Cuộc Phỏng Vấn Ma: "Tại Sao Có Người Có Thể Nhìn Thấy Hồn Ma?"

Today, we are going to talk about a very interesting topic, the ghost interview. The topic will answer some of our questions about ghosts. It will also give us a basic idea of the world of ghosts. Moreover, today's topic is related to two very important concepts that I have mentioned before. One is the afterlife, and the other is the world after death. First, let's talk about what the topic can answer. First, why do people see ghosts? Some people see them, some people don't. Second, what are ghosts doing? Third, what is shadow? Why is there shadow? Today's ghost interview is not a book, a novel, a play, or a movie. It is a normal person's experience. This person's name is Mizusawa, he is over 40 years old. In his life, he only saw a ghost once, and then he asked the ghost some questions, and the ghost answered. Through this conversation, people will be able to understand what the world after death is like. It is very open-minded and very reasonable. This happened more than 20 years ago, around 2000. At that time, Mizusawa was 20 years old. He worked at an entertainment center in Nagano Prefecture, Japan. His job in this entertainment center was to do both day and night. He worked from 4.30 p.m. to 12.30 p.m. After work, every day on the way home, he passed by a convenience store. Every time he went to this convenience store to buy something, he gradually became familiar with the owner of the convenience store. They sometimes talked to each other, and in the middle of the night, there was no one else. One day, he told the owner, Now that I'm home, there's nothing interesting, there's no TV show, I don't know what to do. The owner said, Hey, why don't you come to my store for another 2-3 hours and then go home? He said, This is a young man who has a hard time. So his job immediately became, after finishing work at 12.30 p.m. at the entertainment center, he had to go to the convenience store to work for another 2 hours, around 3-4 a.m. and then go home. At that time, he was actually quite poor, he didn't even have a mobile phone. He said, By the year 2000, not every Japanese had a phone. Especially young people living in remote areas, there are many people who don't have mobile phones. And now there is a day, as always, around 12.30 p.m., he finished work at the entertainment center, then went to the convenience store to work for another 2 hours, around 3-4 a.m. and then go home. After going home, it was like every time, he ate something and then started playing video games. He really liked playing video games, he played until dawn. He thought, Oh no, I have to go to bed soon, if not, I will be late again tomorrow. After he went to bed, not long after, his body was extremely uncomfortable. He opened his eyes and looked, it was only 7.40 a.m., he slept at 6 a.m., which means he just slept for a few hours. He didn't know why he was so uncomfortable. And he felt very hot, so he wanted to measure the temperature. His temperature was not far from the bed, he wanted to take his hand out, but he found that he could not move anymore. At that time, he didn't think he was paralyzed, he just felt that he no longer had the strength to control his body, his hands were numb and he couldn't move. He lived in his parents' old house, but both his parents and his family did not have a house, only he slept in the house. He thought, he thought, if I stayed like this, if no one knew, I would probably die. At the top of his bed, there was a wireless phone. Because this tablet was right on top, he just needed to take his hand out. So he pulled this tablet down, based on his memory, pressed the phone number to call his girlfriend. His girlfriend answered the phone. He said, I feel so uncomfortable now, can you come here for a while? His girlfriend said yes, I'm waiting for you. And then he hung up the phone and thought, this is reassuring, someone has come to save me. After he hung up the phone, he thought, maybe I should sleep a little longer. Just when he wanted to sleep, he suddenly discovered at the end of his bed, right under his feet, there were two people standing there. He did not know these two people, they were two old men. The old man on the left bowed his head down, but could see the face. And the old man on the right, when he saw that old man, this old man also saw him. When the two eyes met, everyone was scared. He was also scared, the old man asked, do you see me? He said yes. This is the first conversation between the two of them. As far as I remember, at that time he was a little scared, but at the same time excited and excited. Why is that? Because at that time he thought, this is probably just a dream, not reality or illusion. He didn't feel at all, there were two people standing in his house. His first impression was that he felt, ah, maybe I was dreaming. As he said, until now, I have never had such a real dream. There were two people clearly standing in front of him. This was the first time he saw a ghost-like thing like this. This ghost also talked to him. So he thought, I should talk to the ghost. Mizusawa asked, how did you get in here? The old man on the right said, I came in from here, where he pointed to the window. And then Mizusawa asked, what are you two doing here? The old man on the right pointed to the old man on the left and said, he wanted to come and visit you, so I brought him here. But Mizusawa didn't know the old man on the left. The room Mizusawa was sleeping in was on the second floor, so he asked, my window is very high, are you sure you came in from here? Unless you two are ghosts. And then the old man on the right said, that's right. Mizusawa has been very fascinated by these ghost things since he was a child, but he has never met a ghost. So as he grew up, he gradually felt that these things were probably not real. And this was the first time he saw a ghost. Suddenly, he thought, I have to take this opportunity to ask a few questions. And so he called the old man on the right, can I ask you a few questions? The old man on the right said, as long as I can answer, I will try my best to answer you. The ghost's voice is like a normal person, but according to Mizusawa, their way of speaking is a bit rough. Next is the point. He asked this old man, what will happen to you after you die and become a ghost? The old man said, those who cannot accept the fact that they are dead, moreover, if you bring them up, but they don't leave, they will become ghosts. He said, bring them up. And so Mizusawa asked, if you don't come up, what will happen? The old man said, so you can't reincarnate, so when someone comes to pick you up, you have to follow them. And then he said, so you can't worship? Here I explain a little. In Japan, there is a culture of worship. This worship is mainly thanks to a spiritual power, like a kind of super power, so that the soul can rest in peace, and finally go to the extreme world, or to reincarnation. Such a process is called worship. So when this old man said, if you don't follow someone to pick you up, you will become a ghost, Mizusawa asked, so through another way of worship, is it possible? The old man said, worship is useless. And then he said, so spiritual powers are also useless? The old man said, actually, what spiritual powers, we don't understand anything at all, it's useless. So worship is meaningless? The old man said, actually, the purpose of the worship is to let you know that you are dead. That is, Mizusawa wants to say, the purpose of the worship is for the dead to see. So if you don't organize a worship, that person can't find out that you're dead. When that person finds out, his friends and family don't see him anymore, there is a spiritual power that affects his image, then that person will gradually understand that he is dead. Moreover, this is not about understanding or not, but the truth that that person must accept. It means that the purpose of the worship is to let the dead see. So the old man said that, whether the priests worship or give money, the basic purpose of that is to convince that person that they are dead. Speaking of this, maybe everyone will have a feeling that death is a very difficult thing to explain. That is, when a person is dead, they may not know at first, can't feel it, just like the usual waking up, live as usual, but maybe just can't talk to people around. Gradually they will discover, ah, it seems a bit strange. In the end they will know, ah, it turns out I'm dead. That's the process. So this worship is very important, it makes this soul understand that they are dead. And then Mizusawa asked, if this is the case, there must be someone at the end who doesn't know I'm dead, right? The old man said that, and then he asked again, what about people who die and go up? The old man said, like me, start counting to reincarnate. In fact, what he said specifically was not a point, he said it was a real achievement, like a work experience. Mizusawa asked, what is the work experience? The old man said, for example, like me, to pick up people, or there are lessons to learn, in short, there is everything. From here, people who die will not reincarnate immediately, they still have work. That is, before reincarnation, you need to work for a while, accumulate some experience before being reincarnated. So after accumulating enough work experience, is it possible to reincarnate? The old man said, not yet, still have to line up. And then he asked again, what about people who don't go up there? The old man said, maybe these people don't know what their final destiny will be like. They wandered all over the place, and eventually gradually disappeared. And then Mizusawa said, so it means that people who don't go up here will eventually become buddhas? And then he explained to the old man what a buddha is. He said, I heard that there are some souls that will gather in caves or near lakes. In fact, in Japan, most of the supernatural spots are concentrated in caves or near lakes. In those places, at night, people often hear sounds like the voices of people talking. Sometimes, when I interview on TV, or when a YouTuber comes to my channel, sometimes I hear the voices of some people talking, it's very difficult to explain. So he asked the old man, the souls that gather in those places, are they buddhas? It is those who do not go up there. The old man said, in fact, what you are talking about are some very pitiful ghosts. Basically, they are all souls who cannot accept that they are dead, or souls who know they are dead but still decide to stay. And then Mizusawa asked, why are there people who know they are dead but still decide to stay? The old man said, because there are ghosts who know they are dead but still do not leave their family, do not leave their loved ones, so they decide to stay to protect their loved ones. Simply, every day they look at their family, for a long time, they will gradually forget their own existence. Then one day, the families they know, or the people they love, are all dead. In this world, there are no people they know anymore, no one knows about them anymore. At that time, for the first time, they realize that, ah, why am I still here? But it's too late now, they have no chance to go up anymore. At another time, when their family dies, someone will come to pick them up. If their family has gone up, they will never meet these people again, except when their family also becomes a ghost, then it is possible to meet. And then Mizusawa asked the old man, so what will happen to the ghosts who can't go up anymore? The old man said, these spirits will wander everywhere and then decide their own existence, gradually becoming a small dot. Mizusawa asked, is it becoming a spirit? Spirit is a Japanese way of explaining the existence of the soul. It is the small dots that used to appear in pictures like this. Some people think that this is actually the soul, and they often appear near the water. Mizusawa asked the old man, are these things? The old man said, I don't know about spirits, maybe not. And then Mizusawa asked the old man, so why are they concentrated in places where there is no water? Mizusawa said, because of the sound. Mizusawa asked, what sound? Mizusawa said, the sound in the womb. At this time, the old man was surprised. It was because the cave was dark and narrow, very similar to the environment in the womb. There is water in the womb, so at night in the water, the ghosts that appear very similar to the womb should be concentrated there. Therefore, the ghost spirits that now often concentrate in the caves or in the water, they are all people who have decided not to leave. Maybe they are because of their loved ones, because of their family, so they decided to stay. Until the family and loved ones are no longer there, they will concentrate here, and the sounds in the womb will gradually disappear. So he said, they are very pitiful souls. Then Mizusawa asked again, can other people see you? The old man said, usually not. Then he said, who can see? Can supernatural entities see? He basically lied that there were no supernatural entities. He said, who can see the soul is decided by the ghost. He said another thing, if I intend to let you see me, I will take a step forward. If I don't want anyone to see me, I will take a step back, then you won't see me. So the decision to see the soul or not is not because this person has a great ability or any ability, but completely determined by the ghost. From this conversation, we can see that even if we don't have a supernatural nature, or any special nature, we still have a chance to see the ghost. As long as this ghost decides to let us see, we will be able to see. And those who always see the ghost, they are not the problem of this person, but the problem of the ghost. If they want to appear in front of this person, this person will see. Then Mizusawa asked a very important question, why did I see you? He said, actually I don't know this question anymore. Actually he didn't intend to take a step forward, so when he first saw Mizusawa, he was shocked and asked if he could see him. Mizusawa said, maybe I was blind. Here he explained what was blind. He said, when we want to talk to others, and want them to hear everything, we will make them blind. If not, people will be afraid to run away, so they can't talk. That is, sometimes the ghost wants to say something, or convey some information, it will block you here, so you can't move and receive this information. So the blind is also called the ghost of the forest. Mizusawa said, ah, that's it. It's true that if there is a ghost full of blood, I'm afraid to run away. He said, no, there is no ghost like that. Mizusawa said, I see ghosts in TV shows wearing white clothes and long hair, they look scary. He said, no, most ghosts pay attention to their clothes, especially women. There are old women who wear clothes like when they were young, just like us here, wearing work clothes. At that time, he wore work clothes. And then Mizusawa asked, ah, that's right, why do you wear work clothes? He said, when I was young, I was an electrician, and he was a gardener. We all wore work clothes. Why do we have to wear like this? It's to make it easier for people to recognize us. Because ghosts often appear at night, in a difficult situation and look like that. If they also want people and friends to easily recognize them, then they have to wear symbolic clothes. That is to say, ghosts will wear the clothes they usually wear when they are alive. And then Mizusawa asked a question, why are ghosts sometimes buried like that? In Japan, there is a type of ghost like that. That is, when taking a group photo, suddenly half of the face appears, or a broken arm in the back. So Mizusawa just said, why are ghosts buried again? He said, basically, ghosts can't be buried, but sometimes they don't know why they can be buried. They don't know what the reason is. If a ghost discovers that we are about to take a photo, they will usually bury it immediately. But they don't know if we have finished taking the photo. So sometimes they want to see if we have finished taking the photo. Just when the head is exposed, the result is that it is buried. This is why most of the photos of ghosts being buried appear in slanted angles, or half face, half arm. He also said, if a ghost is buried by the whole person, the consequences will be very serious. Mom will be angry. He said, Mom is scary. And then he started to say, who is mom? Long story short, this content is also extremely important. But Mizusawa said, I don't remember anything at all at this point. The content that Mizusawa remembered so much is that after he finished talking to the old man, he recorded it right away because he was afraid that he would forget. But this part about mom, it's clear that he just finished talking, but he couldn't remember. He only remembers when the old man first said, Mom is scary. And then he started to say, how is mom? It's a long story, very long. However, at this time, he couldn't remember a word anymore. These are the notes at that time. From 20 years ago, it was like this, there was no change at all. He was worried that this content would gradually be forgotten, or maybe his memory was confused, there were places where he was wrong, so he wrote it down again. This note may not completely restore the content of the conversation at that time. But unfortunately, the part that the old man explained to him about mom, he didn't remember anymore. Only this part is not remembered. But he still remembers the last sentence that the old man said, Now we have to go, do you want to go with us? Mizusawa said, No, no, I just called my girlfriend. She will be here soon, I won't go anywhere. Then the old man said, So, okay, let's go. Finally, he said one more sentence, I will live a long time. And then the two old men suddenly disappeared. This kind of disappearance is like a constant transformation, there is nothing left. And just when those two people disappeared, suddenly he heard the sound of someone opening the house door, then ran up. Just opened the door, it was Mizusawa's girlfriend. His girlfriend said, How are you? Mizusawa said, At that time, I saw two old men standing right under his feet talking to him. His girlfriend said, I was shocked. At this time, Mizusawa suddenly felt that his body was fine. Although before, I felt like I was going to die. It also means that when a ghost is near us, the body will have a very uncomfortable reaction. And then he immediately rewrote this content, so we have this note. But this is not over yet, who are these two old men? Especially the old man on the left, all the time, he didn't say a word, his face was frowning. The next day, after Mizusawa went to work, he immediately rewrote the note. At this time, his sister also came home. His sister is a nurse at a local hospital. Normally, she stays behind the hospital, only sometimes she comes home. And today she came home. When she went to see Mizusawa, she looked at the newspaper in his hand. Looking through one, she suddenly stood up and said, This is not the other patient of my sister. She pointed to a picture on the newspaper. Mizusawa hadn't seen it yet. He looked at it and realized this picture was the old man on the left. He asked who this was. His sister said, This is a patient I'm in charge of. He said, I saw this person yesterday. The content of the newspaper that his sister saw is a local newspaper. Some small newspapers publishing in the local area will post these announcements. Mizusawa said, I met this person yesterday. He asked me to thank you. The old man on the left didn't say a word last night. Mizusawa said, I was just saying it. I think the old man meant it. That's why I said it. And that night, the old man on the left appeared in his dream again. This time it was a dream. He dreamed of this old man smiling and looking at him. He just looked at him and didn't say anything. Then he gradually disappeared. The face of the old man was different from yesterday. It felt like he was released. This story ended like that. This story could have been a simple dream, or an illusion, or a near-death experience. No matter what it is, it doesn't matter. What matters is that it's a reasonable explanation for the soul. After we die, we actually become a ghost. At first, we may not know or understand. At this time, things will happen around us to explain to us that we are actually dead. For example, things like funerals. If one day we see our own funeral, we can understand that we are dead. When we realize this, there will be someone to take us away. At this time, we have to make the most important choice of our life. Should we go with that person? There is only one chance. If you follow them, you will go up, work for a while, line up, and finally reincarnate. If you decide not to go and stay, you can continue to see your family or your lover. However, if you decide not to go up, you decide to wander, you will not have a chance to go up again. At first, you can always stay with your family or your lover. But when they are all gone, there is no one in this world who knows you anymore. You don't know anyone anymore. Suddenly, you will realize that you are dead. And then you will be like other souls wandering around the tunnel and near the lake, listening to the last sound in your mother's womb, and then gradually disappearing, turning into a small dot. At this time, your soul may have completely disappeared. But if you decide to reincarnate, your soul will continue to exist. So this decision is up to you. Therefore, if you hear any sound near the lake or in the tunnel, don't be afraid. They are not bad people. In fact, they are lonely souls full of love. It's just that no one knows them anymore, so they gather near those places. Over time, they will also disappear. In this dialogue, there is extremely important information. That is, when you see this ghost, you don't just want to see that you can see it, but it is decided by the ghost. If they decide to let you see it, you will be angry. However, even if you show up in front of others, you can't. Your mother will be angry. In the end, we don't know what your mother is. This memory is erased. Extremely scary. There is one thing Mizusawa is very careful about. If these two old men simply came to meet his sister, that is, accidentally entered his room and was seen by him, why did they want to take him away? It feels like Mizusawa was in a near-death experience at that time. That is, if he really followed them, then this life was over. However, after he refused, the old man said one sentence, I will live very long. What does this sentence mean? Thank you for watching. If you want, you can subscribe to watch the next videos. 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