EVERYTHING You Need To Know To Become A GREAT Putter

If the shaft was at right angles to the ground, there would be no natural arm. A nice little drill I've always done is I get my players to actually take their hand off and just apply pressure there and what you'll see is the wrist creases don't. Jack Nicklaus right here. We've seen Brian E. Baird right here. We've seen multiple different, you know, people square people slightly open like Tiger. You can look down the line, right? So if it's a little bit here, I'm not gonna freak out about it. This is the most important thing. 40 to 42 percent of our total score right here on the putting green alone and it's been, I consider my, when I look back on my junior career and look back on my career, you know, that was all fun and games over there, but the reason why it was the player I was was because of what you did for me here. You know, the interesting thing is that sometimes people ask me about amateurs and not everybody, but for most people, the lowest hanging fruit in their score is for sure putting. Some people come and they say, you know, I put pretty well. I want to work on my golf swing. I drive, I slice it, blah, blah, blah. And then, you know, let's qualify your putting. And then they'll start thinking about it and like, well, I have two putt, you know, pretty much most of the time. And I'm like, well, do you three putt? Yeah, I three putt. Well, how many times do you average a three putt? I'm probably three or four. I'm like, yeah, okay. So you're averaging 38 putts around. Your putting's horrible. Yes. And they're like, like, oh, I didn't realize that, right? They just don't realize it. It doesn't hurt as much maybe as a ball going out of bounds, but it's still a shot. A lot of people could drop to me on average three to four shots around, maybe five if they were better putters. It's the lowest hanging fruit because it's easy. It's hard to change a golf swing, right? And in green golf swing, it's hard to learn a golf ball. But putting is easy to learn. Anybody can learn to putt the way I look at it. So with that being said, what would you say is the number one, you know, mishap when it comes to what comes to putting for amateur golfers? The biggest problem to me is most people accommodate themselves to the putter instead of learning the right setup. Because as we talked about over there, you know, the setup is everything. And if you set up, set up, set up, if you set up poorly to a putt, your mechanics are going to be bad. And the problem with a bad setup in a putting stroke, that's not mechanically sound because the setup, you have very little time to recover. In a golf swing, you have some time to recover, right? If this putter is not pointed where it should point in the backstroke, well, I don't have, I have very little time to recover. Like a lot of times the yips are just because the brain knows I'm out of position. I got to try to get in position. A lot of times I tell people, look it, I want you to think during the setup so that you don't have to think during the stroke. I want your mind clear. So you're able to get into that target and keep your mind. That's where it belongs. It doesn't belong on looking at this putter outside, inside, release the toe. Sometimes you hear him say, oh, look how he's releasing the toe of the putter. I'm like, he's not thinking about that. He's not thinking about that. Right? It's just a result of doing the right thing in the back. So like you said, you know, I use this phrase, rotate, tuck and tilt. And that's basically for most people, they have to have some rotation just to get neutral. Now I need very little because my arms basically are there. But David Duvall, he'd have a lot, right? But you want to get to where your right palm in the back of your left hand is facing the target. That's the sideways pull push, right? So I'm going to rotate enough to get my palms in neutral. I'm going to tuck. Now, when I say tuck, I don't want someone jammed up. And I don't want them tight. I want everything relaxed in the upper body. You know, I like when you said Tiger likes to putt from his upper back. I'm a big believer in that. Like, I actually feel that. And we'll talk about feels in a minute. But basically, you know, I want to feel like as I move, my elbows are kind of sliding and they're free, but they're not out here where it's like I have no control and they're not jammed up. So once again, guys, this is really important. We talked about this earlier, the connecting points. And Todd had a great understanding of helping you, the inner bicep, like a plug, right? And here's where the outlet is. It's not on the sides where the seams of the shirt are. And what we both have seen over the years, when people get here, the elbows are trapped and they get handsy. OK, you're not going to be narrow like this in front of your body like this. It doesn't make sense. But here's what we're going to do. The midpoints, again, to the seam on the shirt and the center of your body, that's where the plug and the outlet are right there. So there's almost, I almost feel like the armpits connected in the golf swing. And then I'll say that the bicep is connected in the putting, right? So the elbows are kind of, they're free to pass underneath me as I tilt forward. You know, I've got a ball in my right hand. I can go to the target without moving my center. You know, I always say when someone's stuck and you can get stuck a couple of ways. We'll talk about this later in the setup. But, you know, your hips are behind you. Anytime your hips are behind you, your shoulder joint is behind you. Now you're stuck. The other way you get stuck is to have your elbows up, right? Whenever someone's stuck, there's three options. Either use your hands, flip it, right? Hang back or open up. Something's got to give you the freedom to keep it moving forward. Well, let's talk about the three major points. I would say four major points in this setup. OK. All right. The first one, I talk about face twist, right? Face twist is simply where do I apply pressure on the grip? So if a person applies pressure on the top of the grip, the clubface will close. If a person applies pressure on the bottom of the grip, the clubface will open. So I don't want to apply pressure on the top or the bottom during the motion of the putter. I always want pressure to be applied to the sides of the grip. That's why, frankly, a lot of players that are doing well with the claw, reason why is because they had too much pressure on top of the grip. And so they get a lot of closure. And of course, if you get closure, then your body fights it and it opens up. Face twist. So the key with the grip is finding a grip, whether or not you, you know, I have a reverse overlap, right, where I'm overlapping my pinky and my forefinger. But if you look at my palms, my palms are neutral to each other. They're lined up with each other. I don't have one palm higher than the other. All right. Whether someone's left hand low or reverse overlap or all fingers or claw, those whatever grip allows you to keep pressure on the side of the grip during the motion of the stroke and be relaxed, then you're getting rid of face twist. What Todd said. I love it. It's almost like you're praying, right? You're trying to find a grip that can keep the sideways pressure. And you can see I'm right hand low conventional, but I definitely keep the sideways pressure. Now, if I were to take my right hand off, you know, I really have the putter, a direct extension of my forearms as a result of not having a grip below my heel pad. When I first started working with Todd, this was my grip and I had it like this. And I had, you know, a lot, a lot of movement to the stroke. And it was really a lot of twist to it. Right. So I really worked it more up in the lifeline. I never could get it all the way in the lifeline for me. But he didn't need it there. He was always okay with me being at the bottom of my forearm there on my heel pad. And that's where I was happy with it. I have this arm in a position that you've always helped me with and my grip in a spot to where I feel like my palm is matching that putter face. Wherever that face is going. So is my hand, right? They're one in the same. Now, what I did was this was a stabilizing force to my stroke. I had a lot of pressure putts at a young age that went in as a result of having a connecting point here that really I felt controlled the path of my stroke. And what it also did is it controlled the face. And I always know that you said, regardless, like Billy Mayfair, Isaiah Waiheke, right? Right. Connected, but in front. You know, you weren't, you weren't connected back here. You were connected. So I felt connection here, but I could, I could get to the target. And like you said, the face of your putter is the same as right palm. And bottom line is my right palm is where I want the ball to start. I'm going to roll some good putts. Yeah. One thing that's important to understand you guys about the way the putter works in general too, is here's the thing. If I open this putter up and I stroke towards you, the ball's going to go in the direction the face is pointed. If I have a wedge with loft and I swing in the direction of you, it's not going to go where the leading edge is pointed unless it hits the leading edge. It's going to ride up the face and go in the direction that you're swinging. So it's really important to understand that. That kind of can explain why long irons that are a little flatter faces can get offline a little bit quicker, right? But the big thing about putting is that's a huge point Todd helped me with at a young age that more so than even the path of the stroke, you help me control the face. And when I had control of the face, I had control of my starting line. And you look at Billy Mayfair as an example, the stroke would go like this. But yet you'd watch the ball roll end over end towards his target. And you're like, whoa, how does that happen? Incredible control of the face. So really it's important to find a grip that gives you control of the face. Now, you know, this has always been my grip right here. You know, I have my index finger over overlapping my hand. I have my right hand really on the putter. I always, I don't putt well when I get it off the putter. I like my right hand really being on the putter and having the middle of my palm being there. And I just put my left underneath it. But for me, I've always felt like my right hand was very much in control of the face. And for me personally, I tighten my core and I let my arms be soft. And I really feel like the middle of my body hits my putt. That's just me personally. I've heard facts and say some of the same things. Todd and Tiger, both a little bit more from the upper back. Now, I also feel that if I think about it. That's about the only time my name is going to be mentioned. But let me tell you, you know, I will tell you this. I don't believe there's a player in the world. When I used to watch him teach putting, I always felt, man, if every player just ran through here for just 15 minutes, just to have Todd run through the setup with them. I just don't believe one person on the planet would regress as a result. They all would improve. And that's why I'm excited to have you guys all here listening to this. You've heard these things from me. But it's nice to hear Todd talk about that. A couple things that are great already. Pressure on top, gonna close it. Pressure underneath, gonna open it. And that could answer a lot of people's questions already as to how they're gripping it. Oh man, that's why mine does that. Or man, that's why I do that. But yeah, really working on getting that like you're praying here. Whether it's cross-handed, whether it's conventional, or whether it's the claw. You're looking to have that sideways pressure on the grip. Let's get the face stable because the bottom line is whatever the hands do, the body's probably going to do the opposite. So if someone's closing the face because of their grip, their body is going to fight that. And all of a sudden, they have opposing forces. They don't have flow, right? Flow is when I don't have to stop anything from moving. I can just let it go and I'm not fighting anything. But if I have closure, well, I'm probably going to have my body fighting it. Just like in the golf swing. I'm always trying to get everything working together. So let's go back. There's four major points in the setup that I think are critical. We already talked about face twist. One of the things I look at is that when someone sets up, this will rotate, tuck, and tilt works. So I rotate my elbows in. This is the point. My elbows have to be bent. So when I bend my elbows and I kind of let them sit on the front of my ribcage in the corner, now the putter shaft and my arms create a straight line. So that basically, I've got the shaft of my putter and my arms in a straight line. What I don't want, I don't want to be up here like I would in the golf swing. Why? Because in the golf swing, I'm setting a lever, right? There is no leverage in putting, right? So we want the grip more in the palms and the shaft in alignment with the forearms. The bend is at the elbows. Now, here's what's critical. As I bend forward from my hip joint, as we've talked about all through the golf swing, as I bend forward from the hip joint, right, and I tilt forward, I got to maintain that position. I'll see a lot of players, they might start here, but then as they let the putter down on the ground, they drop it. And so they're not bending at the hips. They come off, right? So stay connected, right? And tilt forward until the putter hits the ground. Now that is contingent on the right length putter. If I have the wrong length putter, that won't work, right? If I'm here and I have a putter that's too long for me and I go to bend forward, it hits the ground too soon. Well, now I can't bend enough. And the eyes are right here, you know? My eyes are way inside. So like I said, three things, distance from the ball, connection, or forward tilt. If you have the putter that's right length, the putter is actually part of the setup. It allows you to set up properly every time. If you have a putter that's the wrong length, you will not set up correctly. Absolutely. You can't do it. Simple as that. It's just mathematics. All right. Now, next point, when I have a putter that's fit to me properly and I tilt forward, the other thing that happens when I tilt forward is now my eyes come to rest on the inside edge of the ball. Now, I know there's different schools of thought out there. I'm a common sense guy. So I'm like, look it, if I'm shooting a rifle, I'm going to have my eyes on the rifle sight. It doesn't make sense to me to have my eyes to the side too much. Or I've never seen it. I mean, I can't imagine looking past the ball, right? So I always say inside edge of the ball because, basically, I feel like your eyes are in a position where you can look down the line, right? So if it's a little bit here, I'm not going to freak out about that. A little bit inside. I don't want to see someone with their eyes passing by looking backward. That just doesn't make any sense to me. So at any rate, the proper length putter and connected allow me to tilt and get my eyes on the inside edge of the golf ball. Now, the next checkpoint is I look at where the hands come to rest in relation to the shoulders. Now, obviously, I want to let the putter move back and forth without manipulation. Let me explain this right now because this is a confusing thing to a lot of amateurs. Does a putter move straight back or does it move in an arc? Well, let me tell you what. It moves in an arc, but it's very slight, and you should have no thought about it. Absolutely. Now, the reason putter works in an arc that's very, very slight is because of the angle of the shaft. If the shaft was at right angles to the ground, there would be no natural arc, okay? There's an angle. So let's say the putter is like this. Well, that would be a huge natural arc, right? And the face is square to that path. So the bottom line, like the average putter lie angle right now in the industry is 70 degrees. That's enough to give the putter a very slight arc. It takes no thought, right? So I don't want you to think about taking the putter in an arc, and I certainly don't want you to think about taking it straight. I don't want you to think. If your hands are underneath your shoulders, and there could be a feeling of straight back and straight through because my hands are straight under my shoulders. So when I let that happen, my hands swing in a straight line. Here's a really cool, simple thing. I tell people all the time, if you're set up properly, and your elbows are here, and you swung one hand and hit the other, it should swing in a straight line, right? Now, if I'm like this, and my hands are outside of my shoulder line, I do the same thing, it's going left. That's going to be someone hits the toe of their putter. So bottom line, if I tilt properly, and my hands are under my shoulders, right? Naturally, I can let my hands go straight back and straight through. So if someone says to me, I feel like the putter is going in straight lines, I know right away they're feeling their hands more than the putter head. Absolutely. You know, Stan, at least some of the guys are really, they feel the putter head. Well, Stan's going to feel more arc because he's more aware of what the putter head's doing. Does that make sense? Absolutely. So, you know, what's big, what's always been big for me is just, you know, if I were to hold this right here, you guys can see my hands are traveling straight back, straight through, but look at the putter. Because they're under your shoulders. You see the putter's not. The putter's straight, just like my straight putt, no matter what. Five inches coming back straight, and then it starts to naturally arc. Okay, and you guys can see that. But look at my hands. They're traveling straight back, straight through. And that's important to understand. Hands falling directly underneath your shoulders. The shoulders being square, which he always taught me. The shoulders are the train track of your putting stroke. Okay, if I'm here, well, that's where my stroke's going to go naturally. If I'm here, here's where it's going to go naturally. So we've seen Jack Nicklaus right here. We've seen Brian E. Baird right here. We've seen multiple different, you know, people square, people slightly open like Tiger. I've always had my feet probably, you know, a couple inches open, if anything. But my shoulders are always square. And that's where the hands are going to travel straight down that line. And once again, as Todd said, because the putter's at an arc, as an angle away from your body, that's what creates the natural arc. Without thought. So what Scotty said is absolutely 100% right. The best putters have a slight arc in their stroke. That doesn't mean it's a thought. And when it's a thought, usually it becomes too much. And now it's inside. And that was a windshield wiper for six months of my life going like this. And plus, you're manipulating it. You know, the real question is, okay, to look at and go, well, why is the putter going straight back and straight through? Is it your thought? Are you trying to do it? And getting the right setup, get the right length putter and forget about it and let everything swing. I just don't believe that a great putter is conscious of the putterhead looking at it, thinking about it, whatever. So if my hands are outside of my shoulder line, the natural is going to be bad. I always say natural beats unnatural under pressure, right? So natural is going to come out when it matters. And if my hands are out here, I'm going to fight this, right? And if my hands are inside, I'm going to fight this. So if my hands are right under my shoulders, where I can kind of hit one hand and the other in a straight line, I'm not going to fight it. It's just going to swing. If my shoulders are square, my hands are under my shoulders, I have no path problem. If I have pressure on the sides of the grip, I have no face problem. If you have control of the face and the path, you can roll the ball. You can roll it. Absolutely. Right. So then the next thing that's important. So we've got the grip running through the palms. The shaft is aligned with the forearms. I'm stepping and I'm tilting. So my eyes are over the golf ball, inside edge. I'm taking my stance after that. And I'm checking my hands are under my shoulders. When I take my stance, here's the critical thing here. We talked about this already in the full swing. So in putting, there's less knee flex, because you certainly don't need to load your quad or your glute. So I always say lock, unlock, right? So a little less knee flex. And here's the point. The hips have to be over the shoulders. Here's why. If the hips are over the shoulders, the shoulder is past the knees. And that allows someone to let everything swing uninhibited. The minute I see someone get their hips behind them and knees forward, that puts the shoulders behind the knee. Now I got to go around the corner, right? So I'm trying to get people in a setup in a position where I can have just nice flow and kind of go underneath, right? Down that line. So we're playing golf underneath you and that around you guys is huge. Yeah, right? Huge. That's the big thing with the setup is making sure that I'm tilted forward. My eyes are over the ball, right? I take my stance, my weight's on the balls of my feet. I can take my right hand off of the putter and it just swings right back to the grip. If I'm out here, it doesn't do that. So stay right there, Todd. Look at these lines, you guys. We draw these lines and all of our players will put you on the iPad. Look at the eyes right to the inside edge. Look at the hands right in the middle of his shoulder, directly underneath his shoulders there. Look at the hip joint, stays right over the ankles. Face on view. I always wanted to make sure this is the top of my pendulum. And Todd would agree. What he taught me was we want to be slightly hitting up. Now I don't want to hit up an adloft. So what I would do is I had that ball one inch ahead of center. I could check to see when that grip was right in line with my zipper. If that ball was one inch ahead of that, I'm good. I would then take the end of that club and just bump it right over the top of the ball. Very slightly. I'm not a big forward press guy. Just a tiny little bit. And what that would do, it would now allow me to slightly hit up into the ball. Naturally, without thinking about it. Because what did Mickelson always do early on? He had the big press and then he had to actually back up on his short putts in order to accommodate that, right? Hit up on the ball. So the tiny press right there. And what that would allow me to do is hit slightly up with the de-lofted face. That would put topspin on the golf ball. And anytime the shaft is a little bit ahead and not this way, the putter face is also going to be stable through impact. So I'd roll it tight, have good face control. And that's where I felt a little bit more of the pressure with that heel pad. Going that way. Going this way. I never, I always tell my players, don't putt with your fingertips. Don't putt with your fingertips. Putt with the top of the heel pad. A nice little drill I've always done is I get my players to actually take their hand off and just apply pressure there. And what you'll see is the risk creases don't change as a result of that. You know, I got to throw something in here. So you'll love this. I don't think I've ever told this to you. But so this is when I was in my 20s, right? I think I was 22. I was in Texas on a putting green. Doug Sanders. Remember Doug Sanders? Passed away. I think he won 19 times. But he was watching me putt. And he said, you know, if you learn to move the putter grip the same direction of the putter head, you'll become a much better putter. That's an awesome tip for people. So in other words, if the putter head is going backward and my grip is going forward, that's a problem. If the putter head is now going forward and my grip is going backward, that's a problem. That's some good stuff right there, you guys. If the grip, and I used to practice watching the grip. And I just make sure I kept that grip and moving. Now it doesn't ever move as far, right? But it moves in the same direction. So if I keep that grip moving, right, the putter head won't twist. That's a really cool tip. Comments on this one. My best players in my stroke when I film it, a lot of the best strokes I've seen, people get confused with the pendulum. They think it's going to be pointing constantly back at their center. And I see them then do this. I see them add loft and get rid of the face. When I putt, I'm putting, and guess what? Even though it started off aligned just left of my belly button, why? Well, the ball is one inch ahead of center. If it was dead up and down, it would be right there. That tiny little bump that I press it forward is right there. When I finish my stroke, though, this is more aligned with my armpit and not back towards the center of my body. Would you agree with that? Yeah, bottom line, even back before the USGA took away anchored putting or belly putting, the belly is up here, right? So if I go like this and I extend that, it's still there, right? It's still the same. Maybe it moves a little bit. But my point is, anytime you're changing that grip, and that grip is just moving the wrong direction, meaning opposite of the putter head. So if the putter head's going forward, this is going backward, that's a problem. It's changing the loft. If it's going forward, you just want to move it the same direction. It's simple. I like simple stuff. I always told Bo Hosler, and he was a great putter when he was an amateur, when I was over at Impact Golf. I worked with him a lot, and I always felt the same thing. I felt like it was a calligraphy brush on the ground, and I was just brushing it. I wouldn't splat the paint across the paper like this. You know, it was always just like this. I always just kind of put the putter back here, and I would just feel this look right here, like a little drag through. Just nice flow, right? Absolutely. And then rhythm. Let's talk about rhythm, because rhythm is the glue that holds everything together in the golf swing and chipping in and putting. You know, one thing that was big was Todd and I always... I had a metronome. 72, 73 beats per minute was kind of the baseline for us, so I still have it to this day. Free app on the iPhone, okay? It's the MetroTimer app, and it's literally MetroTimer. I already got it set at 72 beats per minute. And, you know, here's the big thing. No matter which putt I had, one foot, 100 feet, I stuck to that beat. Now, one would say, wait, the only variable changing then would be the distance you take it back, but doesn't that mean then you'd have to be faster on the way through to get back there? Yes, in actuality, but the human mind is not going to wrap around milliseconds. So my whole point being is this. I feel one, two with a one-foot putt. I feel one, two, and I'm talking when I say one, two, back on one, arriving at that on a 50-foot putt, on a 100-foot putt the same way. But the thing is, yes, am I slightly having to catch it up a little bit? On the longer putt? Absolutely, but that's not something. It's the point, right? And it's not something that I'm consciously thinking of. I'm just sticking to that rhythm. So once again, when you look at, you know, a real short putt, you know, it's one, two, right? It's one, two. You know, I'm hitting a real long one here across the green, or just forget across the green. Let's just go, you know, 16, 17 feet right here. One, two. You know, that right there, for me, in my mind, was the exact same pace. I went back and arrived at that same pace. I simply lengthened my backstroke to accommodate for the distance that changes. There was two variables there. The pace of the stroke and the length I take it back. I'm not conscious of how much I'm accelerating the putter to get to that distance. I'm just simply counting in my mind. One, two. You know, it's interesting you say that because, you know, I found this through teaching. I mean, I think most amateurs have what I call a signature backstroke. You know, signature is I do it the same way every time. So, if I take the putter back 10 feet on all putts around, say, my right toe, whatever, well, I got a little putt. My subconscious goes, like you said, your brain doesn't sit there and think whatever. It adapts. So, if I take it back 10 inches and I got a short putt, right? My brain's going to go, you better decelerate. Now, if I take it now, next hole, I got a 50 foot putt and I take it back 10 inches. My subconscious goes, you better hit it. So, I'm always changing my tempo. So, you either change your tempo or you change the length of your backstroke. One of the two has to happen. And after a poor setup, more so than anything, a poor tempo is what's oscillating the face and changing things throughout the stroke. Keep a consistent rhythm. Believe it or not, that putting stroke is going to be very stable. But that's where I think it's important, you know, to me, setup, rhythm. I think one of the keys about that is transition. I think that's where people get quick or slow. Because when the putter stops backswing, starts a downswing, that's where our brain interrupts the motion. And that comes from that signature backstroke, though, and really not having any baseline. You know, I think the biggest thing from working with a lot of players, if you get them putting with the right tempo and you get them understanding their one-two, that 72, 73 beats a minute, what's nice is you're eliminating one variable. And what I've learned about watching a lot of players is when they have that rhythm checked into their head, they're then able to look at a putt and use that visual of how far they are away from that. I mean, remember Ray Allen shooting three-pointers? I mean, it was just like butter. Same rhythm every single time, right? And what was nice about that was it didn't matter where he was on the floor. That thing was going in. Steph Curry, the same way. The whole point here is I can look at that distance I have now. I already know. I'm already hearing one-two in my head. Now my backstroke will adapt to that one-two. I brought you a book, right? Putting in the Zone, which I wrote this a couple years ago. What do you think, Kev? And, you know, the sixth chapter. Yeah, look at this. Gosh, it's been a long time, 15 years ago. But it's like getting people in the right setup. You know, the eyes are on the inside edge of the ball. The hands are on the shoulders. The hips are over the heels, like we talked about in the golf swing. And then literally using Pythagorean theory, just I have a tool that I invented. Straight down, straight over. And you can use that to calculate the length of putter. So you get in the right setup before you get a putter, right? Don't accommodate yourself to the putter. Make the putter accommodate to you while you got in the right setup. This was awesome. When you get the person in the right setup, and we're going to go through that in a second. When you get the person in the right setup, the top of the wrist crease down is the vertical. And then there's a horizontal from their toe line. That vertical, by the way, matches the toe line. So it goes straight down right here to here from the wrist crease. And then there's a horizontal that would go out. And it was A squared and B squared. Todd developed a tool that is unbelievable. It's the coolest invention I've seen in the game that fits the putter perfectly by measuring that vertical and by measuring that horizontal. And he created a diagonal. And then he created a diagonal that is the putter itself, C squared. If you put a 35-inch putter in my hand, let me simulate that real quick. Oh. Can't do it. So guess what I'm going to do? I'm going to have to pull this in. I'm going to be too upright. I'm going to be sitting back on my heels. All the stuff that you just don't want to do is going to happen initially. Here's the three things that happen. Length of putter influences the distance you stand from the ball, your posture, right? Your forward tilt or your elbow connection. Those three things. So if a player's got a putter that's too long for them, they have to stand up taller. Or if they try to tilt and get their eyes over the golf ball, they have to pull their elbows up behind their, you know, now they're stuck. Stuck and all the hands become overactive. Okay, I'm going to be tilted and I'm going to have my elbows in front of me. But now I have to have the putter out from me. Now my eyes can't be over. So the only way I can get set up properly over the ball is to have a putter that accommodates the setup. Good stuff. And guys, don't forget, you know, this is going to be my gift right here. I'm stoked to be one of the first who has it. But let me tell you, go and get putting in the zone. It's going to be, it's on Amazon. You can just type this in and find it right away. Yeah, it's color or black and white. You want to save some money, black and white, but color is much more. The color, the color. Yeah, I love it. I love it. But look, it's all the stuff that I learned, you know, as a kid. And I just, I look at these pictures and I go, man, you know what? This is all the stuff I used to look at. So definitely go pick this up. It's made, it's made a difference for me in my game. And I know just taking a little bit of what we talked about today, applying that. And once again, you know, have some comments, answer some, you know, ask some questions down below. We'll be, we'll be there to answer your questions for you and get you putting better. Okay. All right, you guys. Great stuff. All right, thank you. At Forzac Golf, we take a lot of pride in having developed some of the best and most consistent golf swings on the planet. We do this through simplicity. Our Full Swing Masterclass will take you on a step-by-step, easy-to-understand process on how to get your golf swing better than ever. Join the many before you who've utilized our Full Swing Masterclass to take their games to the next level and beyond.