these are seven famous Asian dishes that
everybody loves but are actually
invented in America does orange chicken
count as Asian food maybe it does
because it's delicious but not Tosi
that's not that good um we got to talk
about it because this article says these
American Born Asian Cuisines represent
immigrant Ingenuity cultural exchange
and in many cases adaptation and there
is a discussion in the comment section
Andrew should these count as authentic
Asian food or not because they're
authentic to the Asian ameran experience
even though you cannot find them in Asia
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hot poop boys one thing that is Asian
and made in America and kind of made for
everyone but you know made with Asian
Taste Buds of mind is SMA sold out right
now but check it outa from San siis
interestingly enough Andrew SMA it goes
well on these Asian-American dishes but
also Asian Asian dishes um let's lead
off Andrew with orange chicken made in
America they said that it is based off
Loosely a Honan dish which is called
changji which uses dried citrus peels
however the modern day iteration that is
essentially like orange soda Fanta and
chicken nuggets mixed together was
invented in the 1980s by the head chef
at Panda Express very delicious though I
will say this kind of tastes like candy
uh I will say this this is the one
almost one of the most universally loved
Asian-American dishes you can't go
against this one all right David now not
all the dishes are Chinese what's the
next one uh the California roll and
there was a lot of debate about who
invented it was it La was it Vancouver
um but basically invented in the 1960s
got imitation crab in it avocado
cucumber yeah you can't tell me that
when you go to very authentic Japanese
spots they don't really have imitation
crab I don't know is that a thing was
that made would rather put real crab in
yeah but was that I don't know where
imitation crab comes from I want to say
it was way cheaper and also some
Americans only eat imitation crab which
is actually made from fish exactly so
California role is obviously designed
for Americans by the way I think these
dishes we have to note although they
were invented and made by Asian people
in America or in North America that they
were kind of making this catering to the
American taste buds yes yes yes most of
these recipes were concocted in the
1930s 40s 50s 60s and' 7s obviously
orange chicken probably being the last
one made up in the 80s since the 80s
Andrew people have been leaning more
into Renditions like one to one copies
of dishes from Asia right so David one
of the other old school ones is chop
sooie this is not a dish that I think
even a lot of Chinese restaurants serve
today well it's really just a concept
chop so chop so in canones just means
just whatever you have left over chopped
up throw it in a walk right I mean
technically I guess if you take
leftovers and you just chop stuff up and
you stir fry it it is chop sooi in some
way but no one is going going to order
chopi in probably most cities in America
right uh they said it emerged in 1884 in
chinatowns SF New York heard I heard now
that I believe chapsui I'm not sure if
that was designed only for Americans but
even for maybe the Asian Community
Chinese community at that time they said
that uh people were even eating it in
the uh the gold mines because you just
had the scraps left over it's kind of
like a kind of born out of struggle I
mean it is sort of like throwing
everything into a Crockpot in a western
sense that's sometimes what people used
to do with fried rice fried rice used to
you can see fried rice as kind of this
well you know you take the leftover
thing and you put it in rice and egg and
there you go uh General so's chicken is
up next Andrew this one is like more
heavily debated General so he was
supposed to be a Honan Chef a lot of
Honan influence in this stuff more than
you think and uh basically a lot of
people argue over who created it what's
your opinion on General souls for me I'm
way more of a Warren Chicken Guy uh we
just recently got General SS though we
were at the Pittsburgh airport and we
got some of chai Pittsburgh Fusion
Cuisine no cuz they're still more into
like the old school 1970s recipes over
there and remember what she told us cuz
we asked the lady we said hey how come
you don't serve orange chicken here but
she was serving General se's and chicken
and broccoli and then she goes well
actually you know it's uh Panda Express
serves the orange chicken so we don't
want to compete we just specialize in
the general souls and I thought their
General Souls was really good if you
think about Pittsburgh Andrew it's so
throwback she's like no no no that's too
modern the orange chicken is too Cutting
Edge just keep a general SS uh
apparently they didn't update that to
the 80s firmware yet uh crab
rangon actually emerged from a poian
tiki style restaurant called Trader vix
in the 1950s there was an Asian-American
Chef who was working for a white guy
called Joe Young and he basically took
cream cheese and he put it in a won
wrapper wrapped it up fried it called it
Yang Gan which was at that time the
capital of Burma but nowadays rangon
this one the story of the crab rang gron
is always very interesting to me because
it's not just Chinese it's like at a
Polynesian Tiki restaurant but named
after a Burmese City white owner Chinese
American Chef who was probably toy and
then now crab rangon is sold everywhere
even at Super Americanized Thai
restaurants and Chinese restaurants I
believe Trader Joe's has crab rangoons
oh yeah no they're good honestly uh
Trader Joe's Andrew Tiki themed they
have a lot of like these 1930s dishes
but this next one is not served by
Trader Joe's egg fu young was invented
in the 1930s it's been around for a
hundred years um it's a pancake filled
with eggs vegetables Meat and seafood
they said they invented at the St zo uh
Louis Missouri in 1930 this dish is low
key actually kind of good I've had it
before for the first time I think I had
it like five years ago I'll tell you
this this dish actually actually David
it we you would see it sometimes at the
larger Chinese buffets back in the day
like this was like when we were growing
up probably not anymore no and I would
never get it because it just looked like
a pile of eggs but actually as I got
older I think I might even appreciate
this dish a little bit more right which
is funny even though I'm it's not like a
dish I'll look out for I'm just saying
if there's a good fresh egg fu young and
I happen to be at that Buffet I might
take a scoop it's better than people
think yeah uh moving on Andrew we've got
the fortune cookie fortune cookie
actually invented by a Japanese
immigrant makato ha hagiwara in the
early 1900s but then it has become
associated with Chinese cuisine we
looked into this they have been eating
these as part as a Shinto ritual for
hundreds of years in Japan but they only
eat it once a year for New Years right
and there is no confucious saying inside
I don't think right right but but you
know what's funny David this is is one
of the two main food things that gets
accredited to Chinese that's actually
from Japan you know what the other one
is MSG A J aimoto that's the that's the
main MSG brand it was invented in Japan
but obviously Chinese restaurants kind
of get the bad rep for it anyways guys
um I will say this there's a couple
things that got left off this list
Andrew in the South and in the midwest
they like bourbon chicken okay I want to
say that was invented possibly in the
90s bourbon chicken is like essentially
grilled chicken but it's kind of served
at the
Asian buffet there may be some slight
Asian barbecue sauce in there mixed in
with the regular but it's not that Asian
of a dish it's not that Asian uh uh you
know what else is in there almond
chicken almond chicken and cashew
chicken but you know why a lot of people
don't know about those some of these
like dishes they only stayed in that
region like kind of you know what I mean
like I me in the midwest or something
like that I mean I think it goes the
same for lemon chicken all these other
right I mean chicken that's not from
China right I know in um parts of Canada
they eat strawberry beef yeah or they
eat like Tangerine beef or something
like that like basically these are like
Regional things like so these are dishes
kind of designed to serve the American
market and American taste buds and we're
going to talk about American taste buds
but I want to shout out to some Asian
Asian dishes that were invented in
America for other Asians in America you
mean these are Asian Enclave dishes that
don't exist in the motherland yeah like
these weren't in invented in Asia but
they were made for the Asian community
in America scallion pancake beef roll
from Taiwanese which is about the neuro
neuro drebing one of my favorite foods
originally based off this uh tbing from
Shandong where they just got this big
ass green onion in it but then they
added beef and hoine and other things
right they kind of made it a sandwich La
C which is the short rib cow as in Korea
they didn't start eating that short rib
cow until La did LA came up with you
mean with the bone in it yes and then
short rib F I'm pretty sure correct me
if I'm wrong that was invented in
America where we have the big beef ribs
don't you want to say that that was just
invented like 10 years ago yeah that's a
pretty recently new thing and then any
Asian buffet in America kind of is sort
of for Asians but sort of for Americans
anyways anyways David uh what is your
major takeaway before we get into the
comments section um I'll say this man
it's really interesting to see different
like age ranges of people in their
relationship with American invented
Asian Foods some people think they're
legit some people think they're not
legit and other people are just being
more sensible where it's like I just
enjoy it when I like it and I'm feeling
really American but hell no it's not
authentication food because it was
originally conceived to cater to make
money right so it's kind of like how do
you so how traditional or authentic of
Chinese food are these dishes or are
they fake Chinese food I don't really
agree with the term fake Chinese food
but it's definitely not authentic
Chinese food yeah it could still be good
but obviously it's done with a
completely different philosophy in mind
typically older Americans and are from
the 1950s 607s their pallets are very
simple it's like postwar World War II
they want just something sweet yeah I
like that sweet chicken then give me
that orange chicken give me that orange
chicken T like a kit K Bar you know what
I like to do I like to take them crab
rangoons and then dip them in the orange
chicken sauce so now I got orange
chicken crab rangoons it's not like what
a stereotypical or even a typical like
Asian Taste palette enjoys but so I
guess what I'm saying is like how could
it be authentic if it was catered for
somebody else that doesn't make any
sense that's like an Italian saying that
the Chinese durian pizzas are authentic
yeah it can be good you can enjoy it but
hell no that's not a real Pizza to
somebody from Italy well even the Philly
cheese steak Pizza is not authentic um I
think yeah I mean anyways guys food
doesn't need a label yeah obviously I
think people most people are past the
point of calling like orange chicken
authentic Chinese food just call it
Western Chinese food Western Asian food
Americanized Asian food but you know
what I realized there are a few people
and I feel like they're like dwindling
nowadays as America becomes more like
closer to Asia but people who only care
they care more about Asian-American
culture than Asian culture like you know
there's a few asian-americans that like
still fall into that and they were
arguing they were like you know what
this it doesn't even matter you can't
gatekeep what's authentic and I'm like
no just say you like it and it's
inauthentic because you can gate keep
what is authentic literally there have
of why can't you gatekeep what is
authentic yeah yeah no so as far as
gatekeeping that's legit like you can
gatekeep because if it's not authentic
it's not authentic but that doesn't mean
it's bad and whack and that we shouldn't
eat it right that's what I mean like I
eat inauthentic Mexican food all the
time right you like some hard shell
tacos I like some hard taco time I still
eat Taco Bell to this daytime Mexi
nuggets is that what a uh person from
Pua Mexico walk into Taco Bell and
recognize any of the dishes recognize
maybe like 2% of the menu right but that
it doesn't it could be valid but no it's
not authentic yeah no no um California
rolls are from Canada a lot of people
were arguing about it who invented it
the Philadelphia role Andrew
interestingly enough was based off
Philadelphia Cream Cheese rather than
the city yeah because there's nothing
really like Philly about it cu a
Philadelphia roll should have Philly
cheese steaks in it but shouldn't isn't
Philadelphia cream cheese from
Philadelphia uh it's not but it was
invented in Philadelphia weirdly enough
um some people were arguing about orange
chicken all right here's the thing well
what argu they're saying that Panda
Express didn't invent it and I'm saying
this I believe Panda Express in terms of
the gigantic meat chunks where it tastes
like chicken McNuggets mixed with orange
Fanta they invented it that version that
popped off they might not have invented
the idea of obviously putting Sweet
Orange Peel in with meat and then frying
it uh people were talking about how man
the only thing that people know from
Burma is the crab rangon but then
obviously nobody eats like tea leaf
salad or MinGa right right right right
but it's it's growing it's growing um
people were just saying man chopi was
just invented everywhere around the
world cuz every Chinatown even the old
ones in the Philippines from like 1600s
cuz Chinese have been in the Philippines
for a really long time uh they got chopi
too you know what I appreciate and I'm
coming to appreciate about chopi General
SS crab rangoons and egg fu Young on
this list is that those actually have
Asian words in
them what's based off chopu is Lites
yeah it's so it's literally based off
the Chinese word orange chicken those
are two English words where I'm saying
you're making other people say and these
are considered borrow words from a a a a
uh uh uh culture where those are Chinese
words like so TSO imagine how hard that
was for the first time when when like a
white like an American was trying to get
General tsos how do we say that General
because the T and the S is just not in
the English language yeah the T and the
S it's like it's supposed to be switched
so you just kind of oh you just kind of
make the drop the T but anyways can I
get some General
Tso um
ultimately you know do you think there's
going to be more American Asian dishes
invented like this in the future or are
we now really on just porting things
directly over from Asia oh okay so one I
think we are porting a lot of food
straight from Asia from the Asian chains
yeah because there's a lot more like
International Trade right you can get
the ingredients now no more embargo on
sichan peppercorn these brands are
coming from China over here so but I
also think that there's more any new
kind of Asian dishes I do think have
more Asians in mind like no one's just
catering purely to American taste buds
anymore you know what I mean right like
obviously when we made small ass sauce
like I do want everybody to like it but
we did make it with Asians in mind it
had to satisfy the Asian market where
it's like maybe orange chicken when they
made it they were like B Express was
like Hey you know like if we make this
dish and you know maybe the real Chinese
people they don't really eat it but
everybody else likes it it's okay but
it's like we would need Asians to
approve this right yes so I mean I think
there's just
a I think the whole argument about
authentic what's
inauthentic I think you need to still be
able to hold on and be like yo this is
from the motherland or this came from
the motherland so this is authentic but
at the end of the day enjoy what you
like man cuz I'll tell you this when I
see a Panda Express at the airport I
even see a little Manu walk a little
China Walk Express I'm curious you know
I am yeah well cuz it's kind of a peer
into somebody else's like a boomer old
non-asian or a white person's view on
your culture because these spots are
catering to non-asians that are like 50
and up if you're 50 and up in America
chances are you're probably white yeah
right so I'm saying that you know how
like all those old movies where they're
like my darling little egg fu young
little wtown strip or whatever you know
what I mean like where I'm saying that
those are all the words that they know
from their firmware update that they're
stuck on well yeah well now Americans
might know Mala it's MAA might know Mala
yeah cuz 30 and under yeah yeah yeah 30
and under but in the cities but anyways
guys uh let us know what you think in
the comments down below this is not the
most serious topic to be honest but I do
think that you there is a sense of
gatekeeping it's not to say gatekeeping
as in like other people can't
participate but labels have labels for a
reason and it's like dude inauthentic
authentic it could still be delicious it
could still go with your flavor palette
your tongue morsels or whatever yeah
sometimes once in a while I meet an
authentic Asian dish that I'm not the
biggest fan of and that I might even
prefer the Americanized version of with
a few dishes yeah yeah so that's not I'm
admitting that but I'm also saying like
hey you take orange chicken over changji
from Hunan which is not even that
popular I don't even know if I've had
that I had it it doesn't it doesn't have
a doesn't hit as hard it taste like
orange soda yeah yeah anyways I mean
obviously the sweetness hits you and the
insulin spikes and your taste buds go
crazy and it's Fried Chicken anyways
guys let us know in the comments down
below what you think oh last thing I
wanted to say if you guys want to try
some authentic Chinese food from a
province that tastes like American
Chinese food on a flavor palate wise
thing but a more elevated version try
some dong Bay food oh yeah dong Bay food
from northeastern China tastes like a
more advanced version of American
Chinese food from like a weird uh tongue
Zone level you saying the sweet and sour
pork chops like guaro and then if you've
ever had the Korean Chinese version of
it which is Tong suyuk it's like it's
kind of tastes like an Americanized
Chinese dish like it's very sweet syrupy
and it's fried pork the nomads like it
simple the nomads like it simple anyway
guys let us know what you think of the
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