海外華人眼中的六四，北京人回憶六四

Down with the Communist Party of China! Long live the People's Republic of China! Long live freedom! Long live the Democratic Party of China! It's not even June 4th yet. Why are you here at the end of February? What are you doing here? Can you tell us about it? For us, it's a commemorative event. It's a series of events. It's an expression of behavioural art. I believe that after 35 years, June 4th has become history for a lot of Canadians. But today, we're wearing our June 4th outfit and going for a walk. I'd like to remind everyone that a lot of Chinese people haven't forgotten about June 4th. This kind of thing shouldn't be forgotten. Today's event is being led by the person in charge of this event. I think that June 4th is an irrefutable fact. It's a proof of the Communist Party's exploitation of the Chinese people. It's a violent suppression. Yes. This kind of thing shouldn't be forgotten. We've seen a lot of documentaries. It's true that the so-called People's Guards shot at the Chinese people. And they used tanks to suppress the Chinese people. It's very cruel. When you saw this, how did you feel? First of all, I thought it was incredible. I couldn't understand why the belief in June 4th suddenly collapsed. So you've been actively participating in organized by the Toronto People's Congress and the People's Government, right? Yes. What do you think is the meaning of participating in such a commemorative event I think it's to let more young people know about June 4th. I think it's to let more young people know about June 4th. I think it's to let more young people know about June 4th. Since 2019, for example, in Hong Kong, the People's Government has been commemorating June 4th every year. But since the 2019 anti-extradition movement, the People's Government has been commemorating June 4th every year. I think it's a fact that Hong Kong used to be a free society. We see a free society which is constantly being pushed out. We see a free society which is constantly being pushed out. Including Canada. I believe that the totalitarianism and the free world are the same thing. The existence of the free world is a threat to the totalitarianism is a threat to the totalitarianism which means that we are killing off the threat. We are killing off the freedom of the world. When we stand up and do something, we hope that people can forget about it. The purpose of forgetting about it is to live a different life. So, I believe that I'm especially grateful As for the June 4th incident, I believe it was the feeling of ordinary Chinese and Canadians. When everyone faces the fact of June 4th, everyone will collapse in the world that has been concocted by the Communist Party for a lifetime. They will re-examine this world. They will know who is right and who is wrong, what kind of value we have to protect, what kind of evil forces we have to fight against. This is really important. I believe that the free world has some of its natural weaknesses. It is an open society. It can't prevent anyone from making a different statement. It is hard to prevent an extreme authoritarian system from infiltrating the free world. It is a kind of deceptive propaganda. For example, the June 4th incident. The June 4th incident is because these people have been repeating this for more than 30 years. Hong Kongers and overseas Chinese have been repeating this for more than 30 years. So, in this world, there is a world without truth. The rulers themselves can't be the mastermind. They can't go to the streets to suppress ordinary people. They need to use ordinary people to suppress ordinary people. In this case, they have to lie to some people and tell them that they represent the truth. The people who are being suppressed are the bad guys. This is not the truth. But this kind of situation requires lies. Once the lies are exposed, the people will know who is the evil bad guy. When they make a choice, the regime will collapse. So, this is the simplest way. The truth can make the regime collapse. So, as you said, the CCP is using the firewall to prevent people from knowing the truth. They are using lies. In fact, we can see clearly in the August 9th and June 4th incident. When the first batch of troops entered Beijing, they entered Beijing during the day. They slowly entered the city. When the people of Beijing told them what happened in Tiananmen Square and Beijing, all the soldiers stopped fighting. Right? So, this is why after the first batch of troops left the city, they had to send new troops in to shoot. They had to shoot at night. This is unfortunate. The truth is very powerful. Can the truth stop the CCP? The truth can stop the CCP. It depends on each of us. For us, it is very simple. We are ordinary people. We want to influence everyone around us. We want to tell everyone. When we all feel responsible and obligated to spread the truth, I believe we can stop the CCP. At the time of the August 9th and June 4th incident, you were in China. Yes, I was in China. I was a primary school student. I only saw the news on TV. Of course, the news was distorted. It was all CCP propaganda. Did you believe the CCP propaganda? Yes, I did. You thought the students were rioters. Yes. Of course, there was no information about the massacre. There was no official information about the blood pressure. When was the first time you learned about the June 4th incident? It was many years later. I think it was 2010. Later, after the Internet became popular, I learned a lot about it. What did you use? VPN software. At that time, there was a VPN software on the Apple store. I downloaded it from there. Was it 2010? Yes, it was after 2010. What did you see at that time? Was it a documentary or a video? Yes, it was a video. It was a documentary. There were also some comments from people at that time. How did you feel at that time? At that time, I was overwhelmed. It was very different from what I had known before. I had a new understanding of the Communist Party of China. I was five years old at that time. I was less than five years old at that time. At that time, I only remember that the TV was in a state of blood. At that time, the TV was not broadcast 24 hours a day. I remember that the news was the same all the time. At that time, I was too young to understand a lot of things. At that time, I seemed to hear gunshots outside the window. Because my house was very close to Zhongnanhai. It was about a block away. Did you hear it during the day or at night? I think it was at night. At night? Yes. Do you remember which day it was? At that time, my father was on the street. He risked his life at that time. He stayed in the unit. Because he was still in the field unit at that time. He didn't get any life. He was also hit by the fall. Did your father help the students? At that time, he wanted to help the students. But he was kicked out of the unit as soon as he got there. He saw the police shooting tear gas at the crowd. The tear gas hit a man's leg. He might have aimed at the ground. But the police's tear gas hit a man's leg. The man fell into the snow. The tear gas was very powerful. My father told me about the 8964. He was very righteous. Did he see the shooting? He was threatened by the police and the armed police. He threatened them. He said, do you want to work? Do you want to be punished? If you don't go back, I will arrest you. I will inform your unit to arrest you. So they were forced to leave. Because most of the people had already gone home on the night of June 3. Except for the students in the square. Because the six stations had already been closed. The police were shooting tear gas. It was impossible to pass through there. He walked to that position. He didn't hear the gunfire on his way there. But the police were shooting tear gas. He said that most of the police sympathized with the protesters and the students. That's why they sent the security forces. The security forces were transferred from other places. These people were brainwashed. I was in a unit of the 38th Army. It was a five-digit number. Everyone had a small booklet. The first page of the booklet said that our unit was a glorious unit. Our glorious soldiers participated in the 8.9.64 Revolution. I really wanted to tear it up. I was very angry after reading it. This is a massacre. They took it as their own credit. They covered their faces and bodies with the blood of the Chinese people. They took it as their own glory. I think it's very cruel. These are just a bunch of noblemen. The people in the Communist army are also brainwashed like this. Because of my grandfather, I collected some books at home. He was in the army. I found some of his relics. He wrote a letter to Hu Yaobang, asking for a revolution. He wrote a letter to Hu Yaobang, asking for a revolution. He also kept some books like the Son of the Earth. These are the books of Hu Yaobang. These books are very sensitive in the Communist Party. He also kept some books like the Communist Party of China. I read them. I read Liu Guodong's books. The CCP is also commemorating these people. These people are the noblemen of the CCP. They are the noblemen of the CCP. Whether they were killed by the CCP, or for some reason, they died in this 8.9.64 disaster. They became heroes. They became the heroes of the Republic of China. The CCP's army is also promoting these things. I found out later that after the June 4th, many people are pushing for work, but they don't want to accept it. They know it's a kind of humiliation. Some of their senior generals, some of their senior generals, including some of our soldiers, they still think the Communist Party is correct. You think that the students who participated in the June 4th school trip, they didn't sacrifice their lives for this tyranny. Do they encourage you? They encourage me. I think that now, under the rule of the CCP, I think that the Chinese who live on that land lack this spirit of resistance. Everyone is... How to say it? Everyone is... The spirit of resistance to tyranny. So I think that this is the most So I admire the students from the 1980s, especially the students including President Wang Juntao and President Yu Haoxiang. I admire them very much. At that time, they were very brave in the spirit of resistance. They encouraged me a lot. So you came out today to participate in this activity. Yes. With this flyer, you want to let more people know the truth of June 4th 35 years ago. Yes. What do you think is the meaning of doing this? I think that doing this will spread the truth. Because there are a lot of... Because this is our third flyer activity. I participate every time. The first time was at Taigu Square. The last time was at the 32nd anniversary of Falun Gong. The last time was at the 32nd anniversary of Falun Gong. Today, I came to Fairmont. I think that more or less, it can play a role. Because a lot of Chinese don't dare to receive this flyer. When it comes to the Communist Party, they feel like they are gambling. I feel that it is inexplicable. On this land of freedom, they are brainwashed. They don't dare to resist. I think that as a Chinese, I think that this is a shameful thing. I also participated in June 4th. You also participated in June 4th. Yes. What did you think of June 4th? It was unreasonable. Later, I heard that many young people died I felt very sad. Where were you on June 4th, 1989? I was in Zhejiang, Shaoxing. At that time, I was still a worker. But I knew about this matter. At that time, you knew about this matter because you thought that the students on TV were anti-revolutionary rebels? I didn't think that way. But at that time, I knew that some of the Communist Party's flyers had watermarks. I couldn't believe it. But I didn't have the ability to believe it. I felt pity for them. When I was a little older, when I saw the real content of the flyers, I felt very sad. Do you know that the people's soldiers shot at the people with tanks? I think that these students are like their parents. For the sake of justice in Xinjiang, for the sake of justice in Xinjiang, they lost their lives. I really felt very sad for them. Down with the Communist Party of China! Long live democracy! Long live freedom! Long live the Democratic Party of China! Down with Xi Jinping! Down with the Communist Party of China!