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OK, I guess that's right. Back, Charlie, that's right. Oh, that's so good. HE SCREAMS Back again. Come on, Ian, man, come on, man. MUSIC PLAYS Are we live? Of course we're live. People deluded are back again. I'm happy to bring you lot this video. I've got two special guests, two big Ajax fans. By now, when you see the video come out, click the link in the bio, people, and make sure you're taking in their YouTube content. How are you doing, lads, man? I hope you're well and safe, and thank you for tuning in with me, man. Oh, good, bud. Thanks for having us, man. Yeah, man, all good. Good, good, good. I've always wanted to ask, like, are you lot based in, I guess, the Netherlands, or, you know, I heard a British accent there, man, and the way he was talking in the DMs, I thought, are these English lads? I don't know, like, I was confused, but it don't matter, man. Well, I am from the Netherlands, but Ajax fans come from everywhere. So Luke lives in the UK. Yeah, man, Reading. Oh, you're not that far from London then, OK. What draws you lot to become Ajax fans? Where did you lot's story start in terms of supporting, you know, the Dutch giants? You start, Luke, because mine is a little bit... Yeah, mine's a bit of a silly story. So when I was younger, I had a Champions League PS1 game, and I couldn't change the team, so I always picked Ajax as the A, and then you can't watch the Eredivisie in this country, so it's been hard over the years to try and watch them, but you find more ways as you get older, but, yeah, that's how I started. And yourself? Yeah, for me, look at the grey hairs. I mean, I've been here a while. It's wisdom, man. I moved from Curaçao, from the island, in 91. I was already watching, I was eight, I was already watching, like, summaries of games on the island, you know, but I was always a fan of Ajax and the way they played, the possession game, the attacking. Back in the day, they had players like Bergkamp... Oh, come on, my guy. ...you know, Seedorf, Edgar Davids, players that came up, and, I mean, in 95, we had our Champions League win, so all that coming together, the best players playing with a young team, always being bold, that made me a fan of Ajax. Always loved to watch them. I mean, it's very difficult. I don't support Ajax, but it's very difficult not to have an admiration for, you know, your club, your establishment, the way you look at football, the players who have come through. I think definitely we're asked or concerned under Arsene Wenger, there's a lot of similarities and a lot of things to love about the club. Don't want to take the smile off you boys' faces, but last time I looked at the league table, you lot are fifth. What's going on with Ajax this current season, man? Don't be shy, let us have it, man. Yeah, it's poor choice of managers over the last couple of seasons. I think there's a lot of incomings and outgoings in terms of the supervisory board, the people who run the club, essentially. And I think we've not been able to settle with anyone really since Overmars left and Ten Hag left. So it's been a bit of choppy, changey, people coming, people going, and just a poor selection of technical director and a manager so far this season. So obviously, you know about Sven Mislintat from his time at Arsenal. He came over and they put their faith in him and he decided to try and pick a manager in Maurice Stein who overachieved with Sparta Rotterdam and then decided to give him a chance and ultimately didn't work out for either of them. Facts, facts. What have you got to add to that? Well, what I have to add, it started all with Marc Overmars, to be honest. When he left, he was our sporting director. Everything was going well. Him and Erik Ten Hag and Van der Sar were really a good team together. When he left, our board, let's say, made wrong decisions, I would say. They left the club without a sporting director for a year and a half. And when the sporting director came, they gave him full control. No CEO at the club. No one to, you know, to have a debate with or understand. Exactly, and they gave him free reign and this is the second season. We're struggling a lot and you have to understand at Ajax, our best players always leave, right? So not having a sporting director is very, for a year and a half, this is really silly if you think about it. If you have to rebuild every season, selling your best players, you need somebody also that's constantly looking at the market, at the newest talents coming up, etc. And we didn't have that. I mean, Van der Sar going as a CEO, trying to also take the sporting director role, you know, that was too much for him. He made also a lot of bad decisions. So actually he was struggling with two seasons of just terrible transfer windows. That sounds poor to hear, man. And I definitely was getting a bit of PTSD as an Arsenal fan. We've definitely been there. Do you lot have faith that, you know, you'll be able to turn it around or the directors will put people in the right position so that you lot can get back to glory days? Yeah, man. I think they're already in the process of doing it. They started bringing, like Van Gaal came in, somewhere in the supervisory board. I think they've either done it or they are planning to bring Danny Vind back, you know, so they're bringing personnel back that are of Ajax, you know, former players, former managers or people that know the Ajax way. John van Schick is the new manager. Well, I'll say new manager. He's the current manager at the moment. That took over from Stein. So he's a former Ajax player, you know, so they're trying to bring back the Ajax identity within the personnel and staff around the club. I hear that. I hear that. And yourself? Same. I mean, the biggest part of it was bringing back Louis Van Gaal. I mean, that's a big name to restructure Ajax, give its philosophy back, its Ajax DNA back. And yeah, that's a good start. But our CEO starts in March because we took the CEO over from AZ. So for most Ajax fans, I think they see when the CEO starts, that will be bringing the new beginnings for Ajax. Everybody looking in the same direction and, you know, bringing back Ajax to the glory days and the type of players we want. I mean, as an Arsenal fan, obviously we've gone out the League Cup, we've gone out the FA Cup, Champions League and the Premier League. We're still in it, but it's a pipe dream. That's the only way we can kind of salvage our season. So like with you lot being fearful, I'm unclear where you lot are in the Cups, if you're still in the League Cups. How do you lot salvage your season or somehow put a smile on your fans' face come the end of the year? Papi, you can take this one, man. Just trusting the process, trusting that we have certain players in our team that have the capabilities of playing the Ajax way. You know, the restructuring Ajax is doing, understanding they made mistakes, the CEO coming in, all this is bringing us a little bit of hope for next season. Also, we were 17th, I think, in the League at certain point with Stijn as a coach. Crazy for Ajax, man. Exactly. And we even lost from amateur team in the Dutch Cup. So really, it was crazy, to be honest, the last couple of weeks. But it's going the right direction. John van der Schip is handling it much better. The same group, we're seeing progression, we're seeing growth. Every week, they're playing a little bit better. So that's where our hope, our joy comes from. But as Ajax fans, we always know that we always come back to a rebuilding stage. It might take three years, four years, five years, but that's at least the goal, to compete in the Champions League. That's the goal always, to compete in the Champions League and show what kind of football we bring. I hear that. That's a good point, really and truly. How did both of you, because obviously, you're Ajax fans, so indirectly, you're fans of the Dutch League. A bit of two questions in one. Where do you think the Dutch League ranks in terms of the other leagues? Because I do think as Premier League fans, we can kind of be quite snooty, and people say things like a Farmers League and all these things, whether it be about Holland or about France. But then when it comes to transfer season, everybody's an expert on players in these countries and they want these players in these countries. How do you lot feel about how Dutch football is kind of portrayed to the outer world? And also, what do you lot think about the future of Dutch football? Because there seems to be quite a few young players coming on the scene and things like that. Arsenal obviously got Timber. A number of them have been bought to other clubs as well from Ajax. It's quite interesting because the reality is the Premier League is the strongest league in the world. And then it's followed by La Liga and Bundesliga naturally because of the clubs there. So sadly, the Eredivisie looks at it as like a smaller league. Like you said, people can look at it jokingly as a Farmers League or so. But the reality is they produce a lot of good young players. But a lot of them also come from Iceland. There's a player called Helinsen at Ajax who's come from young Ajax. And it's just coming to the first team. And he is Icelandic, I believe. And then you have players like Kudu who have come from Northern Ireland and Denmark. And then they've gone on to the Premier League and they managed to get their move. So whilst not every single player is being brought through the young academies and things like that, but also it's a good foundation for players trying to make their step up from Norway, from Denmark and things because the level is not that high where they're going to struggle. But it's better than the countries that they're coming from. So it's a good platform. But at the same time, I look at leagues like the Bundesliga and I don't really see many players coming through there. Dortmund do a great job of buying players, producing them and playing them and then selling them. But you don't really see many amazing Germans, for example, come through. They have to do a lot of buying. And maybe that's why the Liga has three teams at the top always, mainly. So you look at Eredivisie and it can go one way and the other usually. Like Ajax have had their upside down season. And the teams that have tried to capitalise on that and maybe make their way up the table. So, you know, there are pros and cons with the Liga, in my opinion. I think you're banging on the money, man. Have you got anything to add to that? Yeah, I just want to make you understand what the Eredivisie stands for. We don't have many players that play in their prime anymore in the Eredivisie. It's basically youth development or we have older players that are finishing their career in the Eredivisie. But, I mean, look at what's happening at Ajax. Everything at 22 or younger is already being bought by the Premier League. So the money changed the whole football world, so to say. Premier League can spend so much more than other leagues that we're not holding on to the best players anymore until they're like 24, 25 and they're having them in their prime. No, in their prime, they're already in a different league. But if you consider how many players that came through the Ajax youth and played in a very high level, like we're talking Eriksen, Vertonghen, Zlatan, Suarez. I mean, all these players had their place at the Eredivisie. So, you know, there's a lot of quality that comes through it. But, you know, at such a young age, you cannot expect too much from them. You touched on it there, yeah. And obviously, I love youth football. And I think in today's day and age, if a young player plays great for 10 minutes, he needs to be bought for 100 million and he's kind of stockpiled at bigger clubs. You kind of mentioned it with players not kind of staying to their peak. Now, obviously, money talks. You know, Premier League are littered with money. I can't begrudge PSV, Ajax or anyone when they're flashing this cash at a young player and selling them and whatnot. But how do you lot feel about that? Do you think there's something to be said in terms of stability, getting 50, 100 appearances? I'm not going to quite say there is an expectation or pressure playing for Ajax. But I do think, you know, we're going to get on to Mr. Hattoff, if I can pronounce his name correctly. He's 17, already being linked with Arsenal. Do you think there's something worth in, you know, staying at a club like Ajax, developing without the pressure of the world, kind of learning your craft, getting experience and then potentially moving on? Yeah, this is the thing with some players like Gravenberg, for example, he, in my opinion, left maybe a year too early. But when Bayern Munich come and knock on your door, you know, it's a chance to make more money, a chance to go improve yourself in a bigger team, on the bigger stage. Absolutely, I wish that all the big players like Frenkie and that was able to stay longer, you know, but unfortunately, people like Frenkie, like Timba, their time does come where they're ready to make that jump. And actually, Timba was one of the ones who stayed an extra year, maybe than he should have, but, you know, in different people's opinions, you know, so, you know, you want them to stay and play Champions League football, for example, on the big stage with Ajax, because one, it helps our team, obviously, we have to think about that. But at the same time, it does allow them to play without pressure to an extent because Ajax are never a team in the last 10, 15 years that are expected to win the Champions League. That 18, 19 team was just a freak team where things were going in the right way for us, you know, but ultimately, never expected to get that far and we never have been really since. So, you know, it allows a platform for these players to perform at the highest level without the pressure so they can work on their own game, get used to it and then ultimately make that move elsewhere, in my opinion. That's a great point, man. What have you got to add on that? Yeah, I mean, the Premier League, look, the Premier League is a different beast and we've seen that with Anthony, right? He was good in the Eredivisie and most of us said not ready for the Premier League and he went to the Premier League and we see it. You know, he's the kind of player that if you come into a structured team he might have a better chance but in a struggling team and you're expecting a young player, a winger that plays a little bit further from the goal than he's used to at Ajax to create and to assist and create goals, etc. It's maybe too much pressure for these youngsters immediately to get there, you know? They have to adjust to the league. If we consider, for instance, Virgil van Dijk played at Southampton for a while before he even made a step to Liverpool and Ake at City also played at Southampton also? Bournemouth, sorry. Played at Bournemouth for a while and before going to City. So all these players had time before they went to the biggest club in the Premier League and I think if you make the step from the area to VZ you need a year, you need a season to get up to par especially at the age. Look, if you go into your peak like Zeesh or something like that fine. Then you should immediately show your skills and you should be there but youngsters I think you need to have a little bit more patience with. Did you not think Anthony would struggle this much though, for example because he looked like a really big star at Ajax obviously the quality is still there but you'd be scratching your head for a good game he played for Man United really and truly. Did you both think he would struggle after leaving Ajax this much at Manchester United? If you did, do you think it's more psychological or do you think it's just his development in line with his decision making and all that sort of stuff? For me, Anthony was never a Premier League winger in a sense for me anyway. He's got a great I think five-yard burst but he never really had the pace to be able to be a Premier League winger. I'm hoping you look at the likes of Saka Martinelli players like that who are able to have really good sprint speed as well as acceleration and Anthony was usually a beater man in a way where he'll make you go one way or cut inside and he'll shoot and he'll try to cross or shoot. When we had Helaire most of his crosses were cut inside across to Helaire he would head it in in that Champions League season when we beat Dortmund for example. So it works to an extent. I think at Man United there's so many more issues there that it doesn't just come down to Anthony it comes down to he's not gelling with the team the whole team's not gelling and it's just one whole big catastrophe as opposed to just Anthony but at the same time you expect more from how much they spent for him. I think you're right on that man. Because you mentioned Manchester United I can never say his name is it Van der Veen? Is it Van der Veen? The central midfielder? Van der Beek? Yeah, yeah. I can never pronounce his name it's quite horrible but he was quite good and he's another one that's kind of struggled it's like I genuinely forget he's at Manchester United did you not think that would happen to him? Yes, I would. I thought it wasn't the yeah, it wasn't the right decision for him. Look, Donny van der Beek is kind of the type of player like Klaassen I don't know if you know how Klaassen plays but he's more dangerous when as a 10 he can come into the box and create an extra person in the box and finish. Late man runs. Exactly. And the time that Donny van der Beek went there I'm not completely sure but I think Ole Solskjaer was the coach back then and they were playing a very counter-attack oriented style which doesn't suit Donny. So from that moment I was like okay, this is a wrong decision from your side I hope you're gonna get chances. I hoped when Ten Hag came that he would get more chances because he wants to play a little bit more attacking a little bit further off his goal but even then I think the injury ruined it for him maybe he's not the same player anymore I mean we haven't seen much of him after his injuries but I already thought that that would be a very difficult move for him to make his worth while at United. Are you not surprised how Ten Hag is not really getting the best or anything out of Anthony and obviously Van as well because they were two players in terms of him being Dutch you should know what they're about I think Anthony I can't be sure on the other one but Anthony was a former player of his and they're both kind of struggling as Luke said you know United there's a lot more issues than just the players United quite frankly is a mess right now but are you two both surprised by how it's gone for both of them under someone like Ten Hag it should have been a breath of fresh air really when he came in the door for both those players. It's quite difficult because when Ten Hag was at Ajax especially in that 18-19 season he was blessed with the players he had you can't get another Franky de Jong you can't get another De Ligt you know what Franky de Jong does from picking the ball up from the defensive line to then bringing it so high what he does with Barcelona you don't find anywhere else it's why Man Utd wanted him so much right so they have to make do with what they can get and ultimately they chose Mount using you know whatever you say about Mount he's not Franky de Jong right so the expectations are always going to be high and unfortunately I don't think he was ever going to meet them at Man Utd you know I know it's easy to say in hindsight but with the problems they had with their owners and you know the CEO stuff and the imbalance in their squad the Greenwood stuff happening at the same time Rashford not on form it was I think just loads of stuff and I think it ultimately he's coping well enough to still be in the job but can it get better for him I don't know he needs a lot of help from the club Are you kind of shocked then both of you with like his philosophy because I can't it feels again I'm no Ten Hag fan I don't know him religiously like that but just from looking at how he kind of played football at Ajax now I get it you have to adapt to clubs but it does feel like he's quote unquote going against his principles and if he was to leave tomorrow yeah he's won the League Cup but I wouldn't quite be able to put my finger on what his identity at Manchester United has kind of gone to so like what would you two put it down as a problem for him has he gone against his principles is it just too much as Luke's alluded to with all the other stuff being a Manchester United manager or I'm not sure man yeah can I answer that I think look let's start with the most important thing Martinez getting injured is not going to help anyone because he was the leader in the back and I think that was one of his best signings to be honest I think in his first season he did great people tend to forget how in shambles the team of United was before he came there he had to really adjust it completely and not playing the Ten Hag way yeah he still has to deal with the likes of Rashford Sancho what's his name Harry Maguire is still there yeah the Ronaldo stuff as well Ronaldo stuff exactly it's like he's he's managing a kindergarten that actually that's what I it's not a top it is it's not a professional club to be doing this I mean if every week I'm reading the training is too hard and the training is too of the same everybody got the money but the first players that would start doing saying these stuff I would sell them I mean and that's exactly what he has to do I feel like he's first of all these owners put a hold into the growth by wanting to sell United I thought that was a really bad move they didn't have money so they went for a loan deal for Wout Weghorst which I don't think is United level whatsoever so you know it's a combination of what the trainer wants and the club and I feel like that is not in sync yet he's trying to make the best of what he has but he's playing still a counter attack based way to suit the likes of maybe Martial maybe Rashford but it's not the way he wants to play and for him to change the way he wants to play he has to change certain things in the midfield and on and Rashford and Martial it's interesting because I must admit I did think Ten Hag would fare a lot better at Man United regardless of the kind of variables that he can't control so it is interesting you lot obviously spending the best part of a season or two seeing him kind of reflect that really and truly I kind of want to jump a bit back because you lot spoke about the Ajax team who reached the latter stages of the Champions League like how good was that team and are you surprised why all of them it's fair to say they're all at high levels but they've all kind of struggled the De Ligt's the De Jong's I know he's not Dutch but the Ziyech's they've all kind of struggled like what's you lot's thoughts on the aftermath after that Champions League run really yeah yeah sure I mean look I can only talk about specific people if you talk about like for instance Ziyech he goes to Chelsea plays under Tuchel after a couple of months I think Lampard was sacked back then was it Lampard that was the coach I think yeah I thought Tuchel yeah yeah and then Tuchel came in that's not the way Ziyech likes to play that's not you know he likes to play a lot of press forward a lot of running but that's not the Ajax way that's not the Ziyech way so I thought he wasn't using him to his fullest potential from the bank we already discussed Frankie De Jong goes to Barcelona that's a huge club but they're in shambles financially so he's also not but it's still a great world-class player in my perspective would love him at Arsenal and I think you also mentioned De Ligt but De Ligt went to Juventus not really his style of playing more defensively I think at Bayern he should be getting more chances but again he has two other world-class defenders he has to deal with Papakano and one more I forgot the name so struggling as well yeah who's the other one playing in the ball Kim Min Jae I think great save yeah he just signed for them in the summer exactly so he has to deal with two other top contenders world-class defenders for that position so I don't think Frankie and De Ligt really made any mistakes Ziyech on the other hand that was a 50-50 he didn't know he was going to get a coach van de Meek in my opinion made a really bad decision what other players were there back then I mean the rest was yeah Mazraoui yeah yeah Mazraoui went to Bayern I mean the combination of all these players it just worked out and it wasn't only that it was players that seasoned at Ajax for a while you know you had Tadi Cemplin that came in we bought them so we had a young team and these types were coming in to add extra quality but also experienced leadership on the pitch etc so that was already great and when we talk about the midfield we had Schöne Klaassen also experienced players at Ajax and we all know I mean they were already a little bit older but Schöne had a great free kick he was really a specialist we saw the goal against Real Madrid so it all came together for Ten Hag in that specific season the only thing you could say when Ten Hag started at Ajax he didn't have Thierry Fico he brought him that was his first signing actually and now that turned out to be a lot of Grinta a lot of power great defender and that worked out pretty nice but the rest of the team that was already there that was already gelled that was already understood each other on a different level after seasons and seasons of playing with each other so that's what helped Ajax I mean I'm quite jealous because regardless once Ajax sell these players it's kind of not you lot's problem you lot make great money on the individuals you wish them all the best and keep it moving I know he technically didn't play for Ajax but obviously you lot watched Dutch football I've also been linked with Xavi Simmonds what do you lot make of him how big of a player do you think he could be are you surprised he's not really had a real look in that PSG league yeah man whenever I've seen him play he's electric he's always on the score sheet well when he was at PSG he was always on the score sheet and it really annoyed me and I'm sure it annoyed Papi and other people just always popping up with goals whether it's last minute first minute all the time and now he's doing it again in Germany I think PSG have pulled a move where they need a buyback clause and they can get a lot of money from him if they don't want to use him and I think they're spoiled for choice with that to be honest because who wouldn't want to play for PSG with the money that they can offer you right but at the same time it does show that he can go and play anywhere because he's doing it in Germany he can do it in the Eredivisie and maybe the next step up for him is the Premier League but he's showing he's very composed eye for a pass can finish very explosive with his pace and he's just showing he's very smart so whoever manages to get him if it's Arsenal or PSG they've got a top player on their hands I think you're bang on the money P have you got anything to add to that well I know I know Arsenal plays with two number 10s right it's one pivot I wouldn't quite describe Havertz as a 10 because he ain't really my sort of 10 but you're right but you have Odegaard and Rice that play a little bit more up front and then you have I think you've got them two pressing high typically two of the three of the midfield will press high into the other field and then you have one kind of holding so you're right and Xavi would be a substitute for one of those two probably because I don't see Xavi as someone that sits on the bench he's going to be your starting 11 because he has a lot of movement his finishing is great always on his front feet yeah he's dangerous so it would put Arsenal on a different level I think he would be great in the left eight he's left footed is he I think he's left footed no exactly but you know covering a little bit of Arsenal I think that with Declan Rice you know he could offer a good competition as a left eight because I feel like Declan Rice as a six doesn't really work with the progressive passes kind of thing Thomas Partage could play better with progressive passes so he can receive the ball a lot more and be more dangerous at the edge of the box that's more of his game more like a ten rather than an eight I like Simmonds it's easy for me to like Spanish and Dutch players and technical footballers because I'm a Venga baby in my 28 years that was all I ever knew really and truly so I like him I think last season we played PSV twice in the Europa League fell in love with the player went to the Emirates all right cool because sometimes these especially these young players they look good on YouTube he's kind of it's a bit weird but people have kind of known about him from 12-13 so it's lovely to see the talent matches up and his ability to play out wide in this day and age I agree with you I think his future is centrally but you do need to kind of play in a couple of roles he also ties into our young system but unfortunately it probably comes down to money and you know PSG don't exactly need cash they won't exactly make it easy for Arsenal so I have to take it from there what do you lot make of I can't pronounce his name is it Brobley or something like that I'll be honest yeah you saved me I'll be honest I don't think he's that good he's linked with United you lot are allowed to have him but you lot watch him maybe you lot can change my opinions or maybe I'm being a bit harsh and an ignorant English follower of football really we've been linked with him so what would you lot make of him I love him I'll let Papi do it but I love him you take it away us fans want to hear it look beginning of the season everybody was talking about his efficiency he wasn't scoring the chances he needed to score but he elevated his level mid season it looks like he's stronger his combination with his back towards the goal he can link up play he can turn away from his defender his scoring is much better he is strong like Lukaku strong I'm talking about and he has the pace to to deal with the Premier League level I would say so give it another season and I think he would be the best striker in the Eredivisie and could he be the best in the Premier League yes I think so big praise man you know what you're convincing me I know technically he's Dutch but he didn't really get a sniff of real first team football like that in Dutch football because he left early and I can't pronounce his name but is it Joshua Xerxes another one we've been linked to what do you lot think of him and his progress in Italy as well I haven't followed him so much but I know that he's doing great so Luke I can't say much about him same thing I can't say much I don't follow him that much mine my last two questions go on I'll cut you off no no no I know he did great in Belgium and then he went to Italy right so he's in Bologna now yeah exactly and I saw one goal from him that was fantastic like a lot of technique control so he does have the basic capabilities but I haven't watched too much of him to determine if he's sorry just one thing about Brodby that I just want to put he's a proper proper target man so many chances get made for Ajax where he's in the opponent's box pushing the centre back right down to their goalkeeper next to their goalkeeper he'll hold it and he'll lay off a pass to someone in the box by the penalty spot or so and have a shot you know he can score with his left score with his right you know we have these things so last season I was really high on him and I thought he could improve and then the start of the season he didn't do that great new manager and things and then this season I criticised him on one of our streams at the start and then suddenly he scored loads of goals but you know we always questioned his attack in prowess his intelligence to make a run or where to run because there were times against PSV I think in the Becker final he had three chances he hit the post on one I think and he had a couple of chances I believe I'm correct aren't I he had a few chances and he scored three or so and he didn't and it's like you know that composure we were questioning it but this season he showed he can lead the line hold the ball up win headers he scored quite a few headers this season as well if I had to compare him to someone like him I'd say he's a bit of a harsh one because strikers do take a while there's been many strikers that I haven't necessarily rated they've gone on through the ages and developed and become great talent I guess based on young and old because we need a forward so I don't know if there's any credible links but if we are doing our homework you'd imagine we're scouting people I've got two questions for you lot because I wanted to save the best till last where Arsenal's concerned what do you lot make of Timba how good do you think he can be and like take me back to the summer what was your thoughts when he moved to Arsenal was it a match made in heaven do you think it was a year too late do you think it was a long time coming what's your thoughts on everything Timba it was a match made in heaven in my opinion for me he's never been centre back centre back in your head you think centre back six foot two for me he suits the role of playing a left back or right back come inside bring the ball out of the fence play progressive passes to people's feet but also very agile but also strong can hold the ball he was a bit more flary bringing the ball out and they were both able to play these passes so quickly or precisely so to go to Arsenal it looked like if you didn't know what was going to happen you could say he was an Arsenal player especially the way I had Tom Yasu playing and how he tried to get Tierney to play before he moved so he was the player he needed for me . I only see him as a CB but that's my way of looking at things my favorite backs are Roberto Carlos and Cafu so you might understand what I expect from a back right so he's a little bit different but I think when I saw him play at Arsenal the first couple of games he was so composed his passing was simple but so accurate so good so composed I like everything about him he's from the same island as I am so heart not love right and look I could even see him he's yeah you can put him in CB I can even see him as a six to be honest but next Saliba is left right Gabriel left okay so he would I even see him as a CB so even next to Gabriel that's already a little bit stronger in the headers and the physical thing I think he could be a good duo so you actually bought somebody that can play on multiple positions and he has the physical ability to stand his own against anyone in the Premier League so yeah I'm a big fan of him I'm very happy that he went to Arsenal because Arsenal is my second team after Ajax also from the Wenger I mean I grew up with Wenger hard not to love Arsenal I mean there's so much to like about him I actually like his temperament he's not overruled or anything regardless of the occasion I think he stood up to be counted in our community against City it's very unfortunate what happened to him in his first game and I think that put a spanner in our works because as much as I like his temperament he's not overruled or anything regardless I think that put a spanner in our works because as much as I like his temperament he's not overruled or anything regardless of the occasion think that spanner in our because as much as I like his regardless I think that put a spanner in our works as much as I like his temperament he's not that put a spanner in our works because as much like his temperament he's not overruled or anything regardless of the think that put a spanner in our works because as much as I like his temperament he's not overruled or anything regardless think that put a spanner in our works because as much as I like his temperament he's not overruled or anything regardless of the thing that put a spanner works as much like his temperament he's not of the as much as I like his temperament he's not or anything regardless as much like his temperament he's not overruled or anything regardless of the thing that put a spanner in our works because as much as I like his temperament he's not overruled that spanner or anything regardless of the thing that put a spanner in our works because as much as I like his temperament he's not overruled or anything regardless of the put a spanner in our works because as much as I like his he's not overruled or anything regardless as much like his temperament he's not overruled or anything that put a spanner in our as much like his temperament he's not overruled or anything that put a in our works because as much as I like his temperament he's not regardless of the because or anything of the thing works regardless as much as I like his temperament he's not overruled regardless of the thing that or anything that put a spanner overruled or anything regardless of the thing that he's not overruled or anything that put a spanner in our because as much as I like his temperament he's not overruled regardless of the thing that put a spanner in our works because as much he's not overruled regardless of the thing spanner in our because as much like his temperament he's not overruled thing works because as much as I like his temperament he's not overruled regardless of the thing that as much as I temperament he's not overruled regardless of the put a spanner in our works because as much as I