"You Have No Freaking Idea What You're Getting Into"
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So me and my wife, I was looking for
some advice. We want to take our family,
we have three small children. We our
dream is to buy a Canadian fishing lodge
and run that from about May to November
every year. Um, the issue that I'm
running into, just because I'm new at
this, is trying to come up with figuring
out how to come up with a down payment
for something like that. You know, some
of these lodges range from $250,000 to
millions of dollars. Um, I'm trying to
figure out what's the best way to go
about doing something like that. It
depends on how much money you have to
spend.
You you you don't have any money to put
a down payment down. I mean, I've I've
got I think I could probably come up
with between my me and my wife and, you
know, asking my parents for, you know, a
small a small amount to pay back, I
could probably come up with maybe around
100 grand, but it seems like that won't
take me very far. What do you make
right now? I make about 90,000. What do
you do? But I'm in I'm in construction
and a job I really don't like. I'm away
from my kids, you know. Have you ever
worked in a Canadian fishing lodge?
No, but I'm really really good with my
hands. Really knowledge knowledgeable
about fishing and hunting. I'd be doing
both. And zero knowledge about business.
Zero knowledge about business. Yes, sir.
A fishing lodge is 90% business, 10%
fishing.
I I'm just going off of what I've talked
to. I I've got a couple, you know,
mutual friends now, of course, since I'm
in this process of owners up there. I've
talked to them and they both the both
the ones I talked to are they've been
they've owned a lodge now for about 10
15 years and they didn't do this before.
Didn't run business before. Um one of
them was in construction just like me.
Yeah. I I'll tell you I don't I I've
never been to Canadian fishing lodge. I
don't know what what that is. Is it
something Do you live on the property?
Is it like a a bed and breakfast where
you live there and you provide, you
know, all of this for for your guests
and and you're living on the property?
Yep. We would live on the property with
uh with our my family. And what we're
looking for, we are not going to provide
the American plan, which is food and
everything. It's more of just you're
coming up there, your fishing, we'll
take you, we'll guide your fishing trip,
we'll guide your hunting trip, show you
where to go, stuff like that. But we're
not going to provide the American plan,
which is all your meals included. So
just play this out with me. So you said
these could range from 250,000 plus,
right? All the way up to a couple
million. So let's just pretend you said,
"Okay, I'm looking at the $250,000 plan.
My family lives on the property. I put
100,000 down. So we've got the place,
we're living there, and now we're
starting to rent out the experience to
guests. What What happens next
on your end? Like what's the next step?
I guess I don't know what you mean. What
do you mean next step? So you've got the
lodge, you purchased the property.
What's the next step? How do you build
out the business? How do you get people
to come to you? How do you build a
profit?
The next one's Yeah, there's already an
existing customer base on most of them
because you're buying a turnkey. But the
a lot of the lodges up there are for
sale are elderly people that are trying
to get out and they haven't marketed in
years. They don't do online marketing.
They're only they're only relying off of
their annual return customers. Um, like
I said, both the people I talked to that
have purchased the lodge in the past 10
years said it was really easy to get a
lot to to up their their customer basis.
It was really easy with simple marketing
tactics, you know, and what do they
earn? Like what's their what's what do
they what's their net profit? What are
they getting out of this? I mean, I
couldn't ask them that. I'm not close
enough to them to ask them exactly what
they're earning. But the first If you
want, if you said, "I'm going to put
$150,000. I'm going to put $100,000
down. I'm going to buy a $250,000 house
with $150,000 with $100,000 down. I'm
going to have a $150,000 mortgage." Mhm.
And I'm going to start a new business
and I don't know anything about the
business other than I'm know about
fishing. And I talked to three people
who said it's a good idea. Um
uh you know, so the elderly people are
going to owner finance the 150 and hope
you make a go of it. Okay. Yep. Um
um so are you are you 27 or 29?
28. Yeah. Almost like I've done this.
Okay. And um so I'm your old ugly uncle
uh that's 64 that loves you. Okay.
Um, you are about 90% dream and about
10% reality in talking to you. Yeah. You
have no freaking idea what you're
getting into. You just think you do. And
it's very romantic with rainbows and
Skittles and unicorns in your head right
now. And when you get up there and get
dirt under your fingernails and realize
this is freaking mess
and what have I gotten my family into,
that's about the time you're going to
discover how this really works. So I I
really would love for you to go work at
one for one of these people, operate it
for them as a part of the purchase plan
before you close on the deal. like run
it for a year and see the numbers and
see what is wrong with this because the
only impression you have is all
positive. And there are three rules of
business, Caleb. It's going to take
twice as long as you think. It's going
to cost twice as much as you think. And
you're not the exception. Those are the
three rules of business. And you you
know the the way you're painting this is
you are using fantasy language, not
reality language. And it scares me for
you. I'm afraid you're going to turn
this dream into a nightmare if you're
not real careful. And so I'm afraid of
that, too. I I really want you to get
some reality on you in this thing and
get under the rainbows and the Skittles
and find out what the flip is really
going on up there. And you know, why is
it that there seems to be a lot of these
for sale? And um you know, there's a
problem here. Okay. So, I I I really
want to go work up there. Uh, I want you
to take your family up there on vacation
for three weeks. Find an old couple that
wants to sell a 250,000 one. Write down
a a a contract that says, "I'm going to
work for you for a year. At the end of
that, I'm going to close on this if I
find out things to be the right thing,
be the way that you say they are. And if
I can get financing or if you provide me
financing and what's it mean for you to
be doing business in another country?"
And now, now you are an immigrant. I
don't know what it means for an America
to immigrate permanently and buy a
business in Canada. I have no idea how
to do that. Um I do know it's probably
more difficult than it was 12 months
ago. Uhhuh. Uhhuh. Um so, you know, you
probably got some issues there. And um
you know, I really want to understand
the business better than you are doing.
And so the way I always ask myself when
I'm going into something as a business
person, would I hire me
to do that? And if the answer is I don't
know what the flip I'm doing. No, I
wouldn't hire me to do that. Then that
tells me not to go into that space until
I learn some more about it. And I am
100% sure you don't know what the flip
you're doing on this. Well, there's no
fish. There's no numbers around. I don't
doubt that. But you've never run a
business of any kind and you're stepping
into this. I'm not trying to be a dream
killer. I love killing nightmares,
though. I love killing nightmares. So, I
want you to go forward with this slowly,
carefully, and much more wisely. And
then, while you're doing that, work like
a crazy man and pile up some cash and
come up with your down payment and get
one of the old people to owner finance
it because I don't think a bank's going
to touch us with a 10-ft pole, dude. And
that's probably good for you that they
won't. So
um so guys um
the wonderful thing about America is
that we live in the free enterprise
system.
And the wonderful thing about America is
that 54% of the gross domestic product
is brought to you by small businesses.
All the goods and services totaled up
over half of them are delivered by small
businesses. People like Caleb who
started something. So I love encouraging
the free enterprise system. I also have
spent 20 years coaching over 20,000
small businesses through our entree
leadership brand and I see all the
things that go wrong when you're doing
this. So, um you know, you're not the
exception. It's going to take twice as
long and it's going to cost twice as
much. Those are the three rules and they
do apply. They apply to me when I get
ready. You're not the exception. When I
get ready to go into When I get ready to
go into We're going to open an app. Uh
we're working on one for Dr. John
Deloney right now. Let me tell you what,
our projections on that are known as a
guess. Uhhuh. We have no idea what the
stupid app's going to do. And we need to
build out our business model as if the
thing does nothing and then when it does
something, be pleasantly surprised.
Yeah. You know, and so uh and you can
get digital advice, but everybody's got
a dad gum opinion. They're like armpits.
They stink. Oh my god. Caleb Caleb needs
to invest. His first investment needs to
be in your book. Build a business. Give
him let me send him send him entree
leadership and send him build a business
you love. I want you to do this I want
you to do it in such a way Caleb that it
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