Anne Hathaway and Robert De Niro "What we learned from working together". | The And | VOGU E JAPAN

What memory will you take away from our experience working together? So, you remember Tai Chi Day? We were in the middle of the park, and I decided that I was going to get some ice cream, and I asked you if you wanted some ice cream, and I don't think I expected you to say yes, and you did, and then we spent the next half an hour trying to figure out what was the ideal ice cream to get, and that was a really fun conversation, so I think that's the one that I'm going to remember the most. How do you know a scene went well? Sometimes you know the scene goes well because you know. Other times you don't know. In my case, I don't know. And you might feel that it's not going well. You might even feel, be thinking totally things you feel you shouldn't be thinking during the scene, but in fact that might help the scene, and it might turn out to be better than you think again because it's removed from you, and objectively people seeing it, and you seeing it later, you realize that it was good. Do you have a specific memory of the scene where you were thinking that, and what you were thinking wound up playing out well on screen? There's one, but it's so far back that I realized, that's when I realized that you can be, it doesn't really mean that what you're doing or what you're thinking is going to have a negative effect on the scene. But that was so long ago. Forty years ago. More than forty years ago. Okay. Describe to me the precise moment you decided to become an actor. I was three, and my mom was playing Ava Caron at a summer stock theater in Pennsylvania called the Allenberry Playhouse, and she was terrific. I mean, such an incredible performance. And I never lost sight of the fact that she was my mom, but I totally believed she was this other person too. And I mean, I was three, I couldn't have really, really consciously thought, oh this is what I want to do for the rest of my life, but I remember being in the theater, listening to the music, watching the drama, watching my mom kill it, and just think, I want that. I want to be doing that. I want that energy. I need to ask that question of you though, because that is too good, and I want to know the answer. Can you describe to me the precise moment that you decided to become an actor? I don't remember exactly. I mean, I started acting when I was ten on Saturdays, and then I stopped until I was in my late 16 or so. So when I was ten years old or before. Where did you study when you were ten? Where did I study? The Dramatic Workshop. At that time it was above the Capitol Theater, which is across from the Winter Garden. Do you remember your teacher? Her name was Maria Ley Piscata. She was one of the founders of the Dramatic Workshop. And were you in a class with other ten year olds, or was it like adults? It was on Saturday. My turn, right? Yes. Have you learned anything recently about your craft that surprised you? Yeah. So I just did a play. It was a one-woman show. And I just had a lot of stuff just kind of hitting me in my personal life, and I didn't think I could go on. It was just like something really hard had happened that day. And I never, I mean, you know me, I could never imagine missing a performance, but I really didn't think I could go on that day. And I called my boss at the theater, and he just said, you've got to do it. You've got to do it. You've got to dig down deep. Did you have an understudy? No. No, I didn't have an understudy. I'm the only one in the show. And he said, you know, just go on stage, and you've just got to trust it's going to be there. You're going to find it. And there was this moment, I remember, where I didn't go up on a line, but the line just wouldn't come out. And I had to handle it in the moment. And I needed a break from the audience, and I just kind of curled up into a ball on stage and took a breath and stood up. And I thought that maybe I just ruined the show. But they were totally with it, and it occurred to me they didn't know that this was an unusual show. And yeah, it was a way more raw performance than I had been giving. But it worked, and I got a huge audience reaction that night. So I guess the thing that I learned is like it's not really about you. It's not really about what you think. And you're never going to have the perfect set of circumstances to be able to do it. You've just got to accept it for what it is. Go with it. And just have a lot of faith that when the writing's good, and you've put in the work, and you've rehearsed that you can rely on that. What's a line you've never forgotten, and why? A line I never forgot. Not a line that I, but a line in life that somebody said to me was, if I only knew then what I know now. That's it. You're so good at giving minimalist, perfect answers. My turn. This is a question that really I shouldn't ask, but what's something, they wrote this. What's something you learned from working with me? You could learn nothing. Well, I didn't learn nothing. That's for sure. I mean, I don't want to embarrass you, but I had my antenna up the entire time we were working together. I'm not sure if you're aware of this. You're a legend. And so it would be foolish not to observe you just to learn how the best does it. And the thing that just blew me away, and what I learned was you're so relaxed on set, and you're so humble about everything. It's not about any of the nonsense, any of the... Not the drama. It's not about the drama at all. You brought zero drama to the set any day. It was just a great delight to discover that someone who was as well-known and more respected and legendary as you could have no ego. Great pride in your work, and great level of attention and care with your character and for the work that we were doing, but no ego. And I thought that was... That would be refreshing in anyone, but the fact that it was you made it kind of priceless. You look so uncomfortable right now. Sorry. I really enjoyed answering that. Describe our collaboration in five words. Our collaboration. Mutual respect and admiration for... Good result of six words. I think we'll take it. That was amazing. When you think about making this film, what's the moment that comes to mind? The car, maybe? You don't remember this movie. This is what I'm getting for this answer. You don't remember anything we filmed. I'm Annie. Do you know what Tinder is? Tinder? Yes. Isn't it a fuel or something? Yes. That is absolutely what it is. That wasn't my real question.