Outer Planet Shifts & Magic w/ Rachel Lang

Well, hello there and welcome to the Astrology Hub podcast. I'm so happy that you've decided to tune in today. This podcast episode is our official kickoff of Magic Month. We've made the entire month of October this exploration of ways that we can re-enchant our lives, of ways that we can really harness our creative power, ways that we can actually go into co-creation, into a co-creative communion with the universe itself. And we have some amazing teachers here to talk to us about these ideas. And today I'm thrilled to welcome Rachel Lange. We're going to be covering the fact that all of the outer planets are going to be changing signs over the next couple of years. And Rachel says this means that the creative potential is exponential. The power for us to actually impact change and influence the future is amplified. So we want to talk about that. We want to talk about the timing of it, but then also what we can do. And Rachel's amazing. She always makes the astrology very practical and tangible. So you're going to walk away with very clear ideas of how you can implement some of these ideas into your life. All right, so just a little bit more about Magic Month before we dive in. Basically, we're exploring astrological magic on the podcast and just the idea of magic in general, because there's so many different ways that we can relate to the idea of magic. We're also going to be featuring three, at least, of our astrological magic classes and offering 33% discounts on those classes throughout the month of October. So make sure that you check the page. I'm going to give you the link in a sec. But then also we are having a costume contest. So you can take a picture of yourself in an astrologically themed costume. And when you do, you are entered in to win prizes. So a free membership, some of these astrological magic classes we're talking about, and some other amazing prizes. So you can go to astrologyhub.com to participate in all of it. And I cannot wait to see your pictures and all the creativity. So be thinking about what you want to submit, and the sooner the better. So get all dressed up, take a picture, send it in, and maybe you're going to be one of the winners. So today's guest is Rachel Ling. She's an author, an astrologer, a speaker, a teacher. She's been studying astrology for over 30 years. She's been practicing professionally and teaching for 18. She has two books currently. One is called Modern Day Magic, Eight Simple Rules to Realize Your Power. And uh-oh, I have a typo. And what your life? Shape. Shape your life. There we go. Okay, thank you. Sorry about that. And then another one, a children's book called As Above, So Below. And I love that you wrote a children's book, Rachel. I feel like there's so much opportunity to introduce astrological ideas and concepts to children in creative ways. So amazing. And welcome back to the show. Thank you. Thank you so much, Amanda. And I just have to say real quickly, as someone who loves Halloween, and Halloween has been since childhood my favorite holiday, I am in that costume contest. I am already thinking about the costume. It's endless too. I mean, you can get super creative. Think of all the different archetypes and characters and elements and all that. I love it. I love it. I think probably a lot of us who are drawn to astrology have also always loved Halloween. And just it's really more about the magic, the magic of seasons, the magic of these different celebrations and the connection with nature and all of that. So there's a quote from one of the classes that you taught with us on working with the moon, working with the lunar cycle and magic. And what you said is that magic is a prime creative force alive within us that urges us into a wondrous relationship with all of life. So Rachel, I'd love to start there because again, I feel like there's often a very superficial understanding of magic. So what is magic to you? How has it impacted your life? Why are you passionate, passionate enough about it to write books about it, to talk about it? Just let's start there. Yeah, I agree. I think I love, I love that you started with this quote because I've spent a lot of years thinking about magic, talking about magic, teaching magic, writing about it. And really my experience of magic, which so many others share a similar experience, is that magic is about really being a part of the world. And I think so many ideas that we have about spirituality come from that enlightenment period where we learned to bifurcate. And actually this goes back to Aristotle and back to the 12th century when we were rediscovering Aristotelian works. And so much of our theology is based in this idea of polarity, of mind is separate from body, body is separate from, you know, there's, you know, mind, mind, body, spirit, physical, physical body. And we learned over time to separate God, goddess, the deities, our spiritual selves from our physical selves. And anyone who practices magic, and I know you, you do this whenever you, every time you lead a moon ritual or a moon ceremony, and I've had the privilege of sitting in on some of them. And every time you talk about ways of embodying astrology, you understand you're doing this. It's really about coming back into the body. Magic is really about being a part of the earth. And so we talk about it in terms of manifestation because I think a lot of people think like I said, intentions, I do these rituals, but really what's happening is that we're using our words. We're using the symbols in our environment. We're using our physical bodies. We're using all of that to bridge the invisible and the visible. And so magic is about that relationship. Once you start to open the door to magic, then every time you go outside, there's a magical encounter. You know, I walk my dog and there's, there are feathers on my path. And I think, there's spirit. Thank you, spirit. You know, the bird, I'm driving down the road on my way to get to talk to you. And there's this great big hawk sitting on the telephone wire and I could not have missed it. That's magic. You and I in this conversation, we're experiencing magic. Anyone listening is taking in the energy and the frequency that we are emitting in our conversation and the intentions that we set when we come into this and they're receiving magic. So magic is about our own creativity. And it's also about our connectivity. I love it so much. And it's every time I hear any of you astrologers talk about it. And when I experienced it myself, it feels like we get to be childlike again. I don't mean childish. I mean, childlike in that when you would just wonder and be in awe of nature, of all the different things around you and imagination was so rich and real. And so I just, I love the opportunity to have this magic month and really focus on ways that we can bring that wonder and that awe and that delight in life into our everyday experience. And so Rachel, let's talk about this idea that all the planets are changing, all the outer planets are changing signs. And so that's opening up even more creative, magical potential for us. Why are you saying that? Let's just sort of orient ourselves around that, that statement, and then we can go into how to actually do it. Great. Oh yeah. This, this topic is so fun because I think we're all living in this incredible time. And, and each one of us, you know, I come from a worldview that believes that our souls chose to come here at this particular time to be a part of a paradigm shift. And whatever, no matter what you do for a living, no matter what your life experience looks like, you're a part of that shift. And so what's happening between, and I know you've talked about this on your show and, and you know, anyone who knows astrology knows that, wow, what a time this is. Between now and 2026, early 2026, all of the outer planets are changing signs. Pluto moves into Aquarius on November 19th and stays there for good. It's been making that transition. That alone is a pivotal transition. You know, it starts a 20 year cycle. Pluto, Pluto moving into a new sign, kick-starts an entire generation. And we, we feel the ripple effects of that change over the next several, several generations, over the next 250 years, actually. And then Neptune next year dips in and out of Aries, goes between Pisces and Aries, making its way fully into Aries in 2026. Uranus is moving back and forth between Taurus and Gemini, making its way fully into Gemini in 2026. And then Saturn's also joining the pack and moving into Aries in 2026. And it will meet up with Neptune at zero degrees Aries. And that's a world point. That is a point of a complete and total paradigm reset. And right before that, next year, we get a preview of what that paradigm looks like. Because the North Node hits its reset button in January of next year. And when it enters zero degrees Aries and then makes its way into Pisces, everyone is aligning to their utmost potential as it's reflected right now. So all of these outer planets changing signs show us that where we are now, the political landscape that we have, the ways that corporations and money and capitalism, all of the systems and the structures that keep us blowing in a society are all in flux. But as a result of that, we have this power individually and collectively to start drafting the blueprints for the next paradigm. It's not set in stone. And in fact, the planets are moving from earth and water to the outer planets are moving from earth and water science to air and fire. What we know about air and fire is that it's all about the intellectual realm. It's like lightning striking, it's innovation, it's invention, it's creativity. And really that goes until Saturn and Chiron move into Taurus in 2027, 2028. So between now and then we have all this ideation, all this creative potential without anything grounding it and saying, let's stick with what we've done. Let's stick with this, this works. So it's exciting. It's really exciting, but it's also like, what do we do with all this power? Right. Rachel, has that ever happened before? Like, has it ever happened that all the outer planets change in like such a small concentrated amount of time? Yeah. You know, that's a really good question. And I would have to go back and see when, and I haven't done that research. But what I do know is that when you look at the charts for 2026 and you see all of the fire and all of the air that's, that's, that's represented by the outers, and even at some times the inner planets joining them, what you see is you see something rare. You see a lineup, a stellar lineup that, that we have never experienced in generations. I mean, generations. And we know that Neptune and Aries just alone hasn't happened for 165 years. We know that Pluto hasn't been in Aquarius in 248 years. It's been off and on over the last year or so. And so the astrology is unique, not just to our time, but to centuries. Okay. Rachel, I know this is a little bit of a sidebar conversation, but it's fascinating. And so I have to bring it in. I know you've been doing a lot of research on black holes and you've made some, some very interesting statements about black holes and the expansion of consciousness and black holes being integrated into the new frontier even of astrology. Like if everything's changing, that would include astrology, right? So there's going to be some new frontiers within astrology. So tell us about the black holes. Where does this come in? Why do you think it's so relevant? Just let's start there. Yeah. So this is, this could be a whole show topic because it is, it's, it's, it's exhilarating to, like, I've done a lot of research on this and, and what I've seen is just like mind blowing. And I spoke about this at the Astrological Association Conference too. And I think that that talk might still be available. But, but, you know, one of the things that's happening when, when any outer planet comes into a contact by conjunction or parallel with a black hole, we have access to new insights, new information that are like beyond what we can know with our own conscious awareness or with our collective conscious. And so that's going to be happening when Uranus reaches the last couple of degrees of, of Taurus. And so next year, Uranus lines up with a black hole that's a quasar. So it's this big body of light that exposes us or opens us to new insights, new ideas, new information. And it's coming from a place that's going to, to be a light source for, for our planet, for our world. So there's, there's a lot more we could talk about this. But I think as it pertains to our creative potential, yeah, there are things that we're going to be learning next year or opening our, our awareness to that we, that are so far out of what we know as our reality right now. And that's another reason why we're in such a creative time. I love this. It's not like we have to do it all on our own, but we're going to get some, we're going to get some divine intervention, some help there. I love that. If somebody's just now, you pitch someone's curiosity and they're like, how do we know when, when we have planets aligning with black holes, how do we even find that? Like, what are the points? Yeah. So this is a whole, this is a whole, like I said, this is a whole topic that we could go into, but you know, there are certain, Philip Sedgwick has done incredible work on this and Michael Erlewine and Alex Miller. And I'm sure there are others that I'm not thinking about right now in this moment, but I mean, Philip Sedgwick really is, I think, and you know, a great resource for this. And in Solar Fire, which is an astrology program that many of us professionals use, you can actually buy expansion packs of black holes and quasars and pulsars and deep space objects. And so that's something to, or someone could reach out to me and, or maybe we could have a mastery class on the subject, which I think would be amazing. Like you said, this is a, this is the front, this is a new frontier of, I think, where astrology is going to be moving. Wow. It's like something opens up and then light comes through and we have access to new information. That's fascinating. If you're an Inner Circle member and you would like a mastery class on black holes, let us know in the comments, because we could probably arrange that with Rachel sometime next year. That's very cool. Okay. So if we go with your paradigm or what our worldview that we chose to be here at this time, and that, that we're experiencing an individual and a collective paradigm shift, what can we do with that? Like, especially like right now, as we're, we're in October of 2024, these are these big dynamic times that are coming 2025, 2026. What would you recommend we do to be prepared to harness and really capitalize? I'm saying that in a, in hopefully a positive way, but, but I'm saying it in a Capricorn way, just, just really utilize these energies for the highest and best for ourselves and for all. What, what can we be doing now? Yeah, I think the most important thing, and I actually gave a talk on potential future trends. I had so much fun giving this talk at the, the American, the Astrological Association Conference in London just last month. And if we look back at previous times when Uranus has been in Gemini, that was 84 years ago, Neptune in Aries, Pluto in Aquarius, what we see is we see a real shift in consciousness and one that opens up with Pluto. And then with Uranus and Neptune, we see a lot of fast moving innovation without a lot of delays or setbacks, without those limiting beliefs that we all carry with us and that we carry through generations in our cultural consciousness or in our collective consciousness. And so I think it's important for us all to realize that, you know, if you're driving down the freeway or the highway on a road trip, and you've got the radio on and you go through these periods, these patches of road where they're static. And I know a lot of us are streaming now and have, you know, all kinds of different ways of listening to music. But, you know, if you go back in time and remember driving down the road and you have these patches of static and sound comes through and you can hear music for a period of time or you get into a big city and there's lots and lots of sound and different options for the radio. That's kind of how the field of potentiality, this like intellectual realm that we're all a part of, that's what's happening. There's a buzz. So our thoughts are easier to travel. The information that we share with one another, easier to communicate and to get out into the world. But that also means that if we look at the research in quantum physics, for example, or in new thought ideology, we know how our thoughts really shape our experience. And so if you're in this air prominent, fire prominent period, our radio towers are sending and receiving all the time. And so our thoughts can carry. And we want to be focusing our thoughts and thinking about things that are going to be in support of what we want to create in our lives. Rachel, I hear you and I can really feel what you're talking about. And I think a lot of us have had the experience recently over the last few years of, of, wow, whatever I tune into gets reflected back to me. And often this is because of the algorithms on the social media platforms and the way that it's all designed to literally, once you say you're interested in something now, that's all you see. But I love that you brought in the radio because, because we can, we can very proactively and consciously choose which stations we're tuning into. And that can work in our favor, you know, that, that can work at our detriment and that can work in our favor as well. So paying attention to thoughts, that's one of the things that you're saying is, is an important piece to be, to start being mindful of right now, if you're not already, what else can we do? Yeah, I think you, you make such a great point and that is being selective about what we are tuning into, what radio stations we're playing. I mean, literally, but also metaphorically, who are we, who are we listening to? Are they sparking fear? Is the rhetoric that we hear politically making us feel better? Is it making us feel like we are, that this is the world we want to create? Or is it making us feel compressed, tied down, disempowered? I mean, I think if, if we all realize how much power we have actually to create the world that we want, to create the world that we're living in, that we're leaving for future generations, then we might feel more responsible about what we're exposing ourselves to and about what we're participating in, in terms of discourse, in terms of social media exchanges, and also just in terms of the information we take in and the information we share. Yeah. Also the amount of power we give to some of these external forces that we can't really control as much, like how much of our bandwidth or our energy, whether it's in favor of, or in disfavor of, are we lending to the different players on the world stage even? And what would happen if we took some more of that power back and actually channeled it into things that could actually make an impact? And this, this kind of brings us to some of the ideas around astrological magic. And so can you tell us what you see astrological magic as and why in this time of great change and malleability, this is an even more important concept? Yeah, yeah. So we talked about magic bringing us into relationship with all life. Well, one of the core tenants of magic and astrological magic in particular, is as above so below, as within so without, as the universe so the soul. So if we recognize the correspondences with everything, everything has an astrological correspondence, every symbol that we bring into our home space and into our environment, everything that we do incorporate into our rituals, all of that has an astrological frequency that we're calling in. And so astrological magic, understanding where the planets are in relation to the earth, is, I think, one of the first ways that you start building a deeper relationship with nature and with the earth and with the cosmos and with the spiritual forces that are invisible to us but that we can feel and sense. So astrological magic is just a way of bringing ourselves into relationship with the sun, the moon, and the planets. And finding times to, I think about it in terms of surfing, like finding times to surf on the right wave to take you to the shores that you want to land on. What's not astrological magic? I mean that to me just kind of feels like all of astrology, right? Yeah, yeah. And if you really read the like the Renaissance astrologers, there's a lot of what we know about astrological magic comes from those traditions and also comes from like Culpeper and the Picatrix and even going back to Lily, I mean, and then going way back into the ancient traditions as well. But I think that what astral or astrological magic is not, is it is not being disconnected. So you're right, every time you open your, I still have an old school astrological calendar that I pull out, my daily planner that I pull out, you know, what's happening today. Every time you look at your phone and you're connecting with your chart or with the moon or the planetary hours, that's astrological magic because you're making a moment sacred by connecting with the larger picture. So it's kind of cool. I've actually never thought about it in this way before. But really, so we can go as deep as planning out our rituals, making tinctures, talismans, you know, doing our intention setting. I make a lot of like ritual art like that painting right back there. I did during Venus and that's so that's a living talisman. So we can choose or elect times to do very specific rituals for specific purposes. That's one way of using astral magic. Then we can also just incorporate it into our everyday lives. And that brings sacredness into the mundane. Rachel, what are some ways, I love the art behind you. It's always so striking. I mean, it's really a gorgeous image and it definitely like emanates something. And I think that every time I see you on video. But what are some other ways that people can be working even more consciously, more connected with their charts or the timing of transits to tap into this experience of magic? Yeah, there's a whole section in my book about this. And I'll give some real simple ways of working with astrological magic. Because it can be intimidating to think about lunar mansions and fixed stars. And, you know, if you read Nina Griffin's work, who is prolific, and I highly recommend, you know, you can think, oh, this is this is complicated, because she, she's brilliant. And the way she expresses it is brilliant. But for anyone who just wants to start working with it, I think the simplest thing is to follow the moon. The moon goes through these very visible phases every 28 days. The new moon, we said intentions, generally speaking, the first quarter moon is still a time of growth and a time of excess. So our intention setting relates to things that we want to call into our lives or things that we want to grow. So our fertility rituals, our money making rituals, and then everything culminates during the full moon. The full moon is when we have this balance of lunar energy and solar energy. The sun's full light is reflecting off the moon. And we actually feel that I mean, I think a lot of people express not being able to sleep during the full moon, you can feel this energy. And the full moons, you're just all around general, good ritual, setting lunation, pointing the lunation cycle. So it's a time for clearing, it's a time when you're more aware of what needs to be let go. It's a time of what it's a time of clearing the path, divination, healing rituals, drawing in excess, your fertility rituals, your money making rituals, your home and family related rituals. And so the full moon is like the pivotal peak point in a cycle. And then the moon starts waning. And as the moon's waning, we're pruning, we're clearing out, we're cleaning house, and it's a time of cutting out excess. These are the times when you can do some releasing and letting go, when you can do some intentions to disconnect from relationships in a conscious way, clean your house. That's when that point in the lunation is supportive for those things. So it's a really simple way of just getting started is follow the moon. And in your class, you also talk about our individual natal moon signs and how this can impact blockages we may have to actually manifesting or working with magic, but then also how it can help us amplify our magic. Do you want to just give us a couple examples of what you mean by that? Sure, sure. So our natal moon signs are, you know, they're the invisible part of our selves. They're the pre-verbal, non-verbal, I think of them as like the little inner two-year-old or not to the two-year-olds more like Mars, but they're like the inner baby that we have that we need to nurture and care for. But the moon, because the moon is unconscious, because the moon relates to the subconscious, which is the unseen or super rational aspects of ourselves, the moon relates to what we unconsciously draw into our lives, for better or for worse. So this is what we can attract easily without a lot of effort. And I think you and I talked about the Gemini moon as an example. That's because we both have one. I know we both have one. So, you know, one thing that Gemini moons are really good at is drawing in busy work and drawing in like lots of talking without a lot of structure or a lot of information coming in without a lot of focus. And so that's the more unintegrated part of what we draw in. But then also we could draw in, in a conscious way, opportunities to speak, to have a podcast. You know, you started this beautiful business all with that need to express that comes from that Gemini moon. Yeah. It's really helpful to be aware of the, you know, kind of places where we can fall down though, based on our moon, because I mean, even for myself, when Jupiter went into Gemini and I knew that I wanted to dedicate this time to writing my book, one of the warnings was it can be in excess of like, you know, you take on way too much and then you don't get anything done because you've just completely scattered yourself all over the place. So being aware of our tendencies and then even coupling that with trance and things can be super helpful. It's like, okay, maybe I'm, maybe I'm actually avoiding my creative power right now by dissipating my energy and getting involved in way too many things. And, you know, just having that self-awareness can be so helpful. Right. And I think you bring up a really important point, and that is our moon is the part of us. It's the pre-verbal part of us that doesn't always feel safe. And so if there's any fear about your book being public, being out in the world, everyone's seeing your ideas, then that little insecurity comes up and it's like, I don't want to do this. I'm going to shut this down. I'm going to shut this down by getting too busy and then not being able to do it. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And so this is another way that magic works. So we are always, we are creative machines and we are always creating in so many different, in so many different levels. Our soul is creating the experiences that we need, that we came here to experience. And some of them are not ones that our ego would choose. And then our egos are creating in terms of what's going to make us feel special, like stand out or what's going to help us belong. And so our egos are always in a creative process consciously of like, well, what do I need to do to fit into my community? What do I need to do to be really special in my career? So we're creating consciously. And then we're creating subconsciously ways of meeting our deep-seated needs that we don't always have a sense of because they relate to our early, early, early childhood experiences. And we're creating and drawing into our lives things that make us feel safe, which aren't always what our egos would choose. And they're definitely often not times what our souls would choose. So we're creating with the sun. We're creating with the moon. We're really creating with our entire charts, but the sun and the moon have both very different needs in terms of the magical potential. Okay. Well, let's bring this full circle to the idea that all these magical abilities that we have as human beings are amplified in this period of time, that our creative potential is amplified in this period of time. What is one thing that people out there can do to really just like anchor in this idea and, and just start, just take like that first step. What's one thing that someone could do? I think, I think magic is always more fun when we're doing it with other people. So find that one friend who is one friend or more, or maybe you start a small group, have these conversations of like, what are, what are you creating? What are your intentions? Let's make some moon water. Let's, you know, find someone else to be your study buddy or your, your collaborator in co-creating. And maybe you both have a shared vision for what you want to see for your communities or what you want to see for the world. It's really important that we vision what we're seeing in the world or what we want to see in the world. And I think the best thing that we can do is talk about it. Talk about what's possible instead of what is that we want to change. Yeah. Those are important conversations too. I'm not saying we don't want to call out injustice or we don't want to call out other people's, you know, behavior that's out of integrity or that we want to look at systems and how to shift what is. That's important too. But what's, I think the opportunity we have right now is holding that vision power individually within ourselves, but also holding it with other people. The energy of co-creation of magic, the, when we are setting intentions or offering any kind of prayer, when two people come together, their co-creative power isn't just multiplied one times one. It is exponential. And so groups, I mean, we're moving into Pluto and Aquarius. The power really is within the individual, within the group, individuals within groups, our local communities, our online communities. I have this like, sort of dream that like, we go back to when the Quakers were first or the early Christians, like a lot of spiritual practices started with, let's just get together in somebody's living room and talk about these things. So I think that's, that's really, that's one thing that we can do. Find someone to talk about these things with and to vision together. It's also when we start sharing some of the visions and the dreams where I know for myself, I, in the inner circle, oftentimes we'll share at the end of a ceremony and people will come on and share their visions. And then I start to see their vision. And then the whole group is seeing their vision and we're giving so much power to this creative idea. And it's, and then it's kind of like, oh yeah, that would be amazing. And then we could put this person's idea with that person's idea. And then we have an entire solution to a problem that exists today. So I love what you're bringing out in terms of sharing it with people, playing in it with people. I know my experience with magic has been in groups the entire time. I, you know, I, of course I do some things on my own, but it started with the moon circles, you know, local moon circles here in Hawaii and, and just incredibly potent. Rachel, what would you say to anyone out there who is questioning how much power we actually have as individuals who is feeling kind of disillusioned or defeated in terms of the many seemingly obstacles that we have as humans at this point in time. And who's looking at it going, yeah, this is cute and all, but like, is it really going to change anything? Yes. I have been there. I feel that. And I want to be really clear. We still have systems of oppression. We still have prejudices implicit by it, but there are still, there are still frameworks that are working within our culture that are making it so that we don't have, so that we are shielded from really feeling the amount of power that we have. But what I will say is that I think we can think about power. Power can be such a, like a misunderstood word. So for example, I love the story that you were just telling of how you could see someone else's vision in the circle, inner circle. And when you were in that moment and you were, you were tapped in to someone else's vision and you were seeing in tandem with everybody else. Did you feel powerful in that moment? Yes. Yeah. Inspired and hopeful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what power is. Power is, I can, it is the ability to do something. It's not dominating. It's not forceful. It's not what we've come to associate power with. Power is that feeling of any, if something is possible and everyone can have that. And so don't think about the outcome. Let me take that back. Be really clear. We do want to think about the outcomes. We do want to vision and dream and, and like feel passionate about those outcomes, but the power that feels so enlivening and that is magic, that co-creative force, that powerful creative force is actually felt. It's sensed. And when we feel powerful, we have a really clear defining line for what's true, what's right, or what's not. And when all of us can fine tune our internal compass that way, then we are going to make decisions personally and collectively in alignment with what is going to be right. What is going to bring us to the good, meaning a place that is more universally just and abundant and, and love-filled, peaceful for the greater good. So fine tuning that inner guidance system is really what we're talking about when we're talking about power. So paying attention to how things feel in your body. You were saying that earlier, you know, when you're listening, when you're tuning into certain channels, when you're in certain groups of people and having certain conversations, how does it feel in your body? And that was just a really beautiful illustration of that Rachel. Thank you. Yes. So, so there's a lot of things we can do, buddy up, get with other people. What's moon water by the way? Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about moon. So moon water is, I have this question a lot. Moon water is, you know, when you take a water, you put it out at the full moon or the, you know, the quarter moon, the waxing moon, you, and it charges, it kind of holds the energy of that moon, that moon sign of the lunation. And some people use it in ritual practices. I know I do. Some people wash their faces with it. So, um, so it's, it's like, it's like holy water, you know? Yes. I'm, I'm learning a lot about water actually. And water as a sentient conscious being. And so everything you're saying makes so much sense. Like that's an actual communion. It seems also like you would be, it would also be solar water in a way because it's the light Totally. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. I love it. Rachel, thank you so much for those of you who love Rachel as a teacher and want to learn more. We've, we've categorized the magic month classes in terms of beginner, intermediate and advanced. We labeled Rachel's beginner because the class that we have for magic month is working with the lunar cycle. So it is that like entry point. But if you're an advanced student and you don't have a lunar cycle practice and you want to learn about the lunar cycle, it's still good for you too. But if you want a starting place and if you want very practical ways to actually implement some of these ideas, highly recommend checking that out and taking advantage of the 33% magic month discount. We're going to continue the series on magic throughout this entire month. And you are going to have the chance to win some of these amazing prizes based on your astrologically themed costume. So make sure you take a picture of yourself in those and submit them. You can go to astrologyhub.com slash magic to learn more and participate in any of the festivities that you feel called to. Rachel, it has been such a pleasure to be here with you again. I love having you on this show. I just, I love your perspective. Thank you so much for sharing. You're, you're definitely a beacon of light. Oh, thank you. I feel the same way about you. Thank you. Awesome. All right, everybody. Thank you so much for being a part of our community, for making astrology a part of your life, and we will look forward to connecting with you on the next episode. Take care, everyone.