The border crisis has reached unprecedented levels. Over 7.2 million illegal immigrants have entered the United States since President Joe Biden took office. However, behind this crisis are official agreements between the U.S. government and the United Nations that are set up to facilitate mass illegal immigration into the United States.
One of the big agreements is called the Global Compact for Migration. This Compact is not just about running the migrant crisis on the ground—which they do through facilitating immigrant buses, migrant camps, and migration routes, among many other things—but it also has a built-in censorship system that works to control the border narrative.
We speak to Alex Newman, award-winning international journalist and Epoch Times contributor, about the ultimate objective behind the global push for mass migration.
Hey, welcome to Crossroads. You might have seen in my recent documentary that there is a
system that is set up to run the migrant crisis. One of the big parts of the system is called the
Global Compact for Migration. It is an agreement that the United States has joined in with
alongside the United Nations. And part of that program as well is not just about running the
migrant crisis. It's not just the checkpoints and the buses and so on. It's also a propaganda
element. And part of this as well ties into broader agendas even outside the United States.
Here to talk to us about these agendas and the systems behind the scenes is Alex Newman. He's
an award-winning international journalist and an Epoch Times contributor. Hey, Alex Newman,
thanks for being on Crossroads. Great to be here. Thank you, Josh.
So Alex, of course, you were in our recent documentary, Weapons of Mass Migration.
And we were talking about a few things. We mentioned, of course, the Global Compact for
Migration. And we also talked about some of the different agendas at play. But you and I,
it's the unfortunate nature of any kind of documentary that you always have to kind of
choose what not to include. You had told me some really interesting things about the Global
Compact for Migration. So I wanted to have you on to talk more in depth about that. In particular,
you were talking about some of the censorship systems built into it. So I want to get into
this. I want to start off first, though, because we talked about the Global Compact for Migration
in the documentary. But I want to go deeper into it. Can you tell us, where did this start? What
is this agreement? Well, the Global Compact on Migration, I think the best way to understand it
is it seeks to radically redefine immigration. So it's no longer a privilege to be able to move to
another country with the permission of that government. I think probably the single most
fundamental change that this compact seeks to bring about is redefining it from a privilege
to a right. You have a right to migrate somewhere better, especially if you live in a poor country,
you live in a country where there's gang violence, really for any reason. And that is ultimately the
end objective of this, is to facilitate enormous levels of migration, primarily into Western
countries, what used to be known as the free world. And so this is a very strategic document
that aims to embed what they call soft law. These ideas, they're not technically enforceable,
right? There's no UN court that's going to say, well, you didn't obey this, and so we're going
to sanction you. But what happens is these get embedded into national legal codes, into judicial
decisions, and before you know it, it becomes hard law. And the objective of the hard law is to
totally restructure all the immigration codes, legal systems in the world, to facilitate enormous
movements of people that might make the last decade really look minor by comparison with what's coming.
Well, it seems that that would actually destroy the very nature of countries. I remember we talked
briefly about the destruction of the nation state. I mean, is that just a side effect or
is that the agenda? What do you make of it? So I believe that is actually a feature,
not a bug. I believe that is their ultimate objective. And that's not just based on
speculation. I've seen the documents that they have put out. I've read their information. One
of the guys who really gave the end game away was the guy that the United Nations put in as
migrations are. His name was Peter Sutherland. He used to be one of the bigwigs over at Goldman
Sachs. And he repeatedly said, and you included a little bit of this footage in the documentary,
he repeatedly said that one of the objectives is actually to undermine national homogeneity.
They want to create multicultural societies whereby people have very little in common with
each other, right? Traditionally, the nation state or the nation itself has been seen mostly as an
extension of the family. It's kind of like an extended family. And a lot of ancient nations,
you still find this today. If you go visit the Zulu or you visit the Xhosa in Africa,
Southern Africa, even Sweden, until very recent decades, they actually saw the nation as an
extension of the family. It was like the big family, right? And they want to move away from
that. Now, all these nations had a lot in common. They typically shared a culture. They certainly
shared a language. Often they shared ethnicity, right? Hungarians or Finns or Swedes or Frenchmen
or Germans, whatever. And I think one of the key goals of this mass migration is to undermine that
very deliberately and very strategically for the purpose ultimately of undermining the nation
state itself. We're watching this happen very rapidly in Europe. I think Europe is the canary
in the coal mine. Europe was actually once many different nations, right? Generally speaking,
independent. Sometimes they would conquer each other and come under one government or a big
empire, but it was always seen as groups of individuals based on their national identity.
Well, what's happening now, you look at the big cities of Western Europe and Northern Europe,
many of them, you now have the native population is in the minority. In some cities like Brussels,
the native population is a very small minority, depending on whose numbers you believe. Somewhere
like 25 to 30% of the population of Brussels is actually Belgian. You look at Frankfurt, Germans
are in the minority. You look at London, Brits are in the minority. You look at Malmo in Sweden,
Swedes are in the minority. Amsterdam, the Dutch are in the minority. And so what will happen
ultimately is these people will wake up one day and they'll say, wow, I'm completely surrounded
by people who I don't have anything in common with. We don't share the same language. We don't
share the same culture, the same religion. We don't think the same things. We don't even like
each other. Why do we have these arbitrary lines on a map called a nation? Why not just be European
citizens, which is of course step one, and then ultimately global citizens, which is what Peter
Sutherland talked about quite a bit. So that is the ultimate objective. They probably won't come
out of the closet too openly until they think it's irreversible. Now, America is a little bit
different, right? America as a nation has not been defined by necessarily an ethnicity or even
necessarily a common culture, certainly not a common religion. America was different. America
was a nation based on an idea. The ideas enshrined in our founding documents, the idea that God
created us equally, that God gave us certain rights, that the government exists to protect
those rights. And that attracted people from all different nations from around the world
to come here and settle here and become part of the American nation. And ultimately that
is under attack as well. They want us to unify behind these nebulous notions of UN,
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, things like this. But the goal, make no mistake,
is to undermine the nation and ultimately the nation state in preparation for regional governance
and then global governance. And this is something I've been kind of, you know, I've been trying to
answer these questions myself, like, you know, why are we watching this happen? And I think you
and I have come to a lot of the same conclusions on it. But, you know, talking about the nature
of America, one of the shifts I'm watching is that I think the reason why the American idea,
as you mentioned, has been sustained, even despite the fact that America was always kind of open to
a lot of other countries. You know, we've had different eras and different immigration groups
that have built, you know, pockets within this country. We have all kinds of little
pockets of different racial groups. Look at New York, for example. Even across the country,
you have different areas that were kind of settled by different, you know, regions and different
religions in some cases, or at least on denominations. But what's been sustained is
this American idea of, you know, as you mentioned, the idea of the role of government and the very
nature of, you know, God giving us rights, not government, and government's role of defending
those rights. The question then is, do these new migrants or illegal immigrants, do they see that,
right? Is that why they're coming here? Because you could argue during the Cold War and so on,
people were fleeing communism from all corners of the world, and a lot of these people in the
same way are there maybe, I thought about this, they're fleeing socialism in many cases from
Cuba or Venezuela or wherever else, but are they coming here because they want freedom,
or are they coming here because they want free handouts? So are they coming here for freedom,
or are they coming here for socialism? What do you think, Alex? Because in my analysis of the
Global Compact for Migration and the system set up around it, what it's offering them is not freedom,
it's offering them socialism, free handouts. I mean, what's your take on this? I think that's
precisely the point of the mass migration we're seeing into the United States. Now, I grew up in
Latin America primarily. I've lived the vast majority of my life as an immigrant, as a legal
immigrant in countries around the world, and I always understood that that was a privilege.
I always understood that I'm here by invitation, by permission, and I need to behave myself. I have
no right to be here. I have no right to do whatever I feel like it. And one of the things that I
learned growing up in Latin America is that there is a genuine disdain for the United States that's
being instilled into people at a very young age. And I still remember this from first and second
grade. The teacher was teaching the class about the gringos, the Yankees that came and murdered
the Niños Héroes and stole the Castillo de Chapultepec and stole half of our land. And so,
I still remember being picked on like crazy in first and second grade for being American.
There may have been some truth to some of the allegations, but it was really a very anti-American
program. And unfortunately, you have that kind of mindset in a lot of parts of America, the notion
that America got rich by exploiting other people, by exploiting their countries, by extracting their
natural resources, and basically using them as just slave labor. And so, one of the reasons I
think why they're encouraging so much migration from Latin America into the United States is
precisely because it'll bring in this new cultural understanding of America, this new cultural
understanding when it comes to the role of government, the economy, etc. And it's very,
very dangerous. And it used to be when people came here, they very quickly integrated into
American society. My grandparents, some of them came from Italy and Germany. And almost right
away, they said, look, we're American now, right? We left the old country behind. We are very
thankful for the opportunity to be here. That's not happening anymore. In fact, the government is
deliberately instilling in the minds of the people coming here. And it's not just the United States,
by the way. This is happening very, very blatantly in Europe as well. They're telling the newly
arrived immigrants that they arrived in a racist society that's built on white supremacy, that's
built on exploitation of, in America, the Native Americans and genocide and things. And so, the
natural response of people who, you know, they learn bad things about America in their own
country, then they come to America, they learn bad things about America when they get to this
country, often in taxpayer-funded schools or in taxpayer-funded media like NPR. The natural
response is, well, hey, we should overthrow the system, right? And so, I believe that is a critical
part of what's going on here. Now, there are a lot of different elements. There are a lot of
different special interest groups that have their own motivation for wanting the borders open. One,
of course, the big business community, they want cheaper labor. They think they're going to
increase their profit margins. You've got the public sector unions, the government school
establishing a trillion-dollar-a-year industry, hoping to get more students in the classroom so
they can keep their budgets the same as old-school Americans increasingly flee the system. You've got
Democrat politicians that think they're bringing in new Democrat voters. You've got very dangerous
subversives in Washington, D.C. who know full well that special forces from the People's Liberation
Army of China are coming across the border, that know that highly trained jihadists are coming
across the border, intelligence operatives from Cuba and Venezuela coming across the border,
criminals coming across the border. They're doing that because they want chaos. And, you know,
Rich Higgins talked about this. He was the director of policy and planning on the National
Security Council under Donald Trump. He identified something very, very important. He said there is
this international coalition of globalists, jihadists, communists, socialists, and others who
may not even share too much in common with their worldview, with their end goal, but they're united
on this idea of destroying the United States of America as both a nation and as an ideal, to go
back to the uniqueness of America. And that's what's happening. The people who are coming here
now are not coming here in pursuit of political, religious, and economic freedom. They're coming
here because they're being told, hey, there's more jobs. You're going to get free health care.
They're going to give you a debit card. You're going to get a free hotel. They're going to fly
you to whatever city you want. Your kids are going to get free education. They don't quite realize
what that means. Bad, bad news. But this is really the magnet that's bringing a lot of people here.
And you see this with arrivals from all over the place. You see it from Cuba, right? A lot of the
people that came originally, these were freedom fighters. These were people who wanted to live in
liberty. So they escaped a communist dictatorship. Now, a lot of the ones that are coming over here
are actually being sent by the regime to bilk Medicare and Medicaid for tons of money and then
send it back to Cuba to spy on the Cuban-American community in Miami. So this is a totally
different situation than we had even 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago. And it's incredibly dangerous for the
United States.