DON'T PAY CASH AT CAR DEALERSHIPS! (Here's Why)
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You should NEVER pay cash at a car dealership if you want the best deal! This video explains why...
Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Whiteboard Finance. My name is Marko, and I'm here to
help you master your money and build your wealth. In today's video, we're going to be
talking about how you should never tell a car dealer that you are paying cash, especially
during the sales process, and especially during the negotiation process. If you've saved up
money to buy a car with cash, congratulations, that is a good thing. However, most people
think that this is a positive thing, and it's a negotiating chip in their favor, when in
fact, it's probably hurting them, making them pay more for the cost of the car. Dealerships
in today's business model are not incentivized in any way for you to pay cash for their cars,
and it actually may result in you paying more for the car. In this video, we're going to
talk about how the modern car dealership business model works. We're going to talk about how
to actually buy with cash from a car dealer. Finally, I'm going to talk to you about how
I personally buy cars with cash and other options outside of the dealership model. Stay
tuned. Okay, so let's try to better understand how a modern car dealership business model
actually works and operates. New car sales account for 58% of sales at a dealership.
When most people think of car dealerships, they think that they make a majority of their
money on the sale or the price of the car, which couldn't be further from the truth.
Although new car sales make up 58% of sales, it only accounts for 26% of gross profit.
The reason for that is because pricing is transparent now. People have phones, they
have apps, they have the internet. You can find out what the price of a car is in roughly
five to 10 minutes if you just do some preliminary research. It's not that hard. So car dealers
need to make money elsewhere. So what do they do? They make a majority of their profits
from F&I, accessories, service, fees, and parts. These are the major profit centers
of a dealership. So the car, think of it literally as a vehicle, no pun intended. Well, pun intended,
it's the whole point of the video. The car is simply a vehicle to get you into high margin
finance and insurance products. That's what F&I stands for. Those are the guys in the
back that do your paperwork. So F&I is simply where they sell you gap insurance, wheel insurance,
extended warranties, protection packages, et cetera, et cetera. And the funny thing
is is that 55% of these extended warranties, according to extensive research, shows that
these extended warranties are never used. So you're paying for a product that you end
up not utilizing. So if I was a casino and I had a 5% house edge right here at 55%, I
would be salivating at those numbers. So the next slide, now that you understand how the
business model works and where they make their money from, is going to actually teach you
how to go through the sales process and how to actually buy a car with cash.
Okay, so this is the part that you've all been waiting for. So how to buy a car with
cash from a dealership. So there's only four factors that go into a car deal. You have
the price of the car that you're interested in. You have your trade in. If you're going
to trade in a car, if you're not, then you can get rid of that factor. You have a down
payment. So this is the money that you're putting down. In this case, if you're a cash
buyer, that is 100% down. If you're putting down less, you're going to get some payments
thrown at you. Okay? This is pretty much what every car sale boils down to, these
four factors. So let me take you through a very quick example of a sales process. We've
all been through it. Mr. and Mrs. Carbuyer, you come to the dealership, you're greeted
by a salesman. Hey, I'm Marco with No Lube Chevrolet, where we service you with no lube.
How can I help you today? I qualify you, I put you on a car, you go on a test drive,
you come back from the test drive. Hey, Mr. and Mrs. Carbuyer, how'd you like that new
car smell? Would you like some coffee or tea? We'll take you inside, look at some numbers.
How does that sound? And we go through the sales process, and this is where the negotiation
starts. Most people that are cash buyers shoot themselves in the foot at this step right
here. Do not tell them you're paying cash. This is where you kill all of your negotiation
power, and I'll explain why. So dealerships are incentivized. Remember, the new business
model, where does 74% of their revenue come from outside of the sale of the car? It's
from F&I and other things, service packages, accessories, et cetera, et cetera. The way
that dealerships make money is by literally becoming the bank. So they can either be their
own lender, or they can shop out your profile and your credit score to all the different
lenders in their network, and they can probably get you a pretty good score. However, this
is where they make money, and this is where you have more room, and number one, to negotiate
on price. You lead them to believe that you are financing with them, okay? Just pretend
that you're not a cash buyer. You're putting down 10, 15%. I don't know. Make up a number.
So once you do that, the dealership knows that they're either going to make a flat,
which is basically a commission. So when Mr. and Mrs. Car Buyer end up taking a loan with
dealerships Bank X, Bank X is going to pay the dealership a flat fee or a commission.
Or the other way that dealerships make money through financing is through loans, is through
financial reserve. So basically all this is, is that you qualify for a buy rate. Say you're
an 800 credit score. The loan is going to be 4%, right? That's the buy rate. The dealership
will bake in numbers. They'll bake in two extra percent called the sell rate, and that's
where they make the arbitrage. That's where they make the 2% spread. So for a quick math,
if you took out a $20,000 loan, financed at 60 months at 4%, and they get it to you at
6, that 2% difference is worth $1,033 over the course of that loan in spread. So now
you can see where the dealership would be more willing to go to negotiate on price is
because they're making money here on the payments. Make sense? So now you're probably asking
yourself, well, Marco, you know, I don't want a loan. What does all this lead to? I thought
the point of this was to buy the car with cash. Yes. So when you go into the back office
and F and I, okay, where they sell you the gap insurance, the wheel insurance, all that
good stuff, that's actually where you find the sheet and you basically break down every
single one of the costs. Okay. And we'll get into that right here. Okay. So this is where
the rubber meets the road in the video. This is what you're going to do in the back office.
So you are taking out a loan from either the dealer themselves, someone part of their network
or actually the manufacturer's financing arm. So like Lexus financial, GM financial, et
cetera, et cetera. The reason you were doing this as mentioned earlier in the video is
because you're going to beat them up on price. Once you finish the sales negotiation on the
floor with the salesman, you're going to be in the back office and they're going to present
to you your final numbers. Okay. So typically what this looks like is, is you're going to
see retail price. This car was $32,997. Well, you got us down to the sales price, which
is now 30. They're going to break out your local taxes. In this case, I just assume 10%
that's high, but just assume that, uh, for easy numbers. Then you have like doc fee,
fee one, a government fee fee to, you know, some BS fees that they make up, which I'll
explain to you in a second here, what to do. Um, you have gap, which they're going to build
into this gap insurance and then accessories and, uh, service packages, things like that.
I just ran out of room on the whiteboard. So you're going to come to a total number
of whatever that is, you know, five figures minus your down payment. And that's going
to be the amount financed. Now this is where you actually want to still continue the negotiation
process and don't be afraid to walk away if they don't meet this. Okay. This is going
to save you money. So pay attention. So since you're taking out the loan, first and foremost,
you need to understand if this loan has a early prepayment penalty. If it does, then
what I'm explaining is not going to work. It's not worth the effort if it doesn't, which
most loans shouldn't have an early prepayment penalty. Um, then you just save yourself a
bunch of money and you can send me a commission check in the mail if you want to. Just kidding.
Not really. All right. So what happens is, is once they break all this down, you're going
to say, Oh, a doc fee, 500 bucks. Uh, no thanks. I'm crossing that out. Government BS fee.
No thanks. I'm crossing that out. Gap. I don't need it. I'm just saying for this example,
if you want gap, use it, whatever. I don't care. Uh, accessories. I don't need it unless
you want it. Then you have them redo the price. They're going to say, Oh, this doc fee that
state mandated. If I charge you X, I have to charge everyone else X. Otherwise I'll
lose my license. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, guess what? Uh, for all the big brain
people in the comments that are, that are going to leave a negative comment, this is
just a negotiation chip. Okay? You don't have to knock this out. All you do is you take
this 500 and you take it off the price of the car. You say, okay, I'll pay the $500
fee if you charge me 29 five for the car. Does that make sense? So you're just buying
yourself more negotiation power. And if they say, no, I can't do that. You know what you
say? Thanks Mr. F and I have a great day. And you walk away with a smile on your face
and you drive off into the sunset. I'm just kidding. But anyway, you're buying yourself
more negotiation power. So you're still going to end up paying for the sales price of the
car. You're still going to pay the same tax that you would have paid. You may buy yourself
some negotiation power with these BS fees. You're not going to pay this stuff. You have
them redo the total. You put down whatever you said you're going to put down. And this
is the point of the video. You get your payoff amount from the lender. Let's call it 30 days
later or 45 days later. You say, Hey, what's my payoff amount? It should simply just be
these numbers, sales price tax, whatever the amount you financed minus your down payment.
And you send them a check cash. You just paid cash for the car while still getting all the
benefits of the sales price negotiation. Does this make sense? Okay. So now that I saved
you a bunch of money, this is how I've been buying cars my entire life. My parents are
immigrants. We don't buy new cars. I've never bought a new car, probably never will. I don't
lease cars. I own a business. Maybe leasing makes sense to save me some money as a write-off.
I don't care. I don't even play those games. I buy cars with cash from private parties.
Okay. What's a private party? It's a human being just like me and you. Are there shady
people that exist? Yes. Are there good people that exist? Yes. Are there rich people who
maintain the crap out of the car, made it pristine and service that at every single
service interval, took the depreciation hit, the maintenance hit, and now they're selling
it to you for cheap with no fees that a dealer would charge you? Yes. Those people exist
too. And that's how I buy cars. I buy cars off of forums. I buy cars off of Craigslist.
I buy cars off of private parties who have taken well, uh, who have well maintained the
car and have all the service documents and everything. And I'm also mechanically inclined.
So that helps too. So is my dad. So my point is I've broke even or made money on most of
the cars that I've owned. I've only lost money on a couple of cars that I've owned. I buy
cars that have high demand, low supply, typically enthusiast cars. I drive them for a little
bit, sell them, make money or break even. Okay. This is why I've never had a car payment
my entire life. So let me elaborate on these two very quickly because I know people in
the comments are, Oh, I don't have a mechanic. I'm not mechanically savvy. I'm going to get
taken advantage of. Just use some common sense, dude. If you're pulling up to a beautiful
residential development and the guy lives in a $500,000 house or a McMansion or whatever
you want to call it, he probably took good care of the car. Okay. And you check it out
and inspect it. Just use common sense. So what I do is I go to forums. If I'm looking
at a Volkswagen Touareg, which is not made anymore, I'll go to Volkswagen Touareg forums.
If I'm looking at a Porsche Cayenne diesel six speed manual, which they're not making
anymore, I'm going to go to a Porsche forums, Renlist. I may go to Craigslist. I may set
up an automatic search. So when certain words meet my criteria, I get emailed and you can
see if the car's in good shape or not. So this part of the video probably resonates
with maybe 5% of the people watching the video, but this is the best way to buy a car. You
avoid all the dealership fees. You avoid all the sleazy salesmen. You avoid all the headache
of going through the dealership process. You're simply dealing with another human being. If
you have a good judge of character, you know what to look for. And you did your research.
Buying cars from private parties is the best way to get value, period. If you don't agree,
comment down below. If you do agree, comment down below whether you do or don't. I mean,
it's just my opinion and I've had success doing it for many years. Thank you so much.
And if you want to watch my how car dealerships video rip you off, check this out right here.
Have a prosperous day, everybody.

