Lover of Men: The Untold History of Abraham Lincoln - Flicks (2024)

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The makers of a documentary exploring our greatest president’s intimate history talk to Patrick Stoner about their scholarship.
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he is considered a sacred figure by both
Republicans and Democrats he led the
nation through its greatest crisis he's
on our currency we build monuments to
him he's the greatest president the
United States has ever had today the big
question that people are asking
is was Abraham Lincoln gay lover of men
The Untold History of Abraham Lincoln
that is quite a title isn't it you might
assume they're just trying to catch your
eyes or ears but it's actually a deep
scholarly approach and the question was
since people did things slightly
differently in the 19th century what
evidence were they producing there two
pieces of evidence we show in the film
one is that Lincoln had a mentor named
William Butler who um who who is one of
his main mentors and there we have a
piece of evidence that shows that Butler
says in the letter Hey listen I just
paid off some of your debts Lincoln my
wife is mending your clothes and while
you're at it when you move to
Springfield come my home your home come
and move with me and instead of moving
in with his mentor who's paying off his
debts and his wife is washing his
clothes he moves in with a perfect
stranger Joshua speed and within that
you have to ask yourself okay maybe that
makes sense at first L it's just moving
to town he can't afford it bed sharing's
common Lincoln is a double income earner
he's a lawyer and it becomes a more
successful lawyer in that four years and
he's a legislature sharing was common as
a short-term solution but four years is
unheard of beautifully said Sean it's uh
Lincoln and speed um there's a there are
numerous letters recognizing their
intimacy and intimacy itself is for two
men or for two women to be intimate that
said a lot that was a a mark of being a
soulmate and so that this understanding
of um intimacy uh is is is crucial to
appr appreciating and understanding
Lincoln's relationship with speed
there's no Scandal that was created
because everyone just accepted it you
have to think of the 19th century is a
very different time than today there
haven't been a lot of films or not a lot
of writings that the public has seen
about the 19th century version of
sexuality and intimacy now everyone
knows about the Greeks and the Romans
right but that carried out up until very
recently up from the 19 century all the
way back to the beginning of time it's
said by Michael bronsky one of our
Scholars from Harvard he said people
just went into their sexual impulses
throughout history but what it meant
throughout history was very different
and right now especially in 2024 it can
mean something very bad to people but
it's very human and history has proven
that thank you very much and uh best
wishes thank you so much thanks for your
time great seeing you flicks with
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