In today's video I am meeting with Arielle in Paris and we share our honest experiences on moving to France: the good, the bad, the ugly AND the magical! There are some differences between France and our native countries (The Netherlands and Canada) but we also discover that we don't have exactly the same experience since we're not from the same country. If you have any questions for us, if you're planning to move here or anything we feel we can share about, don't hesitate to leave your question in a comment. I hope you found this helpful!
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today I'm in Paris where we're going to
meet with Ariel she's originally from
Canada and she moved to France eight
years ago to study at the school of
Journalism in Exon provance she then
moved to Paris where she now lives with
her French boyfriend and we are going to
talk today about how she has experienced
moving to France and building a life
here I met Ariel because she has a
wonderful YouTube channel called Ariel
in Paris where she shares the best
places in Paris and she also offers
travel consultations to make a
personalized itinerary for your trip to
Paris so let's go and meet Arian now
hi hi good to see you hi good to meet
you you're so tall yeah well I'm
Dutch wow so welcome yeah to the biggest
covered Market in Paris it opened in
1850 1850 yes okay so it's almost 2
years old 175 but the reason I wanted to
bring you here is because normally my
favorite chocolate here has a stand here
yeah who is the oldest chocolate here in
Paris not him but the
M um so I'll show you unfortunate cloes
but I think it's fun to see okay yeah so
I've never actually eaten here but I
would really yeah I love it like they
have tons of restaurants it's similar to
the
m oh I know that yeah yeah so normally
he's there with his stand it's so sad
okay so the name is
f and I discovered them like probably a
year ago he actually normally his
Boutique is in the tent like right
outside okay um and it's a Miz cha
that's been open for 297 years which is
the oldest in Paris wow um but with the
pandemic he went through a lot of
financial hardship he had to close his
Boutique and so he opened here in the
mar and he opens sporadically like three
days out of the week very French yeah
and you can find the opening hours
online yeah on Instagram okay um yeah
his chocolate is the best in Paris the G
are so good but so actually what you're
saying is we need to come back tomorrow
and hope that he's open I said him a
message I was like a are you open I need
to bring someone to see you and we'll
have to find another then yes yeah do
you have any ideas yes I just oh my gosh
I'm going to follow you I found a really
nice on the street if I can find my way
back I think back where we came in yeah
so do that yeah and then we'll talk
about what gal is actually because
that's a very French thing
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so you just random away found this as
you walking exactly oh my God and I
thought this looks like a very
nice that you go first
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we need to explain what what the sket is
about it's a a Roman
tradition and they would put a they
would share a meal between the upper and
lower class they would put a bean in the
cake because the bean was symbolic of
spring and the Harvest and rebirth and
whoever got the piece of cake with the
fev in it they got to be king for the
day and they could order people around
have whatever they wanted whoever gets
the F gets to wear the crown
you probably didn't click on this video
to watch two girls eating a gallet DEA
so let's talk about how we have both
experienced moving to France and
building a life here Ariel is taking me
to the canal it was very windy this day
so the audio could have been better but
I'm hoping you find the things that
we're sharing here helpful I remember
when I first moved here this was the
place to come for night life for picnics
in the summer it's beautiful to really
just enjoy a little sandwich or a coffee
along here for a long time I would say
it was a little bit underdeveloped it
wasn't as hip and happening no because I
remember when I came to Paris when I
worked here 25 years ago it wasn't the
place to be it's very vibrant very
artistic and you have lots of bars
restaurants
Bakers a new take on Paris so it's like
the locals would come here for me why I
wanted to move here is I had this Vision
like I fell in love with the language I
fell in love with what I could see the
sparkling Eiffel Tower all these
romantic scenes set in Paris it
just I it pulls you in so I think you
have this mediatized France mediatized
Paris and then when you live here you
get to know like what's at the heart the
real yeah the real side of the culture
the people and my honest question was
yeah do I see Paris or France
differently being from Europe than you
being from North America I think so you
too I think so what was your version of
the romanticized Paris well not Paris
cuz I was drawn in France well it's
everything that annoys me today like the
admin system is so slow everything takes
long but I keep reminding myself it's
the same thing that Drew me here and
that is a slower pace of life because I
think because they have so many issues
because the most used word what I say
isli but because a lot of things just
aren't as smooth efficient and fast as
in the Netherlands but then that is
exactly what drew me here because what
I've seen is that the French have
developed this attitude
of yeah we can't change it anyway just
let's have a drink sit down and enjoy
life we do not have in the ne one
everything is so fast that you're so
used to getting things organized and
fixed yeah that you're not even able to
have any patience with anything that's
what Drew meh I I think it's very
similar but different from maybe Canada
North America is when I think of what
images I first saw Paris it's the B
strolling out with the baguette going
and sitting on a teras uh you know
sitting on the Shawn Mar and looking at
the Eiffel Tower like f is what you
would say in French and I think it's
that kind of version of a slow paced
idyllic lifestyle that we would see in
the media from Canada that was what
attracted me to France and to Paris as
well but different because you still
have like in the Netherlands at least in
the small years I've been or Europe in
general you do have the teras you do
have the local shops whereas you see
that as a European thing yeah I think so
because one of the things I think you're
officially not allowed to eat in your
car behind the wheel in France and I
don't see a lot of people maybe here in
Paris but where I live nobody's walking
with our coffee to go and so it's a
moment you take to sit down like
whenever there's food involved it's a
moment
I almost want to say yeah you said that
you were drawn to All Things French as a
kid I've been thinking about this yeah
and that you asked or that your parents
put you in a French speaking School in
Canada so how old were you then so young
maybe four or five see so I was
wondering what what attracts a
four-year-old in a culture of a country
she's probably never been to I don't
know I was just so it just sounded
beautiful to me I think so you grew up
bilingual friend English basically and
then at some point you decided to come
here when I was in um Middle School they
offered like an exchange a 3-we exchange
with the French family yeah and I begged
my parents to let me go and then you
moved here for your studies so how have
you found the real friends I would say
to be different the thing is I come from
Canada I come from Toronto I did my
studies in Ottawa like one of the
biggest differences I think I find is
that you have this need for urgency and
need for made everything everything
needs to be go right now so when you go
to the grocery store I remember this was
one of the hardest things not hardest I
don't want to say that but I came the
lines at the checkout no oh cuz I was
gonna say that like everybody's just
chilling and everybody like it takes too
long and we dressing well that I feel
like you get you get used to over time
it is definitely annoying but um I
remember I couldn't find Caesar salad
dressing for years and I was so annoyed
because I'm like what in Toronto I just
go and pick up the Caesar Sal dressing
it's in a bottle in the fridge for me or
chicken noodle soup it's in the fridge
pre-made and uh and then I was like well
why don't you just make it and so I
think that in France you don't have this
notion of right now I need this I want
everything pre-made you have more of a
slow down take your time make it with
quality products it's become kind of a
lifestyle really to take time for things
I actually really enjoy that like I said
waiting in the line at the checkout my
sons when we came here were very
surprised to have 2 hours for the lunch
break that would be 20 minutes in the
Netherlands but I think that's one of
the things we do love about France right
when I was working uh you know at an
office job I had 10 to 12 weeks of
vacation and not only did I have that
much vacation I was encouraged to take
that vacation the office closed in
August whereas when I think about the
work culture that I grew up with in
Canada and North America you might have
two or three weeks and you're not
encouraged wow it's impressive if you
don't take that because you're committed
and see so that is different with the
Netherlands because we have five weeks
six sometimes paid vacation I I always
work for American companies so I got the
strict minimum so that is not such a big
cultural difference I think I think the
biggest cultural difference that I have
experienced that that was a bit
difficult at the beginning it's just the
social norms like in the Netherlands
people tend to be pretty open they talk
to
everybody here I know somebody said this
on somebody else on YouTube I don't
remember who it was
that being polite in French in France
means that you're keeping the right
distance because if I don't know you yet
I'm not going to be like you and I we
see each other for the first time we go
like hi that the friends would go like
what are you doing and and and I every
time I meet a new person so it's always
like a guess what are we doing you know
or sometimes you get introduced to a
friend's friend you know you don't know
and they
if and then they go kiss you and you go
like oh oh so so what I find interesting
is that they do laa pretty easily yes
which I find way more intimate than a
hug but the hug to them is like what are
you doing so I think those social norms
it's something that I always tell the
people if you're coming here just please
do some research and to understand that
for a French person they're being polite
by not asking about your personal life
by not inviting you to their home by not
hugging you to them means they're
respectful towards you and in my culture
and I think especially in North American
culture that would be distant or rude
for me it was always very frustrating
with my friends at the start to really
get to that deeper level of a real
friendship I always felt like I was the
one reaching out first inviting people
over to my place and but for me the
easiest way is uh to join something to
join something where you are forced to
see people mult multiple times a week so
for me that was basketball I was forced
to see my teammates three times a week
two practices and one game and over the
course of time you know you go for a
drink after the game and then a drink
after a practice and you build the
relationship over time yeah but it
really has to be something I feel where
you sign up and everybody is forced to
take that break in their schedule my
Approach has been I will just be
respectful I know the code I would say
in in French culture I'll be open but
I'll let them take the first step and
I've noticed also that people are very
interested in my family because they see
we're Dutch even my boys and they had
friends very easily because they were
like oh here are these Dutch boys so
there's also a positive side to being
the Foreigner I think because people are
interested in where you're from but like
especially when we
are what why would you come move here
and so that was an easy way for me
actually to connect with people and and
make friends the real friends I made are
through the activities that are linked
to either my work or other things that I
do and I would say and I think you said
the same thing learn French my neighbors
actually I asked this question I said
but why why do you struggle so much with
speaking English what is the real issue
and he said we would love to invite you
but if we feel we need to speak English
it it just freaks us out so we rather
avoid it doesn't mean we're not
interested in you but it's so
interesting to have that
honest that honest answer that honest
like feedback it was helpful because it
also tells you like if you want to make
this a success and a lot of people that
are following you and me are thinking
about coming to France and just yeah
start with learning the language you
don't need to be fluent because they
relax as soon as you say
bonjour whatever your name is and you
maybe try to get out a few sentences but
then they relax instantly because they
feel that you're try is what I've
noticed but then again you were fluent
when you came I was fluent when we came
so you're able to have a real
conversation about real things because
the friends love to talk about
everything like on a very deep I love
that because I like that they can have a
real honest conversation and disagree on
things I love that actually have strong
opinions how have you yeah how have you
experienced
that uh I would say definitely I think
it's again it's hard I'm thinking like
what would I have done if I didn't speak
the language you know how would I have
made it work but it's true like that is
the key to having those conversations
um and not just like of course if you're
moving here it's important to learn but
then I think of you know the chefs that
I've met that I've interviewed the store
owners that I met to be able to hear
their stories and understand them and
have those those strong conversation and
moments it's yeah is so it's so like
language is the key to culture you know
so the other thing I wanted to talk
about that you're a business owner I'm a
business owner I see huge differences
because I think a lot of people that
want to move to France one of the things
is how we going to make money yeah and I
think salaries are very low outside of
Paris I think it's very fulfilling to be
able to start a business but I do think
there are some Logistics to think about
for example renting buying you need to
have a CD yeah CD is a contract yes an
indeterminate a permanent contract an
employment contract yes exactly so if
you want to get housing you usually need
a couple of things that you usually
don't have yeah because like you
probably need an address first before
you can get your employment contract
right yes the C thing yeah so to go back
to the entrepreneurial thing I find
friends I don't want to be I didn't want
this video to be negative in any sense
because ah and then it would just be a a
proof that we've become very French
because as we
say which means they complain and this
probably is something about the culture
that you would also need to understand
when you come here the French just love
to complain because it is actually part
of the the culture I think the
Revolutionary this probably to me was
the biggest thing that I did not expect
about France because we have this
picture of they enjoy life and they take
time so you see them as people that are
positive and but then you come here and
actually the French are very pessimistic
they don't have the necessarily every
day in their in their energy and I did
not expect that and do you feel like
that changed you it does I was just
saying that to my French friend I said
actually I've become more negative so
I'm really working on myself on staying
the optimistic joyful person that I was
because you just you get infected almost
by the energy you start taking on that
that same Vibe but nonetheless it would
not make me leave France for that reason
but it is something to be to be mindful
of I think but the what I so if I can
allow myself to
is that when I started my business here
I was so shocked with how different the
government is here
towards your initiative of trying to
make money for this country or your
initiative to make something Thrive so
the the the the what's the word the tone
in every communication that you receive
here is now that you've started your
business you need to do this otherwise
you get a fine it's it's like in the
Netherlands it's like hey
congratulations started your business
wow let make you as successful as you
can be it's one of the biggest shocking
things to me you live in a Perpetual
state of anxiety because you're like
what document am I missing what have I
forgotten to renew like always and I
remember my first year starting my
business because mine is my business is
fairly new I must have blacked it out
because it was so traumatic like it was
a year of very being very stressful
because like if you make a mistake you
have to pay again and file all the
paperwork again and so very quickly it's
timec consuming and cost so it's hard to
understand the system for sure um well
I've been here six years and I have a
very good french accountant yes I still
don't get it she goes I know and then
she says but it changes every year so
and then for somebody with a lot of
experience in business that's
frustrating because I think you know I
kind of know how things work and that I
don't think that's the same in North
America either which be like they want
you to thrive they want you to make
mistakes they and here in France I think
it's both in in that area but I see it
in school with my boys as well like
making a mistake is like the biggest sin
I think it's I think it's empathy I
think there's a little bit less empathy
for human error human mistakes whereas
in Canada it's people are generally much
more patient I I remember even when I
was applying for my visas it was
Insanity like similar to the business
everything had to be the original copy
nothing could be transmitted via email
via PDF like it was so much work whereas
less lenient I think is what I I'm
thinking yeah what would we want to tell
people you come to France and your life
will be great which it will be great it
will be great but it doesn't
miraculously solve all your problems it
actually adds a few problems like I said
with entrepreneurship like I really
struggle with understanding how it works
and you're coming from the just yes you
imagine visas no I don't yeah I have a
couple of friends that are trying yeah
and that's ridiculous actually thinking
because I'm from the European Union I
can come even without speaking French I
can just come buy a house and move here
so why talk a little bit about that then
uh my very first Visa it was a very
complicated process it was before
technology so that's when I was sending
in like I was having to do everything
the original copies I I don't I don't
want to lie it was very hard to get all
the documents together and to meet
deadlines but in the end
I kind of want to say nothing good comes
easy yeah so even if it does take work
even if it's very stressful if it you
know if there's moments where you feel
like it's very challenging in the end
you know if you persevere it'll it'll be
worth it like yeah I would I would never
regret having moved here I would never
regret the months I spent doing
paperwork um and you would have hard
things in the Netherlands I would have
hard things in Canada sometimes honestly
despair I go like I don't know if I can
deal with this any longer I want I came
here for a quieter life yeah and I did
not
expect that so many little things would
be so so much harder quite
honestly but then I try to say to myself
yeah but really if you go back to the
Netherlands there are also hard things
so we shouldn't forget that you know
even though we struggle here we struggle
everywhere you always take yourself
everywhere you go you always take your
personal struggles everywhere you go and
I would not go back would
you no I don't I don't want to say that
because my mom will it'll break her
heart but oh yeah uh no I I love what I
built here and there's so many beautiful
things about living here that I wouldn't
want to give that up I think it gets
even better when you dig deeper and you
get to know people and you get to know
the richness of the culture exactly it's
like a it's like an iceberg that's what
I wanted to say you know you have what
you see on the outside and there's and
then when they let you into the culture
you start understanding you also start
seeing why things that seemed a bit odd
initially are actually good thing like
respecting the other person and so we're
going to say to you if you want to move
to France we
survived we're thriving we're thriving
so by all means come here but be
prepared that would be the bottom line I
think learn French don't assume things
are the same in your country or in your
culture be very open to learn say
bonjour
it's a good start and learn French and I
would say be patient and not everything
is the end of the world you know you
make a mistake give it time yeah you
need time to learn to adapt
ah you can see like as we're filming
there are people who are FL along the
canal that is yeah because so many
people are just walking here and
enjoying enjoying a lot we should go
enjoy a good french lunch what do you
say I would love that okay do
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it thank you so much Ariel for sharing
all of your experience in this video and
for the lovely morning that we spent
together
if you don't follow Ariel yet I highly
recommend you do her channel is called
Ariel in Paris and I've left a link in
the description thanks for watching and
I will see you next week with a new
video