Veterans Buy NOW, Refinance Later
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Bob Duane and Scotty Gifford delve into the advantages of VA home loans for veterans. Learn how VA loans offer competitive rates, zero down payment, and favorable terms regardless of credit score.
Good competitive rate today, and you can get the house and pay
less for it. And then when rates drop, you can come back VA has
something.
All right. Hey, and welcome back. And today we got Bob back
with us the master of the loans. And today we're going to be
focusing on the VA loan home buyers. We're talking about
we're going to talk about some of the benefits of the VA and
why if you are in the market today, why the VA might be the
biggest advantage for you to get the VA loan today, or in the
future, we'll see how that makes sense here a little bit.
So Bob, thanks so much for coming back and recording with
us.
Yeah, thank you, Scotty, for having excited to be with the
Gifford group.
Yeah, appreciate that. So today, like, in this market, we have
seen some rates are starting to creep back down. I think the Fed
is, you know, talking about cutting those rates in the
future. But like, if you're a veteran, and you are in the
market to buy, like, I personally think it's one of the
best loan programs around if you are a veteran, especially if
you have any type of disability, right, because you can get that
VA funding fee waived, which is a huge benefit. And if even with
the VA funding fee having to pay a little bit of that, it's still
a great loan program, because you can get that 0% down, right?
Well, it's 0% down. And what a lot of people don't realize, a
conventional loan, your credit score determines your interest
rate. On a VA loan, if you have a 640 FICO, or 780 FICO, you get
the same interest rate. On a conventional loan, if you have a
640 FICO versus a 780 FICO, it's a totally different because of
all level price adjustments that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac put
based on credit score, the credit score in a VA loan does
not affect that's one of the huge benefits. You mentioned the
other one, it's zero down. And the fantastic part about this,
thank you for all veterans. I love helping veterans. Thank you
for serving our country. I hope that love to help them get into
loans. And I learned about 20 years ago, the VA wants to put
veterans in homes. So they're more lenient than FHA
conventional, meaning you could have a high if you have a decent
credit, I've been able to approve loans with a higher DTI
debt to income on a VA that I could never get approved
conventional or never get approved FHA. Because that goes
back to the VA system, which is different. You go in there and
they approve the loan. What part of the myth about VA loans are,
they're harder to get, they're really easier to get. Some
people, professionals in real estate also think that they're
harder to appraise, and they're not harder to appraise and the
loan doesn't take any longer to do. The only difference is, on
VA, you order the appraisal through a VA portal, and a VA
approved appraiser appraises a house. And a lot of people I
know that have been doing real estate for decades think, oh,
it's a harder appraisal. And no, it's not. It's no different than
an appraiser walks in a house and sees a chandelier has been
taken down and the electric wires are hanging down. An
appraiser is going to note that. A VA or FHA appraiser is going to
say that's a health and safety issue needs to be repaired. But
they're not going to, I like to tell people, appraisers don't
carry ladders. I've never seen an appraiser drive up to a house
with a ladder strapped on the back of their Toyota Camry or
they don't carry toolboxes. That's the difference between an
inspector and an appraiser is important. All the time that
I've been associated with the mortgage business, VA
appraisals are easy. They're not a challenge. They don't come in
undervalued. And here's my thoughts. Here's what I'm
telling clients today. If you are in the market and you're a
veteran and you don't have a home, especially if you're a
first time homebuyer, take advantage of what the VA
benefits have and buy a house. And you may say, well, I was
waiting for rates to come down. My speculation, I'm not an
expert. If I was, I wouldn't be on this podcast, I'd be on my
boat in the Bahamas, you know, on a yacht, if I could predict
exactly what's going to happen with interest rates. And I'm
obviously, you see, I'm not. So it's just experience and
speculation. But I believe that interest rates will come down.
As soon as they start to come down, we're going to see exactly
what happened when interest rates were lower, home prices
were up. And I think you've seen as a professional real estate
person, Scotty, haven't you seen a little bit more competition
and home staying on the market longer and not selling as fast
as they were two years ago?
Yeah, definitely. With the rates being higher, we've seen home
sitting longer. And you know, some some sellers are offering,
you know, some concessions to help move their homes, right,
which then people could use to apply to their closing cost and
maybe either buy their rate down or to just bring their last
cash to close, which has been more advantageous for the buyers
right now in this market. So less competitive, you got to be
your your credit being lower. I mean, that's a big advantage of
the VA and then not really having this upper limits that
are predefined on the DTI ratios or the debt to income ratios is
our huge bonus for the VA buyers. And just cap all that
off like being a homeowner. We know that's one of the well ways
to build wealth in America, right? Because the home is an
appreciating asset and a lot of unlike a lot of things Americans
buy, which depreciate or don't have any value like furniture or
cars, right, that will lose value pretty quickly after we
buy them. So at least that's why I think the veteran VA is so big
on pushing homeownership, right? Because they know it's good for
the good for them. And good for America, right? So like, why
not? So those are both great things are all three things that
I think are really great about the VA loan.
And I would add on, if you buy one now and you get a good view,
you get a better rate than conventional VA rates are, our
government rates are always lower. So you get a good, a good
competitive rate today. And you can get the house and pay less
for it. And then when rates drop, you can come back VA has
something that is, it's called an EARL. And that's not EARL like
your buddy EARL. It's a VA EARL I R R R L, which stands for
interest rate reduction, refinance loan. I know it's the
government, so they got to have everything spelled out that way.
But a VA EARL is fantastic for a couple reasons. One is, it's
got to be a benefit to the veteran. So if they get a home
today in the 6% interest rates, and rates drop down to 5%, they
can do a VA EARL and reduce their payment, reduce either the
payment and or the months that they owe on the on the house,
they can, we can do loans for any year, not just 30, not just
on the 30 and 15. And all that we can do that a lot of during
the refi, we'll do a lot of 23 year loans or 19 year loans,
because they'll keep the payment the same, they just drop a ton
of years, which saves them hundreds of thousands of dollars
over interest over, if you say not 10 years off, but an EARL is
non income qualifying. So you don't have to prove income. So
it's truly a, it's a, a fast interest rate reduction loan,
there's benefit to the veteran. And they've got, they got to
have two things, we run a, a mortgage only credit report, and
it just shows that they pay their mortgage on time. And if
they do, and they have that, then they qualify for an EARL,
which is an easy loan to do. So by the house now, where you
don't pay 2550 $75,000 more for that house, and then refinance
it in nine, seven months, VA loans, you have to hold the loan
for seven months to be able to do a VA EARL. So 200, actually
210 days. So that's something to take into consideration. But
that's what I'm recommending.
Yeah, so like, and I'll try to get this video out as soon as
possible. But realistically, like in today's market, where
the houses are kind of sitting longer, you know, sellers are
kind of more, they can't be as picky, right when a buyer comes
along. So they have to kind of do with, you know, maybe the
buyer has more of a little bit more power than before. And
when we're in the seller's market, so maybe the buyer can
negotiate, and we've helped buyers negotiate, you know,
$10,000 in closing costs towards there. So they get less money
out of pocket today. And VA is already have one of the lowest
out of pockets costs already, but they can get most of that
paid for by the seller. And then in a year or two, if rates do
continue to go down, like we think they will be, then they
can refinance. So they got the home today, the home continue to
appreciate three to 4% on year, you know, we typically see. So
now you're, you got the lower rate in the future, versus just
sitting on the sidelines, and then waiting, and then prices
continue to go up. And then you don't get that advantage,
because everyone else jumps back in the market, because rates
that drop, and now you're competing with everyone else
again, right?
Right. And, and a seller can give up to 4% seller
contributions on a VA loan. So if you buy a $400,000 house,
that's $16,000, we have zero down payment, 16,000 will pay
most of your closing costs and prepaid. What prepaid are, as
you know, are one year of insurance in your prepaying the
taxes. So it's a great time not to think, well, wait till
everybody's back in the market, because a couple years ago, it
was definitely a seller's market. And right now, I would
say it's kind of a buyer's market. But once rates go down,
it's going to go back to a seller's market, because it's
going to force what it's going to force people that have, you
know, their first or second home, and they're thinking about
a bigger home to have more kids, then they'll say, well, let me
sell my house, and I'll buy a bigger house. And that's, that's
the cycle that we go through.
Yeah. And we, we were talking just we, you know, have a VA
buyer that's buying right now. And we told them to like this
kind of a stronger home for them, right? There's a couple
with no kids right now. But eventually, they talk about
having kids. And it's like, hey, you can, you can either
refinance your conventional in that home in the future, if you
want, or you could keep that loan, and then go use
conventional on the next time you buy, because usually
sometimes the second time, when you're buying the VA loan, you
might not get those benefits, because you use your
entitlement. And if you're not selling that home, your
entitlement will stay with the property. But conventional, if
you can save the 5% down, like you can use that right in the
future if you want. So you can get into the first home, very
little down, build the equity over, you know, the five, seven
years while you're there, and then move up to the next house
and then keep down as a rental, and we can wash most of that
income away, or debts away with a rental property. So it's like,
I like playing the real estate game. I'm a real estate guy
myself. That's where I'm all in on. Like, and one more thing
that I'll mention, I think we can wrap this video up if the
people are still sticking around watching this is that if you are
interested in getting the VA loan, you can check out the
giftforgroup.com. We have a mortgage calculator, we have a
buyer cost calculator where you can put in the VA and show that
hey, you got zero down, what's your closing costs, give it a
good estimate of what that would be. And then obviously, we
can help you out doing the loan. And me and Amber can help you if
you want to help you find that home here in Houston market area
or anywhere in Williams, Texas. So, you know,
one thing I want to add, which is really very important. It's
the VA gives you a certain amount. It's called the
Certificate of Eligibility. And I've done a lot of loans where
somebody gets a VA loan, and they buy a $250,000 house, and
they get it, and then they want to buy another VA loan. And if
they have enough eligibility, they can buy they can have two
the people don't realize you can have two VA loans. Now you can
have a $750,000 first purchase and then try to buy another
$900,000 house on a VA loan. So if you're buying a lower priced
house, because it's your first house, there's a chance you
could keep that as a VA loan converted to an investment
property and buy another house with a VA loan if it is if you
have enough eligibility.
Yeah, it just depends on how much eligibility you have left
on your on your COE.
One other huge thing is for veterans, if they want to buy it
used to be limited to, you know, a few years ago, it's 417,000.
And then it went up to to the normal conventional limit, which
is 750 plus 1000 right now. But I've done a lot of VA loans
that are 1.4 million 1.2 million 900,000. You can go up, they
passed that ruling a couple years ago. So somebody could
buy a $1.4 million home on VA and no down. That is huge
because they're in a jumbo, they'd be putting $280,000 down
20% on a $1.4 million house. So just want to throw that in.
Also, yeah, I know that people that are buying their first
$400,000 thinking about a 1.4 million. But the person who has
a five or $600,000 house now, three more kids, they want a
bigger house. And they're a veteran, they can use their
veteran benefits to buy a jumbo home.
Yeah, no, that's great point right there being Yeah, not
having to worry about putting that 20% down on those over
$800,000 homes right now is just gonna be saving tons of money
cash, right, which then and I do think like, if it's a $800,000
house versus a $400,000 house, well, they're both kind of
gonna appreciate the same rate, right? I mean, at the $800,000
house, you're gonna see a lot more wealth built in that home
as it appreciates versus the, you know, the less expensive
home. So
plus they get VA pricing versus jumbo investor pricing. And I
could go on for 15 or 20 minutes on that I won't, I'll just tell
you, VA pricing is better than anything else you can get.
Awesome. Oh, well, hey, let's let's do this, Bob. Let's, we'll
end the video here on this one. And then we'll bring you back
and we'll talk about VA loan assumptions, because I know
that's kind of big right now with the market people are
looking at. So check out the next video with Bob, and we'll
talk about more about the VA loan assumptions.
Sounds great. Thank you, Scotty. Thanks.

