Ratcliffe: Horowitz's Investigation Complete, Report Coming Soon
No, it has. And Congressman Ratcliffe, again, you've been a U.S. attorney.
You and Trey Gowdy have reviewed the FISA reports. It says verified at the top,
and I guess maybe if they want to debate what verified means. But you've actually
looked at the unredacted reports. Comey says he did everything right. You two have looked at it
and said it's not wrong, but that it was potentially done poorly and wrong and deceptively,
maybe exculpatory information was left out. Is Horowitz going to be the definitive word?
What is his role in this process? I think he's going to be one of the
more important voices. I know a lot of folks are looking forward to Bob Mueller's testimony on
July 17th that's coming up, but Bob Mueller is going to talk about collusion that didn't exist,
about obstruction that the attorney general found didn't exist. You can ask Bob Mueller
10 times in 10 different languages, and I don't think there are going to be any new facts. I don't
think there are going to be any new conclusions. But Michael Horowitz and his findings and John
Durham and his findings, those are going to be significant. Those relate not to Trump misconduct,
but to potential Obama misconduct. Look, you know, Jim Comey says they did everything right,
even though, as Trey pointed out, you know, you've got the lead investigator who promised to
stop Trump, wanted to prevent him from becoming president. He had a deputy director who
lied under oath on multiple occasions and was criminally referred. And as Trey pointed out,
Director Comey himself leaked private conversations with the president.
You know, he has apparently a different definition of the word proud when he says
he's proud of all that work. But we'll find out. Michael Horowitz, I do think
his findings will be significant, Jason, because it presents a real potential problem for the
Democrats. Right now, we already know Bob Mueller has told us that a Democratic administration
started an investigation into a conspiracy with Russia that did not exist. That's bad enough.
It'd be a whole lot worse if it turns out that that same Democratic administration
continued that investigation by breaking rules at the FISA court. If that happens,
you can pretty much put a pin in any impeachment balloon, because it'd be hard for the Democrats
to say, well, we started an investigation that we shouldn't have. We continued it by breaking the
rules. But we want to impeach a president for trying to obstruct that investigation that never
should have started. So, Congressman Gowdy, let's go back to Director Mueller, who's coming to
testify. You're no longer on the committees that would be questioning him. What are the
Democrats up to? Why would they do this? And if you were on the Republican side of the aisle,
what kind of questions are you going to ask Mueller? Well, first, the easy part,
why are the Democrats doing it? Because they're never held accountable by the D.C. media. I mean,
they brought Michael Cohen and John Dean as either fact witnesses or experts. You would
have been excoriated as the chairman if you had brought two witnesses like that.
But they've got a safety net. They're never criticized. You're calling someone who doesn't
want to come, who's not going to deviate from the four corners of his report. Some of us didn't even
think his report should be made public. We sure as hell don't think he ought to be testifying.
But they're going to get a pass. What should Republicans do? They should prepare. You've
got the best lawyer in the House as your guest tonight. I'm not worried about Johnny Radcliffe.
He's fantastic. But the other members need to prepare, and they need to think in terms of
tranches or buckets. What did Mueller find? No criminal collusion. What did he not find?
An indictable obstruction of justice offense. What did he not bother to look for?
Johnny just mentioned collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. We do know one campaign was
getting dirt from Russia. Did Mueller bother to find out whether or not the Russian government
was feeding that dirt through Christopher Steele to Fusion GPS? Did he even ask?
And the legal issue that is really important, and Johnny just touched on it,
if you can resist an unlawful arrest, can you really obstruct an unpredicated investigation?
Which is why it's important where Mueller began. And I don't think he began by figuring out the
origins of the Russia probe as it relates to Trump. But we'll find out. Prepare,
set low expectations. It's five minutes. It's impossible to unlock the mysteries
of the world in five minutes. I wish they weren't having the hearing. I'm really glad
that we got a good lawyer like Johnny Radcliffe that's on duty this year.
No, a lot of us wish that he could just pour all the questions into that bucket. But gentlemen,
it was a pleasure and honor to serve with both of you. And I thank you for your service. And
Congressman Radcliffe, we wish you the best and Godspeed in these upcoming hearings. Again,
thank you, gentlemen.

