3D Design for Printing with Metal and Composites | 3D design webinar

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Hello everybody, there are lots of people joining now.
Thanks a lot for being here with us today.
We're very happy to do this online conversation with you
which is about how to design for additive manufacturing on the go.
And we're ready to begin right now.
First of all, I would like to introduce myself.
I am Lisa and I am the Marketing Manager for Europe at McClodge.
A big welcome to everybody.
Just a couple of information.
First of all, these are going to be our speakers today.
Lutz Feldman, my colleague.
He works as Regional Channel Manager here in Europe,
in Central Europe to be precise.
And we have Daniel Rosner, who's a User Researcher at Schoenberg 3D.
We will have a question and answer session at the end of this online event.
So please, if you have any questions, type them in the question and answer chat.
And now I'm very happy to leave the floor to our speakers.
Thanks Lisa for the warm introduction and welcome again to this webinar.
I don't want to spend too much time on explanation about McClodge.
We will see our product live very soon.
For me, it's more about the technical experience
about how to design for manufacturing or for additive manufacturing
or in particular, how to design for a specific process in additive manufacturing
because I think we need to consider not only the additive process in general,
but the specific process we have here at McClodge.
As some of you know, we are the company who does continuous carbon fiber,
continuous Kevlar, so we lay down continuous fibers into our parts
and we will later on show this live.
Now let's hear a little bit from our friend Daniel.
Thanks Lutz.
Hi everyone, I'm Daniel.
I'm doing user research here at Shapr3D.
So a quick intro of Shapr.
I'm going to do a long session shortly about how you model in Shapr,
but just do what Shapr is.
So Shapr is a 3D design app made specifically for the iPad and the pencil.
It is based on Parasolid.
It's the same geometric kernel that, for example, SolidWorks uses
and it is a direct modeling tool.
So you will see all the benefits of direct modeling tool later on,
but specifically it's very good for small part designs,
which I'm also going to show later on,
redesigning one of the parts that Lutz is just going to introduce now.
So let's move right away into the task.
So this was my job, you know, I got approached by a client and said,
well, we want to replace this little assembly,
which is just two standard parts, a laser cut cover plate
and a cast and machined metal part,
which we use just 10 times a year.
It's actually a spare part for them.
And we want to try to reproduce it in plastic actually,
but not in regular plastic, but in our plastic,
which has continuous fibers inside of it, you know,
just to provide almost the same strength as in standard aluminum.
With this geometry, I reached out to Daniel.
I basically, I send over the geometry as a Parasolid file,
and some design guides.
We have developed some design guides quite obviously for our process.
And with this set, I simply hand over to Daniel.
So you can see my screen now.
I'm working on an iPad Pro.
So without further ado, I'm just going to import this Parasolid file
right into Shapr3D, copy it to Shapr3D and start the redesign process.
So we have this four body part here,
which we have to redesign into one body part
while making sure that we properly prepare this for metal 3D printing.
So this is the prepared file.
I highlighted those features that we need to do
in order to make sure that this will be a smooth printing process.
So this means we have to add fillets to strengthen the corners.
We have to create teardrop overhangs
so that we don't have to print that much support.
So this makes the machining time much less.
And also, we don't have to take care of all the,
removing the support and so on.
We also removed some material on the sides
and also added some chamfers
so we avoid splaying during the sintering process.
So let's jump into it.
So what I'm going to start with is that
I'm going to remove the features that we are not going to need.
First, I'm going to union these two together.
You should be able to see my pencil and my touches on the screen.
The red dots are my touches.
I'm going to delete these bolts.
I'm going to delete these holes as well.
And I'm also going to delete these fillets.
We are going to add these later on,
but I don't want this to disturb me in the redesign process.
I'm also going to delete this mount part.
Make sure that it's back.
Also delete this hole.
We are going to recreate it.
And so this is my basic constraints.
This is my basic part.
And what I'm going to do now
is that I'm going to add all those features
that will make it ready for metal 3D printing.
So first, what I'm going to do is,
as opposed to this more circular mount,
what I'm going to do is that
I'm going to redesign something more boxy.
Let me just plug this in.
This should be 31 millimeters.
Got it.
I'm using my guidelines here and the grid.
Precise sketching.
Great.
So I have my profile here.
I'm just going to select this, hide it for a sec.
Make this a little bit smaller
so I can get all the profile
and cut it right through.
This should be 35 millimeters
and I need to union them.
So now that I unioned,
you can see that there are some excess spaces here.
I'm going to select these spaces
and I'm going to remove them.
So now I have to create the hole.
As I mentioned earlier,
so we need more of an angular overhang.
So what I'm going to do now
is that I'm going to offset these edges
and start preparing that hole.
Let's make it seven.
It should be 21.
Great.
21.
Great.
Now I need to do the teardrop on the top.
I'm going to use some guides here.
Create the teardrop.
Trim away this edge that I don't need
and I already have this profile
which I'm going to use to cut through my body.
So one thing about direct modeling
which is great is that you can later on go back
and for example, if you want this,
if it turns out that this hole is not in the right place
or it should be moved because of some issues,
you can just grab these surfaces
and you can move this around.
You can even scale them
or you can just grab but one face at a time
and you can for example say that,
oh, this should be 22.
So this should be on the same plane as this one.
So great.
So this was the first part
and now I'm going to go to the second part.
The second mount,
I'm going to remove first some material
which should be 0.5 and 6.
Great.
Let's remove some material and add a fillet.
I'm going to start adding fillets now.
This should be 6.
Let's add a fillet here as well
which should be 22
and add some chamfers as well.
Again, add fillets as much as possible
to ease the stress on the corners.
This should be 7.
Great.
So now I need to create this mount
that attaches this part to the machine.
So this should be on the same plane as that mount.
So what I'm going to do is
I'm going to project this edge to this plane
to use it as a reference
then go to that plane and start modeling.
I'm just going to model one part of it
and then later on I'm going to mirror it.
This should be horizontal and vertical.
Let's use some guidelines here.
This should be locked
and these two should be horizontal.
Now I want this to be 21.
Now I want this to be 8.
I also need some sort of a wall thickness
so I'm going to go back to the same method
that I used previously
and offset these edges 3 millimeters.
I also need to add a small part here.
Let's lock this in.
Let's make these horizontal and vertical.
This should be 4.
And this should be 2.5.
And finally let's remove this edge.
And now you can extrude it.
This should be 5.
And you can see that it's only the half of it.
So now what I'm going to do is
that I'm going to mirror this part and I'm done.
So now we have all these parts
which I'm going to union.
You will notice that I did make some mistakes here.
So let me just hide these.
There are some parts which are not connecting properly
and this is what you can do in direct modeling.
You can just grab these faces
and you can directly edit them
and see where the problems are
and address them directly.
Let's make this 6 on the top as well.
Great.
So now what I need to do is create this hole
where the ball valve goes in
and the pushrod goes out.
So I'm going to create the profile for the hole
and then sweep it across my body.
And first I'm creating a line
to make sure that this rectangle is positioned
in the middle.
Make sure it's on.
Again, we are aiming for angled overhang.
So this rectangle might not cut it
but if I rotate it 45 degrees
that should be good.
Great.
What I also need is a feature
with a small curvature on the side
that eases the ball valve's path into this hole.
So I'm going to create a small curvature here
while also I'm just going to lock this.
Let's make this tangential
and now I can freely dimension it
as the constraints are all there.
So now that I have this profile
what I need to do now
is that I'm going to sweep across these edges.
So I'm going to select these edges
and you can see that on the left side
I already have these tools
offered to me by the app.
So one thing that we try to make it easier for you
within the app
is to offer those features
that might help you not think
just select those tools
that are possible with your current selection.
So I just hit sweep and it's done.
So I can just remove this.
Again, selecting the two bodies
and hit subtract.
I actually want this the other way around
so I'm just going to change that
and I don't want to keep all the modified bodies
all the removed bodies
so I'm just going to hit done
and it's ready.
So now what's left is
to add those chamfers and fillets
and I'm not going to do all of them
because we are running out of time.
I'm just going to show you
how you can precisely dimension your chamfers
and add fillets as well.
I'm going to select a couple of edges here
and notice that the app actually notices
that your fillets are actually continuous
and you don't have to select all of the edges
and direct modeling makes it available
that all of the features are safe
and while you modify these faces
it will remember that those fillets should be there.
One thing that I forgot before we move on to look
that I forgot to add this curvature
I'm just going to extrude it into the body
and union it together
and it's done.
Let's hide this again.
So if you don't need this it's fine
you might not need it after all
you can just delete it.
Again direct modeling
you can delete certain features just going back
and to jump to the final part
this is the final part that I sent to Lutz
and the way that I'm going to send it to him
is that I'm going to export it as an STL file
in Shapr you are able to export in a high quality
but you also have the option to export in a cost
where you customize the tolerances
but I'm just going to do high for now
and I'm going to send it to Lutz
and yeah let's take it away.
I think you have the files.
Yeah thank you Daniel.
I mean this is just for me
this is just fantastic to have an app on an iPad
which allows you to take any kind of CAD geometry
and modify it as you wish.
I have now opened what Daniel sent to me
on our slicing software
which is our cloud-based Eiger
so what we want to go to do is
now using this geometry
slice it and dice it and print it
and my printer is actually running
so I will show you
I have a camera installed
so I can show it live to you basically.
So I mean the first thing we gotta do
is select the material.
Our Onyx actually is a nylon 6
with kind of 15% of chopped fibers in it
and you also can see the steels
and the coppers we have for our metal printing.
For now we just use our standard nylon material
and for reinforcement
I know from my client that this part here
has kind of some impactful things to withstand
so it has a lot of impact during his life cycle
so I choose instead of carbon fiber or fiberglass
I choose Kevlar
because Kevlar is known for its impact resistance as well
and I choose the printer.
I have some more settings
which is for instance the infill.
As some of you know
plastic parts are not printed in full material.
In the inner sections
we do kind of produce a triangular fill
or another or others.
I can just justify this
by specifying the type of fill I want
and the roof and the floor layers
so at the walls keep two layers of massive material
at the roofs and the floors
four layers of massive material
before you actually start the infill.
Now I go for the reinforcement
and I think I can better show you
the way we reinforce
by simply showing you an internal view of the part.
So here is basically the inner view of this part
and just to explain to you the process
this is now a two-dimensional view layer by layer
and you can let us jump to this layer for instance.
So what you see here is actually
all white lines are basically plastic.
So this is our nylon six with chopped fiber
and the yellow lines are actually continuous strings of Kevlar.
Continuous means really continuous
so how do we do this?
Well I think the best way
the best way to show it to you
is basically to show you the camera.
I hope you can see this now
this is actually live a webcam on my printer.
So what this technology is actually doing
I mean you can basically see it on the part
the yellow lines are actually Kevlar.
So we basically have two nozzles in this printer.
One nozzle is doing the plastic the nylon
and the second nozzle is actually laying down
a constant string of Kevlar fiber
and it's cutting there is a little cover in this nozzle
and it's cutting it and starting with the next one.
So the end result is actually a super strong part
which is of incomparable strength
to what you may see in other plastics
and with chopped fibers alone.
So this was kind of a little live video
of the printer doing something
and now switching back
I have the ready part here with me
so because I've already printed it
quite obviously in preparation.
So yes we do this part has Kevlar fibers internally
but you cannot even see it on the outside.
We have with our printers
I would say almost an unparalleled surface quality
and stability in this part.
So let's move over for a short second
to the presentation again.
Our software by the way does a lot more.
You can manage a fleet of printers
so you can always have a close look
at the uptime or downtime of your printers
material consumption, predictive maintenance
all this stuff is covered by basically our IGA software
which comes basically with each printer.
Usually we get a lot of questions
in regards to our continuous fiber process
and a friend of mine in my company
made a really nice video about it.
Continuous fiber printing is a variant
of a deposition based printing process
called continuous fiber fabrication or CFF.
One nozzle builds a thermoplastic matrix material
while continuous strands of fiber
are ironed down into the part with a second.
Software allows you to lay these fibers down
in specific places with specific settings
to optimize the part for its strength
just like with traditional composites.
So a part reinforced with continuous fiber
leverages the strength of the continuous strands themselves
rather than relying on the thermoplastic restraint
and we can show what a difference that makes right here.
So chopped fibers are basically a bunch of little pieces
of a strong material adhered together in some way
like how these bricks are held together
by their connection points.
A continuous fiber takes that same material
but forms a continuous connection
across the loading surfaces of the same part
represented by these plates on the top and bottom.
So when we apply a load to a chopped fiber part
it breaks at the connection points
which when applied to printing composites
is just the thermoplastic holding it all together.
When we apply the same load to a part
with continuous segments spanning the load paths
in this case the top and bottom plates of the part
the top segments act as a filler or a matrix material
and the load holds
because it's being distributed across the loading surfaces
by the continuous reinforcement.
This concept is what makes the continuous fiber
so much more powerful than chalk.
I hope this clarified some of your questions
about 3D printing composites.
Happy printing.
So thanks for this explanation.
I think the Lego brick example
is actually a perfect example
to show it in a very very easy way.
In real life this is the real difference.
We now see more and more printers
offering nylon with chopped carbon fiber
but chopped carbon fiber does give you a tensile strength
from approximately 50 megapascal up to let's say 100.
In an ideal world it's 100 megapascal.
Our carbon fiber reinforced material
reaches 800 megapascal
which is eight times the tensile strength of chopped fiber
because of the explanation you just saw.
So this is the difference
and it's the first time in history
that actually continuous fibers can be laid in geometries.
I mean I remember back my time studying material science
and we are using this carbon fiber mats
and epoxy hearts quite obviously to do this.
This has changed you know
and I think our technology provides you
together with Shapr3D
with an ideal almost ideal scenario
and how to do this.
With this said we are almost at the Q&A
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So we were quick.
Daniel good job 26 minutes.
So we go for questions.
Lisa.
Yeah sure thank you guys.
An anonymous attendee is asking
which file formats can be opened in Shapr3D?
So I think it answers Frank's question as well
but this might be an Eiger question
but I can answer the Shapr first
and then we can go to the Eiger
what Eiger can import.
So in Shapr3D you can export both meshes and solid models.
So in terms of meshes you can import STLs
and in terms of solids
you can import the native file format
of Parasolid which is XT
and you can also import STEP and IGES
and you can also import 2D files
which is DXF and DWG.
Great thank you.
This is for Lutz.
I think the same person asked
which file formats can be opened in Eiger basically.
Well we can import STL the object file.
Great thank you.
Next questions from Ioannis.
Sorry my German is very bad.
Are there any functions for topology optimization
in Shapr3D or can it detect
unvalid overhangs or restrictions
if you preset those?
So in Shapr3D you can do that
but I assume that Eiger can do that.
So what I would recommend is to send it to Eiger
and then go back and forth.
Again with direct modeling
you can simply just move those edges
and you can correct the design.
As I said earlier I've submitted some design guides.
Actually I have to say
if you look at our technology
and you think about generative design
there are some limitations for us
because our fibers are laying down in an XY area.
So if you want to use generative design software
you need to make sure it has the boundary conditions
of just being available in XY.
So that's one of those points.
More questions.
How do you stress test designed parts in Shapr3D?
Great question.
Again what I can recommend is
because Shapr is a great tool to use
in coexistence with other CAD tools.
I would recommend you to use SOLIDWORKS
or something else to do these stress tests.
This is not something that is currently
in the package of Shapr3D.
Shapr3D at the moment is mostly for modeling
for direct modeling.
So we have one more question.
Is SVG import on the roadmap?
Great question.
Again I think it's on our midterm roadmap.
It's definitely not something
that we're going to release in the next few months.
But it is something that is often talked about.
So hopefully we will be able to release it
in the next year or so.
Can you do assemblies in Shapr?
Many Shapr questions.
I love it.
So not yet.
Not yet.
So what you can do is that
you can import all your files
and align them together.
But in terms of like traditional assemblies
so when the parts are separate
and there is an assembly file
this is not something that you can do in Shapr.
You are in the multi-body design environment
and then in that multi-body design environment
you can move your parts around.
You can align those parts together.
Which design rule for metal additive manufacturing
is the most important?
Well the most important actually is
to avoid too many support structures.
We have a patented technology
so in our metal printing process
we have also two materials in the printer.
One is actually the metal
and the second material is ceramic.
So when support geometry touches a part surface
we actually put in a layer of ceramic release material
and after sintering
you can basically use a hammer and bump it away.
The problem is this does work for open outer supports
but if you have a lot of inner supports
in holes for instance.
So here comes this kind of teardrop design.
The function of the hole is basically the same
without making your support release process too ugly.
Thank you.
Are there any tutorials available for Shapr3D
to practice and learn before buying it, Daniel?
Yeah, sure.
So first of all the app is free to try.
If you download it from the app store
you can just directly jump into the modeling.
There is a paywall if you want to export it
but trying out all the 3D modeling
and what the app is capable of
you can do that in the free version.
As for learning how you can do that
we have tons of tutorials on our YouTube channel.
We have a quite lively discourse group forum
where you can ask questions from other users
or we have on various social channels
we have a very active Instagram
where you can talk with users as well.
We also post every week there is a new tutorial.
There's every week there's a new modeling video.
Thank you, great.
We also have a question about discussion groups and so on
but I think your answer was very complete.
So this is an answer to this question too.
Next question.
Is there a part size limit
and how will it work with larger parts assemblies?
I assume this is for the printer.
I mean, please visit our website.
We have various types of different printers
with different build sizes.
So in the case what you saw right now was a Mark II
which is actually our what we call desktop machine.
So there is certain limitations in size.
Our flagship printer is an X7.
He has double the print volume.
I mean, size-wise and height like the one you just saw here
and we are aiming for getting bigger.
I mean, this is one of the basic things in 3D printing
faster and bigger, faster and bigger.
So that's what we are designing on in the moment
in our headquarters and you can stay tuned to see more.
Great.
Thank you.
Lots of questions, guys.
This is amazing.
We have Bashkar.
I think that's the pronunciation
and they are from Taiwan.
And for the printers, how can they have a quotation?
Are there distributors in Taiwan?
Absolutely.
We do have partners in Taiwan available.
So probably the easiest way is to go to markwatch.com
and do a quote request
and this will be forwarded to our Taiwanese partner.
Daniel, in the Shapr3D,
can we do modification on STL files?
Yeah, you can.
After you import them,
you can do all sorts of modifications
with the help of Boolean tools.
So you are not going to be able to move around
the different vertices,
but what you will be able to do is to create geometry
and using the Boolean tools,
you will be able to modify that STL in quite a big way.
Thank you.
Peter asks, is it possible to use also materials
of other suppliers in the printer?
This question I got frequently asked.
We see ourselves as a closed system.
So we use our materials,
we use our software, our technology.
The point is we see ourselves as machining machines.
We produce parts and with high reliability,
with high quality and high repeatability.
I mean, you may want to do the same part over and over again.
Reliable, repeatable and accurate.
So we are a closed system.
You can only buy materials from us.
Thank you, Lutz.
Can we use Markforged to obtain CNC code?
Interesting question from Lukas.
No, actually not a part of,
I mean, security is of high concern
for an organization like us.
This is the reason why we are as an organization
ISO 27001 certified.
It is the highest possible IT security certification
you can get.
I think we are the only 3D printer provider
who is at this level certified.
And this is not only true for our infrastructure
and our cloud infrastructure.
It's also true for our files.
Our print files are MFP files.
They are 128 bit encoded.
There is no G code.
Basically, there was a reason for it.
G code wasn't enough
because of the fiber laying down process,
which requires additional commands
which are not available in G code.
But anyway, no, it's 128 bit encoded,
which gives our clients another layer of security.
Because, I mean, quite obviously,
you can build out geometry out of G code.
So it's kind of a loss of IP at this point,
which you don't want.
Marco's question.
I want to design gears in Shapr3D and print.
Is there a library to generate the teeth
according to international standards?
We don't have a library of gears at the moment
in Shapr3D,
but you can import from any sort of sources.
Thank you, Daniel.
Peter is asking,
which material will it be possible to use
when printing besides Onyx?
Well, talk about plastic materials here.
Besides Onyx, we have an Onyx ESD,
which is for electronical environments, basically.
We also have a nylon white material,
which is quite obviously without any
chopped carbon fiber.
That's it.
That's it for plastics for now.
In metal 3D printing, we have stainless steels.
We have various types of tool steels.
With Inconel, we have a high temperature steel
for high temperature environments.
We also have released, by the end of last year,
99.8% pure copper.
Right now, we are the only FDM printing company
which is able to print copper and get copper sintered
and produce 99.8% dense copper parts.
Lots of questions.
We will answer all the questions.
If we don't have the time to do it now,
first, we will email the answers to you.
Are there any plans to also make
Shapr3D for Android available?
Not currently.
But what we are going to do to expand our reach,
so we are going to go to macOS very soon.
And we are also working on a Windows version,
which you can apply for the beta on our website.
So that's the first stage to expand our reach
in terms of devices.
Android is not something that we are actively thinking about,
but it might happen.
But first, we are going to focus on the mouse keyboard.
So currently, it's only with the Apple Pencil.
First, we are going to focus on the mouse and keyboard,
then macOS, then Windows, and then we will see.
Thank you.
We are getting some questions about prices.
How much Shapr3D costs?
How much Markforged printers cost?
So could you say something about that, please?
Yeah.
So Shapr3D costs...
In the monthly subscription, it costs $32.
It varies across app stores
based on the taxes that you have in different countries.
And it costs...
If you buy it for a year, it costs $240.
Again, it varies across different countries
based on the VAT.
You can either buy it on the app store directly from the app,
or you can buy it on our website
where you can give your company info.
And if you are a company,
I would suggest to do it on our website.
But for the printers, it's a little bit more difficult.
Since we have various types of printers,
we have our desktop series.
The one you saw here on stage was a Mark II.
This printer is capable of printing
all of our plastic materials plus all of our fibers.
So this is kind of our desktop entry model.
It's about $20,000, let's call it dollar,
because it varies from region to region.
And our flagship industrial printer,
which is the X7, is at $70,000.
We also have Patricia, who's from Australia.
And she's asking,
how efficiently can assistance and maintenance
be obtained for the machines from Australia?
Easy to answer.
We have really very good partners in Australia down there,
and they offer their clients
what we call a success plan for the printers.
We have typically a few parts in a printer
which wear from time to time.
They need to be replaced,
whether it's the nozzles, the belt drives,
you know, fountain tubes, all kinds of stuff.
This is all included in the success plan.
So those spare parts who wear from time to time,
and there is a replacement schedule coming with the printer,
are covered by the success plan,
as well as the first level support from our local partner.
And we have partners out there in Australia
in every major industry.
Really, lots of questions.
This is great.
Is the current continuous fiber strong enough
to replace conventional materials,
such as aluminum and steel?
Absolutely.
So with the continuous carbon fiber,
we actually reach a tensile strength of 800 megapascal,
which equals standard aluminum.
So this is what you can expect.
The thought process also needs to be,
as we just showed in our little demo,
let's call it like this,
is you need to design for ADP.
So there is some upfront thinking,
because you may assume that in comparison to aluminum,
the strength distribution is not uniform,
because we lay the fibers in XY.
So yes, with the infill and some diagonal fibers,
and we can turn it by 45 degrees and stuff like this.
In this direction, in the XY area,
your part can be in perfect condition to achieve 800 megapascal.
But in this case, not in the Z direction.
So your part orientation and your part print
need to be a fit to actually the part used at the end,
and where you have these stresses and strains apply.
Thank you, Lutz.
Maybe we can take two more questions, guys.
What do you think?
Are there any features for additive design in Shaper?
Yes, so the question, the answer is,
again, Shaper 3D is currently only for the modeling part.
So additive design would require finite element analysis,
which we currently don't have,
and it requires a lot of power.
So this is something I guess we will do in the long run.
Definitely not in the next two, three years.
Great, thank you.
Sender is asking, you announced titanium as a metal.
When will it be released?
Well, the current plans are quite obviously delayed,
based on, well, it has something to do with the current situation.
I mean, we need to take care of our existing clients.
So our main focus throughout the COVID crisis,
which we are still basically in,
was on manufacturing our existing materials,
which reduces basically the power we could spend
in developing new materials.
Titanium is still on the list.
I cannot share any release date as of now, sorry.
Thank you, Lutz.
So we will be happy to answer all the questions by email.
And we do want to thank everybody for being here with us today.
This was a great live demo,
and also lots of questions from you guys, amazing.
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And thank you very much.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
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