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Join Anesha Singh, host of the Wellness Plus Podcast, with Dr. Jack Schaefer board certified Acupuncturist and Herbalist.
With over two decades of experience as a board-certified acupuncturist and herbalist, Jack brings a wealth of knowledge and insight to our conversation.
Throughout his lifelong journey, Jack has explored the intricate connections between mind, body, and spirit, drawing upon the rich traditions of Daoism to inform his approach to healing. From his early days studying martial arts to his extensive training in Chinese medicine, Jack's path has been guided by a deep reverence for the natural rhythms of life.
Join us as we explore Jack's unique perspective on health and wellness, diving into topics ranging from acupuncture and herbal therapy to the ancient principles of Daoist philosophy.
as a Chinese medicine practitioner we're
always concerned about the why and the
why always has to be addressed so for
the headache we would not just treat the
symptom because I mean killing the pain
has to happen we also try and figure out
well why did you get this headache
what's the underlying cause was this a
something to do with your digestive
system or hormones or the weather or a
muscle strain or stress or and and then
we want to address that too because from
our point of view one cause one
imbalance can lead to a lot of problems
so that imbalance that's may be causing
the headache now might cause something
else
later hi everyone my name is Anisha and
I'm your host for the wus plus podcast
in today's episode I would love to
welcome to the show Dr Jack schaer what
the lifelong Devotion to talism martial
arts in Chinese medicine Jack's
expertise as a board-certified
acupuncturist and herbalist illuminates
a holistic approach to health and
wellness through Jack's insights we'll
gain a deeper understanding of the
transformative power of Dallas
principles and the profound healing
potential of Chinese medicine hi Jack
thank you so much for coming on hey
thanks for having me Anisha I'm really
excited to be here yeah I'm so excited
so can you start by telling us the
fundamentals of taism and how it led you
to your journey
I would say that there there are a lot
of aspects to to what dosm is and ways
to live it I think that for me through
my entire life from my teenage years up
until this point you know I've been
interested in different aspects of it
and you know you could say different
parts of it have kind of called to me so
you know dosm is really I mean it's it's
the native religion of
China but through through the you know
2,000 plus years that it's been growing
and changing and and whatnot you know it
it too it's a living tradition so the
the things that make dosm tick I guess
the its point of view in the universe
has has also changed and what that leads
to as a practitioner then are lots of
opportunities because you know dosm is
very focused on you know health and
Longevity is something we do but it's
not the only focus dosm is very focused
on you know um stopping
reincarnation for us as well as all
sentient beings much like Buddhism and
so that that that's also really
interesting topic and you know maybe
when you're younger you don't care as
much about that but as you get older you
start to really think about your
mortality and next lives and and you
start to see the suffering around the
world and that starts to become you know
you know something that's interesting to
to you as well how can we end that so
you know there are so many aspects to
fundament the fundamentals of dosm but I
would say one of the big ones that
really calls to me at this moment is the
relief of suffering you know not just
for myself as an individual or my family
but worldwide how can we sort of help
relieve the suffering in the world as a
kid so my father was interested in
Buddhism and so and I I grew up as as a
martial arts kid and so I had a lot of
exposure to Asian culture my father
started teaching me meditation when I
was a young teenager as well as my
martial arts teacher and so I got really
interested in you know what in
meditation maybe for the mindfulness and
the relaxation part that a lot of people
care about now but as a teenager
probably more in like the superpowers my
younger sister gave me a a copy of the
doubt edging I think for my 13th
birthday I read that book and I was
really fascinated with just the the
cryptic language in it because it seemed
to be it seemed to be espousing answers
for just about anything you could come
up with and that was really the
launching point and you know because I
was involved in in martial arts and I
had all these you know Asian influences
in my life you know I just it never
really separated from me and I kind of
just stayed with with it through my
teens and into college where I studied I
studied dosm and I studied Chinese
medicine and Chinese and Japanese
language and you know ended up living in
China and you know it just it honestly I
you it had this momentum that I can't
even explain that's amazing are there
certain practices that have stuck with
you every day is an interesting question
because I I tend to live sort of
cyclically in that I see I see practices
as like medicine in that you know there
are certain medicines that you take a
lot and there are certain medicines that
you only use when you need them and so
one of the big ones is
meditation um how much I use
meditation definitely varies you know I
mean I some there are time periods in my
life where I'll meditate a lot in really
um in deep in multiple times a day and
then there are periods where it'll draw
back and it'll be shorter sessions and
less focused and you know and so then
all the other practices that we do
including visualization meditations or
ritual practices you know self inquiry
those are all things that that I do very
regularly but they depend on again my
particular needs or situations at the
time you know what my life is like you
know what what my clinic patients are
like how much traveling I'm doing to you
know back and forth to China
or you know how much teaching I'm doing
those kinds of things but I tend to
really think of this stuff as as a as
medicine so we use it more when we need
it more less when we need it less but
some of it are things we take every day
no matter what have you ever had any
experiences with these practices yeah
you know there's a there's a couple of
aspects I can we can get into it
definitely it's almost embarrassing to
talk about these things sometimes
because they seem so woo woo the first
one I ever had you know I was um I was
about 16 and I was doing a um really
getting serious about this particular
meditation that I had learned from one
of my teachers at the time and I was
doing it every night and I would do it
for about an
hourish you know depending on I mean I
was a teenager so I don't you know
sometimes that didn't happen as much but
I was really focused on it and you know
I I was really focused on the the
the benefits that would come out of that
and I was really interested in them and
looking for them so I was on a good
stretch of I was hit right around a 100
days at this point and I remember I went
and I finished the meditation and I laid
down on my
bed and I had this experience where I
started to hear this very loud noise in
my ears almost like a like a um rumbling
you know like the sound that thunder
makes but it was constant and I could
feel my arms and legs sort of raising up
off off of the bed and uh I was like wow
this is really strange and then I could
start to see you know this uh what
seemed like energies or Spirits or
beings or I don't really know what to
call them at this point in my life
around just around in the room you know
and I just could sense the presence of
all these things all around me as I was
sort of floating up and then then I I
kind of realized what was happening and
I like Snapped myself out of it and I
kind of popped back down on the bed and
I was like what the heck just happened
to me that was really crazy I got you
know I went I called my dad and I asked
my dad what was what was this about and
you know his advice was really don't
worry about it don't chase it these
kinds of things happen just don't don't
focus on it just go relax and lay down
and and my other teachers sort of
confirmed the same thing you know like
in sort of DST lingo we talk about these
two aspects of the human is one is our
preh Heaven side which is the our true
innate nature you know PE people might
call like our Buddha nature or something
like that and then we also talk about
the the our po what we call Post Heaven
side which is the elusory body and the
elusory mind and we spend so much time
in the illusion of the stories that we
create about our current existence and
that when we start to Glimpse those
those moments like you know through like
a transcendental experience like you're
talking about or a vision of of what we
consider to be preh heaven and dosm
sometimes that that is almost
uncomfortable at first and a little
scary because it's like wait a minute
this the That's Just an Illusion and
this is the real thing well this is this
is strange and and it's a little
frightening at first and I think the
more you're they say the more you can
touch it the the more you see the
illusion is just illusion and the more
you see the other thing is the true your
true you and it becomes less scary and
you really want to be there more and
that's what we consider to be more like
realization experiences and whatnot hey
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