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Hello everyone, welcome to the live broadcast of Believer Radio.
I'm Lily Zhang.
Today's guest is an international human rights lawyer,
and a Chinese expert on the issue, Mr. Wu Ming-Yen.
Hello, Mr. Wu.
Hello, Lily.
Hello, everyone.
Yes, I'm going to talk about two news today.
The case of the heavy-duty industrial oil,
cloud-stored food oil,
has caused a great stir.
The gold mine oil has evaporated 6.8 billion tons in two days.
The North Vietnam Summit announced that the CCP is helping Russia in the war.
First, let's talk about the first news.
The case of the heavy-duty industrial oil, cloud-stored food oil,
has caused a great stir.
The heavy-duty industrial oil, cloud-stored food oil,
from the company's food oil brand,
has been discontinued.
This news has caused a great stir.
The next news includes
sunflower oil,
corn oil,
olive oil,
sesame oil, etc.
All of these are from the food oil brand.
I would like to ask Mr. Wu, what do you think about this?
It's really interesting.
Not long ago,
People's Daily, Xinhua News Agency,
said that China is the safest country in the world.
I don't know how to define it as safe.
Before I continue,
I would like to take this opportunity to thank
a lot of viewers.
Last time, I heard that my throat was a bit dry.
A lot of viewers left me a message in the comments,
saying that they care about my health and asked me to take care of myself.
I would like to thank everyone for your support.
Now, let's talk about the oil tanker.
In fact, in the past 20 years,
China has been constantly exposing itself to scandals
when it comes to food safety.
Do you still remember
the 2006 incident?
That time, it was a shock to the world.
The milk powder was poisoned.
The babies were eating the milk powder.
Firstly, the milk powder was not nutritious.
Secondly, the milk powder contained poison.
So, in the end, there were the so-called
big-headed babies.
It was really a tragedy.
It was really a disaster.
At that time, I want to talk about this incident
because it is a very special example.
Its origin is related to the oil tanker incident today.
The reason is the same.
What happened to the milk powder poisoning incident
in the past 20 years?
It turned out that the milk powder manufacturers
when they sold the milk powder,
there were people who would check the milk powder
to see how much protein was in it.
The higher the protein content,
the higher the price.
This is very reasonable.
Because the most important thing for babies to drink milk
is the protein content.
The black-hearted businessmen found that
although the protein content of our milk was very low,
and the milk was not very nutritious,
they could spend money to find scientists to study
how to solve this problem.
What is the problem to be solved?
They found that there was a device
to measure the protein content of the milk.
Once it was inserted into the milk,
it knew how high the protein content of the milk was.
It found that when the device touched the 3-phase cyanide,
it was a chemical.
It thought that the 3-phase cyanide was a protein.
So after they put the 3-phase cyanide into the milk,
the device found that the protein content of the milk was very high.
So they could sell it at a higher price.
So you can say that the black-hearted businessmen found that.
So this is not different.
For example, in the West,
there are some so-called scandals.
A lot of them are because someone made a mistake in the company.
They took the wrong milk,
and put the poisonous milk as if it was not poisonous.
In short, it's a human error.
These things happen.
These are also fated.
Although it's not good, it's also fated.
But like the case of San Zui Qing An,
it was completely planned.
It was deliberately made up.
It was deliberately intended to kill Ying Hai.
These people are really ungrateful.
So what's the problem with the oil tanker this time?
Maybe everyone knows.
Someone discovered it.
It's a Chinese social media.
It's a Chinese media called the New Chinese Newspaper.
A reporter discovered it.
What did he discover?
He discovered that a tanker
was loaded with coal-fired oil.
Coal-fired oil is for industrial use.
It's poisonous.
You can't drink it.
You can't eat it.
He loaded the oil with coal-fired oil.
After loading the oil,
he put all the coal-fired oil on the destination.
His car didn't even need to be washed.
He drove to another place
to help people load food oil.
Food oil.
Wow!
Food oil.
It means that 2% to 3% of food oil
is coal-fired oil.
Because basically,
the coal-fired oil is already empty.
But inside the tanker,
the inner wall is still full of coal-fired oil.
It's mixed with food oil.
Maybe it's mixed with food oil from another factory.
This factory specializes in
producing and packaging food oil.
For example, peanut oil.
The peanut oil will go into the tanker
or into the tanker.
Finally, it will appear in the supermarket.
In the end,
you and I will buy this kind of food oil.
At first,
the first reaction of Zhong Chu Liang was very bad.
What did he say?
We have set up a special investigation team
to investigate this matter.
Hey, are you kidding me?
Investigate this matter?
There is no need to investigate at all.
People have already taken pictures.
You are in the same truck.
After loading the coal-fired oil,
you can immediately load the food oil.
There is no need to investigate.
What you need to investigate is
to find out who is responsible.
And more importantly,
you need to protect the consumers.
You should immediately
remove all the food oils
that are likely to be mixed with
the coal-fired oil.
Immediately remove all of them.
And if there are customers and consumers
who find out that their health
may be related to the poisonous oil,
you can immediately inform the company.
The company will try to compensate
and deal with this matter.
This is the way of a responsible company.
I have lived in Europe for many years,
for decades.
Of course,
European companies have also
experienced this kind of thing.
But it has never happened
that the food oil was released on purpose.
But if you are not careful,
as I told you,
for example,
you are in a factory
and you are processing the food oil.
The machine in the factory
may leak the lubricant
and mix it with the food oil.
This is not on purpose.
It is possible to cause an accident.
If it is found out,
the company will immediately inform
all the distributors,
all the agents,
and all the consumers
that the food oil produced
from a certain date
to a certain date
must be discounted.
If you find out
that the food oil was produced at this time,
you can immediately come to our company
and exchange it for a discount.
And if someone thinks
that his health has been affected,
that he has been harmed,
he will ask them to immediately
apply for compensation.
This is very common.
People are very responsible.
Why?
Because a democratic country
has 8 articles.
The law
is based on the spirit
of protecting consumers.
Because they think
that businessmen are wealthier.
Consumers are free.
Even if I have a lot of money,
I can't
check the oil
before I eat it or use it.
So consumers are in a situation
where the law
protects consumers.
This is very normal.
But this company,
Zong Chu Liang,
didn't use it.
We promised to do a special inspection.
After two days,
they said that the gold-plated oil
will be discounted.
The gold-plated oil will be discounted.
Actually, it's not enough.
Discounting is the first step.
But you should immediately
apologize to all consumers
and guarantee that it won't happen again.
And compensate
all possible
oil-containing consumers.
You can immediately go to every department store
to exchange the gold-plated oil
for a clean new oil.
This is the normal way
of doing things in a democratic country.
But China is neither a normal
nor a democratic country.
So,
there is a bit of hope.
If we have hope,
we will do this.
But we have to understand
that a normal country
should be like this.
In Germany,
I met a writer
who fled to Germany
in China.
He wrote a book
called The Art of Food.
Many Chinese people know this book.
The title of the book
is The Art of Food.
What is the title?
The Art of Food in Mainland China.
It's very interesting.
This person is Chinese.
His name is Zhou Yu.
He received
support from a German foundation
and spent money to come to Germany.
Because he is in Mainland China.
It is very likely that he will be forced to
publish this book in Germany.
So, he can only
finish the next book,
The Art of Food.
He wrote it in Germany.
I was lucky to meet him.
He said to me,
you are very beautiful.
He saw something.
Because he wanted to write this book,
he was like a detective.
He went to many Chinese hotels.
He told me that
he went to a pig farm.
The pigs were on the transport belt.
The transport belt was moving very slowly.
At different stages,
they ate different foods.
At the end,
the pigs started to run away.
Slowly, the transport belt was cut off.
When he saw it,
he said, wow, it's amazing.
The production of pork was amazing every year.
He also saw the pigs were fat and beautiful.
He said, wow, it's amazing.
But suddenly,
there was a big hole in the pig farm.
Every year, the pig farm produces a lot of pigs.
Suddenly, in a corner of the pig farm,
there was another pig.
The transport belt was a thousand times bigger than the pig farm.
He asked the worker,
what is the difference between pigs and pigs on the transport belt?
The pigs on the transport belt are very beautiful.
Every pig is fat and beautiful.
The worker said,
hey, old friend,
do you think we are stupid?
We don't eat those pigs.
These pigs are for us to eat.
Ha ha.
This conversation revealed a little secret.
What is it?
The pigs on the transport belt were mass-produced.
They mixed chemical powder in the feed.
This chemical powder made the pigs look beautiful,
healthy,
and very little fat.
Although the pigs were fat,
their teeth were strong,
and their bodies were white.
Their bodies were beautiful.
But,
when the pigs started to eat the feed mixed with chemical powder,
he said,
a few months later,
the pigs had to be slaughtered.
Why?
Because otherwise they would die.
Why would they die?
Because these poisons made the pigs look beautiful.
After slaughtering,
the pigs were kept in the market for a few days.
They didn't deteriorate.
The consumers saw that the meat was beautiful,
the color was beautiful,
everything was beautiful.
Of course, the pigs were very healthy.
But,
when they ate the poisonous powder,
it would destroy their internal organs.
So, when the pigs started to eat these things,
a few months later,
all of their internal organs would be destroyed.
But, before they were destroyed,
the pigs looked beautiful.
So, they had to,
after they were given the poison,
for example,
after 5 months,
they all had to die.
So, after 3 or 4 months,
they had to be slaughtered.
Do you think
this is a black heart?
This is a black heart.
This is not right.
This is a mistake.
This is not an accident.
So,
for me,
the car accident
is a blessing.
Actually,
the food safety
in mainland China
has never improved.
There has always been food security.
Food security
does not only require
a lot of money and human resources
to control the food security.
More importantly,
it requires a high level of ethics.
Ethics is very important.
And,
a lot of Chinese businessmen
and businesswomen
are doing everything
for money,
for fame,
not for anything else.
They are doing everything
for money,
not for fame,
not for anything else.
This kind of ethics
is terrible.
A country
can only suffer
from endless disasters
because of human ethics.
More and more people
in mainland China
are being corrupted by ethics.
I have told you many times
and many people have told me
that Xi Jinping
should not bring
Deng Xiaoping to Taiwan
and open the border
between China and Taiwan.
This is only one side of the story.
In fact, Deng Xiaoping
has committed another crime
against China
and its people,
which is corruption of ethics.
As you may know,
he said,
black cat catches white cat,
catching a mouse is a good cat.
What he meant was
in the early 1980s,
some Communists
were still arguing
whether capitalism
or socialism
is good.
Or, if you do this,
you can't do that.
You have to do this.
You are a capitalist.
When they argued,
Deng Xiaoping came out
and said a few words
and everyone stopped arguing.
What did he say?
He said, it doesn't matter
whether it is capitalism or socialism.
As long as it benefits us,
we can do it.
He used the sentence,
black cat catches white cat,
catching a mouse is a good cat.
It sounds like
a very wise statement,
a very honest statement.
Because black cat catches white cat,
catching a mouse is a good cat.
He said, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter
what you do.
As long as you achieve your goal,
it's a good thing.
That's it.
This kind of thinking
is a great
So now,
every day,
China has to eat
bad fruit every day.
Today's
oil tanker
scandal,
the milk powder scandal
it's all because
after 1949,
the Chinese Communist Party
destroyed China's
traditional
humanistic morality.
In the past,
they always engaged in class struggle
to fight
and fight.
They advocated
that people should
fight well,
and advocated
the theory of black cat catching a mouse.
China's
morality
is getting worse.
It's getting worse.
We can't do anything
about it now.
So I think
the issue of food security
can't be solved.
The only thing
that needs to be solved
is the new China
without the Communist Party.
Without the Communist Party,
there is no food security.
Because
a country with a
one-party dictatorship
and a Communist dictatorship
is inevitable.
A lot of people
will be ruined.
They will be killed.
The ancient Chinese
have warned us
that when a country
ignores
a society,
people will not
prosper.
It will be a disaster.
So the milk powder
and the car accident
and the poisonous
food are
a disaster.
A disaster
is a warning
from God.
So people will not
prosper.
A lot of people will not
prosper.
On the other hand,
everyone can do national security.
Everyone can do national security.
So everyone remember
this sentence.
A truly
good future
must be done
by everyone.
At least most people
can do it.
Then there will be
national security.
Yes, that's right.
Let's talk about the second news.
On July 9-11,
held a summit in Washington, D.C.
According to the UN draft,
the leaders pointed out
that the CCP
is helping to promote
Russian war machines.
The draft also
introduced in detail
that the CCP is providing
weapons, equipment,
raw materials,
and military supplies
to the Russian defense
This is a decisive factor
for Russia to continue
its war with Ukraine.
Mr. Wu, what do you think?
I was watching
the draft of the draft.
When I was watching it,
I felt like,
hey,
did they
listen to my comments?
It's possible.
Why?
Because what they said
was the same as
what I said two and a half years ago.
When Russia
launched a war
against Ukraine,
I don't know if this channel
is related to it.
I have a lot of channels,
maybe five or six,
talking about
this matter.
At that time,
when Putin
launched the war,
I immediately said,
the CCP is the
biggest traitor.
Not only
does it support
Russia,
it is the biggest traitor.
At that time,
I said,
the whole world,
in the eyes of the CCP,
the Russian-Ukrainian war
is just one of
the whole world's
tricks.
They are
behind the scenes,
what are they doing?
They are behind the scenes.
They are not
an ordinary backstage.
At that time,
I told everyone,
I don't know
Xi Jinping, I don't know
Putin, but we know
that before Putin
launched
an invasion of Ukraine,
where was he?
In Beijing.
Why did he go to Beijing?
On the surface,
to participate in
the 2022 Winter Olympics
opening ceremony.
But everyone saw
when the opening ceremony was held,
Putin was sitting there.
He had no intention of
watching the opening ceremony.
Why? He had the intention
that the day before,
he and Xi Jinping
had a secret meeting
for 7 hours.
That is
important.
At that time, I said,
what did they say?
Putin said,
I am ready to
destroy Ukraine.
But it is very likely that the US and the West
will sanction me,
the economy will sanction me.
Can you help me?
Putin said, no problem,
I promise you,
but you have to sell it to me at a lower price.
From the beginning,
Putin was willing to ask.
Only the economic support
is not enough for me.
I need weapons.
My military factories
cannot produce
so many weapons
Xi Jinping said,
no problem,
we have a lot of weapons.
If we don't have enough,
the North Korea
will help.
So from the first day,
the Chinese Communist Party
has been fully involved in
the Uyghur war.
The Chinese Communist Party
has also been fully involved in
Hamas's attack on Israel.
So
when I saw
the announcement of the North Korea,
I felt
honored.
Finally,
the Western politicians
understand
that the biggest enemy
is not Russia.
The biggest enemy
is the instability
in the world today.
There is no peace in this world.
We are under serious threat.
The biggest enemy
is the CCP.
A few days ago,
I also heard
the U.S. House of Representatives
Chairman Johnson
in Hudson,
Hudson,
the research center
gave a speech.
I was also very happy.
He was also
very clear about
what was happening in this world.
Because if this world
goes wrong,
we will be in trouble.
If the strongest country in the world,
such as the U.S. and North Korea,
think that
the biggest enemy
is Russia
and not the CCP,
we will be in trouble.
Because,
just like everything else,
if you
the reality,
your decisions will be wrong.
If you think that Russia
is the biggest enemy,
you will use all your military power
to fight against Russia.
Then the CCP will win.
It will attack
the East and the West.
It is now
attacking the East and the West.
Because it wants to
attack Taiwan.
The West is also
a war between Hawaii and
the United States.
So it is attacking the East and the West.
If we
see the U.S.
Secretary General
I am very happy. Why?
He has two
very clear points.
First,
it has been attacking
not China.
He made it very clear.
It is the Chinese Communist Party.
They often say
Chinese Communist Party
or CCP.
It has always been like this.
This is very accurate.
It does not want to deal with China.
Of course, it does not want to deal with China.
It wants to deal with
these ungrateful
rascals,
the Chinese Communist Party.
The second point is
it is very
obvious that it is
attacking the CCP.
It has made it very clear.
Why did I mention him?
After his speech,
he immediately attended
the 75th anniversary
celebration of North Korea.
He must have talked
a lot with the leaders of North Korea.
I think
American leaders
and North Korean leaders
have reached a consensus.
For example,
President Trump
made it very clear.
He said,
our enemy in the US
is an evil alliance.
This evil alliance
has China,
Russia,
North Korea,
Venezuela,
Iran and Cuba.
Their leader
is China.
It is very clear.
When he opened the door,
he said, the problem of the world
is here.
It is very clear.
He did not just say that.
He said,
the US Senate
has prepared
a lot of bills
and bills.
We will pass all of them before the end of the year.
These bills
are all to prevent the CCP
from
actually
plundering
the CCP.
That is,
to prevent the CCP from
controlling the CCP.
This is very,
very important.
If we Western democracies,
not only Western democracies,
but all democracies,
do not recognize this,
what will happen?
All of us,
the US and North Korea,
will be in great trouble.
But if we clearly
know where the problem is,
and can concentrate
our forces
to solve these problems,
then
the world
will slowly
become a peaceful place.
But before it is peaceful,
there will definitely be
big change,
a big change.
Xi Jinping said a big change.
He wants
to replace the US
with a big change.
From the CCP to dominate the world.
Johnson,
the important
US President,
his last words
were the same as
what I said
in my
recent speech
in the European Parliament.
I spoke about
China's economy,
human rights,
and the role
of the CCP
in various wars.
At the end of my speech,
I said
some people think
it doesn't matter who
dominates the world,
whether it is the US,
or the CCP.
I said, sorry,
there is a big difference.
We still have
the freedom to choose.
You can choose
whether the CCP
dominates the world,
that is,
do you want to
be a dictator
and a tyrant
who kills people
for the sake of justice,
a very cruel
regime,
and be its slave
to listen to its words and order.
That is your choice.
That is the right thing to do.
Another choice is
if you are not willing
to be its slave.
你做一個有做人嘅尊嚴嘅人,一個自由嘅人,一個係天賦火才,有自我主權嘅,主權歸人民嘅一個人。
今次呢個係咁講,in God we trust,你係承認你係一個神嘅一份子,神嘅子弟,咁你就可以有另一種選擇,做一個自由嘅人。
咁呢今次呢個北約嘅公佈呢,精神非常絕人。
另外呢,今次有一個特點,北約非常開門見山咁講,話北約唔會淨係局限於大西洋。
因為大家知道,北約嘅意思係北大西洋,北大西洋係北美同歐洲。
但係佢已經講咗開門見山咁講,北約唔會局限於呢一個地區,即係話唔會局限於歐洲,亦都會參與保衛世界和其他地區嘅戰事。
咁呢邊個地區呢?亞太地區。點解呢?因為好明顯,佢哋已經係第三次邀請亞太地區嘅國家去參加北約嘅大會。
亞太地區嘅關係,係美國、澳大利亞、日本、韓國出嚟分手。
有一次好明顯,亦都邀請咗印度嘅國家,呢個係西方自由國家嘅大聯合。
即係我諗呢,如果西方同埋民主國家、自由世界國家真係聯手嘅話,同埋有個好清楚嘅認識,中共嘅本質係非常邪惡。
能夠將中共同中國明顯咁分開,咁我個人認為,我哋嘅前途就會有啲幫助。
北約國家仲打算喺明年向烏克蘭提供至少400億歐元嘅資金,並建立一個機制向烏克蘭提供軍事裝備同埋培訓。
除此之外,盟國仲將承諾支持烏克蘭全面融入歐洲,包括加入北約。
咁喺盟國同意並滿足條件嘅情況下,烏克蘭發出加入北約嘅邀請,呢個真係對於烏克蘭嚟講係一個非常之好嘅消息。
係,但係對於俄羅斯嚟講就唔好,因為俄羅斯一路喺佢哋嘅宣傳同中共嘅宣傳係咁。
話今次挑起戰爭嘅唔係俄羅斯,係北約。點解呢?
因為北約東擴張,謀求將烏克蘭挖入佢哋嘅北約嘅範圍之內。
所以呢,就激嬲俄羅斯,俄羅斯受到北約嘅威脅,所以俄羅斯被迫採取特別軍事行動,非常荒唐嘅說辭。
因為第一,係烏克蘭想加入北約,北約務強迫烏克蘭要加入。
相反,好多年嚟烏克蘭曾經多次要求加入北約,但係北約都話條件未成熟,要佢等一等。
即使北約又話條件已成熟,歡迎你成為會員。
咁俄羅斯都冇理由因為咁樣打烏克蘭,好荒唐。
即係等於,我一個鄰居,佢想同遠一啲嘅鄰居做好友,非常好嘅好友。
咁我作為鄰居話,喂,你唔好同佢做咁好好友喎,你咁樣會係等於北約東擴呀,你威脅我呀。
你如果同佢做咁好友好,我就唔客氣啦。
呢啲俄羅斯嘅邏輯,但係好有意思嘅係咩呢?
受到中共宣傳影響嘅一啲中國人,佢哋真係咁樣相信。
真係咁樣,好奇怪。
所以今次呢係呢個大勢已出嘅。
即係因為西方呢係有啲,對我嚟講有啲建制錯誤。
對我嚟講好早好早,呢個烏克蘭戰爭呢,係中共係一路有好參與。
同埋呢,對我嚟講一路都係中共係最大嘅推手。
中共係罪魁禍首。
所以呢,佢哋一路未明確呢一點呢,就對西方好得利。
而家好明確。
係呀,而家明確咗呢個,原來中共先係真正嘅罪魁禍首。
明確咗呢一點呢,就好辦啦。
咁以後慢慢就會即係話解決呢個中共啦。
咁睇吓吳生有冇補充。
即係好多人呢,仲相信習近平嗰套,乜嘢東升西降。
即係西方啲國家呢,係某種方面係有啲抗體㗎。
即係因為全球都係道德敗壞,包括西方國家道德都係喺度下滑。
不過我希望呢,由於西方嘅體制咁樣,佢哋會比較早發現自己道德層次嘅問題。
就會採取行動去糾正呢個問題㗎啦。
但係東升有冇咁嘅事呀?其實冇咁嘅事。
唯一嘅所謂東升就係表面上嗰啲物質上嘅力量。
即係中共嘅物質力量似乎好似比以前大咗。
戰船比以前多咗好多條呀,火箭又多咗好多隻呀。
但係問題就係中共佢嘅內部穩定性係非常大嘅。
你大家諗下啦,一個泱泱大國,兩任嘅國防部長都被指為腐敗同埋不忠誠。
喂,你點打仗呀?你點樣去鼓勵你啲軍心呀?
兩任喎,一任你都話係一種偶然事件啦。
唔係喎,一個完之後又一個喎。
嗰個外交部長循環到今時今日嘅嘢係一個謎㗎喎。
火箭軍最犀利嘅總司令員又話係腐敗,你點樣打仗?
因為我一路都係咁講,打仗除咗軍火之外,武器之外,第一方面就係軍心,士氣,民情。
而家中國內地因為經濟問題,道德問題,民情係絕對比共產黨佢哋大過德國。
國際上中共係遠離你哋孤立,咁你點樣會真係做到世界霸主呀?
呢啲係白日作物,以為喺俄羅斯,伊朗同埋北朝鮮呢啲國家支持之下就可以做到世界霸主,仍然係白日作物。
好嘅,多謝大家,多謝吳生,咁我哋下次見。
我哋接住就有閻巴巴直播嘅,同吳生一齊直播下。
歡迎大家繼續收睇下,一陣我哋再見。
15分鐘。
係啦,15分鐘再見,拜拜。
拜拜。
