西方主持人犀利發問：“如何識別潛伏在我們鄰居、朋友圈和教堂中的中共間諜？” ——藍述在“矽谷自由論壇”的演講（3）

OK, great, I love that question. OK, first of all, it is a concern. It's a legitimate concern, you know, for those people who came to the United States through our southern borders, you know, illegally entered the United States. It is indeed a concern. But there are several parts of this question I want to break down for you. So, number one, first of all, we did our own investigation. We interviewed many of those people who crossed the southern border and came to the United States as a refugee. Most of the stories we heard is, you know, because of China's very strict zero-COVID policy, you know, many of them are actually small business owners. So they basically sold their business, they cashed out the money and they, you know, came. The most popular route is they will first fly to Turkey, you know. And from Istanbul, they will fly to Ecuador. I think it's Ecuador that you can go there without any, you know, visa. So they will go to Ecuador and then they will hire a smuggler. And then it's more expensive that way. But, you know, if you know that you speak English, you can, you know, get the cost a lot lower because you don't need a smuggler until you came to Mexico then you need to hire a smuggler who will help you, to lead you basically go through the rainforest. That's the most dangerous area. So that's the story. Of course, we are the media, I'm the reporter. So we have no way to actually verify behind those stories, true or not true, you know. I think that job to verify true or not true of that story, that depends on this job, right? Now, that's the first part, you know, that's what we did our investigation. Because we share the same concern. We are Americans too, you know. We share the same concern about the safety and security of this nation. Number two, yeah, this is why I want to say this, you know. We do have a concern of the Chinese military, all their national security people come to the United States. Back in 2023, I'm not sure if you remember, and I'm not sure if you actually went to see. I saw in San Francisco when we, you know, invited President Biden, invited Chairman Xi. Now, keep in mind, let me ask you this. Do not call him President Xi. OK, President and Chairman are two different worlds, you know. In English vocabulary, President is an elected official. And Xi, you know, in Chinese language, you know, he's Chairman Xi. That's the word he called himself. And that's the word 1.4 billion people call him Chairman Xi, not President Xi. It's, you know, some of the crazy Western media people created this President Xi. That's a wrong way to call him. So, anyway, now, when Xi came to San Francisco, we have Chinese people, political dissidents, human rights activists protest in San Francisco, in the streets against him. And there are Chinese people who are waving also, the Chinese students who are waving the Chinese national flag, and who beat the Chinese political dissidents just right in front of San Francisco police officers. And they just let them go. They didn't even catch them. Like 5 to 10 feet away, you know, in front of San Francisco police officers. They didn't even stop them. We have actually video, caught right on the video. Should we be concerned about those things? Yes, we do. OK, but again, that's Pemba's job. Not the job of the Epoch Times. But we did our best trying to find, investigate the story. Now, number 3, another thing we want to say is we do need to separate the Chinese people from Chinese Communist regime. Why? Think about this. Now we, you know, our job is, we want to defend the peace. We don't want, anybody actually want, raise your hands, anybody who actually want a war with China. We don't want a war, right? We live in a free world. We just want to work hard and enjoy our freedom, right? We don't want a war, but we want to defend the peace. But then the problem, another problem is if we don't want a war with China, who is going to solve the problem? The war's biggest problem is the Communist regime in China today. Who is going to eventually solve the problem? It's the Chinese people in China, right? One day, they're going to rise up and say enough is enough. So that's why we need to separate the Chinese people from Chinese Communist regime.