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Dr. Wang Weiluo, a famous environmental and ecological expert in Germany, recently wrote in an article that the upper Yellow River area is facing a comprehensive ecological environmental disaster. On December 18, 2023, there was an earthquake in Jishishan County on the upper Yellow River, which was a warning from God to China. I interviewed Dr. Wang Weiluo. Dr. Wang, you mentioned in the article that for modern Chinese, Jishishan County, Gansu Province, is a remote and backward place. But the earliest geographical book in China, Shangshu Yu Gong, has records of the Jishishan River entering the Canghai River. In the 17th and 18th centuries, there were records of Jishishan or the Jishishan River in Shijingzhu and Shanhaijing. If Jishishan is understood as a place, and the Jishishan River is understood as a river, then Jishishan or Jishixia may be the legendary place where the rain comes to water, and it may also be the origin of Chinese civilization. Can you talk about this in detail? In 2016, Professor Wu Qunlong of Nanjing Normal University of Geography and some people published an article in the American Nature Magazine. They found that there was a huge disaster on the upstream of the Yellow River, which is in this area of ​​the earthquake, that is, in the area where this reservoir dam company is located. He described it this way, that is, at that time, due to the earthquake that caused the Yellow River to build a dam on the upstream of the dam, a Yanshai Lake was formed. The height of the Yanshai dam is 180 meters to 200 meters, which is equivalent to the height of the Shanxia dam now. The water supply after the dam reached 1.8 billion cubic meters, slightly less than the water supply of the Shanxia reservoir. After a few months of water supply, the Yanshai Lake was washed away by the flood, and a flood occurred. How big is the flow? It reached 300,000 cubic meters per second, which is three times the flow of flood in the Shanxia region for more than 10,000 years. Then, the flood here buried all the villages on the north bank of the Yellow River in Qinghai. When they excavated the archaeological site, the remains of these people at that time were preserved in the state of being suddenly up when they were affected by the disaster. Just like the Italian Pompeii, which was extinguished by volcanic ash, it is also the state that people retained before death, that is, the state of a mother holding a baby can still reappear. In 2016, the Pompeii city of Asia was found here, which was a site of huge disasters, but it was very shocking. Professor Wu Qinglong believes that this is the place where the great flood occurred in this book. In Chinese, there is also such a record that the great rain caused the water to fall into the Jishi River, and they connected the Jishi River with this place. It is said that the great rain was not caused by the Jishi River downstream of the Yellow River in Luoyang Mountain, but by the Jishi River downstream of the Yellow River. So there is such a saying that the island and the Jishi River are connected. At that time, it was very exciting to confirm the legend of the great flood and the legend of the great rain. There are a lot of people who say that there was a great flood in some places. The people of Gansu say that there was a great flood in Jishi Mountain. There are places where there was a great flood, there are footprints of a great flood, and there are a lot of things that have been left behind. Last year, everyone knew that the 24 Chinese civilization history written by Mr. Yizhongtian was removed from the book. Why do people say that Mr. Yizhongtian wrote Xi Jinping as Yuan Shao in the book? He said that Yuan Shao was so bad. I think why Mr. Yizhongtian was removed from the book. Because his point of view is that Chinese civilization is 3,700 years old. Mr. Yizhongtian believes that the history of Chinese civilization began with the Shang Dynasty. The Great Red Flood in Jishi Mountain proposed by Professor Wu Qinglong was finally analyzed by the Stone Age. It is estimated that it was between 3,800 and 3,900 years ago. If it was a great flood, then it was a great flood. At present, it is estimated that it has a history of 4,000 years. Basically, it is consistent with Mr. Yizhongtian's theory. In 2016, it was a hot topic in the world. China found the place where the Great Red Flood occurred. The history of the Great Red Flood occurred in various nations in the world. There is also such a record. Christianity and Islam have the same record of the Great Red Flood. At that time, it was very turbulent in 2016. China found the evidence. In that area, there was a ruin that was submerged by the flood. In this area, a cultural heritage memorial hall was built in China. It was listed as a national cultural heritage site in China. Unfortunately, in the December earthquake, the national cultural heritage site was also destroyed. It didn't collapse. Many exhibits inside were also destroyed. Because there was no bronze in it, only pottery. These objects were also destroyed. So the damage was very big. In addition, you also mentioned in the article that the Yellow River upstream is facing a huge ecological environment and a comprehensive disaster. Why do you think so? I think the Jishu Three-Line Earthquake that happened on the upstream of the Yellow River is a warning from God to China. The Yellow River upstream is facing a huge ecological environment and a comprehensive disaster. This includes rainstorms, floods, earthquakes, landslides, mudslides, reservoirs, dams, etc. At the end of 2021, several scientists completed a research project of the China Natural Science Foundation. The topic is called the geological surface process of the Yellow River Basin and the major disaster effects. In China, the level of the research fund is the highest. It is a project of the National Natural Science Foundation. It says that the major disasters in the Yellow River Basin are not divided into many types and have a strong impact. And the disasters are often repeated and the consequences are serious. These major disasters directly destroy the ecological environment of the Yellow River Basin, affect the safety of the Yellow River Basin, challenge the permanence of the Yellow River Basin, that is, whether people can live in it, restricting the development of the ecological protection and high quality of the Yellow River Basin. The Yellow River Basin is a vast, deep and vast ocean on the land of China. It is also a bitter river that has experienced a lot of hardship. As early as 1980, the Nature magazine reported that the Yellow River Basin is a bitter river. The Chinese children in the Yellow River Basin have lived and died in the Yellow River Basin for generations. They have lived and died in the Yellow River Basin, taking care of the Yellow River and defending the Yellow River. After thousands of years, this state of suffering has changed dramatically. But at present, the Yellow River Basin is still one of the world's most vulnerable reservoir systems. One of the fundamental sources of this vulnerability and even suffering is the frequent major disasters in the basin. The major disasters in the Yellow River Basin mainly refer to the huge waves on the upstream, the water and soil disasters in the middle and the huge floods downstream. When he talked about the huge waves on the upstream of the Yellow River, he specifically talked about this place. He said so. The huge waves have the characteristics of the distribution of rivers along the space. In particular, the huge waves of the Longyang Gorge to the Liujiaxia River are the most typical. It is the huge waves of the Jishi Gorge, which was developed by Tiji. This section of the huge waves is the most typical. He also pointed out that the huge waves in the Jishi Gorge area on the upstream of the Yellow River play a weak supporting role in the development of the wave pattern and scale. Then he talked about this reservoir. The change of the water level in the reservoir and the downpour and the artificial engineering activities are the main causes of the huge waves. Under the effect of structural movements, earthquakes and extreme weather, a large number of huge waves and floods have grown on the upstream of the Yellow River. The flood disaster caused by the huge waves of the Yellow River has even destroyed human civilization. At the same time, the huge waves of the Yansai Lake in the Duhe River will have a significant environmental impact on the evolution process in the Duhe River. That is, the place we are discussing is the place where these experts think there is a huge geological disaster on the upstream of the Yellow River. According to Chinese experts, a huge disaster will occur in the entire Yellow River Basin, including the huge waves on the upstream of the Yellow River. There will be water and soil disasters and huge floods on the downstream. For the Chinese, it is indeed a very urgent problem.