The Truth About Cheap VS Expensive 3d Targets

the shooter Buck currently is like $106 where the Transformer is $289 is it worth [Music] it this is moral Transformer Buck it comes in three pieces and it also comes with rebar to stake it into the ground the base is not included that could be bought separately the reason it's the Transformer buck is cuz the head goes bye-bye and then this front piece pulls off and now you can take this wherever as a Target cuz as a matter of fact the foam on this is the exact same as the High Roller if you're unfamiliar with the High Roller foam I've got videos reviewing the High Roller I purchased the shooter buck and moral sent me the High Roller so I did not purchase this one this video is not sponsored and there's zero instruction for Morel they just gifted me the Target there are two sizes of the High Roller this is the big big one the small one here is the same width of this 3D Target on this side we have the heart and the lungs it shows the vitals on the other side it's more like a 3D Rings here the base does have this kind of tongue and groove but it is flat and very solid when you set it down and you'll notice this tongue and groove allows you to use the handle to pick up the entire deer on the shooter the antlers are removable and they're these hard plastic here these are not removable and it's a type of foam now this is deer is a very short Target as you can see about 29 in off the ground and the top of the antlers are about 4T this one here is a little bit taller maybe a little bit more realistic you could say as far as how high off the ground it is but on the Transformer the head is actually a realistic head this one actually has ears if you care about that sort of thing and if you're a hunter this rack is probably more realistic for you too maybe not you but me on the shooter we have this little removable foam fo piece in the center it is a pretty small area compared to the Transformer you can see how big this entire areas it is that's why it's a Transformer it is like a second completely different Target on both Targets this other foam is a harder foam it's a different type of foam it's not meant to be shot repeatedly over and over just a misfire can hit it on the Transformer it's a 10x 16 plus shooting area where on the other Target it's basically just the vital I must note these red eyes I think they're red because it's titled the Transformer at least I haven't seen a deer like that you may or may not like it I think it kind of looks a little weird the Transformer Buck can take any type of Arrow when you look at the box it should make you feel comfortable to shoot any bow any Arrow where this other one you definitely don't want to use broadheads on it we do have a stationary head here on Mr shooter on the Transformer we can rotate 360° like an owl the box says any bow any tip any speed and my experience with the High Roller foam that's going to be completely true the box also says it's easy Arrow removal on the other High Roller targets the arrow removal compared to all the targets on the market was not easy and they said they were working on that working on tweaking the formula a little bit last time I talked to them now we're going to test how difficult it is to pull the arrow from the target 42 the small high roller and this replaceable core cost about the same amount prices could vary but they're both around $100 to $130 generally which makes sense cuz they're almost the exact same Target except this one is connected to a deer and all of this darkness and wear on this High Roller is cuz I ran over it with my truck um that's not normal wear I was just kind of being a YouTuber is the marketing hype real a target with the strongest foam even strong enough for trucks to run over it as I review products I like to pick them as part as much as possible but I'm not picking them apart in the sense of good or bad I'm just trying to State the facts and then let you guys determine if it's a good or bad Factor like the targets being really short I say that I don't mean that as a bad thing or as a good thing it could be either or depending on how you perceive it or how you're going to use it for example a shorter heavier Target means it's going to be more stable and not move around more but you could say it's less realistic cuz it's shorter and heavier do you prefer it to be more realistic or do you prefer to me more stable I don't know the shooter boot comes in at 9 lb where the Transformer comes in at 25 lb next we're going to test Arrow penetration with a traditional bow and a compound [Music] [Laughter] bow with the traditional bow we got three and A4 with the compound bow four and 3/4 three and a qu no way yeah barely went in no way that's I think that's more dense than the highy roller to get a little bit of the user experience we've shot 50 shots into the target with a mix of the compound and traditional bow and there are two things that I don't like too much the first one is just how hard it is to pull the arrows out of this foam and to make it a little EAS you can use an arrow puller to pull arrows out of or even lubricate the arrows um you can get some of that gear at shatterproof archery that's my company the second thing I don't like about this target is the height I'm 63 with really long arms and it's not natural to bend over and pull this Arrow out to make it easy to pull the arrow from the target I need to get on like one knee here and start pulling like this when you get to the right height and grab an arrow puller it's not too bad it's if you're using rebar and mounting this outside you can leave it up a little higher which is nice another thing is you can mount it I already Mount all my targets up on a stand I'm blessed to have this Workshop but I don't have somewhere outdoors I can shoot like a field so if you have a field near your house you can shoot take that as a blessing cuz you have unlimited distance that's pretty cool I have a stand here and I'll be able to Mount The Deer up on the stand or build something for it so for me that it's super low isn't a major thing most deer targets are going to be really low 3D targets are going to be low but when I use the Transformer I'm definitely going to mount that up because the angle at which I have to pull arrows out is very uncomfortable I don't expect 3D targets to be this high off the ground unless it's a moose or an elk or a Standing Bear but you can see I have it two entire feet off the ground and now it's actually natural to pull arrows out so if you have a home range and can just build some sort of platform it does make it nice in my opinion and after testing the High Roller and this one the the foam really is the same on the inside here you can even see the red foam coming through it's just that they painted it with this brown shell this is uh 54 shots on this target uh and this is 500 shots and so you can see we try to aim in one specific area to wear out the target but it holds up really really good with 500 shots if you're spreading your shots out and coming from both sides it's going to last a long time so let's do a quick estimation of cost per Arrow this target held up to 43 31 shots before we had a complete pass through so if you divide the 431 by the cost of the target we're talking 23 cents per shot now you can replace that insert for like $35 and then get another 431 shots oh and by the way that's from one single location so you'll double or triple that amount of shots if you're not shooting from within 10 yards and basically if you're not a sniper you'll do better I was trying to wear it out as quick as possible whereas with the High Roller foam on any of these targets I would have to estimate because I haven't been able to shoot enough arrows through the target to pass all the way through my estimation is probably 1,500 shots in a 3-in circle will get you to pass all the way through so let's do the math on that and we're talking 19 cents a shot if that's the case where again you could get well more than 1500 shots if you're switching sides and changing your aiming location and if you're not perfect so cost per Arrow the more expensive Target is actually cheaper this might help understand what's going on here take a Honda Civic for example take the car body now you could put two different engines in there and have two completely different results of what the car can do and how fast it can go that's how these targets are looking pretty similar but the foam the foam is what makes these two Targets the most different that's where the price point can be hard to swallow but cost per Arrow it's actually cheaper on more expensive targets at least in in the 15 I tested now the downside to extra durability is generally that the difficulty of removing arrows goes way up but that's only in the initial stages of shooting after you shoot the same area for a while 100 to 250 shots it starts to loosen up that area and the arrow removal becomes easier the more the target gets worn down the words that come to mind when I think of the shooter Buck is cheap easy a removal small Target area medium durability and for the Transformer I just think of dense hard Arrow removal will last forever if you're going to shoot broadheads into it definitely this Target and really really short I have a playlist with like 15 Target reviews and a recap of all the targets if you want to check that out my favorite targets are the ones that stop arrows and both of these do that thanks for watching stay shatterproof and I'll see you on the next video