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Brady your initial thoughts on tonight's game uh we'll we'll hold on the surprise of tonight but let's hone in on bam just to kind of get that out of the way I think a lot of people are going to be asking what the heck's going on with him I mean we see it here uh the comments did you see bam is in his head for real um you know there's people that are saying that um you know he's being small and it killed us as usual so I think that this is going to be a uh a reoccurring theme how did you feel about Bam's game tonight and the overall play of the team no doubt it was a problem like that's why we needed to start here and talk about it because it's gotten to the point now over 24 hours uh he's hurt them in two straight games and two straight losses and it gets to a point where uh when you're being leaned on as the second best player in the team it really it just can't happen consistently um what is going on specifically is kind of the question I feel like that keeps being thrown out there he's just in he that comment right there like he he's in his head like there's no doubt about it he you could just tell and the one thing that I point to is the free throw like he's getting even when he gets to the line like these free throws have been shaky recently and it just seems like he's just doubting himself like there's too many points like the the one for n shooting is one thing which is just not not okay but the turnovers like the turnovers is what shows me that he's really in his head because there's too many points where it seems like okay he can get up he can get to his spot and get a shot but he's so doubting it that now he's forcing a kickout that's not there because the team is not helping off their weak side Shooters and it's a steal it's going the other direction then he had the one kind of where I think it was hakz switched dunker spots and Bam just threw a a pass out of bounds on that Baseline it's like he's just in his head right now he just is and it's in he's kind of kicking into this inefficiency and you know Jimmy has also like Jimmy put up numbers tonight as well but I felt like he was definitely not his best for for a majority of that game but Bam's kind of the focal point here and the reason I bring up Jimmy is because even when Jimmy has his down games he's able to get to the line a ton so it's almost like it does he can outweigh it and say okay well he did this and he still put up the box score numbers bam doesn't get is not getting the whistle like a friendly whistle that it's like if he's in efficient he's inefficient like he he better get to his spots and hit shots because he's not gonna he's not gonna get to the free throw line consistently anyway so um yeah Five Points one for nine like not to box score watch and hard on it but like you can't have that in a game like this on the road against the top tier team in the west when you needed him and you're already down as much as everybody likes to talk about like losing Tyler herro is no problem you're down a Tyler herro you're down a 20 point per game score you cannot have that type of performance so it hurt them it it did and it felt like they actually went on some runs there with yic at the five like it felt like he provided cuz he was playing confidently like he was playing with his head up he was playing with an ability to get the shot up uh and he wasn't afraid to attack so yeah he he he seems like he's in his head right now and maybe you know a pair of home games coming up you know an easier one coming up on Sunday hopefully he can get out of this this rut he's in but it's a problem right now it is they never last long but right now it is it's been ugly for bam there's no way around it I mean even if you look recently at his shoot shooting numbers I mean you're talking 8 of 17 5 of 14 one of nine tonight so that shooting can creep into other parts parts of your game uh the commenters are just going crazy here with some of the uh with some some of the overreactions to it though Eternal your thoughts on bam but not only bam let's shift uh the focus to to Jimmy I think everybody can see that the gamer of the night's not going to be bammer Jimmy unfortunately Jimmy almost had a triple double he played well tonight 20 points 10 re rebounds eight assists but it was a quiet kind of 20 it was a quiet almost triple double your thoughts on the game itself but bam and Jimmy as well as they led the team yeah I kind of I kind of agree with everybody else right like I agree with BR we talked about it on playback make sure you guys come join us on playback uh I felt like bam was in his head you know you can kind of tell against Dallas last night that he was kind of bothered a little bit by the length I'm not going to say that bam is small we've seen him play you know this season against jiren Jackson against Miles Turner against ad and all of those things um so I'm not going to do bam like that but I do think he is in his head whether that's on court or off Court who knows I'm not g to speculate um but he gave up a rebound last night that resulted in the three there was a tip out tonight with Lou Dort with uh Hae and and Bam kind of like draped all over him he tipped it out and it results to na3 so um you know those are just crucial crucial baskets um that you can't give up when you actually have a chance um you know to get the get the rebound and those are the 50-50 plays that you can kind of tell Brady uh GRE was kind of pissing SP off during the night you know because again like how how many games in the row have we been talking about like Miami losing um you know that kind of rebound battle where they're giving up so many offens rebounds which are resulting in Second Chance points I just looked uh kind of to have your back grade uh you know Miami didn't lose three on the road straight but uh in those games so you have the Nuggets Trailblazers Kings um uh Pistons Mavericks and tonight the Thunder um again you know just giving up offense crucial crucial offensive rebounds and I'm not going to even say sometime Brady they're not boxing out because they do box out sometimes and they're still not getting the rebound you know so um don't know what's going on there but I I would say definitely um you know you can't have these type of games from bam offensively and not get you know something somewhere somewhere else where he's just you know making a Monumental impact on the game I'm cool like I said on playback you're not going to have your best night every night just like Jimmy didn't have his best night tonight but I mean still almost gave you a triple double so I mean let's let's get something else from you um because you're supposed to be a top 15 player in the league and a two-way Elite player you got to have something um especially with you know Chad not having a great night tonight um Jaylen Williams didn't really give you anything um thunderous you got out of Jaylen Williams let's see give me a second Jaylen Williams gave you 15 points four ass and five rebounds I mean between those guys they I mean even Josh giddy I mean Chad hren only getting seven points three rebounds three assists you're right they kind of held all those guys at Bay but there's one guy that they didn't hold at Bay we're g to talk about him next as the rocky Sports gamer of the night and now on five on the floor it's time for the gamer of the night sponsored by Rock Esports Center the place to eat drink and play all day host your next birthday party with them located at 15305 South Dixie Highway in petto Bay they've got a 5500t state-of-the-art center equipped with all the high-end power play all day passes available for just 25 bucks but if you mention five reasons it's just $20 so mention five reasons or five RSN you get to play all day for $20 and now the gamer of the night so if I had an MVP vote he would be my MVP Shay Gillis Alexander 37 points 13 of 25 from the field nine of 11 from the free throw line two of seven from three five rebounds six assists only one turnover two blocks and a steal and the dude is just so smooth with the way he plays the game he is the gamer of the night I'm not even gonna ask either one of youall what could they have done to stop him because nobody stops Shay gilis Alexander um but I do I'm I'm interested in both of your takes on uh sgaa so make sure that as we come around the mountain here you get the opportunity to speak on the gamer of the night but let's talk about the surprise of the night uh and that was with Eric spola inserting a brand new Miami Heat player into the mix that I don't think many thought were would get minutes tonight and that's Patty Mills and he showed up and he showed out he played really well it was primarily a first half effort that really jumped out at everybody but it was a contributing factor in the game and uh I think everyone was pretty surprised to see him play Eternal was one of them I think that a lot of people thought with SGA playing as well as he was and being the gamer of the night and being probably the favorite for gamer of the night uh that dlon Wright and his point of attack defense and just overall physical defense would be the kind of player that would get that run but he wasn't Eternal your thoughts on uh the idea to go with Patty Mills what you saw from Patty Mills uh and then just also um maybe if you had done anything differently what you would have done on SGA since he was our gamer of the night man I first and foremost uh that was a f very very funny moment because I think we all reacted um at the same time like damn he's playing batty Mills um and then immediately uh Brady Greg Patty me hit a three it was like oh okay and then he hits another three and then another three and so like you you got to see the plays and not only that but he you know um Drew you know drew a potential charge in there so I mean you got to see what you wanted I think he had 11 points in seven minutes he ended up finish the game with 13 points and 15 minutes and 39 seconds if anything besides Patty playing that was surprising but I think once you start getting into that third quarter guys you start to see Shay starting to heat up in that 14-point chipping down um you're not really seeing the best out of Caleb defensively against Shay um I think they had Haywood in the first half a little bit against Shay you wasn't really seeing anything like too Dynamic like okay well maybe we can kind of stick with this I think tonight would have been a great night to kind of get dvon On The Floor to kind of see if he could you know possibly cause some disruption on some Chaos on Shay not stop him but you know kind of slow him down a little bit but also too at the end and then I pass the ball to Brady I was kind of surprised that you know that we didn't see Jimmy on shade primarily at the end not all game but at the end normally those perimeter guys you see Jimmy kind of switch out on to them um so I was kind of surprised that we didn't see that yeah Brady your thoughts on um on Patty mills's first appearance in Miami and then just overall the idea of uh not going to D I'm interested to pick your brain there as well so I'll start with that part the I was surprised because number one I was kind of on last night show saying that they kind of can open up a rotation spot by doing what they did with playing yic as the back of five just kind of Staggering them and it looked good and they can kind of continue to do that with Kevin Love out the issue with you know like Jimmy guarding Shay let's say at the end of a game is when you're playing Terry Rosier you're kind of forced to put him now on a bigger Wing against a team like this so like that's kind of where the problems become and it's why we had the conversation on the podcast about like closing lineups it's because it becomes tough it becomes tough to play multiple small guards because of that defensive ability because it's not because okay they're going to pick on them the issue is that you have they have to guard the opposing team's best guard because if you put your better Wing defender on them now your two guards guarding like a three or a four so that becomes a problem um and I think we saw that in a game like this it's why I thought Delon would be the option just because of that very reason because they played Hayward which is going to be what he's going to do Haywood's ahead of D in the pecking orders B is going to trust Haywood more so but the issue is like I just said like Haywood wasn't able to stick Shay because of that reason because then these other guys are kind of forced to size up a little bit more and it becomes a problem so you saw Shay do what he does best he was able to kind of play in single coverage a lot of bit a lot of the time there go at Duncan go go at Terry Rosier get to his mid-range spots he was able to fire over the top so uh on the side of Patty Mills not to say like they should have played on and they shouldn't have played Patty because they probably don't have that big lead if it wasn't for Patty Mills coming in and shooting the way he did and I just thought he talk about being ready coming in and being put in that spot and I was saying on playback earlier when we were watching the game Greg where we were saying you know everybody thinks of a point guard coming in and it's like okay another guy to take up usage but it's not really Patty mills's role like he's really an off ball player at this stage and it seemed like a pretty good one with the way he was able to catch and he has such a quick release such a quick trigger to able to get that shot off that he doesn't even know the system yet and he was able to get those shots off and if they if they were to continue to play him and there's there's injuries and he gets rotation minutes they could play him in different spots off handoffs and pin downs and everything to kind of work him off ball it feels like he could be an asset offensively he he just looked pretty smooth out out there um so I thought that was a positive obviously but they are going to have to figure out the defensive stuff because yeah it was a 107 to 100 game which you'd probably say yeah we'll take that defensively but if you watch game there was some slippage like this was was a game they could have had they went had not only the BAM thing not only the offensive thing but there was just too many possessions you mentioned the offensive rebounding thing but too many just possessions they just gave away and that's why I feel like the defensive thing kind of kind of kicked in agree wholeheartedly there was a guy who kept them in it throughout we're going to talk about him next as we get into the a aggressive play of the night and now it's time for the insurance byet play of the night sponsored by insurance vet.com at a aggressive Insurance Agency you can reach out to our friend Lynette at 95458 8800 that's 95458 8800 or insurance fet.my with two NS and two T's your best play for Auto Insurance homeowners insurance condo Insurance life insurance or a retirement program reach out to Lynette at insurance by lin.com so I think we actually have two and they both came from the same player the guy was just unbelievable tonight if there's a bright spot for Miami at all it is haime hakz JR who had a huge game 25 points 10 of 13 from the field three rebounds three assists three steals Brady your favorite haime hakz play of the night was it was definitely the one in the first half where like he was posting up giddy like in the mid post he spins Baseline and he has a help come from the corner he pump fakes he goes flying into gidy like takes two guys out with that pump fake alone then it's Chad who also help down because there's three Defenders basically around him uh and he finishes over the top of chat kind with a little hook over the top where it's like no he was clicking like he was absolutely clicking and I kept saying it over and over and I it's not that I have a problem with it it's just more so that I'm surprised because nothing changed but like there was not a major change in the rotation where somebody was out and it's like okay we're getting Haim haak the ball tonight Jimmy's you know Jimmy's not playing let's get Hae these reps it's the same it's the same guys playing and they basically said we're going to let haime uh usage go up we're going to give him more more reps in the mid post and I'm a big fan of that they need to they he has an ability um to mismatch hunt to play in that range and there's no reason not to utilize that constantly there's no reason to just put him out at the three-point line and use him as a spacer to hit occasional threes it's not his game it it's just not so you got to use him in that range uh and he was he was just attacking and and getting into the pain and finishing over the top of Defenders the funny thing I always say like the difference between him and Jimmy like Jimmy will search out a matchup that he wants and he'll attack it haim's just going to go at whoever's under the net like he's just if Chad's there he'll take it on up on Cad and he'll try to finish over the top of him so um when he's clicking like that he's just a you know a momentum guy like the team feeds off of that stuff and in a game where we keep saying they didn't have the the paint stuff from bam haime provided that and provided a little bit of the collapsing on the defense that allowed some of the shots so great game from him like they this was one of those things where um we may look back at this game and say okay this is the game where he really found a rhythm late in the season is able to kind of catapult off this because even when Tyler returns I really do wholeheartedly believe they need to get this guy reps in that mid post they cannot go away from it he's too good in that spot of the floor to not utilize it it that's so true and I I agree with you there because when we were talking pre-show about his game tonight we I mean you and eternal both immediately had plays that you could spout off the top of your head Eternal your favorite haime hakz junr play and then also just his uh you're analyze the game in general from him because it was a master class from him I mean if we're going to pull anything from A Loss it's probably his performance right absolutely yeah I think ha just had just such a strong strong first quarter came out the gates blazing um you know just kind of you know he put Shay on his back early in the first quarter um and you know and got a got a score in a paint and I just think again like Brady said uh you got to take advantage of him um in the mid-range and also in the post um whether you got Tyler on the court or not or available to play Rather um but I think you know you got exactly what you needed out of High T night um to kind of keep the game going gave you 25 points by himself Off the Bench um so he provided most of the scoring outside of Patty Mills Off the Bench um outside of them um you didn't really get anything else from your bench you got 25 from high seven from Caleb 13 from Patty um and you didn't get anything from Haywood but I think um just kind of coming out of this game with a positive between last night and tonight um it's kind of you kind of seeing how may get back to form so I think that's you know a really really good positive and also to make a correction on something they did not get a three after that ludor uh tap out it was a jayen Williams um it was a foul by Terry afterwards and then Jaylen Williams layup yes thank you for clarifying that um the the haime hakz stuff for me you're right like he his moves in the mid post it's so intuitive the way that he plays they got to lean into that more for a team that struggles to get easy baskets he fight figures out a away and fights to get those to become easy baskets whether he's you know turning off of one shoulder or the other he's super comfortable doing all kinds of stuff that nobody else on the team really gets to um I I loved H's game if there's anything that we're going to take from this other than Patty Mills coming out and showing uh some three-point shooting skills I think that it's timei hawz JR definitely could potentially be finding his rhythm uh as we talk about Rhythm we're going to go into the Eric Rubenstein injury report and then get final thoughts from both of these gentlemen and now it's time for the official five on the floor injury report sponsored by our friend Eric Rubenstein the personal injury attorney born and raised in Lauderdale Florida lives in Miami went to St Thomas he's a South Florida guy and a huge Miami Heat fan but the important thing is he can help you get your money that you deserve when something happens to you so reach out to our guy Eric Rubenstein again Eric Rubenstein docomo me I got you on Instagram and now the injury report injury report will be quick Josh Richardson don't expect him back anytime soon Kevin Love I think that he'll be back relatively soon he may even be back after this trip uh if not shortly thereafter I know that they were waiting for the soreness to go away for him and Tyler herro we have no updates it's been really quiet there so I don't have anything other other to say than hopefully they will uh get him playing soon um Eternal your final thoughts on tonight's ball game and then looking ahead obviously to uh their next ball game back home I think the most interesting thing of the night bam only played 30 minutes and 46 seconds um only had one foul for the game Nico played 29 minutes 34 seconds because we finally got Nico four quarter minutes and I feel that's very very interesting um besides you know the offensive struggles from bam for SPO not to play bam you know 36 37 minutes CU Jimmy played 36 minutes and 59 seconds um he played the most minutes of anybody in the night so it's just very interesting we didn't see um more of Bam um tonight and to kind of follow up um they gave up 60 points in the second half after do it every time after giving up 47 in the first half they gave up 60 um and this is the second game obviously back at to back they've lost um after having a lead because they had a lead in Dallas had a lead tonight going into the half and they lost but um going to the Wizards I expect them to come out very ferocious there's no other like you can't have these type of losses because it wasn't like you got blown out you you got out hustled and your defense started to slip like Brady said um so I think you know they'll come out on Sunday against them Wizards uh you know a little bit more focused and ready to um kind of get back on track Brady your final thoughts on the Thunders 107 100 victory over the Miami Heat tonight yeah I'm honestly going to stick with kind of turn those hint and it really it really comes down to the defense for me I know we're going to sit here and talk about B which we already did and he's kind of the guy that needs to turn it back on Jimmy I think still has to hit that that second level that he's been hitting in February toward the end of February but but defensively I mean they were the number one defense in February and that's what turned this whole winning streak in into something why the reason they turned that that whole seven game losing streak into kind of a positive made a run in the Eastern Conference is because they they were the number one defense in the NBA at that point uh I think across March which I know is not a lot of games I think it's like three or four now at this point they're like 28th in defense which small sample size but like it just shows what what is happening right now like you're just seeing a much worse version of them on that edge that can't happen you have to be able to figure some stuff out there um I don't know if it's a coverage shift I don't know if it's kind of getting back to what because this the stuff we talked about on that seven game L streak like is it effort is it is it coverages they're kind of limited as as much as they have rotational options defensively they're kind of limited to their coverages at this point with some of the lineups they're running because of the stuff I mentioned like they can't put certain guys on certain guys because they'll have to size up they can't switch As Much with bam because then you know guys like Duncan or Rosier will be having to switch down on bigger guys so they're kind of forced to play this this Blitz game or drop game it's like one of the two or Zone obviously and it's kind of just kind of funneling through those three options so they really just have to get it back together on that end as much as we talk about them not being a good transition team like they do feed off turnovers still they they F they really Thrive off those kill shots of trying to just just turn you over make it in the mud and try to make get opportunities off that so they really need to get get it back together I guess on that end first off I mean in a game like this where you're only making 11 threes um they shot 38% but like they they just need to get that number up I guess a little bit because they can't they can't keep falling into this trap of playing inside the arc they need to kind of get that ball up a little bit Duncan obviously had had kind of a Down game or or he did have a down game he was still pretty efficient three of eight from three but he had nine points like you this kind of shows the thing and I know now everybody's on Bam's case so it's like are you allowed to slip in the fact that this was a a game where they could used Tyler a little bit or am I not allowed to say that I don't know no you totally are this shows they need everybody they they have enough but they need everyone and I Tyler actually had the game winner I just want to say I think in OKC last year which is just funny noted what's up one more thing um not only did Jimmy's three-point streak in tonight after 16 games his streak of steals you're right so to to Brady's point about like turnovers and getting out in transition Jimmy didn't have a steal tonight um zero steals tonight after having two um last night and also uh Brady kind of just want to throw this back to you I think this is the first game where you didn't have like a typical Duncan Robinson game um you know where he didn't you know not just shoot well from the floor but do some other things on the floor and I think this is the first time that you had that happen I mean he didn't he didn't shoot a two which is weird for dunan Robinson nowadays this is 2024 this is where dunan Robinson should have at least four five two-point attempts no but no it does it kind of shows where they're at like they I I felt like he kind of was inefficient to start and you kind of told you could kind of tell where the game was going for him a little bit but 100% this is kind of a game where I didn't feel like he it almost felt like he took the use haime took the usage from Duncan in in some ways like it they've been leaning on Duncan so heavily in this offense recently whether if it was scoring or not whether it was to getting to the lane or not he was playmaking he just had the ball in his hands so much that this was a game now where they kind of switch roles a little bit and you you're were able to see that a little bit so I mean they'll have to try to straighten that out and figure out I think it's fine that they they kind of mix up the the usage a little bit and let these different guys operate from different spots but once again we're we're now like pinpointing pinpointing little things from this game that probably weren't the real deciding factors there was a main there was two main deciding factors their two best players that obviously need to be better offensively uh and the defense I'm just going to keep saying it because I I Eric spos was probably in his press confence right now saying the same thing he's probably not even noting bams one for n night he's probably just talking about this defense in a 100 you know a 107 Point loss that's so true and um honestly these two losses my the My Level of concern is not high these are teams fighting for playoff positioning in the Western Conference we knew this was going to be a tough trip the ones you can't drop are coming up against Washington there's going to be a softening of the schedule that I think the heat are going to need to Feast upon they have a big opportunity move up in the standings I think they still sit at 6 after tonight so um plenty to look forward to but this was a tough stretch losing to Dallas now losing to Oklahoma City coming up short when you have the lead But ultimately I think that this will still um result in a team that finds its way out of the playin situation and into a favorable playoff matchup I'm Greg sander thank you to Eternal bass thank you to Brady Hawk thank you to our sponsors we will have you covered for that game Ethan uh Alex they were both at Rock Esports gaming center and Lounge for our party tonight they had a 2K tournament and watched the game there'll be more of those coming up uh but for now peace out and we will have you covered for Miami and uh who is it again Detroit the Wizards the Washington excuse me we'll have you covered for Miami Washington at home coming up uh in the next couple days peace out thank you for listening to the five on the FL on the F and Sports Network after all someone needs to listen to my dad