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Hello everyone, welcome to the live broadcast of the Believer's Forum
I am Lily Cheung, a believer
Today's guest is Mr. Hsueh-Yu-Yin Hsueh, a speaker from Hong Kong's Sha Tin District
Hsueh-Yu-Yin, hello
Hello everyone, I am Hsueh-Yu-Yin Hsueh
Nice to meet you all
Yes, the Executive Board of the Executive Committee of the Executive Committee on the Pro-Believer's Forum
The Executive Committee on the Pro-Believer's Forum announced that the school would be closed due to the police freezing the funds
Mr. Hsueh would like to talk to everyone about this incident
Please, Mr. Hsueh
If everyone remembers, last year, I think it was last year
This year, I think I have mentioned the incident of the Pro-Believer's Forum once
At that time, my position was that I hoped that the two people in charge of the Pro-Believer's Forum
The two people in charge of the Pro-Believer's Forum would explain the matter
As for this incident, I have some friends in the UK
Who have different opinions on this matter, and even quarrelled with us
But up to this day, the incident has progressed to this day
My position has not changed
And I have learned more, and I feel that the Pro-Believer's Forum is problematic
Especially dealing with this type of issue is problematic
Today, I would like to talk to everyone in detail about what happened
To be honest, if these people
I am not playing a political game
If there are some people with problems, organizational problems
Who have come to the UK with funds with problems
To do something, some of our friends
Or some so-called workers here
Who are taking their money to speak up for them
It's really hard to influence the whole of us
British people, that is, the union of British Hongkongers
And their understanding of the incident
To be honest, I see that the same person is facing
It's not simple, if you do the same thing
He will shout out and strongly oppose
But facing the Pro-Believer's Forum
Carrie Lam and Charles Chan
They may do something for many reasons
To defend them
The reason is that they may have taken a sum of money
And have some influence
So we have a responsibility to correct this
Let's talk about the Pro-Believer's Forum and the Pro-Believer's Forum
These two organizations
In fact, the Pro-Believer's Forum was founded first
It was founded in 1985
The founder is Carrie Lam
She was originally a Christian
It's a charity organization for re-education
This is a meeting that was set up a little earlier
The Pro-Believer's Forum was founded in 1998
It is mainly a private
Do a private education service
Of course, the focus is on education
You can see that the Pro-Believer's Forum
Is actually an organization under the Pro-Believer's Forum
This is a basic information
And the Pro-Believer's Forum has a bank account
It also accepts donations
And did you hear that, Lily?
The Pro-Believer's Forum also has its own bank account
I heard
It has also accepted donations
I know two more things
The Pro-Believer's Forum and the Pro-Believer's Forum
It has its own bank account
Can also accept donations independently
This information is very important to us
So everyone should know
I just said
The Pro-Believer's Forum is an organization under the Pro-Believer's Forum
And the Pro-Believer's Forum has been operating for so many years
In fact, it relies on the Pro-Believer's Forum to raise funds
At this part, we do one
Before this happened
Many people still don't understand
What is the Pro-Believer's Forum?
But most Hongkongers, including me
I believe including myself
Will know who the Pro-Believer's Forum is
Because this is a middle school in Lido
It is very iconic
So people can easily remember it
But we have just discovered
The Pro-Believer's Forum and the Pro-Believer's Forum
Are two organizations
One is a public company, the other is a private company
And the Pro-Believer's Forum
Has always relied on the Pro-Believer's Forum to raise funds
It is very strange
If many people have donated to the Pro-Believer's Forum
You will feel that you have donated your money to the Pro-Believer's Forum
Why does it still rely on the Pro-Believer's Forum?
Where is the reason?
This is what we are going to talk about today
Okay, how did the incident start?
It started in January of this year
The police issued a press conference
They said that they were suing several people in charge of the Pro-Believer's Forum
Including Chen Shaochun, Lam Hsing, and Chen Youzhi
Why did they sue them?
At the same time, they froze the funds of the Pro-Believer's Forum
As you know, as I mentioned earlier
Since the operation of the Pro-Believer's Forum has a long-term constraint
That is, it is not paid
So it relies on the funds of the Pro-Believer's Forum to operate
So because of the funds of the Pro-Believer's Forum
After it was frozen by the police in January
There was no way
So many teachers of the Pro-Believer's Forum are now in pursuit of pay
Even on July 7th, the Pro-Believer's Forum will be closed
Okay, why did the police take this action?
Where is the origin?
Because on October 27, 2020
The headmaster of the Pro-Believer's Forum, Chen Shaochun
Published a Facebook ad
This ad is very important
So I will read it to everyone
He said so
His title is called the Pro-Believer's Forum Assistance Plan
This title is very clear
To do something for the Pro-Believer's Forum Assistance Plan
He said so
Due to the impact of the pandemic and the economic downturn
The Pro-Believer's Forum received donations in 2020
The school's future is at a critical juncture
More than 60 teachers of the Pro-Believer's Forum need everyone's support
I sincerely urge everyone to support and join the Pro-Believer's Forum Assistance Plan
Whether it is a monthly donation or a one-time donation
It is to bring hope and love to the students of the Pro-Believer's Forum
There is a school that has established a long-term plan
Every penny donated by the Pro-Believer's Forum Assistance Plan
Will be used as a second door for students to start their lives
And a link to the donation will be provided
This is the origin of the pro-Believer's Forum Assistance Plan
It is true that after Chen Shaochun published the ad
He did receive a large amount of donations in a very short period of time
At that time, he claimed that the donation was for the purpose of the Pro-Believer's Forum Assistance Plan
In this situation, the police also pointed out that
In 2020-2023, a large amount of bank deposits from the Pro-Believer's Forum Assistance Plan
Were transferred to Hong Kong, worth more than 50 million Hong Kong dollars
Everyone needs to know one thing
At that time, the Pro-Believer's Forum Assistance Plan
Chen Shaochun received the donation from the Pro-Believer's Forum Assistance Plan
The next question ishy
I mentioned earlier that both the Pro-Believer's Forum Assistance Plan and the Pro-Believer's Union
Both have bank deposits and will accept donations
Why was the Pro-Believer's Forum Assistance Plan's donation
Used for a Pro-Believer's Forum Assistance Plan, not a Pro-Believer's Forum Assistance Plan?
And if you ised a Pro-Believer's Forum Assistance Plan
To receive donations, you would have used a Pro-Believer's Forum Assistance Plan
To provide donations, it is clear from before
There won't be a problem of accounting
It won't even lead to the appearance of the police
To confiscate your assets
And then to stop the registration of your ID
So there are two sides to the police case
First, at the end of 2020, Chen Chiao-chiu went to collect money
After collecting the money, he got a lot of funds
From 2020 to 2023, a large amount of money was transferred to Hong Kong
One of the main places he went to was the UK
I believe that any ordinary person
Regardless of whether you are a blue or yellow
If you see a charity organization with such a problem
You are also a reasonable suspect
So I don't think
Until now, I don't think
The Hong Kong police are looking at these numbers
Looking at these actions
They suspect that there is a problem with your ID number
I don't think the police have any problem in this aspect
Of course, whether this case can prove your ID
No, but at least as an ordinary person
We also hope to know what happened
Okay, after this happened
The three people who were called did not respond
Until recently, they started to respond
But I think their response
Including Chen Chiao-chiu and Lam Hsing-hsing
I think their response can't explain
What we asked them to explain in this year's program
First of all, in the two people's responses
Chen Chiao-chiu's response is relatively simple
And Lam Hsing-hsing's response is relatively long
So I will explain the detailed response of Lam Hsing-hsing
In my question
As for Chen Chiao-chiu's response
It's relatively simple
So I can read it now
How did he respond?
He emphasized that he has never embezzled funds from the Politburo
In relation to the operation of the British stock market, the Politburo, and the Academy of Books
This sentence is more abstract
But how do I interpret it?
He may just want to say
He said, in fact, the funds in the UK are not affected
The funds from the UK are not affected
The operation of the Hong Kong Politburo and the Academy of Books
Maybe that's what Chen Chiao-chiu meant
Because I'm just guessing
Because this sentence is not very specific
But why can't this sentence respond to the police's suspicion?
Because the police's suspicion is not that
The Academy of Books or the Politburo
Is not enough to operate funds in Hong Kong
The police's suspicion is that
You used Facebook to raise funds in the name of political life
After raising a large amount of funds
You transferred the funds to Hong Kong and went to other countries
This is likely to be a crime
So Chen Chiao-chiu's response and the police's case
Basically have nothing to do with each other
So why did I say that his response
Can't respond to what I want to know?
This is a little conundrum
Because there is a member of the Sha Tin District who came with me from Hong Kong
I had dinner with him one night
He knew that I had done a program
Criticized the Academy of Books, Chen Chiao-chiu
These people
He suddenly told me that night
Chen Chiao-chiu has responded now
Should you apologize to him?
At that time, I didn't know what Chen Chiao-chiu had responded
What was the situation at that time?
My friend, not a friend, but a former colleague told me
I can't help but get involved
Because this colleague also knows Chen Chiao-chiu
What happened in the middle?
Our response
Have they discussed it between the two of them?
So I really say
If some of these funds from Hong Kong
After coming to the UK, it has some influence
It will really have a great impact on our circle
Including my previous organization
Because this matter needs to fight with the people in the organization
In addition, my former colleague in Hong Kong, a member of the Sating District Council
Will be involved in this matter
There will actually be a fight
So a series of clips will make me feel
Actually, this matter should be handled more seriously
If we want to operate better in this circle
We really have to adhere to what Spoken Kong said
To be honest, to be honest
To be honest, he said
For such funds, for such people
We should treat them with the same standard
Our HK can be restored
It's not because we will call a few more slogans
And hold a few more meetings
If Hong Kong has a future
First of all, everyone should have a very logical and rational
To investigate each incident independently
Okay, let's continue
After the police case
I will see if the police case is true
The first thing is that when Zheng Shenshuyuan wanted to raise funds
Was their economic difficulties real?
I am the same as everyone else
I am also a public opinion of the police
Through the Internet, I can see some news clips
And their response from Chen Shaoshuai and Lam Hsing
I just came to a conclusion and told you about a program
I didn't do it alone
I also didn't give a lot of money to do the so-called investigation
To investigate their accounts
I am just like an ordinary person
I can get the information
And tell you some of my personal opinions
So this is something that anyone can do
You don't need to give money
You don't need to know who gave you the information
I can tell you these things
Everyone can tell you these things
First of all, Zheng Shenshuyuan at the end of 2020
Before he raised the funds
Was Zheng Shenshuyuan's financial situation real?
You know Zheng Shenshuyuan
Supported by the Zheng Shenhui Foundation
So the first thing we look at is whether Zheng Shenshuyuan has a fortune
The second thing we look at is whether the Zheng Shenhui Foundation has a fortune
You can see that it is
Zheng Shenshuyuan in 2018 and 2019
In the two years before the fund raised
You can see that his donations and income are declining
But Zheng Shenshuyuan's donations and income are almost the same
There is no significant change
So with his donations and income
Can you really see whether Zheng Shenshuyuan has a fortune?
You can't see it, you don't know
So it is very necessary for them to explain
What exactly is the fortune of Zheng Shenshuyuan at that moment?
Because to be honest, I saw some news
In fact, in 2019, the donation and income of Zheng Shenshuyuan was really low
But Zheng Shenshuyuan was not affected
In theory, if the Zheng Shenhui Foundation was not affected
His money should continue to support Zheng Shenshuyuan
So why can't they do this?
This is to be explained
In addition, although I can't see through some news
I don't know this
It's not fair, I don't know
I just say I don't know
I don't know if it is true
But we will take a series of actions in the future
To transfer Hong Kong's assets
We will re-evaluate whether it is really a fortune or not
I will have a more indirect evidence to tell you
Whether Zheng Shenshuyuan's fortune is true or not
Some indirect evidence
I don't have a direct evidence
OK, the second thing
According to the police case
We will have a second question
Why did the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
Use the Zheng Shenshui Foundation's account to accept donations?
This is very important
For example, if you want to raise funds for Zheng Shenshuyuan
Because Zheng Shenshuyuan is not enough to spend
You use his name to raise funds
The money is used on him
Very reasonable, use it on him
Of course, use his donation account to collect money
Then the situation will not be chaotic
If you do this, it will not lead to today
The situation will change today
It doesn't take a long time
Because to be honest
After Chen Xiaochun started raising funds
In fact, in 2020, 2021 and 2022
The donations received by the Zheng Shenshui Foundation are very exaggerated
If this donation can be transferred to Zheng Shenshuyuan
I believe it can last for many years
And the public, even the office
Because the office will also give out donations
To the students of Zheng Shenshuyuan to pay for their education
If in 2020 to 2022
The money received by the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
I will talk about how much money in a while
Can be directly transferred to the account of Zheng Shenshui Foundation
In fact, this money can be used for a long time
It won't appear today
The police have notified
Zheng Shenshui Foundation has suspended
This is the problem
OK, I just mentioned a question
Why did the Zheng Shenshui Foundation use his own account to accept donations?
Recently, Carrie Lam received an interview
She said this
Because she is
I guess, she didn't respond directly
But I guess she responded to this
She said it was for money
The money she raised at that time
It was for money
Zheng Shenshui Foundation is for money
The Zheng Shenshui Foundation took Zheng Shenshui Foundation's money for no reason
You owe me money
You return it to me
Can't I do social service?
This is Carrie Lam's response
When we asked
Why did Carrie Lam raise a fund
Why did she use the account of the Zheng Shenshui Foundation to raise funds?
Why didn't she use the account of Zheng Shenshui Foundation to raise funds?
I saw Carrie Lam's recent response
It seems that she is responding to this
She said it was for money
It's not that the Zheng Shenshui Foundation took Zheng Shenshui Foundation's money for no reason
You owe me money
Can't you return it to me?
Can't I do social service?
This is Carrie Lam's original statement
If she did this part
As a bystander, what do you think, Lili?
I have to take a look
First of all, I think
I think a lot of viewers
Will take the Zheng Shenshui Foundation and Zheng Shenhui Foundation
Actually, it's a mix of both
So I don't quite understand now
What is the difference between the two?
The two units
This is my question
But if you have this impression
Ordinary audience
You don't understand the difference between the Zheng Shenshui Foundation and the Zheng Shenyuan Foundation
In fact, you think there is no difference
But it turns out that Carrie Lam, the founder, thinks there is a big difference
She even said that Zheng Shenshui Foundation is in need of Zheng Shenshui Foundation's money
In fact, I think this concept is very confusing
How to get money from her?
Because Zheng Shenshui Foundation is a relatively large
Provide a larger service
Is it specializing in welfare education?
Zheng Shenshui Foundation is an organization under the Zheng Shenhui Foundation
It specializes in some middle school education
Help some educated youth
Study in it and teach them how to return to the right path
That is, the scope of the Zheng Shenhui Foundation is a little bigger
And the scope of the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
The scope of the work is smaller
Now you understand
Under such circumstances
If you have a sum of money from the Zheng Shenhui Foundation
Of course, that sum of money is used to help people quit drugs
Sometimes you give the money to the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
It turns out that this behavior is that the Zheng Shenshui Foundation is in need of your money
If you are Zheng Shenshui Foundation
If you really want to donate other funds
To other institutions or to other services
Yesterday, the providers of other services are also in need of your money
This makes me feel very confused
Because I absolutely believe
The money the Zheng Shenshui Foundation owns
The largest part of the start-up capital should be given to the public
To the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
To help people who have no intention of entering society
To quit drugs
Under such circumstances
Whether you use this money for the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
Whether it is used for other services
It's all the same
Why does it eventually become
You donate this money to the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
It will be in need of your money
This is my first question
The second thing is
If it's good, I really think
It's really weird
I really think Zheng Shenshui Foundation is in need of your Zheng Shenshui Foundation
Why did Chen Xiaochun not make it clear when she started the crowdfunding
That it was for money?
Right?
She made it clear at that time
The money she donated was to help others
Not for money
Right?
So why is it that a person
After being questioned
He dare not say anything
The more he says, the more wrong he is
So from now on, Lin Hsing-cheng
To face the doubts of the media
I know you have some problems with your words
It turns out that you have been a public figure for so many years
Give some money to the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
It turns out that the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
Donated the money to the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
You treat it as borrowing money
The public will be very angry
What? Borrowing money?
It turns out that after borrowing money
You can
This is my own personal tactic
It turns out that you treat
In those two years
You received almost one hundred million in donations from the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
In 2020, 2021, and 2022
You received one hundred million in donations
So how much money belongs to the people who donated to the Zheng Shenshui Foundation?
How much is it?
Treat it as borrowing money and giving it back to the Zheng Shenshui Foundation?
Is this what you should do?
It should be
If your purpose at the beginning
The purpose of setting up this crowdfunding
Is to hope that the Zheng Shenshui Foundation will return the money to the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
Do you understand what the Zheng Shenshui Foundation is until now?
You understand, right?
I hope you understand
If you were there at that time
You say
If you really say
Donated so much money
The purpose of the public donating so much money
Is to hope that those young people who have been on the wrong path
Can go back to the right path
The purpose of donating so much money is like this
If it is useless in this respect
I think there will be a problem
You are right
The funds received by the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
No matter what the public and government donates
The funds given to the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
Is to help those who have been poisoned to return to the right path
If you donate some money
The Zheng Shenshui Foundation will do these things
It's a good thing
Why do you think the Zheng Shenshui Foundation will take your money?
And this time
At the end of 2020
Chen Shaozhe's 8-year-old savings was actually paid back
This is a great incentive for the public
Okay, if you really want to pay back
Really need to pay back
Then why don't you use the Zheng Shenshui Foundation's account to collect money?
It's clearer
If you want to pay back
Then the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
It's clear that you have to pay back
If the public is willing to donate a portion of money for you to pay back
Then you enter the Zheng Shenshui Foundation's account
Then pay back as much money as you can
The amount will be very clear
But it's not
In Chen Shaozhe's post
There is no mention of not paying back
And did not use the Zheng Shenshui Foundation's account to collect money
So how much money is there to donate to the Zheng Shenshui Foundation?
No one knows
Because he didn't write it clearly
If you donate to the Zheng Shenshui Foundation, you write to the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
If you donate to the Zheng Shenshui Foundation, it means you donate to the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
No
All his accounts are a mess
To this point
People will continue to support the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
Saying that doing this is no problem
I really call him to eat
Why?
I am now in the organization
With my colleagues to argue about this
I am still very unhappy
So I am really lucky now
I am now out of the organization
So I don't need to go to the organization when I talk now
This is the second point
Why use the Zheng Shenshui Foundation's account to accept donations
Recently, Carrie Lam had a response
I think the response is a bit vague
So everyone can look at the related responses
Okay, the account of the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
Use the name of the Zheng Shenshui Foundation to donate
After the post appeared
How much money did the Zheng Shenshui Foundation raise?
Think about it
Before this post
In 2017, 2018, 2019
The Zheng Shenshui Foundation received 6.68 million yuan in 2017
4.60 million yuan in 2018
6.40 million yuan in 2019
It's 2020
What time is 2020?
It is the year in which the post of the Zheng Shenshui Foundation was launched
In that year, the number of donations received by the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
Reached 45.34 million
In 2021, the number of donations received by the Zheng Shenshui Foundation reached 38.04 million
In 2022, it will be even less
20.76 million
You see, in the first three years
In the first three years before the post happened
In the first three years after the post of the fund was launched
The number of donations can be seen clearly
Can you see it?
You can see it
This data can't be deceived
I just found it on the Internet
In this case
As a person, I have a very reasonable speculation
In 2022, the fund will be even less
The reason is that Hong Kong citizens want to help the Zheng Shenshui Foundation continue to operate
To raise funds
If you reduce the total amount of donations from 2020 to 2022
Reduce the total amount of donations from 2017 to 2019
That is, the total amount before the fund
You can see that the total amount will be more than 8,500 million
This amount of money
I believe it can be operated for a long time by the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
The students' good deeds can also be greatly improved
The problem is, where is this money now?
I will talk about it in the future
And many teachers in that school are very miserable
They are in their 70s
If they listen to my program
They will blame me for being in my 70s for so many years
They will feel very discouraged
I think they will be quite discouraged
Why do I have to talk about it?
How to compare the fund
The post
The comparison of the past three years and the next three years
I want to say
You use the name Zheng Shenshui Foundation to raise funds
How powerful
Like Lily said
Many Hong Kong citizens can't tell what Zheng Shenshui Foundation is
Many people know what Zheng Shenshui Foundation is
So when people hear the name Zheng Shenshui Foundation, they want to raise funds
They immediately donate money
And donate a very exaggerated amount
But the Zheng Shenshui Foundation uses its own account to raise funds
And now Carrie Lam came out and said
It turns out that the money is paid
After the public heard this, I believe what you said will be very suspicious
Okay, after talking about the recent donation figures of Zheng Shenshui Foundation
After the comparison
Let's talk about why
In 2020, Chen Zhaochung posted a post
After Zheng Shenshui Foundation experienced a very serious financial crisis
You will be in 2020-2023
I'm talking about liquidity
Can be used to pay for food
Some immediate assets will be transferred to Hong Kong in large quantities
According to the police figures, it is 50 million
50 million, what kind of money is this?
Because I can't see what kind of money it is
Because the account used to raise funds is the account of the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
I can't see what kind of money is donated to Zheng Shenshui Foundation
I can't see what kind of money belongs to Zheng Shenshui Foundation
But we can also logically guess
The first 50 million is
May be in 2020-2023
Hong Kong citizens donated to Zheng Shenshui Foundation
Hope to help Zheng Shenshui Foundation run money
This is one possibility
Transfer 50 million
The second possibility is
Just now I said money other than money
That is, it is not the money donated by Hong Kong citizens to Zheng Shenshui Foundation in 2020-2023
There are only two possibilities
The two together are all the funds of the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
Because I am not very clear
I don't know the main elements of the formation of all funds of the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
But we can divide it into two parts
The first part is from 2020-2023
The money donated by Hong Kong citizens to Zheng Shenshui Foundation in 2020-2023
To help it run
And the money other than this money
So which money is it that transferred to Hong Kong?
It can never be
The money donated by Hong Kong citizens to Zheng Shenshui Foundation in 2020-2023
Because we made it clear that it is for Zheng Shenshui Foundation to run
So it is absolutely impossible to donate money to Hong Kong citizens
This amount of money is relatively large
If the initial estimation is
The three years of donation is more than 100 million
But if you subtract the money that the Zheng Shenshui Foundation has received for a long time
It's more than 80 million
Right?
The 80 million
In the eyes of the bystanders
It should be used by the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
It shouldn't be used to pay back
Right?
Then you transferred 50 million from 2020 to 2023
I don't think it should be this amount of money
Okay, it shouldn't be this amount of money
It may be the second amount of money
Simply put, if you have the second amount of money
It's this amount of money
The second amount of money other than the donation of the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
There is 50 million
You have the second amount of money
Then why do you need to raise funds?
Simply put, it turns out that you are outside the donation of this citizen
You already have 50 million in flow funds
You can transfer it overseas at any time
Then why do you need to raise funds at the end of 2020?
You said that the Zheng Shenshui Foundation has a fund
If you have so many flow funds
The Zheng Shenshui Foundation is your organization
You have always donated to support it
If you have so many flow funds
Why do you have to raise funds from the Hong Kong citizens
Instead of giving the flow funds to the Zheng Shenshui Foundation?
Simply put, if we logically think
No matter how the money transferred to Hong Kong is formed
The Zheng Shenshui Foundation has been operating for a long time
Under the circumstances that the teachers have to resign
If you have any flow funds
Shouldn't you make up for the money you lost to the teachers before?
Shouldn't you keep it in Hong Kong?
In case the Hong Kong people are getting poorer in the future
It can't be like before
Just donate a lot of money
Why don't you keep some money in Hong Kong
To continue to operate the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
So that you don't need to
Every half year, every year, every hour, you go to raise funds
So even if you can't use
The money donated by the citizens to the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
Even if this money really belongs to the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
You have so many flow funds
Why do you still have to raise funds?
Your financial capacity is still poor
You have to raise funds from the Hong Kong citizens to help the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
So if these two
Suppose to think about what this money is
I think it's still not profitable
OK
It turns out that the Zheng Shenshui Foundation is also a front-line foundation
88 brands
88 brands actually have another one
Is relatively
There is a rule
That most of the profits it gains
Cannot be used in places other than Hong Kong
In other words, in addition to the Zheng Shenshui Foundation you received
In the name of Zheng Shenshui Foundation
Received a fund
In theory, you should not take it for overseas use
And if you really have some spare money
You should continue to keep it for the use of the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
This is a reasonable way to run a charity
Because at least Hong Kong people have donated money to you for so many years
I also hope you do something for Hong Kong
Just for Hong Kong people
Because if Hong Kong people have fewer people who do not pray
Then the whole society will be more stable
Hong Kong people donate money
Let you restore the Hong Kong society
It's also a reasonable thing to do
And you know
It turns out that he got this card
He also has to follow the instruction of this card
What does the instruction say?
That is, the profits he gains
If you are a front-line foundation
Most of the profits you gain
Are not used in Hong Kong or other places
That is, your income, your profits, your money
You should not use it in places other than Hong Kong
Lam Hsing has a response to this matter
How to respond?
That is, after the HK$50 million transfer from Zheng Shenshui Foundation
Most of Hong Kong's property and assets
Also reserved enough funds for Zheng Shenshui Foundation
OK
Now 88% is not talking about Hong Kong
After you take the money to other places
Is the organization in Hong Kong enough?
He said most of the money should be used in Hong Kong
Not take it abroad
So the HK$50 million is for the most part
Right?
You don't have to say this yourself
You should really hand it over
Why do you have to transfer such a large amount of money overseas?
Is this a large amount?
You have to hand it over
You can't use this word
That is
That is, I have already dealt with the problem
I haven't dealt with the problem
And if Zheng Shenshui Foundation
He said Zheng Shenshui Foundation still has some assets
And some properties in Hong Kong
In fact, some non-floating assets
In fact, there are a lot
Some non-floating assets
Simply put, at the end of 2020
The so-called financial difficulties
Is it really financial difficulties?
In addition to the floating funds
Is there any other floating funds that you can use but you don't use?
You have to pay
All of these
You talk more and more through Carrie Lam
You are a normal person
You will discover more and more problems
In this case
Some comrades can still tell me that there is no problem
This is a form of political suppression
I think it is really outrageous
Then continue to talk
OK
Then
I have finished this part
I think it is problematic to transfer a large amount of funds to Hong Kong
Regardless of the purpose of the Hong Kong people donating money to you
Regardless of whether you often claim that the Zheng Shenshui Foundation
Often face financial pressure
Plus the 88-card law against you
These few things
You can't just transfer HK$50 million of funds to Hong Kong
To do other things
And this organization will often be felt
Zheng Shenshui Foundation has no money
You have to pay
But you can transfer a large amount of money to Hong Kong
To do other things
This is another question
The third thing
Zheng Shenshui Foundation
On July 7th
The fourth thing, sorry
Zheng Shenshui Foundation will be closed on July 7th
The reason for the closure
I just made it very clear
The account of the Zheng Shunmei Foundation has been frozen
Because Zheng Shenshui Foundation
Depends on Zheng Shunmei Foundation for a long time
Now we know that these donations are in return
It is unimaginable
OK, so is it possible to save this matter?
To close this thing on July 7th
Because its assets have not been frozen
It can't be used
It turned out that the police in January
Have tried to freeze a live bank account of the Zheng Shunmei Foundation
To allow some funds to be transferred to another
Zheng Shunmei Foundation's bank account
To be transferred to Zheng Shunmei Foundation
It was said that some of its assets had been defrauded in January this year
When the Zheng Shunmei Foundation was going to do the same thing in February this year
When some of the assets were defrauded
The police asked the Zheng Shunmei Foundation
To transfer all the funds from the Zheng Shunmei Foundation
To the account of the Zheng Shunmei Foundation
Then it can be defrauded
In fact, this matter itself has a solution
If the Zheng Shunmei Foundation
Maybe it's talking about an account or a bank account
In total, there is an asset of 60 million
It's a liquidity
If the police said
You transfer these assets to the Zheng Shunmei Foundation
The Zheng Shunmei Foundation has a bank account
If you transfer it
Then this amount of money can be used
The Zheng Shunmei Foundation can be defrauded
In my understanding, this news
In fact, there is a solution
It doesn't have to be defrauded
And I think it's reasonable
From 2020 to 2023
That post, this is my personal guess
Because of Chen Shaoshuai's fundraising post
Those three years suddenly there was a donation from the Zheng Shunmei Foundation
To over one hundred million
But now you are in the Zheng Shunmei Foundation
One of the assets
Among the 6 million assets
You give back
Transfer the 6 million assets to the Zheng Shunmei Foundation
It can solve the current Zheng Shunmei Foundation
The issue of transportation difficulties
The issue of employees' unemployment
This can be done
But how do you think Carrie Lam responded?
Let me tell you
She said she thought this was unreasonable
The money is obviously from the Zheng Shunmei Foundation
Why transfer it to the Zheng Shunmei Foundation?
You transfer it to the chaos ledger like this
Now it has been said that we are a chaos ledger
Then there is more chaos
Of course I am not willing
She is not willing
Very clear
Carrie Lam is not willing
This is what she herself accepted the media to say
Why is it that if a person is stupid
Don't say so much
The more you say, the more wrong you are
So many people
After being suspected
Said that the heaven is fair and the people are at ease
The Lord has the answer
These answers are the best
Because you don't need to say anything
The more you say, the more
If you give me such unfortunate things
After you say a few words
I can find out a dozen loopholes
There are loopholes
Why did it lead to the current chaos?
Because you
Between 2020 and 2023
A large amount of donations
I believe most people
Want to donate to the Zheng Shunmei Foundation
Enter the account of the Zheng Shunmei Foundation
You tell people now
This is money
It's the Zheng Shunmei Foundation
Give back 6 million
To solve the original fund of the Zheng Shunmei Foundation
Can make students
Have education
The teacher has a salary
Even no more than seven times
You don't want to
Because you think this money
The money is from the Zheng Shunmei Foundation
The Zheng Shunmei Foundation helps people quit gambling
Right?
Even if this money is really yours
Zheng Shunmei Foundation really needs this money
You give it to him
I believe many Hong Kong citizens will agree
He said it himself
He doesn't
This is the whole story
What I want to tell you today
Recently, Chia Cheung and Lam Hsing
Came out to make a decision
I went back last night
What did the police say in January?
And some media
Some news
They are very good
Some go to check
Some look at the numbers of the Zheng Shunmei Foundation
I just look at some of their information
I am an ordinary person
What I can do
I also have this understanding of the matter
So anyone
I am an ordinary person
I shouldn't know so much
So I chose to blindly believe them
It's not my fault
I have kept this thing
I am also an ordinary person
I got the information
There is no internal person to tell me
I am also some public information
So I am also
Follow me
I have been with you for a month this year
Zheng Shunmei Foundation
I will continue to work
And I will never apologize
I hope he will get some real money in the future
I don't need to apologize
Because I didn't say you did this
I said I doubted you a lot
If you can explain the place you doubt
Then you will return the favor
Right?
So I hope
Just have to see
Because a lot of
So-called Hong Kong church organizations
Notified by the police
Said there was a problem with their numbers
Then he came to the UK
He did a service
Spend a little money
Sign out
Invite some people
Then those people will affect
Like me
Want to affect people like me
Affect others
Just Hong Kong people
Just hope to wash their hands
I said this is worth
We pay attention
Because these behaviors
Compared to you in Hong Kong
Being oppressed by the Communist Party
Then you have to come over
Actually it's the same
If you think
What the Communist Party does is very bad
Then why do you tolerate
These things happen to you?
Will you be harmonious?
Because he is your friend
Because your friend is a staff in it
So you think this matter
Should be covered
We should have a double standard
I think our group
I am a Hong Konger
This group
If there is hope
Not because we are awesome
There are hundreds of people at the city center meeting
Cheer for Hong Kong
Shout out loud
Not these
Everyone is facing an incident
You have a very clear
Very independent judgment
This is what we Hong Kong people
Have a future
Even my people have a future
One point
It's not that it's awesome
Yesterday I moved the chair
There is a meeting
Move the chair, move the table, move the tent
Move to Shenzhen
I'm floating now
I did something
Not these
What we want is not these
We want to put our group
All the hunger
Sesame
Make a profit
Even take advantage of this
This thing
To wash your own people
Is to withdraw this obligation
This is also what I hope
This program can bring to everyone
Thank you everyone
Watch our program
Yes
Mr. Hsueh said his point of view
See if there is any supplement
No more
Actually I have said everything
See if there is any further development in the future
Yes
Share with everyone
And I forgot to say
The information I just said
All are some public data on the Internet
But
I don't know them
I don't know these people
But some people know them
Some Christian circles
Know what kind of people they are
They have some inside
I don't know if it can be exposed
But I can't tell if it's true or not
Everyone can go and see for yourself
It's called the door map channel
Door map channel
This program
We have talked about it before
We have talked about it
They use a domestic perspective
To kick out
We don't know the contents of the book
I don't know the contents
I don't know if they are right or wrong
But if you are interested in knowing more
You can go to the door map channel to see
I don't know the guy from the door map channel
We have no relationship
I'm sorry
I have to promote other places
But their channel
Everyone can go and see
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Thank you
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