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Welcome to the NASA series Exploring the Moon, where we take a behind-the-scenes look at the
preparations for humanity's return to the moon. In order to take these samples on the moon,
you need something to pick up the sample with. The spacesuit, you can't just walk around and
pick things up by hand, so that's why we make geology tools to help you collect the samples.
Two other tools, some of my favorites as geologists, right, the rock hammer and we have a chisel.
All right, and we've got a good clean chip sample right here.
Hi, I'm Stephanie Cipola, and in today's episode, we have the pleasure of meeting with Holly Newton,
a lunar tools expert. Welcome, Holly. Thanks for being here. Hey, Stephanie. I'm glad I could be
here. All right, so let's talk tools. We have geology tools here. You've brought a lot with you
today. Why do we even need geology tools? What's the point for the Artemis missions?
So, the intent of Artemis is to go back to the moon and take geology samples and then bring them
back to Earth for scientists to study, and then they can learn more about the moon, figure out
what resources are on the moon. If we want to build a lunar habitat, what resources can we use?
And in order to take these samples on the moon, you need something to pick up the sample with.
The spacesuit, you can't just walk around and pick things up by hand, so that's why we make
geology tools to help you collect the samples, and we work with scientists to help figure out
how do we not contaminate the sample and keep that sample integrity as we're taking it and
bringing it back to Earth. So, we've been to the moon. Apollo went to the moon. They did geology
tools. Are you doing new tools for Artemis? Are they the same? So, yes, we are doing new tools. So,
during Apollo, they actually did not have the same tools throughout all the Apollo missions.
As they learned more about the moon and figured out how to take samples, how to maneuver in their
spacesuit on the moon, they would change the tools to make it easier for the astronauts.
So, when we were looking at what do we need for Artemis, we first looked at the last Apollo
mission and figured out what worked well, what types of samples did they take, and what maybe
could be improved on. So, one of the things we look at that's different is manufacturing
techniques. There's been a lot of growth in that area since the Apollo days. So, we look at, for
example, on the table here, the tongs right there is an Apollo tongs. You can see on the top of that
there's these little tines, and they're all individually connected. So, for Artemis, we
tried to look at how can we make that simpler. So, the head of this tool, it can be made out of one
piece of metal. It's easier, simpler, and more cost effective. Oh, nice. Okay. So, that's one thing we
look at. We also look at the environment. Okay. What's different between the Apollo environment
and the Artemis environment? So, Artemis is going to a different location on the moon than Apollo.
They're going to the lunar poles, and at the poles, it gets really, really cold, especially in
the areas that aren't lit by sunlight at all. They get exceptionally cold. So, we have to think
about that with the tools. How do we make a tool that can withstand the cold, and how can we
preserve the samples? So, in some of those areas, there are these things called volatiles, and it's
this chemical that is in a frozen state in the sample, and if you heat it up, it's going to
quickly turn into a gas and evaporate away. So, we want to keep it in that solid state so that we can
analyze it when it comes back to Earth. So, we have to think about temperature a lot. Okay. So, does the
temperature affect the design of the tools? Yes, absolutely. Yep, it affects what materials we pick
and what containers we use to store the samples. Okay. Do you have any containers today? I do. I
do. Let's look at those. So, one of them is a sample bag. Okay. So, this is the type of bag that you would just put a
rock sample, or if you took a scoop of soil, you would put it in here. Yep, so that's an Apollo
scoop, so you can see the difference between the Artemis one is a lot bigger, so we can take a
bigger sample. Look at that, and heavier. Yeah, that's kind of the consequence of being bigger.
Okay, and it also has a whole hinge right here. What's this all about? Yeah, so this is... I'll let you
show me. Yeah, this is a way to help us help the astronaut angle the scoop in a way that's more
convenient for them. So, you can press this button and change the angle so it's easier to scoop up a
rock and put it in your sample bag. Okay, and then why would you need so many sample bags? Can't you
just put them all together? So, to put them all together, it would, one, be a very heavy bag. It
could rip through the material, and you could also have issues storing it and contaminating things.
It's easier for the scientists to be able to say, I'm going to pick up this sample from this location,
so that's another thing. If you took two completely different samples from... this one was from a boulder
on this side, and this was miles away, you aren't going to be able to compare where the sample was,
and so the scientists really want them separated, so it's just easier to analyze. Okay, that makes
sense. So, when you're doing samples, you have the bags that you take them home in, but you have
all these different shaped tools here. So, why do you need so many different types of tools? Each tool
has a different purpose of what type of sample it's supposed to take. So, the tongs here takes
float samples, so those are like loose rocks that are just sitting on the surface of the moon. The
scoop tool can take a big scoop of soil and just loose soil. We have also a hammer and a chisel.
That's a serious tool. It is a serious tool. And so, you can use the hammer for taking chip
samples. So, if you have like a really big boulder, you can't take the whole boulder home. It's not
possible. Right. So, we would hammer it and get a small chip of it and then take that home with us.
Okay. And then the other one you could use is, this is a rake, and you can use it to get small pebbles
out of dirt. So, you would kind of scoop it up, shake it around to get the loose stuff out. And
then just take home the bigger rocks. Exactly. It didn't fall through your rake. Okay. And I
noticed that in that one, when you had it in your hand, it has the same mechanism.
Is that coincidental or is that intentional? No, it's intentional because it helps you to
angle it in different ways because every astronaut has a different preference of what's easier to
hold. There's different techniques. So, like with the scoop, one of the techniques for sampling is
to make a trench so you can dig a little deeper and get a deeper soil sample. And so, sometimes
you have to angle it in different ways. And so, the mechanism is the same. Okay. Just to make it
easier and for dust reasons. So, on the moon, there is a lot of dust. So, the top layer of soil,
it's very fine. It's like powdered sugar, but it's also very sharp because there's no erosion on the
shards of glass. Exactly. Right. And so, we have to think about when we're designing mechanisms,
how do we make it so it's not going to bind up or break the tool and then make it difficult to
take samples later. Nice. So, what is this you have on your lap? So, this is the last type of
sample I haven't mentioned. This is a drive tube and the intent is to take a core sample. So, what
you do is you use your hammer and you drive it all the way into the ground. And then, when you
pull it back up, you get this layered piece of different geology at different depths. And this
is where, this is one of the prime places where we might find volatiles that could evaporate if we
heat it up. So, we want to be very careful with this type of sample and to keep it cold. So, how would
you take home a core sample? Do the astronauts have to pull that core of soil out of this tool?
No, that's a great question. So, the curation team on the ground will do that. So, they will
put it in the ground, pull it back up, and this is actually designed so it kind of keeps the soil
in there. They'll put a cap on it and then put it into another container to kind of keep it,
keep it cold and keep it all contained to bring back to Earth. And then, the scientists have a
special tool that pushes the sample out so they can see what the different layers are.
So, do the astronauts have to store the samples in a cooler of sorts? Because you're talking about
the temperatures and the volatiles. It seems really important. Yeah, that is one thing that
is being looked at because in some cases, like maybe not every sample we need to keep all the
volatiles from, but there might be some that you want to. So, that's definitely being looked at.
Are there containers to keep it cold? Do we just need pressurized containers to keep the gas in?
Because another problem with gas is not just losing that part of the sample, but it's also
could be toxic. If you release a lot of gas in the cabin with the astronauts,
depending on if it's ammonia or some other chemical, it might, it's not very good for
their health. So, we try and keep them safe. We definitely want our astronauts to come home safe,
right? Yep, absolutely. Okay, so you have one other tool over there, the red hammer looking
thing. What's that? So, this is actually, this is actually a tool just from a hardware store.
This is what we would use on earth as a hammer, and there are some differences. So, something I
get asked a lot is why couldn't we just bring this to the moon? I was just going to ask you
that. Why can't you go to the hardware store and take the same tool? Yeah, so there's a lot of
different factors that go into designing a tool. So, first is materials. So, there's a couple
different reasons for that. There, you can see here, this is like a rubber hammer. Yeah, nice
grip surface. I have that in my garage. So, the cold environment of the moon, this is going to
become brittle and break, and your tool is going to fall apart. Okay. And, depending on the type
of metal, it also might become brittle and break, or it might deform and not actually do the job of
chipping a rock sample. So, that's one thing, and we also look at contamination. Okay. So,
we work with scientists to figure out how do we maintain sample integrity, and you have to touch
the sample with something. You can't pick it up out of thin air. Sure. And so, we work with the
scientists to figure out what materials do we not expect to find on the moon, so that if they see in
the sample afterwards, they see, oh, there's this metal shaving, they can say, that was picked up
with this tool, and I know it was this material, so we must have brought that with us. Instead of
finding that material on the moon. Exactly. Oh, that's really important. I can see that. Okay.
So, yeah. So, materials are one thing. Also, designing a tool to be compatible with a
space suit. So, and a glove. Oh, yeah, you brought gloves today. Yeah. All right, let's check them out.
So, these gloves, these are unpressurized gloves, but if you put it on, you can already tell. Oh,
you can already tell that this is like wearing a winter glove. It's pretty bulky,
and when it's pressurized, it's even bulkier. It's like wearing a balloon on your hand. Right. So,
every time you move your hand, you're working because you're wearing this bulky glove,
but then how does the pressure play in with your hand? So, when you're moving against pressure,
so it's like you have to put force into closing your hand, it's like squeezing a stress ball.
Oh, goodness. Okay. So, this tool has a really thin diameter. If you have to grip this really
tightly for like a six-hour spacewalk, that's going to get really tiring really quickly,
and we want to make sure we don't tire out the astronauts because they can do more. They can
collect more samples. They can walk further if we don't wear them out. Sure, sure. So,
we have to think about is there an easy way to hold things. Okay. The tongs here for Artemis,
you can see, so if I put it in my hand that doesn't have the tool, it looks pretty big.
It does look oversized, right. But as soon as I put it in a gloved hand,
it's got this, it fits pretty nicely. You've consumed the whole space where the fingers go
through in your design. Yeah, and also what I can do is I can leave my hand open and still
maintain control of the tool without having to squeeze it closed. Did they do that in Apollo 2?
Oh, no. If I leave my hand open, the tool will fall right out of it.
Yeah, so we're constantly looking at when designing tools, how can we make it easier
for an astronaut? Well, and now that you've said that, looking back at the, what are these,
the scoops that we looked at earlier, I can see that the new scoop, your Artemis scoop,
it has a bigger handle than this one. This is a much skinnier cylinder. Now, what about the shape?
Yours isn't a cylinder handle anymore. Is that significant? This is actually a shape that we
used from an existing International Space Station tool that astronauts just liked the shape. It was
easy to use in a gloved hand. And then we added this part on the back to kind of help brace your
hand against it and just make it easier. Nice. And then to make it even easier, so these are
kind of small. So if they have to bend, they have to really like bend down or get on their knees to
take a sample with this. We made a tool called an extension handle, which they also used in Apollo,
and basically just adds length to this so that they could take a sample while they're standing up.
Is that what that little button is on the end? Yeah, that's to interface with the extension handle.
Nice. Okay. I was recently in the rock yard with astronaut Zena Cardman where we were working with
these different lunar tools. I would really love to see that video. Let's show it. Hey, Holly,
I'm Trevor Graff, a geologist here at the Johnson Space Center and part of the Artemis science team.
I have a great privilege to be out here with astronaut Zena Cardman. So what I thought would
be interesting and fun to do today is to step through some of the sampling procedures. So if
you're game, let's do it. Absolutely. Let's go for it. We have a couple of rocks here. Some that are
like the moon. So we have a dark one that's kind of like the mare side of the moon or that dark
area that you see when you look up at the moon in the sky. And then a lighter rock that's like the
lunar highlands. And so this is like the South Pole where we expect to go with the Artemis
mission. And so I say we go after a sampling procedure on that white one. All right, let's do
it. All right. So as you know, this would be attached to your suit. And so you want to talk
through some of those things that would be attached to your suit and what their use is?
Yeah. So it's great to be able to be a little bit hands-free when you're working in a pressurized
space suit. It's actually a lot more difficult than just being in shirt sleeves. And so you
really have to have access to everything that you need, much like you would be wearing a tool belt
for doing any kind of project here on Earth as well. So we have these fittings where you can
actually take the tools on and off and place them either elsewhere on your tool belt or actually on
this tool cart. Awesome. And this is one of the other things that would be attached to your suit
or somewhere that is proximity for easy access. You want to talk a little bit about the sample
marker? Yeah, sure. So this is a sample marker, which is in some ways self-explanatory, but it's
actually got a lot of really great features. So this one, we'll call it sample marker tango. I
would pull this out and place it next to my sample of interest. We've got this nice arrow that we can
use to point at whichever part of the sample we're taking. It's on this long handle because when
you're in the suit, it's pressurized and your mobility is restricted. So you don't have quite
the same ability to kneel down and bend over that you do when you're just like you and I are here
today. And so that handle helps you not have to bend over quite so far. We've also got this here,
which helps us calibrate the colors and the light of the imagery that we're taking. And that's
actually a really important part of the data that we're getting from these images. And it serves as
a scale bar as well. So lots of different uses for the sample marker. So here, we'll place
sample marker tango next to our sample. Awesome. So sample marker tango, like you said, is super
important for geology and for capturing that context with the scale and the sample marker,
and then capturing the photos as well. So if you want to go ahead and take pictures of
sample tango. Yep. Absolutely. Yeah. And so coming up to this sample, of course, like Trevor has
taught me well, we would be taking lots of imagery of the context as we're approaching
the sample. What's around the sample is really important as well. And then you'll notice I'm
taking or pretending to take photos, not holding it up to my eye like you normally would, but down
here and away from me. And this is because I have in a real space suit, I would have a big
visor bubble. And so I can't actually get the camera close to my eye. But trying to get images
from multiple angles really helps to capture every different side of this sample. We can
actually recreate some stereo imagery if you have images from different angles, and then
backing away to get a little more context and closer in to get a little more detail.
Awesome. Scientists and me loves to see that type of context because those pictures are almost as
important as the sample itself. So great job. And that's the type of thing that we've been
practicing at the NBL as well. Yes, absolutely. So we have two other tools. Some of my favorites
as geologists, right, the rock hammer, and we have a chisel. And so this hammer is a little bit
heavier for the 1.6g of the lunar surface. And the chisel helps us while we're in that pressurized
suit, put the force where it needs to be a little bit easier. Absolutely. So let's get on our safety
goggles. That's a great idea. And I can hand you the hammer and chisel. And practice taking a piece
of that, what I would call, is a breccia analog that we're using out here today. This is a piece
of concrete, but it's very much like what we might find at the South Pole with a piece of rocks,
you know, a bunch of little pieces of rocks that are welded together,
a lot like what we found at Apollo 16 landings. Yeah, right on. All right.
So when you're in a spacesuit, it's really important to remember, number one, you don't
want to hit your own visor. But number two, it's actually really hard to get a good big swing with
your arm. And so a trick that I learned from Trevor is that using chisels is really helpful.
So we'll actually be using the chisel and then hammering the chisel itself.
All right. And we've got a good, clean chip sample right here.
If I was also your EVA partner, or that's where we'd want another photo of that chip sample. So
you bet. Yeah. Part of the procedure is to get as many photos of that process as possible.
Yeah, the exposed edge of this sample that we broke off is really nice to capture as well.
All right, so, you know, we changed locations here. Now we're more in a sandy area. So
similar to maybe what we were at the bottom of the MEO, a lot of sand,
more representative of that fine grained regolith we'll expect to find on the moon,
like we saw at the Apollo sites. I thought it'd be neat to do some other tool testing here,
starting with the rake. Okay. So the rake here, as you know, is meant to get rid of that fine
grain stuff, but accumulate that more gravel or smaller size fraction samples. And so if you want
to join that to the extension handle, we can give that a go here in this regolith.
So similar to when we did the end to end sampling with the rock chip, with the rock hammer,
we would do all that type of same thing with the cameras and the sample marker. But just
for expediency here, let's go ahead and take the rake sample. All right. This looks like a great
spot. Got a couple of different sizes, textures here, kind of trying to get rid of the finer
grain stuff. Got a little bit of larger grains left in our sample here. Awesome. Okay. Go ahead
and stow that in the bag. So you can see how that segregates out those smaller pieces that we can
then go ahead and age date. It might have unique minerals or tell us a unique scientific story
about the moon. So the first step in the drive tube is again, all that sampling and pitchers,
pre-sampling pitchers that you take and talking to the science team about that.
But then you uncap one of your drive tubes. These are 35 centimeter drive tubes to get you
about 35 centimeters below the surface. And you can actually double that up and get twice as deep
if that's the request. Like you're doing now, you take that extension handle, it's needed for this
procedure and go ahead and attach it like you are for that 35 centimeter drive tube.
So one of the things that's really important here, as we always talk about is contamination
control of making sure that that tube, you know, doesn't get touched as much as possible,
because we're going after the volatiles, those really precious volatiles that we want to learn
about on the South pole of the moon. And so we're trying to keep contamination off of that. So
fantastic training of keeping gloved hands off of that. And then you pick your location for the
drive tube. Okay. Get it started a little bit into the surface. And this is where one of your,
again, multifunctional tools comes in. I'll give you your safety glasses.
Stand off of there a little bit. Thanks, Trevor.
And so you can use a number of different sides on the rock hammer. And so this is a place where a
lot of people like using the side of the rock hammer or the front face of the rock hammer.
And you're going to go ahead and strike that a number of times to get
the drive tube all the way down to that 35 centimeter mark.
Just like you mentioned, I've found it really, especially when you're tired and you've been
working in this pressurized suit for a long time. It's actually really nice to have that
broad side of the hammer. Okay. Awesome. It's looking pretty good. About the same number of
strikes that it took on Apollo to get the drive tube into the surface. Again, you would take that
picture. So lots of context pictures and stuff like that. And then the next step is to extract
it. Okay. So now everything's retained inside that drive tube. It keeps the stratigraphy of
the subsurface. And we'll go ahead and cap it. So that helps either further retain that material.
So there's a cap dispenser conveniently located on your easel.
And then we'll go ahead and put it in one of these representative containers. The actual
flight containers would be a lot more higher fidelity and be able to hold the pressure
that might be in those volatiles all the way back to when we get them to the lab.
I see you've already taken out the pin, the retaining pin,
and we can go ahead and remove the extension handle.
And then a unique feature of these drive tubes is be able to either further retain that material in
there. So there's a rod that helps press a little keeper in the drive tube that goes down and makes
contact with the top of the material. So that whenever we have the launch and return loads
back from the moon, we keep that stratigraphy so the scientists can get the most unique stratigraphy
as it was preserved on the moon. That makes sense. Keeping it from getting all shaken up.
Cool. All right. It looks like you press that all the way forward. And then the final thing
is to cap it. And again, with those higher fidelity containers, that'll become an even
more detailed procedure. Perfect. That makes sense. Great job. And you see, just like on the moon,
the hole retains its perfect shape. So we take photos of that. And, you know, there's a lot
of science even to be had with the geotechnical properties of how the lunar surface behaves.
Absolutely. All right. That wraps it up here at the Rockyard. It's been a great day out here with
the tools and being able to go through some of the procedures, but absolutely being great out
here with Xena and stepping through some of this process with me. Always great to work with you,
Trevor. Thank you so much for walking me through this process. Can't wait to use these tools for
real on the moon. So we've collected all these samples. You've brought it back to the lander.
What's next? So then at the lander, you put in a storage container to keep it safe on the ride
back to Earth because there's a lot of vibrations of the vehicle and that could break apart the
samples. And temperature changes too. Yeah, absolutely. And pressure changes actually from
the outside lunar surface into a pressurized cabin. So we put it in a container to store it and keep
it safe when we bring it back to Earth. All of the tools, so the only things that come in that
container are things that are storing samples, like the sample bag or the drive tube that has
that big core sample in it. And all of the rest of the tools take a one-way trip to the moon. They
do? Yep. They all go to the moon and they stay there forever? Yep, they just stay there. Well,
do we use them when we go back for the next mission? Well, we're not going back to the same
locations necessarily every time. Oh, because the science is more interesting when you go to a
different destination for each landing. Yes, exactly. What about the Artemis samples? Where
are they going? So we work with the curation lab to figure out how they're going to analyze
these samples. That's how we come up with the different containment methods. Okay. And so they
will go to that curation lab where they will take them out of their containers and analyze them,
compare the photography that was taken of the sample, and kind of figure out different information
from it. Holly, thank you so much for being here today and sharing with us
your insider look at lunar tools. Thanks for having me. I love talking about tools.