Is There a Need for the Pistol Caliber Carbine?
23 Video Views·Dec 22, 2024
Hickok 45 here. Is there really any need for a fake rifle like this?
I don't know. What do you think, cowboy?
How about Clyde? What's he think?
He doesn't like it, actually.
What about that tombstone down there?
So, it's empty. But this is a pistol caliber carbine. And that's the question I wanted to
address briefly today. Is there really a need for something like this, right? Because, you know,
carbine, rifle, you could have a real firearm with something this size and maybe for the same price.
You could have something that fires maybe .308, .556, .30-30. I don't know. Name your rifle
cartridge. But yet, people, some people, waste their money. They buy something like this that
fires a pistol caliber, you know, a cartridge. We say pistol caliber. What we really mean is
pistol cartridge, don't we? Maybe that's what it stands for, pistol cartridge carbine. I think it's
pistol caliber. But we're talking pistol cartridge, actually. Because caliber, you know,
.45 to .45. So, yeah, I'll just talk about that briefly if you have time to listen, right?
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And I appreciate you all mostly coming to watch and, you know, hear whatever I have to say,
which ain't much. So, yeah, pistol caliber carbines, kind of what they're called. If
you're not that familiar with them yet, and I'll link to a video we did on the difference and
showed you a bunch of bullets and what are chambered and various things and all that.
Don't let me forget to link to that in the description and maybe a pinned comment.
But today I just wanted to, again, remind people who may not know and people who hate these things
and think there's just no use for it. It just makes no sense because you have seen a lot of
those comments just like I have. There's probably articles written on it online and elsewhere
offline. You know, I'm going to buy a gun like this. Go ahead and get a gun, you know. Here's a
556, you know, a big 25-round mag and a real rifle. You could get it in .308 and, you know,
not much bigger. Adjustable stock and everything. Handy. About the same weight and all that. So,
you could have a real rifle. But yet, here you go. Here I go. I've done it. Wasting my dollars
on something like this that fires some puny little round like this, 9mm. Now, why would
anybody do that? Makes no sense. Now, this one does fire a 10mm round, the LC carbine. But,
you know, they come in .45 ACP and all kinds of chamberings, right? Why would anyone do that?
Well, it's not necessarily a new thing, is it? Think back 150 years. Most of you are that old,
right? I remember quite well when the first pistol caliber carbines came out. One of them
was called a Henry. One was called the 1873 Winchester. The 1866 Winchester. The 1892
Winchester. Oh, those are some pretty popular pistol caliber rifles in carbines. Well, I mean,
I jest. I joke a little bit. But that's really what they were, right? They fired a pistol round,
essentially. There were some others. Well, Marlin, the 1894 model, still popular. Pistol round,
.45 Colt, .44-40. You know, 38 various chamberings that were pistol power,
what I'm getting at. There's some chamberings I couldn't even recall right now
that are not as popular now. But they're basically handgun rounds. .44-40 is basically a handgun
round, really. So anyway, it's not a new concept. And we like those guns. They're really popular,
aren't they? Cowboy action shooting, that's all you fire. The rifle you're firing in a cowboy
action match, it's firing a pistol round, right? You're not out there with a .45-70, not in the
main match, at least. And just fun to shoot, and actually useful. Actually useful. I also want to
thank Alabama Holster for their support of the channel. Nice little Kydex holsters, waist holsters,
pocket holsters, phone holsters, purse holsters, all sorts of things. So appreciate their support.
And it comes in various calibers, these things do. Here's one in nine millimeter.
And if you don't think they're fun, and that is one of the main reasons I'm going to throw at you
for owning a pistol caliber carbine. You don't have to be a competitor. Now this one is a JP5.
It happens to be popular in the competition world. But you don't have to be a competitor.
They are just a lot of fun to shoot. Like Clyde even likes this one.
He likes the fact that I can put a lot of bullets on him pretty fast.
Yeah, doesn't that look like fun?
So pistol caliber carbine, being more serious, there are reasons you might need one.
There's a need for it if you're competing in a lot of types of matches. You cannot use a full power
like cowboy action shooting. And I'm not sure about some of the three gun matches. I think they
have different classifications for an actual rifle round and also for a pistol caliber carbine.
So those are huge sports, you know, adventures and endeavors. So yeah, you might need one if you're
going to play those games and enjoy those games, right? Because you can shoot targets like I'm doing
that you can shoot with a handgun. I can't stand here and shoot that steel right here close with an
AR-15. Just can't do that, right? Not feasible. More expensive and all that sort of thing. So with
a pistol caliber carbine though, you get sometimes lighter weight. Doesn't have to be built as heavy.
You get less recoil generally with a pistol round, right? Less expensive to shoot,
more pleasant to shoot, not as much blast, noise and recoil and all that sort of thing. And if
you're someone who is kind of recoil sensitive, again, we won't get into like who that might be.
Maybe you're a smaller frame person. You just don't like recoil. You would like to have something
like this as a home defense firearm. You know, works out well, right? It's lighter. It's not
going to recoil as much and they can be extremely reliable. So there's really a place for them.
Like Neve, when I say, is there a need? My answer is, well, need's relative, right? I think there
is a need because we want to have our fun. And then also, like I said, you may not want that
recoil and that blast, you know, as a defensive firearm. And once you put a pistol round,
even a nine millimeter, this one is 10 millimeter and I've got one at 45 and you're getting more
velocity generally, depending on the actual loading of that particular bullet. Sometimes
a longer barrel doesn't take full advantage of a pistol round maybe, but then many do.
So you're getting more velocity. So you are getting something that turns into
somewhere between a pistol round maybe and a rifle round in terms of velocity and power factor
and all that kind of thing. But yeah, I think there is a need. I think they're one of the
most enjoyable things that I shoot. And I shoot a lot of different firearms. And my 1894 Marlins,
my 1873s, my lever guns, and then these firearms. I have several pistol caliber carbines and many
of you do as well. They're just extremely popular. So if you think there's no need for them,
you might be right in a larger sense of that term, but they're certainly a lot of fun.
And if you're going to involve yourself in different types of shooting, if you're going
to the range where you have targets that are not that far away and there's steel and whatever
the case might be, that you would like to shoot with a shoulder firearm, yeah, there's a need.
So anyway, that's my little two cents worth just to promote pistol caliber carbines. If you don't
have one, if you have kids or you're trying to get your spouse involved in shooting or whatever,
and they're just a little lukewarm on it perhaps, I guarantee you put in, wouldn't have to be one
this nice, but you put a nine millimeter carbine in their hands and with a sight that they can see
or that they like, I guarantee you they're going to be more interested in shooting. That's just my
take. So anyway, if you don't have one, I don't know what's wrong with you. Might be something
you want to consider. So glad you came around today and we're going to shoot some more after
you leave, but please leave. Life is good. Oh yeah, that's better. This is a great gun for defense.
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