk through my closet, I see them sitting there. Even if you don't wear them, just to see them in your closet is important. Let me tell you something. My favorite thing is at home because I'm scared to wear them out. God forbid, they should get rained on or destroyed. So I wear them at home in the summer with a pair of white pants and a lacrosse. And they just make everything just so chic. Very chic. At home for dinner, I love to wear them. And they're so comfortable. They're so beautiful. But I save them. They have shoe trees in them. They're so well taken care of. The bottoms are washed every time I wear them. They're brushed off. I love them so much. I mean, who does that? I mean, who needlepoints a pair of slippers for their friend? Ann Wolf does. She's that kind of girl. Well,and this is gorgeous. Thank you. Really. How long does something like this take? Not that long, actually, because I have this wonderful woman who paints the canvas for me. So I sent her this fabric. And I said, I want to needlepoint that pattern. And... Brunswick, right? Is it Brunswick? Yeah. It depends on the gauge. You know, with needlepoint, there's pettipoint, which I think I'm totally too old to do now with my vision. You have to have... So a bigger gauge takes a lot less time. But I do it on airplanes. How long does this take? Probably a total of like 30 hours. Yeah. That amount of time. Yeah. It's beautiful. And I love... It makes the room. It's like something you made with your own hands. I love that. Love the lampshades and the print. So pretty. And the carpet's beautiful. Silk? It's a silk carpet. Beautiful. Nothing feels as divine under bare feet as a silk carpet. It's one of those things where you have to like a silk carpet because the minute you step on it, you see the footsteps. I love that. But it's like silk velvet. To me, the more it wears, the chicer it is. You know, Cooper sleeps on a silk velvet bed and he digs on it and marks it. Of course he does. But I love that about it. I love that it's... And I love this fabric. That also chic. So this was... I made this desk based on a Jean-Michel Franck picture that I found. And it's made out of bronze and leather. So pretty. And who made it for you? My workroom in Houston. Really? So pretty. It looks great. Really lovely. Lovely, lovely, lovely. I love the whole room. We use this room all the time when we're here because it's just the coziest space. And my husband sits at the desks and takes calls and works. And whenever we have somebody over for a drink, we sit in here when it's just one or two people. And we watch TV in here sometimes. Sometimes I just sit and look through my photography books. And yeah, this room is very used. A corner room is always ideal, I think, you know, you get great light. Well, that's what's so nice, right? The light's not so good today, but usually there's pretty light in here. Yeah, it's so nice to have double exposure always. Yes. So what's that little painting up there? I think it's so beautiful. That is actually nobody famous. But it's beautiful. If you're watching, the artist, I'm sorry, I don't remember your name. But it's beautiful. And I love to go to art fairs for up-and-coming, emerging artists. And I never care. I don't care. I buy what I love. I don't care if it's $300 or whatever it is. I love that. I feel the same way. I never care. But because we don't buy to resell. No. We buy because we love it. Because it moves you. And it also fits into our collection and what we want. And I love that kind of abstract use of color. It's just so nice. It's wonderful. And what's Fragile? And Fragile is a little Andy Warhol painting that Matthew just bought himself. And Matthew started buying some little shelf-sized paintings for the library. I love the Andy Warhol. So recently he bought that one. I love the little Andy Warhol. And this one is Charles. This one is Charles Sheeler who's a very well-known American artist. That's beautiful too. Isn't that so sweet? And then there's another one down there and that's an early. This is a late Charles Sheeler. He did this at the end of his life in 59. Are you familiar with Pettibone? Yes. I think you should buy Matthew a little Pettibone for the bookcase. That would be a great gift for him. Yeah. Maybe he would love that. They're beautiful. You know, Stafford got me onto Pettibone and I have a beautiful Pettibone. A big one? A big one where they're unusual. But Stafford has a ton of little ones and they're so beautiful. How nice. Matthew would love them and Pettibone does Warhol and Picasso. So Pettibone's always doing other artists. They're beautiful. It would be a great thing in your collection. I think it would look. I think Matthew would love it. It's a great little surprise gift for him. OK. But the room looks beautiful. Let's go into the living room. OK. Let's go into the living room. I love your living room so much. It's so pretty. I didn't care so much about being on Park Avenue. I just wanted to be on the Upper East Side and I had a very patient real estate agent who showed me like, I don't know, 50 apartments and it was interesting because when I started, my kids were more at coming home for holidays and by the time we bought the apartment, they were all adults and off on their own. So we were actually looking for a much smaller apartment than we thought we needed initially, which was a good thing that we waited. But this is kind of the perfect size apartment. it's one bedroom. One guest bedroom. Which is really nice because if Ashley comes with you or,you know, if Mia's here or if you have a friend in town, it's nice to have that. My daughter and her husband lived here during the pandemic for,oh God, I don't know, a long time. But it's nice. So it's nice to have that. It's nice to have that extra room. But Park Avenue is great. I mean, it's one of the iconic streets in New York and I grew up on 86th Street and East End. I probably would, I looked at most, I liked pre-war. So I looked at a lot of pre-war buildings. My husband always jokes that there's not one molecule left of the original apartment and it's kind of true. We were going to leave a toilet at one point and then why? You know, you get to the point where you're like, why am I keeping this toilet? But we had to replace the windows because a lot of these apartment buildings require when you buy them that you replace the windows. But also look how quiet it is in here. Yes. It's so nice. I mean, you really hear nothing. And I also think, you know, I always say, get the dirty work done once so that you can live and enjoy the apartment because really the backdrop, and I know you agree with me, the backdrop is so important. I mean, you can't live in an unfinished apartment and decorate it. It's like putting on makeup on a dirty face or something. And it never looks, it just won't look good. The backdrop is as important as anything. And you did a full scale of renovation of this apartment and it shows. And I think that's why the decorating looks so beautiful. Yes, because the proportions are great. We hired Ferguson and Tamemi and Mark Ferguson worked with us on it. And he's... And they're great architects. I've worked with them too and they're wonderful and so talented. And it just looks... I mean, it looks like it's always been this way and that this is the way it should have been. It doesn't look, you know, like this contemporary apartment. But I feel like it looks perfect for what everything you did is so beautiful. I mean, you know, just look at the strapping and the upholstery and how it works. And it just looks pristine and fresh and great. You know? Yeah. It's just so happy and fresh in here and just so lovely. And I also, I love the way you go from sort of the cozy intimacy of that room to this room, which is just so fresh and cheery and lovely. Yeah, cheerful. I wanted it to be bright. I really think color affects mood so much, for me in particular. Me too. So I want, I want cheerful, happy colors. I'm not like a dull down person. But really I was saying to you before the room started with this collection of pottery that I found, not all of it, but it was the beginning of a collection. So beautiful. And it's made by Gustavsberg. Gustavsberg. So is it Danish or Swedish? Yes. And his name is Josef Ekberg. See? Gustavsberg. And everything is dated. This one's 1923. I mean they're gorgeous. Which is wonderful, right? So that was the beginning of the room. Gorgeous. And how did you find them? Well, I found them from a really good dealer downtown. Like maybe six or seven of them I bought at one time and then the rest at auction and eBay. They're just, I mean, At auction and eBay. They're so beautiful. And to me they're also so you. Yeah. Do you know there's something sort of dainty and sophisticated about them just like you. I just love them. Thank you. And I love the way they look on the green walls. Yes. You know, I love the blue and green combination and it's so pretty. Really, really, I love them. So now you have quite a good collection because both bookcases are full, right? Yes, yes. And the scale of them and the flowers on them. Yeah. I love them. They really are a joyful collection. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. And again, our favorite Crispus Miller lamps. Yes, always, always. And I love this little, this is a little 19th century chair, right? Well, this is, no, this is a mid-century Danish chair. Oh, is it? Right. It's Malmsten and usually you see these chairs with the legs exposed and they're blonde. It's blonde wood because it's a mid-century chair. But I decided to turn it, they give it a little English. So I did the gathering at the corner. I like, what I like about this so much is I call these big little chairs. Like I'm very comfortable sitting in a chair like this as a man. You know, it's totally perfect for me. But it's not as heavy, big scale upholstery in this little room. I had to be careful with the scale of the upholstery. I have the same thing. But to me, the thing that's so important and I always try to explain this to clients and things that small scale furniture in small rooms makes them feel grand. And our ceilings are not that tall. This room feels very grand even though it's petite. It's full. There's plenty of places to sit. It's very usable. There's wonderful little pull-up furniture. You know, it's very cozy and inviting. But it's, it doesn't feel overstuffed. And you know where I got this idea? I was brazenly copied Alex when I walked into his show house for the veranda. It was on the cover of Veranda. But he had, it was Kips Bay. I had the bigger. And you had them bigger. In this fabric. In this fabric, which I think is so beautiful. Of course discontinued. You know, as they like. Everybody loves to discontinue. This fabric's so chic. And George bought them. George has them now? He bought them from the show house. Did we make them for him? No, I think he bought them and kept them and took the ones from Kips Bay and has them in his bedroom. Well, you know what they say? They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Anyway, so I just had to do that. But I love the way you scaled them down for me. They had to be a little smaller. They're beautiful. They're beautiful, Max Keuny cuffs from Liz. No, I didn't buy that one from Liz, but Liz has gorgeous. Liz O'Brien has the most beautiful of Liz O'Brien. We love Liz O'Brien. She's a dear friend. This box is from Liz O'Brien. Yes, I have one of those too from Liz. Absolutely. But Max Keuny does. And I think that coffee table with this collection and sort of the way you've used, because you love flowers and nature, right? Yes. And me too. You know, I love it too. I just, I love porcelain flowers and I love all the, we both like all that stuff. Yes, we do. But I love the way that coffee table sort of plays off of that whole wonderful floral moment in the vases and then a little bit in the pillows, but then that's it for the flowers in the room. There's no other flowers. And it's more about sort of solids and geometry. Right. Love the carpet. Is the carpet from our friends? Who made the carpet? This is a Beauvais carpet. our favorite. We love Beauvais. And I love the steel table from Louis, right? Yes. Yes, Louis Bofferting. Louis is a great dealer. He's on Lexington Avenue. I love the steel table from Louis Bofferting, right? And it's a garden table. So chic. Well, it's a little reminiscent of John Dickinson. Yes. Right? Which we both love. And that's kind of wonderful. And again, that softness, the organicness, the wood Georgian table, the steel table, it makes the room modern and fresh and stylish and cozy. But I just love that little bit of metal. And of course, again, also, the collection of vases is in the wonderful Cole Porter bookcases. The Cole Porter bookcases. Absolutely. And I had my decorative painter from Houston paint the wooden shelves to look like parchment. Beautiful. So you can see there's just a little creamy parchment cover. I love that. So pretty. And it was Billy Baldwin who originally designed these bookcases for Cole Porter and did that wonderful apartment. Exactly. Right? You know, I use these all the time in my house, and I love them. I think they're the chicest bookcases. And I love the idea of not a built-in. Yes. You know? Yes. It's freestanding and you can move it around and it's just, I love it. It keeps it open. And this beautiful screen is also from Liz, isn't it? From Liz O'Brien, yes. She has this wonderful girl who makes these things. I've used them before. I used one in L.A. I think they're beautiful. She's an artist. Yes. So pretty. I think you have to tell the story. OK. So this is... You know, Claire is coming tomorrow night. You'll see her. Oh, good. She's such a dear friend and she's so divine. Right. And she's so talented. She is so talented. You've got to tell the Claire Potter story. So Claire Potter is an artist and she does these amazing bookcases out of flowers and big, big bookcases. But so beautiful. And she paints. I mean, it's just so lifelike, right? Incredible. And she's so talented and such a genius. And there used to be a store on Madison Avenue called Mallet. Which we love. And they had a great antique dealer from London. Gone now. They had a Claire Potter show. And I went in there and took my hand away from my heart and bought one. And then it came to Houston and it was... It arrived and opened the box and it was in... It shattered in a lot of pieces. And so, you know, I just came to terms with it. And then years later, I sat next to Claire. The insurance, right? Of course. I filed a claim. I sat next to Claire at your house in Bridgehampton at a dinner and I told her the story and how heartbroken I was. And she said, I'm going to make you something. And she did. That was so sweet. She's so lovely. And so talented. If you're not familiar, look her up. Claire Potter. Enormously talented. Beautiful, beautiful flowers. Beautiful things she makes. And she also collaborates with Chris Fitzmiller sometimes. And they do these beautiful lamps. Then I actually have one in the country. One of their collaborations. Their early... The most magical thing. So imagine a Chris Fitzmiller lamp. But then it's covered with Claire Potter flowers. I mean, it's just amazing. And this, well, you know, we love these. These little Maillard tables. There's nothing like them, right? I have them everywhere. Yeah, me too. You know, they're like chocolates. I just can never have enough of them. The Maillard tables and lamps I'm obsessed with. And they're so great. You know, they're these little telescope tables. And they're so great because you can move the height up. They're made for us in Paris. And they're so chic. And, you know, these go to auction. You pay three times at auction what you buy them for in Paris. It's like the craziest thing. I know. Well, people like them. And they don't know where to get them, maybe. Love it. It looks so beautiful. And tell me about these wonderful little cabbages, Anne. These are made by a French sculptor. And they're out of bronze. And they're just little candlesticks. And a friend of mine is friendly with him. I think I met him once, actually. He came to Houston. And we visited with him. And I ordered them. And he does mostly animal sculpture. He's a big hunter. Beautiful. They're sort of very LaLanne-ish. Yeah, but they're not LaLanne. And this was my mother-in-law's teapot. Oh, I love that. And this was my father-in-law's chair that was next to his bed. And he used to put his shoes on, sit down and put his shoes on. Beautiful. And I always had my eye on that chair. It's a beautiful little pull-up chair. And I love the fabric you did. And it's American, which is not really your thing. Yeah, well, it looks Queen Anne. Yes, look at that copy. Yeah, of course, they were all inspired by that. And what is the fabric, Anne? The fabric is, I think, Clarence House. Yeah, that's right. Beautiful, beautiful cut velvet. So chic, really lovely. Thank you. And again, don't you, I love the idea that people live on in their things. Like I have things for my mother. Actually, last year, I have your mother-in-law's Schlumberger compact. Oh, you did. You got that as a present for your friends. Yes, I got your mother-in-law's Schlumberger. So it went to auction. It then went, because I collect Schlumberger. It then went to an antique dealer in the Manhattan Art and Antique Center. And a group of friends got together and bought it for me as a gift. And I think you were part of it, too. And it's because I collect Schlumberger. And it's this beautiful compact that belonged to Joy Wolfe. And I look at it all the time. And I think of your wonderful mother-in-law and how great she was. She was amazing. And I remember the first time I went to her apartment and she showed me, she had them in her living room, this little collection of Schlumberger. Did she have them in her living room? Or did she have them in her bedroom? I don't think so, Anne. I think she went and got it, brought it into the living room. And showed me, because she knew that I loved Schlumberger and showed me the compact. And it's so beautiful. I now have it in my library with a little collection of Schlumberger. Really? I'll have to take note when I go over to your apartment. When we have 80 people for dinner, it won't be there. I'm not leaving out my Schlumberger collection for that. Not that something's going to happen to it, but we will need to put a drink down. Yes, exactly. So those things need to go away. But anyway, I love that. And I love that people live on in the memories. Absolutely. Do you have anything of your mom's? Yeah. Yeah, I do. Right? A lot of things. Right? Isn't that nice? Like see it and think of your mother or your mother-in-law, your father-in-law. I don't know. It's just nice. Yeah, absolutely. It's so nice. And that's a little Hugo Rondinoni, isn't it? Yes, it is. Interesting. It is. Well, you were the one who showed... I first learned about Hugo Rondinoni, I think, from that beautiful sculpture at your sister's house. Well, this is... At the beach, right? Yeah, this is the... She has a huge version of this. And it's so beautiful. I love the way you've got it on a stand like this. I had a little stand made for it. I love it, Anne. I wanted it higher. No, and I like it. It's so... I like the way it comes up into the room and it's so airy and beautiful. It looks great. Great. And all of these are Warhol, right? Every single one. Love. Love them. And how long did it take you to put together this whole collection? Well, Matthew did it for years, probably. I don't know, like 10 years or something. Yeah, because some of them came from the foundation and then some of them came at auction. Some of them came through private dealers. So be patient is the point. You have to be patient. It's sometimes a process and it's something you do over time. And I love the little flower painting, Anne. Yeah. That's also Warhol? Yes, this is also Warhol. Oh, my God, Annie. That's divine, that little teeny Warhol. Yeah, it's kind of a recent acquisition. Oh, it's a beauty. Yeah. That's gorgeous. So, Annie, you know, I've been to... You also have a whole bunch of Warhols in Houston and how do you decide if things come to New York or they go to Houston? What is the... What's the process of that? Oh, you know, just... Matthew was... My husband really loved to buy and he was buying a lot of these and we kind of ran out of space in Houston, so... And we talked about it and knew that they would look great in New York and so we had the idea of putting together a gallery wall of the Warhols and then... But don't you have that in Houston, too? Or do you have a big wall of them in the living room? I moved... I have one left. I moved them upstairs. They're upstairs now. You have to be careful with these because their work's on paper, so... They have to be treated like babies. And we put... You know, we have... They have little covers that he made for them and we put little covers on them when we're away and we're very careful. Can't you just close the curtains? You can, but they're still exposed to light and they really shouldn't be. And this is very strong lighting. Yes, so we do both. I have this, too. This is where the sun rises and that morning light kind of pops into the window very harshly. But really, I made it my project to buy art for this apartment with a friend of mine, Evan Pepper, who's an art consultant. I know Evan. Yeah, you know Evan. I didn't know she was an art consultant. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah, so we went around and I showed her the spaces and, you know, I never want the art to match the sofa and match the décor, but... I try to tell that to clients. You do want it to complement the spaces. Of course. I mean, you don't want it to look like it came from Mars. And you want it all to look like it's having a conversation with each other. And so we found some really great things together. No, it's beautiful. You did a beautiful job. I love it. Really, really. It looks wonderful and very natural and very organic the way it all comes together. Thank you. And it makes a lot of sense. And also, it's very you and Matthew, which I love. And again, I always say to clients, it should be personal. Everything should be personal. And I think what you're so successful in is that you create interiors that don't all look alike. They're all different. But you create a collection for the client there. It might not be the same thing you collect, but...and I try to do the same so that we create interiors. It's not our house. It's their house. And we find something that they love. But in our own houses, we find the stuff that we love. And sometimes there's too much of it. I like to work with art consultants, too, because buying art is really hard. It can be overwhelming. And it's overwhelming. And you want to make sure you're buying things at the right time in the artist's career. You need to be exposed to margin artists. The prices are crazy. Sometimes the galleries want you to prove that you're worthy of the piece. Which I think is obnoxious. Which is really obnoxious. If I can buy it, whose business is it to say why? Right. Are you the right collection for it? Like, really? Okay. And that's something the art consultant can work on for you. Right. So let's keep going. Let's go...shall we go now to... Let's go to the guest room. Okay. Let's go to the guest room. I'm very much an American. I have an American aesthetic. I really love American furniture and American craft. Don't you think that's because of your family? Yeah, it's also... Well, because of my husband's family. They were collectors of 18th century American furniture. But my mother was also a lover. A little Americana, too, right? Like, I'm much more Euro-y. Yeah, you're Euro-y. I'm like... You're kind of fancier than I am. I am not as fancy as you are. I would call this casual. I know everybody says I'm so fancy. But I don't know. I don't know. I think you're pretty fancy, too. I mean, by normal standards. And I think I've sort of influenced you a little bit on the fancy side. Yeah, you got me to be a little bit fancier over the years. But yeah, I think... And I think that's such an interesting thing that we all come from a little bit of an aesthetic. Whereas you're a little bit American and pared down. And I'm more Euro-y. But again, I love the way our tastes come together. Yes. And I think we love a lot of the same things. And we both love to layer. And we love fabric and pattern. Right. And texture and color. And color, yeah. And color. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we both love... But we also both like white creams, too. Yeah. I mean, I like everything. I never... You like everything. I love that you say that. I love that he's always said that. He's always said I love everything. There's nothing I don't love. And when a client says to me, Oh, I hate green. Or I hate... See, I never really understand that. I don't understand that. How do you hate a color that's in nature? There are no bad colors. Do you not like grass? That's right. I mean, like... How do you not like colors? There are no bad colors. They're bad color combinations. A hundred percent. So I love the bedroom hall. You know, it's a small apartment. I love the way there's sort of a continuity. Very, very, very nicely done. Beautiful. Thank you. So pretty and happy, Annie. And again, our favorite colors, blue and green. Blue and green. Love, love, love, love, love. So happy. And I love the idea of the two full twin beds, right? I had to do that because I have two sons. Yeah, I have two sons. Because a twin bed is really a little uncomfortable. Too small. We have it in our sanatorium and we love sleeping in a twin bed. Both of us when we can't sleep. But a full bed is just a little nicer. And a couple can sleep in a full bed. Yeah, they can. Yeah, no, it's great. My parents did. There you go. Well, because in those days, people were, you know... They just didn't mind smaller things. Now we've gotten so grand, everybody wants a king-size bed. Once you have a king-size bed, it's awfully nice. I remember when I didn't use to put king-size beds in people's bedrooms. You didn't. I liked a queen-size bed. I thought a king-size bed was too much of a bed. Now I can't imagine. So you told your clients, no, you cannot have a king-size bed? I certainly did. Absolutely not. You know me. I said I think a queen-size bed... But people never questioned it. People love sleeping in queen-size beds. But now I think we've changed. Yeah. This is Carolina Irving on the walls, isn't it? I love it. Carolina Irving fabric. I love it. And I love the way you did the shades in the same fabric so they kind of, you know, disappear and it keeps the continuity in the room. So pretty. Really, it looks great. And what are these? These are... These are James Nair's. Yes, right. So pretty. Yes. And I needle-pointed this, too. Oh, did you? Yeah. Oh, my God. Again, that's so enterprising. Yeah. I love that. I gave myself... My kids always used to like to tease me because, you know, most people get tennis elbow and I got needle-point elbow. Oh, I love it. And I love the way you put it into the little footstools like that. That's so great. And again, oh, this is beautiful. This is beautiful. Oh, and this is our friend. This is from Louis Bofferding. And this is... This is Pierre Le Temps. I have a beautiful little Pierre Le Temps picture that my sister gave me one year for my birthday. You do. I love Pierre Le Temps. Yeah, he's wonderful. Louis was really... He was good friends with him. Great friends. Yeah, he was great friends with Pierre Le Temps. And he's gotten very valuable. Yes. Yeah, I love what he does. I bought it... I thought it was going to be like for the elevator vestibule but then it ended up being too small and it ended up being perfect here. It's great here. Well, you know, sometimes when the rooms aren't too wide and you need something... You need a surface. And I don't like a TV just floating. I want something under the TV. I so agree with you. And then I love the little African stool. Looks great. The room looks great. And I'm sure you use it, right? Oh, yeah. My daughter and her husband lived here during COVID. Which happens. And, yeah, yeah. Somebody just left. I had... Ashley was here and she just left. So, yeah, we use it. It's great to have. You can never have enough room. But it's also you don't want too many bedrooms because you don't want too many guests. Right. That's the thing about New York. Everyone always wants to come visit. Right, right. So it's nice to have one guest bedroom and you can be a little... So let's go see the primary bedroom. OK, great. Let's go see you and Matthew's bedroom. So here we are in your beautiful bedroom. It's just so tranquil and pretty. I know. It's a little noisy out there. It's not so nice. Well, not with your windows closed. No, no. With the windows closed, it's great. It's great. I mean, it's so quiet, actually. But you open those little windows, you get a little air and all of a sudden you hear the street. Yeah, because people are honking constantly. I'm obsessed with this detail, the way you did that, Annie. Oh, thank you. That's so pretty. I took a little bit of the trim off of the wall and put it on there. I love that. You know, I love a cut and paste. Yeah, I love to cut and paste it. It's so great. It's so French. That's beautiful. The curtains are beautiful. I love the walls. Who are the walls? Maddow. It's a Maddow fabric. And I absolutely love it because I love blue and light blue, dark blue. I love stripes. Yeah, so pretty. Yeah. Pretty, pretty, pretty. I love it. And this is our favorite Fortuny. Our favorite Fortuny. It's beautiful and so cozy and inviting in the room. And Swedish furniture. And I love the gaufrange velvet on the bed. And the upholstered bed's beautiful. I think we were together when I bought this bench. I bought it in upstate New York. We went to some really good antique dealers with Carol. I love the shape of it. And it's like a Moorish. Yeah, but it feels Swedish almost. I don't think it's Swedish. No, I think it's kind of like a Moorish kind of Arabic type shape. Love it, yeah. And then you taught me about gaufrange velvet which I had to have. So a gaufrange to Clermont velvet. There's nothing wrong with a gaufrange. So pretty. But that's Swedish. And that's Swedish and I love. Is that from Jill? This is 18th century Swedish. I bought it on First Dibs through a dealer in Copenhagen. It's beautiful. And. Lovely, lovely, lovely. And who's this? And this is a Jasper Johns print. That I also bought with my friend Evan Pepper, the art consultant. I love the Jasper Johns. It's so pretty. Yes, and this one is so beautiful. It looks great on these walls. To wake up and see this every day. It really looks great on these walls. It's really, really fun. It looks great on these walls. Thank you. It's really pretty. And this is another one of these divine sculptures, right Ann? Right, that's another Nadelman sculpture. So beautiful. And I had the base made for it. Well, it looks like it came together. It does, it does. Well, it took me a while to figure it out. But I knew that I wanted it in here. And it had to be up. And we had to be able to see it. The base is almost Swedish again. Yeah, it is. And it's meant to look like old Swedish. Beautiful. And what's this little painting? And this is an artist named Marine Glais, American artist. Still alive and working. She mostly paints houses. She's very pared down and minimalist. She's a really talented painter. She had a show at PS1. I think it was PS1. And it's all houses. And, you know, houses are important to me. Houses are important to you. So, yeah, I just fell in love with it when I saw it. I love it. It's charming. Charming. And I love the way Matthew has sort of the wonderful Georgian brown piece that's American. Yes, and this came from his family's collection. This was in his parents' apartment. Beautiful. Yeah. American. Really, really wonderful. Right. And I love masculine and sort of more feminine. Masculine, I do that a lot. I do that a lot. I like that. I like that. I like also that it's not, you know, as I say, a pair party. Right. You know, sometimes there's just too many pairs. Too many pairs. And I sometimes like the bedside tables to be different because I like a pair of lamps, but then a pair of lamps, a pair of bedside tables, it's just not that interesting. And a bureau next to a bed is always really good because who doesn't need extra storage? Me too. I have that on my side of the bed. And I just love it. And I've got that top drawer full of chargers. Yes. And playing cards and things for travel that I take. And it's just like a bedroom thing, but it's not in my dressing room. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. You have to have a drawer on a bedside. At least one, you know. Yes. This painting over the bed, aren't you going to ask about that? Yeah, it's interesting. Sure. So that is one of Ed Ruscha's palindrome paintings. So it says don't nod, but a palindrome is where it's the same backwards and forwards. So if you read it backwards, it says the same thing. So interesting. And I love that it's over a bed and lots of books. I love that too. So exactly. Right. Read while you fall asleep, of course, which we all do. Which we all do. And now we're going into your divine dressing room. This was technically the third bedroom in the apartment that we bought. So we reconfigured things a little bit. So you enter it now from the bedroom and it's my little office. It serves many functions. It's an office. It's a closet. And it's an extra bed when my two boys and my daughter are here at the same time, which happened once. But she slept here and she loves it back here. But you have to be prepared. You have to be prepared. And I love the fact that you are prepared. I'm like that too. We like to always be prepared for everything. For an extra person. Such a chic little room. And I'll never forget when you started collecting the wonderful silhouettes. And I thought it was such an interesting thing to collect and they're beautiful. Tell us about the silhouette collection. Well,I picked them up all over, really. And some of them are really good. And I learned from a very good dealer here in New York named Angus Wilkie that there was one guy who was kind of the Mac Daddy of all silhouette artists. Well,because this was photography in its time, right? There was no photography. So silhouettes were portraits. And I think I bought this one from him. So another form of art that is like photography that also tells the story about family and people. And history. This one, the one at the very top I just bought in England. It's beautiful. And I love that. I noticed that right away. The gentleman was sitting with his feet up. Exactly. Right. And, you know, just I think there's just a lot of there's a lot of history in here. And you think about the people who lived and how graceful they all were in their attire. That looks like the same woman. But were they sisters? It must have been sisters. Twins, maybe? Maybe. Look at how similar. She's a little thinner than she is. It's so interesting. She wouldn't be happy to hear you say that. Maybe she's on Ozempic and she hasn't started yet or she's already into it. It's great. I love it. Love, love, love. And I also have this little tiny collection of heart and hands. And these heart and hands are drawings and they're also some of them are textile. And it was in the Victorian era, I think, gifts that people would make for each other. So interesting. As a gesture of love and friendship. Wow. They're so interesting. You don't see them very often. Yeah, they're so interesting. And this one was an ink blotter. Wow. Kind of amazing. There used to be a dealer in Houston who knew that I think she's written about them, actually. Very interesting. Again, it's so interesting to have all these different kinds of collections. And because we encourage other people to do it, it's great that we do it ourselves. We practice what we preach, right? So lovely. Great little cozy, intimate room. So stylish. Thank you. So this is where I sit and work when I'm here. And Maddie's in the library and you're here. Yeah, and sometimes I take over his desk, too. Yeah, well, right. Sure. Or you hang out in the same room together. Right. Nice. Yeah, we do that, too. Love it. Well, it looks great. And I love all the jib doors and the built-ins and all your clothes are hidden. Well, I was so inspired by you and Scott's study. Dressing room, right? His dressing room. I remember going over there when we were building this and looking into it. And I love the fabric on the walls and it creates sort of dimension and it's great. It's a Claremont fabric. So pretty. We love Claremont. So pretty. Great little room and practical and chic, right? Everything it should be. And it flows so nicely off the bedroom. Yeah, and you can always snooker in another little chair. We love to snooker in a chair. And that's such a pretty little chair, too. It's divine with the trim and I love your bone desk. Yeah, another thing that my decorative painter in Houston painted for me. So pretty, so pretty. I really went on a big kick with this painting with parchment and bone. I love it. It suits the apartment and it's got continuity. You know, it's a small apartment so it's nice that there's... Everything needs to work together. Yes, it's nice that there's a lot of continuity. It keeps it feeling opened and airy and not like, you know, it's not like a specimen garden like going from thing to thing. There's a lot of flow. Right, right. But, well, you know, you can't be that way sometimes in your own house and you have to be careful because there's so many things we love and we see so much but you need to keep the flow going and I always tell that to clients, too. You know, just because you love something doesn't mean it works in the story. You know, maybe we have to save that for another house because we want there to be this continuity in the house and this flow. And it's definitely not a show house, right? Right, right. But it looks beautiful. You were very successful. Your continuity shows. It's beautiful. This is divine, Annie. It's so stylish. So this room had to serve many purposes, actually. A hallway into the kitchen. A bar. And behind these doors I have a laundry room closet, actually. Great. Remember? I have that. Yeah. And so this has... We have, you know, refrigerator drawers which I absolutely adore. Love, love, love. And we have... But thank you. I'd love a Pellegrino. Oh, good. I'm going to pour you one. I love to have continuity... Well, we have the continuity of the antique mirror that meets you in the front. So this is metal and lacquer? This is nickel and lacquer. Right. And the paper that I put behind the doors I found in a little shop in Kyoto. It's beautiful. We have a beautiful, very famous paper store in Kyoto. It's beautiful. It looks Japanese. I love Japanese things. I love Japanese things, too. Yeah, me too. We love that. We love that. So I just fell in love with it. Well, there's something so modern about Japanese things. Yes, yes. And they're so precise. So beautiful, the little fish. They're beautiful. Love, love the bar. And this is an onyx bar which I wouldn't recommend to anyone. Because it's delicate? Yeah, like you put a glass of water down and it marks... Well, it's beautiful, though. So, you know, but that doesn't bother me. I don't mind a little patina on things. I think it's okay. Well, we all have to live with it, right? It doesn't bother me. I don't mind. It looks great to me. How long have you lived here? Six, seven years, something like that. It looks great, Ann. Please. Yeah. It looks perfect. I'm a believer that things should look a little used. Everything shouldn't be... I mean, I don't want things dirty, but I like that things look... It's a home. It's meant to be... It's a living thing. It's meant to be used, you know? Thank you, sweetheart. Delicious. Cheers. We're allowed to because it's bubbly. We don't toast with flat water. Greeks are very superstitious. So here we are in your pretty little kitchen. So pretty. So we wanted an eat-in kitchen. So when we got it, we just had to make this surface counter-height, which works fine, right? So this can be a counter... I did an apartment in the building, and I have the same thing. You did? Uh-huh. When you say you're working, and you clear it off, but we also sit here and have breakfast, lunch, sometimes dinner. And your bar stools are so pretty. Yeah, these I had made in Houston. Love. Yeah, she did a good job. Yeah, love. I make bar stools, too, because it's hard to find a chic bar stool. It is. You know? I like to take an antique chair and turn it into a bar stool. Yeah. That's what I do, too. It's beautiful. It looks great. So pretty. And I love your dishes. What are the dishes, Annie? These dishes are Chinese, and they came from my in-law's collection. Beautiful. Yeah, and then other than that, I just have a lot of glassware, vases. And what about the dishes we're having lunch on? They're so pretty. What are those? You know, I really don't know. These are just... This was just a find. These came from my mother-in-law on the bottom, and then these, I think they might be French, and they're all a different flower. I love that. Love that. I'm really into blue and white. Me, too. I know. I love it, too. So it looks like you've never cooked in here. I have. I actually have, but not lately. Yeah, and you're like me. I wasn't here for Thanksgiving. It's kept immaculate. Yeah, I haven't... Not lately. We do hard-boiled eggs here, and, you know. Right. We made scrambled eggs. Yeah, Scott does that in the kitchen, but we eat out mostly, too. Yeah, it's New York. Yeah, well, there's so many restaurants in the neighborhood. There's so many great things to do. Yeah. And what's the paper in here? This is Galbraith and Paul paper. Love it. I love Galbraith and Paul. They're so talented. I've been buying them for many, many years, and you can custom color Galbraith and Paul, too, which is really fun. Really pretty. Love, love, love them. It looks great. So pretty. And I love your flowers in the window, so something to cheer you up a little bit. Yeah, there's not much of a view out that window, so I do try to block it. Well, that's typical New York, really. Yeah, that's New York. Most of the kitchens are in the back of the building. And I love the way you built your china cabinet over here. So pretty. Yep, lots of storage. And you really maximize the space, but it's fresh and open and lovely. They're very good architects. Very good. Yeah, they do a great job. Do a great job. Yeah. I feel like now, talking to you about collecting, we should go out and go for a shopping trip. Let's go to Paris. I know, I miss Paris. Or we could just go to Hudson, New York. You know, there's still good stuff in Hudson. I love Hudson. It's not as good as it used to be because there are less stores, sadly, and it's become more gentrified. But there's still some, you know, my favorite... Sodder. I love sodder, and I also love naga. Naga is beautiful. They have so many beautiful... I bought something in the living room from naga. I love naga. I love sodder, and naga are great. But remember when we used to go and everything was antique stores? Yes. And now, they're just not the same. We went to Memphis, remember? We went to Nashville. We went all over. And they're just... It seems like they're gone. Yeah, it's really sad. In Houston, too. Remember those antique malls I used to come visit you when you'd go? Now they're condos. I know, it's so sad. But that is... I mean, now we just have to shop more online, and we have to shop... Buy at auction. On First Dibs, and eBay, and auction. And there's a lot of stuff internationally now. And dealers have just gone behind closed doors. Right, right, more so. So you have to kind of know a little bit more what you're looking for. You have to snoop around. Yes, yes. You gotta know. It's more work. But anyway, it's fun. The sport of it's divine. Absolutely. So lovely. So should we eat something? Yeah, absolutely. Well, it's your birthday tomorrow, and I have this little present for you. It would be so cute. It would be fun if you opened it. Thank you, and it's so beautifully wrapped. I've had it for a really, really long time. I love the ribbon. It's so pretty. And I've been holding on to it, just waiting for this very special day. Oh, my God, I love that. Thank you so much. And you always make the effort to come for my birthday. I'm so appreciative. I wouldn't miss it for the world. That you come from Houston. It does happen to be the most fun time in New York. It is, it is. It's always on a good week. You know, so my birthday's December 12th, and it's so seasonal and festive at this time of year. And I always believe in celebrating your life. I think it's so important that we celebrate our lives because, you know, we never know, and it's important to enjoy and to celebrate. It's so pretty. Look at all this prettiness. I don't want to break it. No, it's something tiny because I know there's not much space left in your apartment. Oh, my God, it's beautiful. Oh, Annie, it's gorgeous. I don't know what it is. It's a box. And I love boxes. It's a box. It has a little gold and a little silver. Oh, it's beautiful, Annie. And I thought you would have space for it in your apartment. It's absolutely beautiful. I love all the sort of fretwork and the design to it. Happy birthday. It's so chic. Love it. It's going right on that little table I sit next to in the TV room, and I love it. You could put pills in it. You could put tiny little candies in it. No, I love it because, you know, I take Pepsi or I take... And I love that. Or the other thing I could do with it is sometimes I could pop my vitamins in it and put it in my bag or put it in my bag and take it with me because sometimes I don't like to take my vitamins until I have something to eat and I'm, like, rushing out of the house and you don't want to have your vitamins unless you have a little something. It's genius. So chic. Well, I love it. It's going out for sure. I love it. Thank you, my angel. Annie, tell us, like, what is so special for you about this apartment? Well, to have another... to have a foothold back in New York City where I grew up is really special. So it's home because I've always felt like New York was home. But it's also home because I come here and I have my coats and my shoes and my exercise clothes and it's really great not to have to carry that kind of stuff back and forth every single time I come here. And all your beautiful objects and your beautiful collections and your things. And you know what my favorite thing to do in New York City when I get here? I go... My husband and I put on our walking shoes and we walk to the flower district and we walk up and down that street and we just go in and we buy flowers and plants and then he carries them for me. He's very gallant and he carries them for me and then we get in a taxi and come back and I arrange everything and I love that. I find it so therapeutic to arrange flowers. So beautiful and it always looks so pretty here and I love that. And also it's another way of sort of doing something creative. Right. It is creative. It's creative and beautiful and it's something you enjoy. I feel the same way about flowers. It's my favorite. I love flowers. Absolute favorite. Well, they look beautiful. You did a beautiful job. Thank you. Thanks for watching. Be sure to go to homeworthy.com for exclusive content, shopping guides and so much more.