Miami Heat vs Orlando Magic Live Five on the Floor Postgame Show

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quarter has its warts and we're going to talk about that this ends up being one of the more encouraging victories of the Season against a very good Orlando Magic team that I think a lot of people wanted to see how Miami stacked up against them they're chasing them in the same division I think they can catch them in this Division and this game proved that to be the case so we're going to talk about all of that and we're going to lead right into the rocky Sports gamer of the night and now on five on the floor it's time for the gamer of the night sponsored by Rock Esports Center the place to eat drink and play all day host your next birthday party with them located at 15305 South Dixie Highway in paletto Bay they've got a 55 500t state-of-the-art Center equipped with all the high-end power play all day passes available for just 25 bucks but if you mention five reasons it's just $20 so mention five reasons or five RSN you get to play all day for $20 and now the gamer of the [Music] night gamer of the night is y'all know who it is the bucket himself Tyler hero 28 points 10 of 17 from the field he had eight rebounds he had seven assists we're going to ignore the four turnovers dude showed up showed out four five from three Alex uh he really capped him off bam was big as well uh but Tyler herro you wanted to see with Jimmy out I guess a team that's gonna have to rely on Tyler to get this done um to see him flourish the way that he did was very encouraging what did you like best about what we saw from Tyler hero tonight um I I think just the Poise the confidence not that any of that is new or like a development or anything just cool to see him like um he's really been thrown into the fire uh his first couple of games when it comes to playing absolutely Elite defenses like I I I believe the magic were third or fourth best defensive rating on nba.com heading into this game uh the Timberwolves were first heading into that game if I remember correctly and I I just think he's done a great job responding to it like he knows what he can get to um in certain matchups with the with the Minnesota game what was obvious was that the heat knew that they could get to the mid-range versus that team the Cs gave up some of the most um from that area and I think tonight it was more of just uh Tyler reading the situation and just taking what whatever was there and it was a little bit more well-rounded I would say tonight like I just I I love the way he approached his game I don't think he did too much I think there was points where it's like he's touching the ball and holding the ball more often than he does but I think that's because of the situation with Jimmy out where it's like he ends up taking some of the load when it's you know when the offense is bogged down it's like it's going to naturally go back to Tyler and just kind of give him the ball to make something happen when when things get ugly but other than that like I I really thought he played really poised and just a a very good game not not perfect but uh kind of like an aame for him I I think you know 288 and S 10 of 17 shooting four or five from three he gave you the four or four from the line which is solid for him you know again not perfect four turnovers but again like you can't be nitpicking versus um an elite defense while you're also without Jimmy and um not only that like you know Tyler was a huge part of why they put up um a 108.1 offensive rating in the half court which is in the 80th percentile this season that's very very good for the for a Heat team that notoriously has struggled in the half court especially when you talk about without Jimmy again on the road versus a great defensive team you can't take away too much from went you know negatively from this game other than what happened in the last couple of minutes and I just think Tyler was just a big part of why they were able to develop that cushion the first place he got going so quick with their first seven points and I think the way that he gets to his shots is so like it's it's like second nature to him like I think he's gotten really good at at making reads and although he's not like an elite passer he doesn't make a lot of dumb decisions and I just think he knows how to really get to his game and that's really what we were talking about over the summer and a continuation of those first games we saw where it's like he got better at the things he was already good at he just looks like a little bit of a better version of himself he really does um he immediately picked up right where he left off Brady and I think that that's really encouraging Tyler also and Ethan documented this um on five reasons Sports Twitter account Tyler got upset late in the game as as Orlando started to come back you could see he was taking ownership and them getting this one done but the other guy that also obviously was flanking him in this particular circumstance was bam out of bio and in any game where Jimmy is out this is a bam and Tyler Le group um I thought he put together a really solid performance after getting off to a relatively kind of not slow start but quiet start um this is a Orlando team that hangs their hat on defense so to see Tyler and Bam really take off was really good um from bamat bio specifically he appeared to give Paulo Caro and all the bigs on Orlando a lot of trouble on the defensive end what did you see from him um quarterbacking the defense that made guys like Paulo uh fron Vagner wend Carter Jr really struggle for the most of the night yeah I think one of the best things about bam is the way he can kind of inherit any type of style like he can read what is needed from him in a certain game where there's nights where you need him to drop 25 where you need him to kind of go ISO when when the offense kind of goes down then there's nights when they have a flow and he doesn't get in the way of that like you said it it didn't feel like a slow start from him to your point if you mentioned the word you know quiet start that's what it felt like because he just wasn't getting in the way it was like when they went on that Big Run uh a lot of that was just him just kind of setting things up and a lot of it wasn't assists it was just him just screening away forcing back Cuts getting screening away for threes like all of this stuff that he was doing was big and defensively you know if we're going to keep giving this Asis but like not counting the last five minutes of this this basketball game it was a really good defensive performance like they were swarming everywhere I thought bam was obviously a big part of that we have not seen them play like play defense like this in weeks why is that because B abio hasn't played weeks like that's literally the the defining Factor here of kind of adding this guy back into the mix um and then the other part was because we were debating actually talking about this in our next segment with with the play of the game but he had some offensive moments where we talk about highe with the the pump fake we talk about Jimmy with the pump fake Bam's pump fake is Just Killer as well by the way and I said this earlier it was like this has to be the best shot fake team in the NBA like in terms of just just down the line like they get you in the air like they can throw you around uh but the way ban does it a little bit different like I'm watching like he he gets people to fall for his jumpers consistently just because there's that respect but he sells it with his eyes man like he he sells every part of that where he just looks up at that basket and gets them off his off their feet he's gone and he's getting to the basket and then he had a second one where he did it at the free throw line throws a pump fake gets in the lane throws another one in the lane and two people got up in the air and then he got the end one so like just the way he can control games in that way without having to force I feel like that was just kind of the key parts tonight the other thing I thought was interesting to see um and I saw a comment here uh from eddon 420 says Caleb's been a ghost and so to our um to our listeners on the podcast feed we are going to throw some comments and mix them in here he had a quiet night tonight and also Kyle was limited to 18 minutes Alex do you think that them only playing Kyle 18 minutes were circumstantial or do you think that that is a strategic move to scale back what he's doing right now in kind of in a way like they can sit Jimmy because they have enough Wings to cycle through but they know they can't sit Kyle because they don't have many other guards so they just play them the bare minimum am I on to something there or okay that's 100% what I think happened it's like you don't like they they they were without Jimmy so they didn't want to lose another guy who helps them get into their offense and you know did you just you know Kyle took the game he was playing a lot Kyle Lowry was playing a lot of minutes especially with uh bam and Tyler out and was touching the ball a lot more than he does when everybody's healthy which you know it's just like this thing that we'll know we'll never know if if we'll see again right the entire team like being available but in General um I don't know man I I think like the the Kyle thing is not really something I think about too much because I don't really think this team is like it needs a a traditional point guard as we've gone back and forth forever about he's been very good for them and but sometimes it's like when he doesn't play for you know good stretches of time I don't think they miss him too much but it's like what you're saying it's like you know you give him the 17 minutes you get enough of Kyle Lowry out there and I I do think some of it is scaling down his role but I do think it's like you know he just got off of this point where he was playing a lot so they're kind of like balancing it out he had the game off and now today he plays but he's not playing too much he's not he's not responsible for too much you know trying to find that compromise there the middle ground but um not worried about it in any way I don't think it's you know like I really do think it's just going to be Kyle Lowry has kind of these boring like very just unspectacular stat lines once once like the you know the main guys are back I just think that's kind of the way it goes he he goes back to being connector doesn't take quite as many shots as long as he keeps taking the open ones that's all that really matters to me I could care less if he makes you know if he has 15 points or whatever and five assists and like a cute stat line as long as he is impacting the game with what he does and not getting beat you know one-on-one I'm fine with it man and and Caleb you know I I don't want people trashing him too much if we're being real like I think he's been great I think he's been very good for them as a he's had a very good stretch just like consistently productive um yeah I'm not I don't think the Caleb thing is concerning we got a lot of people in the comments James Adin Cola Tiff L both saying that they're tired of the Tyler hero dises we need to put some respect on his name stop putting him in trade talks because he's a beast he should be Untouchable I am sub um I'm basically like uh paraphrasing what they said uh he the gamer of the night folks we gave him his props we're trying to give him his props that dude is uh he came through huge tonight uh there's no doubt about that really Miami tonight separated themselves in the second quarter though uh particularly they 4326 was the uh margin in the four or in the second quarter I wish it was in the fourth quarter in the second quarter and that's really what got Miami in a place where they could concede the points that they did in this game and still come away with the victory let's get into the insurance by Lynette a aggressive play of the night and now it's time for the insurance byet play of the night sponsored by insurance by.com and a Aggressive Insurance Agency you can reach out to our friend Lynette at 95458 8800 that's 954 581 8800 or insurance fet.my with two NS and two T's your best play for Auto Insurance homeowners insurance condo Insurance life insurance or a retirement program reach out to Lynette at insurance byte.com so there were four Dudes Off the Bench and double figures the the Miami Heat needed that from this bench and they got it tonight shout out to Thomas Bryant but no the play of the night goes to Haywood High Smith and we have none other than Brady Hawk to break it down we went back and forth to this like said but I think it has to be the the certain stint from Haywood High Smith where there was basically a four play I know it's the play of the night but it's the four plays of the night tonight uh where he basically just locked up Pao on on his drive and like he jammed the ball stole it he gathered it goes up for the layup and he just contests it perfectly goes the other direction here actually threw like a really nice like no look past him in the corner eventually and he hits the corner three goes back down on defense he contests another P three where he just gets right in his sping contest it absolutely Sprints down the court like just they they start pushing he Sprints down to that corner and J Rich finds him in the corner he hits another three they need that man like especially in nights like this they just need a certain punch from a guy and it felt like Haywood was that like it was there was timely offensive rebounds there was strong defense where he was just everywhere it felt like and then obviously he was just super hot from three I've actually never seen him this I don't even want I don't know if the words aggressive or just eager to shoot like he came out the gate when he entered the game and he was getting shots up like he was going to get the ball he had the green light tonight uh and it was good to see him get a couple of to fall obviously early and a couple actually went in and out but you mentioned that that span I just want to add in that second quarter I you ever like see a stat where you have to like double check to make sure you're correct because it's kind of crazy like that's what I did at that point because they did not miss a shot across the last six minutes and 30 seconds of the second quarter like they they made 12 straight shots and it's like part of that was Haywood part of that was a lot of guys a lot of those were threes it was a lot of Tyler as we mentioned before but like when you have that type of stuff happening and it always starts with an energy guy and it felt like Haywood was that and that was kind of the play that that started this all definitely and you know who else had some plays of the night was Duncan Robinson um I mean shout out to him with the way he continues every night to get to the bucket finish in in traffic get plays he's using the glass on these layup s in really crafty ways uh I've been really impressed by what Duncan Robinson does every single night so I did want to make sure that he got his uh props for his play as well because there were a couple plays in the second half that I think he could have gotten play of the night for uh as well um the bench came up big they really didn't get a ton from two starters uh haime hwz he had an okay night this was kind of you're starting I guess to see a rookie go through the moments here um but they're super deep this is a team that you're seeing that if a guy is out they can cycle in the next guy so I think that that is a big um positive part of what we're seeing with this team as they're growing and figuring out what they have but now we got to talk about the damn fourth quarter what the hell is happening again so like they were minus 96 heading into this game tonight they were outscored by for by eight so now they're from minus 96 we are up to minus 104 folks what is happening here that's what they are in fourth quarters this year I can't explain that they won though and um I asked um Brian fona this question Alex so I'll ask you I interest interested your perspective um if this is a fatal flaw of this team you think that this is a fatal flaw you think that this is something that they can figure out how do you figure it out uh first you and then I'm interested for Brady's fourth quarter perspective as well this is going to be a recurring theme all season it's not going to be as easy to figure out I was like it's you know a couple good fourth quarter games and everything's fine but and we talked about this on playback and for whoever here wasn't on there with us um you know hang out with us during the game watch the games with us playback. vrsn or download the app we have a great time like um it's fun interacting with everybody throughout the game and even if you don't have cable you can just hang out with us don't have to watch the game on playback anyways um I do think when you come back to the fourth quarter stuff it's been a problem it's definitely been a problem they they've been one of the worst fourth quarter teams this season however they do deserve some benefit of the doubt cuz although it wasn't the same exact team same exact everything right as last season they were fantastic in the clutch last season they were amazing high they they they played at a high level and they did it at a high volume of clutch games and it really just came down to and we've talked about this before just out executing teams going to what they're good at you know not turning the ball over and playing defense playing defense and I feel like the fact that they haven't I don't think they've played up to their defensive identity this season the way that we thought they would we expected them to have a better defensive rating among the absolute Elite right amongst the the Minnesota and the Orlando at up to this point obviously you have to throw in you know bam being out you have to throw in the games Jimmy has missed all of that though like it still hasn't felt like they've played up to their standard there and I do think that's a big part of their fourth quarter stuff is you know teams go on runs and I I think a reason that it worked out with the magic tonight and a reason why I wouldn't mind seeing this as like a four five first round playoff matchup is the magic kind of play right into the heat strengths where like you can just kind of help off of a bunch of dudes and they're not going to make you pay too often with their threes and that was a huge problem for the magic tonight they shot nine of 34 from three and uh which is about 26% and from the Heat's end 15 of 29 which is 52% like it plays right into what the heat want to do and I think that's kind of why they were able to win tonight is because you could just kind of stick to that game plan you you you once the Heat have a game plan for a team for a specific matchup I feel great about them because they have a bunch of ways that you can that you can go about it but when they really play to defensive identity like that I think that's going to end up helping solve their four quarter stuff more than anything and obviously it would be nice to just like keep running the stuff that got you there right like don't just resort to Jimmy ISO ball like again that shot that he took the other night versus Minnesota that was you know things like that instances like that where yeah you want an early shot but like get a good one right don't just settle and like they have I feel like we've talked so many times like they have so many guys that they can go to so many kind of different types of actions they can go to and yes in the end you just want to go to the most trustworthy things with Jimmy with Tyler with the Duncan actions I feel like you can generate offense I don't think you have to settle for bad shots so I do think it's fixable I give them the benefit of the doubt but if this keeps continuing it's going to be I I think it's a real problem and something that could completely Curb Your playoffs because if you just build a whole season of bad habits in the fourth quarter it's not going to magically change in the playoffs and that's what they did last season is build a whole season of good habits in the fourth quarter when it comes like actually like after Jimmy actually came in because teams would go on runs before but they would do good once like it was actually crunch time um and I do think like you gotta you gotta start you gotta start stabilizing a little bit now before it gets bad enough I think tonight was nice because um you know you kind of built that a big enough cushion where you could mess around a little bit and still dang weather it just got it it was starting to get bad there we were even doing like a Mike englas bit on playback but making fun of how we used to get so concerned when teams would be like making it from a 20o game to a 15-point game it got close it went they were up 18 with two minutes to go and then all of a sudden I think the magic brought it all the way down maybe seven or eight um and I don't think it's that big of a deal tonight I do think like the overall for quarter stuff going forward if this keeps happening it's a problem but yeah ideally like build a ginormous cushion right so that when it happens you're still up in double digits yeah that's a I can't explain the fourth quarter thing Brady I don't think that any of us are going to be able to be to pontificate anything better than what Alex already gave if you have something to add there please do but I also um I'm G to send us in a different direction and I appreciate van Lee for bringing this up because this could end up being a four five matchup Orlando and Miami was there anything tonight that jumped out at you when you think about a seven game series against this team to me Orlando doesn't scare me in that setting but I'm interested um to find out what you think about this matchup between these two teams after what we saw tonight and then also taking into account the fact that Miami can't get their bleep together on in fourth quarter yeah I think number one the first jumps out is like if you're playing in a first round be prepared to run like be prepared to put up a lot of energy because that team is just going to just run you around it's like similar to playing Indiana obviously at a lower extent because Indiana is just a different past with how fast they play but you're definitely gonna have to play that style secondly you're not going to be able to have these point of attack lapses where we've seen that at so many points in this season where it's bammer bust and it it just can't happen against this team because they have so many different guides at the at the guard position and and up there that can hurt you like tonight it was Cole Anthony but then other nights it could be Suggs other nights it could be Marquel folz if he comes back like they just have a lot of guys and to Alex's point where he was talking earlier about kind of focusing on a certain guy or a certain game plan Miami usually struggles more often with teams like this that has multiple guys that could hurt you all over the place instead of like I always give the example of like Philly where yeah like they have a guy that's an MVP favorite in Joel embiid but like they could scheme around Joel embiid and figure out a certain defense style so I feel like that would kind of be the big thing as in for the fourth quarter stuff it's it's really hard to even explain like with the reasoning for it number one I'm glad Alex mentioned the fact that you cannot get away from what got you there and I feel like that's number one on my list for why it happens in the fourth quarters offensively is where they just up running what they did like if if a certain action if it's dunking off a handoff or if it's Tyler at the top of a high pick and roll or if whatever it is it's like just keep spamming it just keep going to it over and over instead of like start taking early shot clock shots and contested threes and all of that stuff like it just happens over and over and I'll say the bigger point because I know we're always going to talk about the offense because that's always what we're going to look at but this team the the reason they were so good in the clutch last year and the reason they won games and they were and they were able to pull a lot of those out was because they were so good defensively in that quarter they just really locked you up they it wasn't even because they there was some nights where they didn't even have All-Star defensive lineups out there but they still just were really good defensively they were second in the NBA in in defense in the fourth quarters this year they're 27th like that's an incredible drop off like that is an insane drop off on a team that we have said has better Defenders individual Defenders on it and you know we'll see what happens it's hard to honestly discuss that because they've just had so many guys in and out so it's hard to really quantify that because a lot of those fourth quarters did not include B bio but still this was happening before that like this wasn't just a a bam out of Bio absence thing this has been happening so they definitely have to figure it out it's definitely something to to keep an eye on but I think once they kind of figure out and find certain trends that they once they're healthy and I hate saying once they're healthy because as we know it doesn't feel like that'll ever be the case except for a one or two game span at a time but when it comes down to it I think they can kind of figure out certain defensive lineups and just hang their hat on that they they really have to because it's it just feels like that's them that's always going to be them that's always be sposed style and it's something that they they've always been good at so we'll see if they're able to do it but that's got to be the key I have some um some crunchtime stats if you want them for the season yeah give them to us yep let's do it to update the people these are not fun stats by any means if you're a Heat fan um I don't know if this includes tonight per nba.com clutch definition which I believe is within five uh points like the margin within five points uh within five the last five minutes of the game the Heat have played 15 clutch games again not sure excuse me obviously I mean excuse me this did not go to a clutch game tonight because it didn't get to five right it never got to five at any point right okay so okay so it doesn't even matter so in the 15 clutch games according to nba.com that the Heat have played this season they have a net rating uh of negative 18.5 so per 100 possessions they're getting outscored by nearly 19 points in crunch time and that includes an offensive rating of 101 and a defensive rating of 119 which is really bad the good things about it like is the the stuff that we talked about that like usually happens when the heat were good in the clutch the low turnover stuff that stuff is there they're not turning the ball over in the clutch right you can feel good about that at least that's that's happening the problem is they're not converting shots in the clutch and they're even worse defending poorly in the clutch so uh also on top of that um going back to not good things second worst rebound percentage in the clutch which is something because even though everybody wants to call the heat small and they don't rebound before this game they were second in defensive rebound percentage even though it felt like we were kind of down they they they know how to rebound as a team and throughout the Jimmy era they're a really good defensive rebounding team for some reason that rebound percentage comes all the way down in crunch time and it's second worst that's so weird so yeah a lot of things there that's so weird that the rebounding goes out the window it's like they forget how to play basketball at the end uh I'm going to bet on them to figure that out but it is concerning so far forget how to play their brand of basketball at the their brand of basketball yes let let's be clear about that because it is really um about them getting to that because once they do they're usually fine uh let's go to the Eric Rubenstein injury report and now it's time for the official five on the floor injury report sponsored by our friend Eric Rubenstein the personal injury attorney born and raised in Lauderdale Florida lives in Miami went to St Thomas he's a South Florida guy and a huge Miami Heat fan but the important thing is he can help you get your money that you deserve when something happens to you so reach out to our guy Eric Rubenstein again Eric Rubenstein decom or ask about me I got you on Instagram and now the injury report so the injury report it's been getting a lot cleaner and we like that uh it was essentially a situation where Jimmy Butler and Kevin Love didn't play tonight and those were the only two that you would expect to see that you did not see uh Jamal Kane and nicoa yovic were available were but did not play uh via coach's decision um I would imagine you'd see a pretty similar cast in Atlanta coming up uh slight chance Kevin Love could make it back but I think that they're going to be really selective on how much minutes guys like he and Kyle play um at least through the New Year if not further in in than that but the injury report is clean other than that I think Jimmy Butler's probably fine as well so when you see him listed on the injury report uh do not fret he will be fine he is physically fine uh just this is part of getting through an 82 Game season let's get to some questions before we close out we'll also take some comments and react to them Sandra olon says still terrible in the fourth Hae needs some rest we were up 22 points NBA schedule catching up with him let's be real magic couldn't hit the broadside of a barn tonight they couldn't we need to credit Miami's defense but uh M the Orlando Magic they struggle shooting the basketball and that Trend continued tonight hee needing rest has been a big narrative that came out of this game Ronald fonte says the Heat play the fourth like they don't want to lose the lead versus doing what has been working to put the game away that makes a ton of sense and I wholeheartedly agree also uh Ronald says that he agrees with Brady last year they'd locked him up at the fourth and caused chaos scoring off turnovers Ronald you know basketball any questions we got here agree by the way I I'm putting some great comments here shout out to everybody commenting um I do think that's kind of it's a great way of putting it I think probably a lot more succinct than when I was going on there about the fourth quarter that they play like they don't want to lose the lead versus doing what's been working like they go away from their process and go to playing like this what's what do they call it in football is it uh what is it prevent offense is that is that what they call it pre prevent defense but yeah it's like playing that way throughout the entire both sides yeah um I see we do have a a question here from Eddie man 420 does the Heat organization feel they need to get a point guard or still sticking to the we are position list and doing fine uh they're still sticking to the we are positionist and doing fine yeah I would I would expect that to be the case through February unless things went like really poorly if I'm being real like I don't want to like dissuade everybody from Fun Trade talk I I I enjoy it too not saying they can't use one but I think as of as as of this point in the season I'm feeling like there's not going to be a trade not now uh van Lee asks is Mr Haywood getting his job back or n Brady is he is Haywood Smith going to start again it's an interesting question I really I thought he was going to when he originally came back and I think when he did not immediately get the start back it didn't feel like a case like okay we're going to ease him into this it felt like okay we're going to try this that's what it felt like to me it felt like they were just going to try the Caleb thing uh and it almost makes sense to I've liked the the highe Caleb Jimmy minutes I like the highe Caleb minutes but it almost makes sense to kind of Run It Off the Bench with with haime and Duncan with Tyler back to kind of let them play together more so and let Haywood play with Josh at the top of a two21 press in a two3 Zone and and guard at the point of attack and a lineup where a lot of times going to be bam at the start of second quarter is kind of that that's a lot of Defense to go around with kind of two or or three hubs including bam so I think Haywood kind of stays in this range and look when he's playing the way he did tonight Off the Bench like it feels like he's another one of these guys that maybe we talk about too often of playing in certain lineups if feels like he's another one of these guys that he's just a he's just a baller like you just put him in at any point in these different lineups he's going to figure it out uh so I'm kind of curious to see how they deal with it maybe I I I honestly think they keep it this way I think Caleb keeps this spot moving forward until until there's a major need for a switch up and then obviously I think Kayla would be the first one probably to get pulled and switch it up a little bit I I agree uh concur with everything that Brady just said in terms of how they'll handle it uh uh who is this here JW jber uh perz did did my best job to try to pronounce your name there sorry if I butchered it uh do y'all think that hero should con continue to play point guard I think right now they don't have much of a choice do either of you disagree are would you categorize him as not playing point guard do either of you disagree with the notion that hero is in a de facto point guard right now by default in a lot of ways I mean I'd say he plays point guard in certain lineups and I think that's it's like select point guard like he he's he's a good select point guard at times because he did it more tonight with Kyle playing a little bit less I feel he did and it's kind of what we expected I think heading in where we talked about like him and Josh kind of just going 5050 on it a little bit but it was just I think it just so happened that Tyler was cooking that he just had the ball his hands coming P more because SPO would be yelling there is no point guard it's position lless whoever gets the ball is running up the floor but it was kind of was tonight and Tyler was that guy was the guy that was doing it but the reason I'm fine with it even more so than the fact of just the fact that they lack point guards is the passes he's making tonight and the reads he's making tonight and when he's you know not turnover prone and he's kind of controlling the ball he he's like a he's a good player to put in that spot like he has been and I think that's why I always hated this thing where like oh he's going to ruin the offense he can't play with Jimmy there there's just always these things that pop in like no he he's a really good scorer he's a really good passer and he's a guy that can get you out of the mud offensively and just be a bucket so it's like he's a guy that you could put I feel like in a lot of different spots and as we've talked about it's not that he needs the ball in his hands less I just think he's that good of a catch and shoot shooter that it almost makes sense to make things easier on him at times to put the ball in the hands of a bam of a haime of a Jimmy of anybody and send him off screens and and just make things easier for him so that's what I'm interested in yeah for the other too man I I'm so with Brady on this well that's that's a good thing we're in 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