Mikki Willis: How Human Beings Lost Touch With Nature and the Divine

and we follow the science we got harmed and now Facebook won't even let us have a group where we can talk to each other what is happening here in this country we have made this film to give them a voice in this episode I sit down with Mickey Willis an award-winning filmmaker and producer of the plemic series we discuss his new film Follow the Silenced the game we're playing as citizens is a very different game than is being played by the policy makers we also discuss Willis views on spirituality and how human beings have become disconnected from what Willis says is the brilliance of nature and also from their divine intelligence and after 30 some odd years working in Hollywood I saw a lot of people that I will say most definitely came in with a soul and left without one incrementally given away a little piece of themselves this is American Thought Leaders and I'm Ya [Music] Kellik mickey Willis such a pleasure to have you back on American Thought Leaders thanks nice to be here mickey we live in a very divided society it's you know incredibly obvious and you have a pretty unique way of looking at this that you've recently written about tell me about that this being the crisis that we're all in together here uh well I I think one thing that um most people know me as a filmmaker and really my life's work has just been a fascination with people and uh really the through um anthropology and ontological studies of just really discovering like what really makes us tick and why do we do what we do that was all just out of a curiosity to figure out who and what the heck I am and what I noticed though is that um a lot of the stuff that's occurring in the world um is going to continue to occur as long as we uh resist taking responsibility for the ways that we've participated in it and there is as we've all seen a real concerted effort to divide the people you know because united we stand and divided we fall those words were spoken 2,600 years ago and they stand just as powerful today as they did then and the people that want us divided know that that's the case that if they can keep us fighting with you know ideological warfare with just these uh new social trends if they can keep all this stuff in the media to where we're obsessing on all of these things that they matter but they don't matter as much as um the energetics that are keeping us in the cycle and what I mean by that is the core agenda is to in some way disempower the human soul this thing we call our soul i use it in interchangeably with spirit in 2008 I had a profound experience i was driving down a single lane country road and there was a dead bird in the road flat and I had to drive around it and as I drove down the road this voice spoke to me and I this voice has spoken to me many times um today I will call it God but for many many years I resisted even considering that that's what it could be but this voice said to me "The bird's not dead." And I said "Oh the bird was clearly dead flat in the road it's dead." And I kept driving and it just kept saying "The bird is not dead." Till I got so frustrated I put my brakes on i backed up and I looked at the bird and sure enough it was alive it's lying there flattened out on the ground but looking up at me with its little black eye and it amazed me because I thought what what was that that that intelligence that knew something that was contrary to what I believed so I took this bird off to the side of the road and because of that kind of mystical experience that I just had I kind of felt this unexpected infinity towards this bird so I said I'm going to say a prayer for this little bird blue J and as I was saying a prayer for this bird I knew it was in its last moments there were power lines above and I figured out okay that's what happened it got electrocuted i just my eyes started to tunnel onto this little bird's glossy black eye and the physical world disappeared it reminded me very much later when I saw the movie The Matrix and they stood in that white room and as Morpheus explained to Neo all the truth of the universe everything disappeared it was just white and this bird is kind of floating in this white void and I couldn't look away from it and I couldn't blink my eyes were watering but it was just this tunnel vision and I knew I had to maintain my focus on this bird and in a moment this glossy animated window into the soul of this bird just went flat and I knew in that moment that I'd actually seen the life force of this bird leave and it changed me in such a way to to realize there's there there there really is something there that animates this bird but what was crazy in that moment Yan is that hundreds if not thousands of ants the moment that eye went flat they charged in and enveloped this bird not one of them approached this bird until it until its life force left and I just stood there and I looked at this and I was like amazed i'm like God that's fascinated by the the brilliance of nature and how this orchestrated itself with these little ants that we just write off as these meaningless little insects that they were so aware of the life force of this bird and in some way waited almost honorably until it was time to approach it and so since then I've been just pondering on this idea of like what what is this thing we call our soul then CO shows up and I thought what is the push here why are they pushing so hard to put something into the bloodstream of humans it felt like an experiment of some sort it's one of the reasons we acted so fast to release plan one May 4th of 2020 because I knew I could feel it in my heart and I knew Anthony Fouch's history bad things happen when bad people are in charge so something bad is about to happen we we've heard the fables as a storyteller as somebody who studied mythologies for 35 years the work of Joseph Campbell there's always some kind of underlying message about the life force of the hero the soul of the hero and and that's what the dragon was ultimately trying to capture not just trying to kill the physical body but it's it's the soul anything that has to do with the supernatural or the devil or whatever it's always about the human soul then we have the the you know the fables of the devil in the crossroads of meeting the devil and signing away you know for fame and fortune or whatever it might be giving a piece of your soul and after 30 some odd years working in Hollywood I saw a lot of people that I will say most definitely came in with a soul and left without one incrementally given away a little piece of themselves not their physical body they're all intact but when we say that they're giving a piece of yourself away what is it that you're really giving away the technocrats are trying so hard to bring us into this stage of transhumanism and they've succeeded in outpacing the human mind already ai is far more intelligent than we'll ever be but they cannot measure duplicate emulate in any way the human soul it's become a real problem and I believe more and more that the reason the value of this thing we call soul spirit is that in some way is our umbilical cord our connection to divine intelligence all of the birds and everything outside this building right now all the insects the birds chirp in the morning do people even really stop to even listen to that anymore like why do the birds chirp in the morning do you know they actually trigger the plant life to open up and to pollinate and it triggers the insects to come in and spread that pollination there's a whole orchestration that happens every single day right outside our our bedroom windows um and so what is it that's informing the birds what what informs the birds when when they're in that murmmoration stage of flying thousands moving on a dime as one body how is it it's not a it's not an audible cue that they're following they're they're tapped into some something that us humans have been severed from that leaves us unable to flow with such grace with each other so instead we're bumping into each other and harming each other and so for me that's that's kind of the the core of what I'm interested in right now so you think this is the root of the division among people I guess but people would say well it's actually a lot simpler than that right it's just it's just politics some people would like to have less government and some people are perfectly happy to have a lot of government and want to put their trust there why make this so complicated Mickey well see we wouldn't need government if we were connected with this divine intelligence that I'm talking about it's only when we're severed from that then we suddenly need someone to lead us i would say the metaphor I like to use is once upon a time we all received our first PCs and they sat on our desks and they could only do whatever was programmed on the hard drive you might be able to put a little floppy in and give it a new word program or whatever but other than that it was limited it was a closed circuit and then I believe a lot of our inventions maybe all of our inventions are us trying to figure out ourselves our deeper purpose on how these bodies actually um engage with this universe and this world that we live on and live in and so I believe we create something like the internet to understand what what we're capable of so we create the internet and now that little useless paper weight on our desk isn't becomes a supercomput because it doesn't matter what's on it it just has to receive now so it dials up in the beginning you know the dial up was slow and crazy we look back on it now and it would take forever just to get that online connection but I think that over time we perfected that now that our little phones and everything are just these supercomputers with infinite intelligence that we can pick up we're about to learn what we've been severed from if we go back in time and we look at the ancients and our ancestors and the indigenous cultures we always look upon them as realizing they were somehow connected to nature more than we were they they could hear when the buffalo were coming or the they listened to the ground and the water and the trees and they were they were they were in communication with nature and we have systemically and by design been been severed from our nature mickey just one quick sec we're going to take a break and we'll be right back folks and we're back with Mickey Willis executive producer of Follow the Silenced well tell me about Follow the Silenced so about four over four years ago now Steve Kersh who's become very well known in the um freedom vaccine movement because he was a very wealthy entrepreneur who invented things like the optical mouse right and and so he's known as kind of a legend for innovation and um and he was very very very pro- vaccine fiercely um and the way he tells the story is his carpet cleaner didn't show up and that was rare for this particular carpet cleaner and when he finally uh did show up he said "I'm really sorry." He said "Um my wife and I," I guess his face is ticking or whatever and he's like "We have this condition going on." And he said 'What how how is it that you both could have a new condition was this hereditary or did you No it just it just happened to both of us and he said 'Th that's not common that like what did you do recently and he said wow it was right after the vaccine that's when Steve went "What?" He's fully vaccinated and he started to dig into it and then he called me a little over four years ago and he said "Are you tracking all the injuries that are happening here because they're being buried no one will listen to them." And there's apparently there's a bunch of people who did the all the trials Astroynica and Madna and and Fizer and and they're uh they know that they're injured and they had all the people that were doing the trials that some of them are in wheelchairs and breathing through tracheotomy um instruments and and I said "Yeah I'm getting a lot of those messages too i don't know what's going on there." And he said he goes "I'll I'll kick in a little bit of money if you want to investigate this." And so I said "Okay let's go." So we started that four years ago and we've been on this film without stop for four years well we thought it'd be released in one year but it's perfect that it's coming out right now because quite honestly I don't think people would even paid attention to it three years ago it would have been written off as just another conspiracy theory but there's too many people now and people in in powerful positions who have experienced their own myocarditis or whatever it is and so uh we took the film on i hired uh one of my top directors in my company because I was already committed at the time i was making The Great Awakening so I said I'm pretty tapped out as a director great awakening is very complex and I have a lot of research to do but I will oversee as kind of an executive director and I'll bring Matthew Guthrie in um my top guy and and we'll we'll we'll do this thing justice and so here we are four years later it's a beautiful powerful documentary tragic uh but also very inspiring because it turns out to be a story of this group that formed that now called themselves React 19 i'm not going to give up i mean it was hard imagine being so trusting that they were excited to be the first in line and then they're confined to a wheelchair and they're having spasms and seizures and and non-verbal whatever it is and then to when they speak out about it then they're then the establishment tells everyone they're just a bunch of crazy people it's all in their head that's pretty much what all of them were told they have the same exact story that everyone just said it's it's in your head you're crazy and um and so they found each other hundreds of them thousands of them came together and then those Facebook groups and everything they formed would be shut down and they couldn't understand it like we're victims of this situation and we follow the sci science we got harmed and now Facebook won't even let us have a group where we can talk to each other what is happening here in this country and so we have made this film to give them a voice and to make sure that their story and their sacrifice doesn't go unnoticed and that it's serious and that we understand moving forward as a people that it's probably not a good idea to ever succumb to anything experimental that could do us permanent damage but I just want to say uh gratitude to this Santa Monica Film Festival who's been very supportive of our work The Great Awakening One last year and they've asked us to come back with the film this year and they chose to premiere it at the Director's Guild of America which is pretty amazing because it's right in the belly of the beast in Hollywood West Hollywood um but we we needed a bigger theater than they could um find in Santa Monica because there's such um anticipation for this film react 19 I know is actually helped so many people helped support so many people that have been that have had these injuries um you know fully volunteer driven it's actually quite quite a remarkable quite a remarkable organization it is yeah with really truly incredible people the way that they've supported each other um I tell you I I think many of them uh wouldn't be here with us today if it weren't for this organization i think 80% of them said in their interviews that at some point they had all reached a point where they felt that death was an easier life than dealing with the injuries that they were dealing with and so but when they met each other that all changed they talked each other off the ledge and said "No life is worth fighting for." And you know some of them have improved some of them have not some of them have gotten worse and probably will continue to do so and probably have a reduced lifespan as a result of this not everyone has been injured but that's the danger of when we start treating medicine as a one-sizefits-all situation it's got to be very personalized and we have to understand how everybody everybody responds uh particularly to new technologies that have been never been injected into the bloodstream in this way before it's it was very very reckless and as you've had on your show many times one of my dear friends Robert Malone as one of the inventors of mmRNA mRNA technology you know we we'll say that he that's something that he never imagined they would have done with this thing that he was one of the inventors of it shouldn't have been done right at the level of development that it existed at right that's right right going back to you know this crisis of meaning that that you've been outlining and and we've I guess been dancing around in this discussion i think one of the things that was common to many of the people that I talked to that have you know came through these last few years whole where they had this type of connection with God but they found newfound meaning many of them found newfound meaning through uh uh you know the difficult circumstances that they were placed in along the way i want to make it clear that everyone has a different purpose and that purpose might be just raising children and that purpose can also take place wherever you are i met a woman who worked in a bank and she goes I I just I can't do anything till I get out of this bank i said "What do you want to do?" She goes "I I just want to I want to make people happy make them happy." Like start doing it right there at your job like like don't just treat it as I'm just going to take their transaction get boom boom and they're gone and it's another person moving through like make that human connection with them let's come back into the that natural way of being where we actually look into each other's eyes and give each other a moment um and sometimes doing that thing we don't want to do like I always tell my boys I go "Okay I've had 12 hours of editing today it's 8:30 at night i'm going to the gym do you think I want to go to the gym?" They go no i said but that's that's the difference of I don't let my life you know be ruled by just what I want and don't want it is very uncomfortable for me right now and the thought of after this long day driving 20 minutes to the gym and lifting heavy weights is the opposite of what I want to do right now but I'm disciplined in my commitment to being healthy so that overrides my addiction to making excuses to find a back door to my commitments i say so when you are you make those personal commitments live by them stay strong particularly to yourself because that then becomes strength in 2008 I was building a digital distribution platform for independent movies and I was studying user interface user experience and I was very fascinated by it you know where all the buttons go and what colors they are and what causes people to click and to be engaged and and what loses them too many clicks and they go away and right during that time Facebook changed their awesome button to a like button i remember thinking that is so counter to everything I'm learning right now what an odd choice that the biggest platform in the world would make i think it's a bad choice why would they do that i could never understand it until 2020 because the thing that got me was I was this guy that was really liked by a lot of people and suddenly my likes are going D and I went "Oh they know how to manipulate us we are all addicted to likes now all these creators are self-censoring because they're looking like "Oh when I talk about that subject I get downvoted when I talk about that I get upvoted." So they start to self-censor based upon how much they're liked and what was really driving the pain that I was experiencing my fear of telling the truth was I may not be liked anymore there's going to be half this world half this country for sure that's not going to like me and as a man who spent way too much time trying to be liked that was a painful thought and the moment I let that go I just realized that's part of the mind control that's part of the trick where now that's the dopamine hit i got to like dopamine got to like dopamine i got a down vote decrease in dopamine i care about the amount of views our films get because I see it as well that's impacting more people but not of selfworth this modern world is conditioned to make us care so much about what others think about us and while we should while we should be good people and moral people and kind people and loving people and courteous and all these good things not to the point of where it's now shaping pulling us away from being honest and saying what needs to be said i'm the friend that will say things to my friends and um like everyone's talking behind their back i think I think I think Bill's drinking too much everyone's saying "I notice every party he gets drunk whatever." And I'm the one that says "Bill I think you're drinking too much let's talk." And it's not that hard some people get mad they get defensive but they come back later and go "Hey you're the first one actually called me on that." Yeah you're right i'm in AA right now i had a I had a problem i didn't want to see it thank you well Mickey Willis it's such a pleasure to have had you on thank you always great to be here thank you all for joining Mickey Willis and me on this episode of American Thought Leaders i'm your host Ya Kell [Music]