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In this situation, the construction industry in China is basically almost finished
So a large number of male workers can't go back
At the same time, there are many problems
There are many problems
China is still a world factory
Now China has several problems
The problem of unemployment for migrant workers
It's not that a large number of migrant workers are not needed
The main situation is that the population of China is declining
The population of migrant workers is aging very badly
Think about the earliest ones in the 80s and 90s
At most in the 90s
Now the Chinese migrant workers are over 50 years old
It's already about 1 in 3
In addition, in migrant workers
The average age was 35 years ago
When I was investigating
I went to work as a migrant worker for 3 consecutive years in 2004, 2005, and 2006
At that time, migrant workers in city factories were on average 20 years old
They were hired from 14 years old to 24 years old
When they are old, they will go back to get married
The male workers are a little older, about 30 years old
But at that time, the population of China was flourishing
Migrant workers were on average very young
So they worked very fast
At that time, I went to a light industrial factory
They said that people over 24 years old would not be hired
They said that people over 24 years old would go home to get married
In addition, those who are really capable at the age of 24
There will be better jobs, more stable jobs in the city
In short, the factory workers are very young
Now the average age of migrant workers in China is over 40 years old
People over 40 years old have the ability to work on the production line
It is obviously declining, this is known
Within 10 years, there are 80 million migrant workers in China
Their age will exceed 60 years old
Now the problem is like this
Why are migrant workers workers?
Why are migrant workers called migrant workers?
This is a characteristic of China
They are rural households
Rural households are second-class citizens
Rural means no household?
No, rural means there is a household, what do you mean there is no household?
There is a household, when you come into the city, it is called a temporary household
You put it in your household, it is clearly written as a migrant worker's household
It means you have no long-term residence rights
No long-term residence rights
It means you don't enjoy the work protection of the city people
And unemployment protection, all kinds of protection
And benefits, right?
Are there benefits in rural areas?
Yes, there are some benefits, but relatively few
When you enter the factory to work
This has something to do with me
When we were in China in 2004, 2005
To promote the equal rights of migrant workers
At that time, I was the representative of the U.S. migrant workers
I often said that the U.S. migrant workers are hypocrites
Hypocrites
We promoted the law of unification
In 2007, China adopted the Labor Unification Act
But the Chinese law still needs to be changed
At the same time, we promoted
At that time, with the U.S. and some units
The Guangzhou General Assembly in China participated hard
Because there were many migrant workers
Many in the North were not
Sorry, I ate a lot last night
Promoting the insurance of migrant workers
Later, China also passed the law
Because it was really impossible to not do it
But now, the population of China
The demand for cities has declined, exports have declined
The demand for migrant workers in China
The demand for manpower has also declined significantly
Many people, the problem is
The farmland in China's rural areas
Continuously declining, the city has taken over a lot of the farmland
There is no farmland to farm
Not that there is no farmland, but they don't know how to farm
They came out when they were very young
And now the third generation of migrant workers
The so-called third generation of migrant workers
Basically, they are from the city
They don't have a household
Everything is out of the question
So this is a big problem
If they go back to the city to work
Staying in the countryside, this is very miserable
The houses in the countryside are also very poor
In some places, especially in the northwest
The conditions are very poor
In Yunnan, the north is a bit better
But Guizhou is also very poor
Some places
Guangdong is a bit better
It should be a lot better, not a little better
No problem in Guangdong
But in the northeast, what is it called?
Is it called a pit or what?
What is it called when you sit on top and burn fire underneath?
It's called a pit in Cantonese
It's called a pit in Mandarin
Those are very comfortable
How do you translate that word in Cantonese?
There is no such thing
It's like burning fire under a brick bed
It's called a pit
In Cantonese, it's mostly read as a pit
There is no such word
The word pit is similar to the word pit
It's a pit on the side of the fire
People usually sleep on top
They sleep on top at night
They burn fire underneath
Then the firewood is placed on the outside wall
Let me tell you
It must be more comfortable than winter in Guangdong if there is no warm air
Winter in Guangdong?
It's even colder indoors than outdoors
Yes, at that time, Changgong and Yunnan didn't seem to have warm air
It was so cold in Hunan
It was so cold in Guangzhou
It was warm in the Northeast
So it's a tradition
It's not a problem
When I went back to Guangzhou
I lived in the Haizhu Square
Was it a Chinese-style building or what?
The water was frozen to the point of flying
It's almost like walking on ice
I had pneumonia for a week
It's even colder indoors than outdoors
There's no way, there's no way
It's not warm at all
It's not warm indoors
Talking about China's migrant workers
All these problems
You said you made this topic
What do you mean?
Why?
Are they going to rebel?
Rebels?
Are they going to rob?
Don't be so high-class if they are not going to rebel
Yesterday you used the word robbing
The word robbing
They have been robbing for many years
People in Guangzhou
Now the audience in Guangzhou
Everyone knows
It's called the Northeast Tiger Mountain
The Northeast is robbing in Guangzhou for a long time
The Chinese-style factories were closed
It was a disaster in the 90s
People in the Northeast went to the South
Now it's getting better
But think about it
When China was transformed
All were transformed
Look at Bo Xilai going to Chongqing
When Bo Xilai went to Chongqing
He sang and danced
When he sang
I heard his classmates say
He said he didn't want to sing
When he went there
Others sang
He liked to sing
He sang along
So he sang
He explained to his classmates
So
The robbing
The secretary of Chongqing
The provincial secretary
He found that he couldn't control anything
He was controlled by the black community
So he took Wang Lijun
To suppress the black community
The black community in China is very powerful
Yes
The black community is on the same line as the police
All of them are a group of people
The police and the police cooperate
So at that time
Wang Lijun
He was a gangster
He knew how to do it
He was a gangster in Dalian
He suppressed all the people
He suppressed Liu Han
He was very powerful
So he sang and danced
That's how Bo Xilai
Became a star
So you say
China
Now the problem
Now the migrant workers are unemployed
This is related to the elderly migrant workers
Yes
I don't know
Now the structure of China
I don't know how to compare with the past
Sometimes compare
In the past
What was China's practice in the past?
There was a royal dynasty
When all the royal dynasties were founded
There was an expression called
Ten corpses, nine empty
It was really a war
People died miserably
There was an effect after the war
The land was barren
People died
Think about it
Even in the Ming Dynasty
Li Zhicheng, Zhang Yanzhong
They killed people like this
Ten corpses, nine empty
Later, the Qing army came down
Yangzhou, Taocheng
Those were really miserable
You can see it from the Han Dynasty
Han Dynasty
Let's talk about Chinese history
Anyway, there is no news today
Let's talk about history
Han Dynasty
After Liu Bang came to power
The first thing
He divided the land with the farmers
When the land was divided
At the time of the Civil War
China was very rich
Later, all the dynasties
The Tang Dynasty
The newly formed royal dynasties had land to divide
The land was very important to the Chinese
After dividing the land
The royal dynasties began to flourish
It flourished all the way
The Han Dynasty was well-known
The Tang Dynasty was well-known
The Qing Dynasty was prosperous
You can count them one by one
It's the same
They received taxes
It's not taxes
It was used little
At the beginning
The founding emperors were very stingy
Yes
The founding emperors couldn't build the Shuiyang
It wasn't the founding emperors
The second generation was so stingy
But the Shuiyang was immediately followed by the Tang Dynasty
In short, look back at the history of China
At the beginning of the dynasty
Everyone is more
Relatively
Then the people
The farmers settled down
Then the royal dynasty began to have money
Then the war began
The poor began to fight
The taxes began to be collected
As soon as the taxes were collected
The farmers began to collect taxes from below
The farmers were poor
What to do if the farmers are poor?
Everyone eats that piece of land
As soon as the farmers collect taxes
When the country pays more taxes
What's the problem?
The land
There was really no way
At that time
What happened to the natural disaster?
What happened?
The land began to be sold
Land annexation
In the middle of the Chinese dynasty
The biggest symbol of the decline of the royal dynasty
Land annexation
Land owners have a lot of land
Farmers all
At that time
The rebellion began
At that time, think about it
Land annexation
Young people
Young people feel hopeless
So you see the rebellion in the past
A lot of people
Land acquisition
Collecting
Clever people
People who have read books feel hopeless
Then the farmers
The whole family felt hopeless
Let's rebel together
Collecting and rebelling
Collecting and bringing farmers to rebel
Everyone sees the flood
Yes
The flood knows what's going on
But the problem with China now is this
China
Has never been in China's history
In the period of peace
Population
Human population is declining
This has never been in history
In the past, during the period of peace, no war
Everyone died and gave birth
Yes
It becomes a lot of young people
What was the chance of young people at that time?
Now it's the other way around
Not giving birth
At that time, the population will become golden tower
Golden tower
Generally speaking
People rebelled
Young people rebelled
Now, young people still have work to do
Farmers
Older people
Up to 50 years old
A large group
Think about 80 million people
Nothing to do
Young people can't get a wife
Older people
Really helpless
In the future, what kind of problem will this structure cause?
I really don't know
Take history
You know there is a problem
But what is the problem?
What is the effect?
I don't know
And there is a global problem
It was not thrown away before
It's China
You don't know now
Deng Xiaoping said it at that time
Deng Xiaoping said to whom?
I forgot who he said
He said China has 300 million refugees
Can you stand it?
Did he say that to Carter?
No, it was Carter
Not Carter
Carter said
I will give you 100 million
So I don't know
Now seeing this situation
Modern situation
I really don't know
But the problem in the countryside is really big
Poverty
Sometimes I drive to see the countryside
Especially in the north
Poverty
Almost the same
The houses are still made of mud
The houses made of mud are not a big problem
I have lived
I have built
The mud house is very comfortable
Mud houses are hit in the middle of the game
Because your mud house
If you look at the countryside
If it is burning bricks
You need a lot of energy
You use mud
When the mud is dry
Mud and grass are together
The palaces used to be like this
The palace is in the mud
Added glutinous rice
Glutinous rice is very solid
Ordinary farmers' houses
We used to be in the middle
Mud plus grass
The grass is dry
Not so bad
Japan is the same
In Japan
The houses in the old days
There is grass in the mud
The grass is almost the same
Yes
Not so bad
It's not that the houses are bad
But people's income is poor
Poverty is the second
There is no hope
Now the Chinese Statistics Bureau
The young generation
Many migrant workers
We can't change our migrant worker identity
Live to study
One or two
Deadly
Working
Now there are few migrant workers
Children have city accounts after school
But now
Students have no job after college
Can't find a job
So this is a problem in history
A problem that has never happened
Don't know what to do
Yesterday
Cheng Xiaonong
He went to Shanghai University
To recruit students
Some are red lights
Some are yellow lights
That is to say, I don't accept anyone
There is no such job
Especially studying science
You can't find a job in science
I don't know why
The first thing I know is why
Chinese universities
Chinese universities are so busy
I have seen so many new universities
I haven't seen the numbers
I don't know how many new universities have increased in China
More than 10 million a year
More than 10 million
Yes, what is the proportion increase?
More than 10 million in such a big country like China
It's not a big deal
The United States now
Actually has similar problems
University students now
University students in the United States
Maybe they can't find a job anymore
Especially those who study liberal arts
They find a job
Now ask university students
A lot of students
What do you do after school?
Starbucks as a waiter
Yes, a lot of people do this
Because I am now
Our two-year community college is better
Because the community college is for your employment requirements
We have a lot of jobs
Our state government is like this
You have to hire 30 people for a few years
You need training
Our school will help you train
A lot of companies give you money for training
Training people for two years
There is a contract
So now a lot of big companies have moved to our state
Our state policy is very pro-business
New York
Some companies have moved from California and New York
So now
The benefits and insurance people are hired in the United States
A lot of money
You have to give them a lot of money
You count 25% of your salary
That's it
I can count the benefits for you
The US employer has to pay 7.2%
of your salary
Social insurance tax
Then the holidays
The benefits are included in the holiday
In short
You hire people
You count 25% of your salary
For example, if you are looking for a job in Virginia
How much is the base salary?
5,000 to 6,000 a month?
It can't be said
Your job is very different
Some jobs are more than 100,000 a year
Some are really
It's hard to find
Of course it's not that hard
It's not
Those are high-tech jobs
100,000 a month is a lot
It's hard to find
It's not that hard
There are a lot of new jobs
But those jobs are not stable
Because now some high-tech companies are firing people
It's hard to say
How to say
Now the world economy has entered a new transition period
In the 1990s, the Internet was popular
There was a transition period
So jobs
In the US
I won't talk about the US
In the US, employment is a big problem
Unemployment rate is always 5% to 3%
There are only 62% of men in the US who are of employment age
The rest don't work
Or some are studying
A large proportion of them don't work
They say the government has hired a lot of people
This is how the government hires people
The government has 2.6 million official employees
The rest are countless contract workers
Contract workers and contract units
The government contract unit is the most powerful
For example, the government contract company Google
All government contract units
The government contract is a contract
You are like this
Now China's government contracts are very powerful
A lot of money
So
You talk about China's employment
Employment and social stability are really complicated
They say half of the Chinese are actually unemployed
Half of them are actually unemployed
Those who say
I am one of them
I have never
I really don't listen to those people on the Internet
Those people always talk about
How to say
They talk about people who are not afraid of death
But the problem is
Even the concept of unemployment is very difficult to define
What is unemployment?
You say you work 15 hours a week
Is it unemployment?
Is it unemployment to work 20 hours?
China's 40-year-old migrant workers are staying in the city
A large number of people are single-day workers
If you can find a job, you can work
If you can't find a job, you can't find a job
You say it counts as employment or unemployment
This statistic has always been difficult
You say a person
Open a company without making money
He has no money, is he unemployed?
The United States does not count
There is a number in the United States
It's not the same every week
More than 10 hours or 20 hours
It counts as unemployment
So this data in China is also uncertain
Because now young people, including those who work part-time
You say it's like they are doing an investigation
Unemployed youth
If a person delivers takeout, does it count as unemployed youth?
He thinks he is an unemployed youth
He has a takeout order
Counting the money he earns
That kind of investigation
He earns more than HK$6,000 a month
Delivering takeout
It doesn't count as unemployment
There are a lot of single-day workers in China
Unemployment statistics
Of course, we say that the Chinese government always conceals unemployment
But the unemployment statistics are very difficult
It's also true
He said doing one hour a week is not unemployment
Now you see
One week of IT
One hour a week is enough to eat
Then how do you count?
It's not that easy to count
I had a friend come back that day
He told me
He said he wanted China to find someone to do some animation with him
He said one minute of animation
How much does it cost?
In short, it's more than HK$1,000
The US is the same
How can I do animation now?
I just tried to send a Christmas card made by AI
What does it look like at home?
If you ask someone to do it
For example, someone asked you to draw a normal $2,000
Now AI can draw it in half a minute
Yes
There are a lot of things that are very difficult to count
It's really hard to count
So in my movie, everyone sees that there is an animation in the movie
My animation, I asked the price
I said I want to do one minute of animation
Hollywood costs HK$30,000
I guess you really won't do it
Then I went online to find
In the end, I found someone in Sri Lanka
HK$300 for one minute
Yes
Think about it, all these things are like this
I also know that he has done a lot of artificial intelligence
HK$300 for a young man
He has eaten well for a week
He may have done it with me for only one day
HK$300
What do you think I have earned?
What does he think I have earned?
Now I have AI to do it
I know I still have a lot of time
Yes
So these things
Technological development
Globalization
The globalization of the United States is very powerful
Because the Internet
All the white-collar work in the United States
It's all out there
Outsource
Outsource, very powerful
China has a lot of outsources
India too
India has a lot now
China's current salary has also increased
So these problems
I am talking about these problems
How to say it?
Maybe we scholars
Sometimes it's more complicated
Now people's survival is different from before
What can make them survive?
What can make them rebel?
We don't know
I really don't know
Because at least I don't know
At least I don't know
In this world, when people rebel
When they take risks
You have no space to survive
Now in this modern economy
How much space is there?
How much space does the Communist Party have to rule?
How much space does the Chinese have to endure?
We don't know
At least I don't know
There is one thing
Now young people want to leave
Leave China
Of course they want to come to the U.S.
Of course they want to leave
It's a way out
I know there are so many people who have left to come to the U.S.
The conditions are not so bad
The conditions are really bad
They won't leave
They can't leave
It's a lot of money
But I
How to say it?
As an American
I really don't like this kind of illegal immigration
Of course
It's not about the job market
It's not about this
It's about illegal immigration
It has changed Americans' view of the law
The concept of social governance
It has messed up the U.S. community
I just heard Levine say
Now the Democratic Party is basically relying on the outside
It's basically done
Let the people vote in the future
Now they are targeting Texas
They want to turn Texas into South America
This is what he said
But this is what I think
Think about it
The Democratic Party, no matter who you are
We have seen it
We have seen it all along
Sometimes people have to do it themselves
They don't even understand
How much damage it will do to themselves
So now
Even if you are a Democrat
Don't say crazy
We are normal Democrats
Have you ever thought
What effect will such a change in the U.S. have on you?
People don't think about it
The Democratic Party
Many of these leftist people
We want to immigrate, it's human rights
That's what it is
This always reminds me of
At the beginning, China, the Soviet Union
The intellectuals of the Communist Party
A lot of rich people
How many rich people are there in the Communist Party?
The upper class
Why should they support this
To the society they live in
To humanity
There is no harm in it
Because they think this is correct
Because it is correct
They don't even consider their own interests
Now you see the leftists in the West
You know those people
Talk to them
They are all like this
Crime and so on
They are also dissatisfied
But when they make policies
They are short-sighted
Very short-sighted
Sometimes I think they are so far-sighted
Don't have to do this
Eight years later, they have an identity and vote
There are such concepts
But every specific one
You go out and support Hamas
Let's talk about the most typical
There are a group of Jews who support Hamas
What do you support?
Hamas supports the Palestinians
Do you think
The one they want to kill is you
There are a group of gay people
You go out and support them
If you have the courage
You go to Gaza to protest
You will be killed
Those gay people will be killed
Yes
Such a simple connection
People will not see it
Will be blinded by these political propaganda
They are smart people
Not stupid people
So
We are in a world situation
Sometimes I feel more pessimistic when I see these things
Human beings should never underestimate
Human beings' ability to mess up their own society
The cadres of the Communist Party
Faced with the current situation
It's really chaotic now
The current economic situation
Do they have the right and ability to follow the policy?
Do they have a reason to do it?
What reason?
Is there any benefit?
It's not a matter of benefit
It must be personal harm
What do you have to do first?
Do you have any harm?
Don't even talk about benefit
Do you have any harm?
Will you be led to do it together?
We look at the cadres of the Communist Party
You think it's a civil war
At that time, people fought
This one pulled out, that one pulled out
I wrote in my book
Born American
In fact, the real reason is fear
You are afraid
When you are afraid
All the reasons you shouldn't do
All become a kind of psychological
This kind of accuracy, justification
In fact, many people are very simple
You go to support Palestine
Many people, even classmates go
If you don't go, you are afraid
It's like people don't play with me
Then go
Many things are like this
At that time, I wrote an article
I also wrote more articles than Harvard Professor
At that time, you look at the research
I have researched 26 cases
Cases of killing people
You see that everyone is fine
Men and women, especially women
How can it be so cruel to kill people?
It's always the weakest when it starts to hit people
The most timid
The youngest
People look down on me
I will hit people
Hit
The second one followed
I can't stop hitting
Hit to death
That's it
Many things are the logic of human behavior
At that time
If you do the right thing
Everyone is rebelling
You go, I go
Then follow
It's like
But the logic of human behavior is
Really
At that time, everyone urged you to be harmed
Then you really
I sometimes admire people
When I was alone
Still insisting
I turned out to have a good friend
American
He was studying in Oxford
During the anti-Japanese war
100,000 people went out to fight the anti-Japanese war in the UK
He and his two friends
Two Americans
One holding a sign
Supporting our army
Two people
That's right
Later, the other person
I won't say who he is
Later that person
Became the U.S. Navy Minister
A friend I know very well
Two people studying in Oxford
Two people holding signs
Looking at two people in the street
You two really
Are they called Rhodes Scholars?
Those who went to the U.S. to study in the UK
There is a group of Rhodes Scholars
Is it like Clinton?
Yes
Rhodes Scholars' money
It turned out to be the founder of Rhodesia
