Was Napoleon a Simp? : Napoleon Movie Review and Analysis

they didn't fire a cannon at one of the Great Pyramids of chops no they didn't no well why the heck was that in the movie why not it's aie I don't know why they made a movie somebody in Hollywood said hey look you know what we'll do we'll make a movie about Napoleon where he's this big freaking s but that makes you you just said you've been super into a woman why does that make you [Music] weak Welcome to the Real generation gap the show where we review movies old and new from two different generational perspectives my name is Shane schme and I'm Fred satelli and today we are reviewing the new movie Napoleon before we dive into the review please make sure to like And subscribe also follow us on Spotify you know if you want to listen to the show while you're on your way to work or you at the gym you could always check us out there as well uh let's get into the review somebody in Hollywood said hey look you know what we'll do we'll make a move movie about Napoleon where he's this big freaking simp I love your 1920s perception of a Hollywood guy that's great oh yeah if I had a cigar it even be better look Morty Morty listen we're going with the simp rude on this Napoleon thing okay but you know there's all these love letters that he wrote to her and stuff he he he was a s I don't see like of them portraying him as a s it seems like he was a s well thank God they finally made the Napoleon simp movie because I was hoping for the Napoleon the incredible military strategist just a guy who recovered the economy the French economy was destroyed by the French Revolution they killed Ro Pierre Louis the 18th didn't want to be the king they were let had a giant power vacuum this guy came into the power vacuum he made the country prosperous again economy everybody was eating before that everybody was starving when he came everybody was eating now everybody was doing military you know it was a military country and all the while he was super in love with this chick so why didn't he make love and art instead of soldiers but why like why why why not both he's a great General but he's also passionately in love with this woman even though she's cheating on him all the time uh I just don't see why those those are the same story it's this is I'm accepting it yeah I'm I'm AC I'm accepting that this movie was made M but I just got to wonder what the agenda was why would you make a movie like this why was it important for us to see Napoleon in this regard I've been reading history for 50 years now and this a quarter of your life right right yeah pretty much yeah a little a little but you know on the off time you know in my spare time I did it I I don't see a problem with that it's it's one it's one perspective of someone's entire life there's so much to someone's life and this one romance you think it's important for Mas I don't think it's important I think it's what the director chose to to do apparently he did I want to know why what was the compulsion to do that how did he grow up that he said you know I'm going to make Napoleon the simp movie that I I don't I don't think he said that I think maybe he said I want to focus on the Love Story here just like in a killers of the flower Moon it was a totally different movie and then they said let's focus on the RO the romance aspect of it granted this is not based on well it is based on historical context actually right but uh yeah there was a love story aspect yeah but that whole movie was supposed to be totally different they focus on the romance aspect just like this the director said Napoleon's a really cool uh General um but there's also Napoleon's this awesome general but there's also this this love story going on where his wife's cheating on him do they actually love each other do we know he gets remarried but he still writes letters to his ex-wife I think I think that's it's a it's a it's a story so Underneath It All he was a weak little boy but that makes you you just said you've been super into a woman why does that make you weak yeah cuz I was weak for a woman I'm not proud of those times that was a low point that was a low point for me when I allowed myself to be a door M yeah but it's it's reality it's real we it happens to everybody when you're in love you're in love okay well Hell's Bells then yeah and I don't see that that's it was it was a great portrayal of Napoleon simp yeah I listen I don't think this was a great movie but I don't think that that was the problem I I I'm I'm not even really sure what the problem was but I don't think it was that now the same thing happened with the historical aspects right they didn't fire a cannon at one of the Great Pyramids of chops no they didn't no well why the heck was that in the movie why not it's a it's a movie not a documentary what it no no part in the movie to say or before the movie they said everything in this movie is real they didn't even did it even start with based on true based on a true story didn't say any of that okay with that it's a movie we watch it for entertainment not for I love the movie I love the movie Sahara with Matthew MCC I watched it like probably three or four times maybe four times now it's a complete fantasy it's like an MI Mission Impossible movie like where it's a complete fantasy like like nothing Tom Cruz did in the you know you didn't go hey that's not accurate yeah right every once in a while you see like too many bullets coming out of a gun it's like 35 shots and a handgun I don't think so but but um much as I love Sahara and it's the same like you know they went crazy and I like going crazy but you can't go crazy in a Napoleon movie it's a it's a movie about a historical time and a historical figure yeah it's a movie not a documentary this is such a great conflict and you're okay with that I'm totally fine with it if it's not meant to educate you it's meant to be an entertainment piece okay and I'm supposed to be entertained by the the the little simp guy I I wasn't you're supposed to be entertained by the The Love Story okay because we're because we have this really weird difference or the battle scenes or whatever you know whatever the battle battle scenes were large largely great and the court scenes when they had you know Napoleon in his governmental Court they're in the palace there okay you know Shane I think was some kind of political agenda in creating a movie like this $200 million were spent and yeah don't not don't shake your head yet I I want to hear what you have to say but even more than what you have to say I want to hear what our viewers have to say yeah definitely I really do I I when you and I had these differences I said we're going to see this in the comments yeah and I'm eager to see that so my my statement I'll make a statement and then you can make statement right my statement is somehow someway there was an agenda to take a strong political figure and weaken him not sure why who wanted to do that I don't know who paid the $200 million for this thing but now tell me your thoughts on that idea I think there was a director who wanted to make a movie and he made that movie and there was no agenda and it just that's the movie he wanted to make that's the story he wanted to tell Ridley Scott wanted to tell wanted to tell about Napoleon and Josephine I would have you know what if they would have called the movie Napoleon and Josephine I would buy that but but they didn't they sucked Me In by making it Napoleon it turned out to be Joseph it wasn't even Napoleon Joseph Josephine and Napoleon we should find out how many rewrites there were and if there was a bunch of rewrites then maybe that was that had something to do with it but no I don't think so I think a lot lot of times in film School we've spent way too much time looking into every detail why did he hold this pen is to show dominance over the woman or blah blah blah blah blah no the director maybe just said hold it maybe he just said sometimes a cigar is just a cigar sometimes a cigar is just a cigar yeah hear what everybody else I would love to hear what the comments you know do you do you guys think that there is an agenda being pushed um like Fred said to demasculate men maybe or men should be demasculate um or do you think that it's just a movie maybe it wasn't the best movie maybe you think it was a great movie some people might some people might say finally we get the Napoleon and Josephine story finally somebody made I mean is there even another Napoleon Movie not that I'm aware of I'm sure there is maybe but I I I can't Rec not of this budget that's for sure C oh no certainly not like that anyway okay now the fact that we have these differences I think is why we're here with the real generation gap because it's not even generational it's a concept yeah right there might be young people or old people that agree with you and there might be young people and old people that see my vision of this thing but you did say you didn't think it was a great movie M so so what made it not a great movie for you you know I'm I'm not too sure it just didn't didn't move me like like Oppenheimer killers of the flower moon like those M you really didn't care about Napoleon didn't yeah something about his character development in the movie I didn't really care you know I could fall in love with an unrequited love story and he had an unrequited love life mhm but somehow I didn't like her yeah I didn't like him I I particularly didn't like her yeah yeah she was a dog yeah I mean not not in appearance she was you know a beautiful something you would think at the end they try to make their love stronger like and I feel like they tried to do that but I still didn't really like I wasn't attached to them I didn't want them to make it you know and they totally didn't and and she never felt that like she was always way outside the relationship she was like all right you do your thing I'm going to go over here and eat bios yeah and you're going to go do your thing and go you know win lose I I don't care I'm in this country house you know and I I don't think that she even imagined that she would survive like I think she kind of figured like Oh They'll be killing me soon because they killed everybody before her right the GU Mar her prior husband was murdered yeah everybody was France was just a you know hell on Earth Place everybody was starving yeah it was really a disaster and this guy came along unified the country brought back the economy he made the country great again you know how's that for a loaded statement how's that you know yeah you can have to wonder right and uh none of that was portrayed in the movie it was just he was a sad little cat who never could quite get it together with this old lady and no matter he there was even scenes in the movie where he he his motivation for an attack was to show her that yeah he could do it or something a little spiteful I yeah I didn't buy that MH because in in a in a military situation even with an emperor you have like a large cache of generals you have advisers and you have different on the ground in other words it's not just one Army like this is the 40,000 guys and we're going here only you got guys fighting over here guys fighting over here got supply line issues there's all kind of things going on and the movie didn't show any of that it was just sort of like him with his army attacking somebody I think maybe with the story was trying to do and didn't really do a great job or what it should have been I don't know but maybe um a general's love for Country overs love for a woman right and that the last three things right yeah yeah yeah I don't remember it was it was France France uh France Army Josephine right right that's they and they are an Anthony and Cleopatra couple I mean they were they were you know the hot couple like they were the whole country knew it everybody in historically you know Napoleon and Josephine yeah it's you would something you would say but um boy oh boy I really was disappointed and I think that an interesting aspect of the movie historically was he attacked Russia and the Russians used the strategy of scorched earth right they burned their own cities there was nothing for his army to live off of as they moved through and he did that and he failed right and then of course Wellington at waterl that was completely ridiculous he was outnumbered five to one so but then that happened and then let's think about how many years later that happened in about 1815 then they had World War I that was like 1915 then Hitler he had a whole different he had the lift Waffa he had a mechanized Force he had big machines they weren't going on Horseback and walking to Moscow right so I Hitler thought he could do it but guess what they Ed the same exact thing scorched earth oh really as he moved through the countryside they burned the bridges blew up the railroad tracks They did everything he no help at all from the you know everywhere he went the Farms were completely burned out there was no food to be had and he had to do it with his own supply lines now his supply lines were mechanized he had trucks bringing in stuff not somebody carrying a basket of bread you know so I guess he thought he could do it but boy oh boy yeah I if anything I learned in that movie it's don't attack Russia yeah it's really big it's really far and you know it's composed of lots of separate countries and those people all have ethnic differences and they're fighting for their Homeland on lots and lots of fronts so that was a huge mistake I I think that one of the aspects of the movie was that Napoleon had a massive ego and he just thought that because he was on the Battlefield they would win so when he attacked Wellington and and the Hans were coming or the prussians or whoever those Germanic people that reinforced him M it was like he that that was a giant force and when they came he was like okay well here now all well we had a chance but you know we're we're done and of course they overwhelmed him and killed him and it was a horrible thing so and and look guac and Phoenix I love him as an actor in Gladiator he was phenomenal and that was a Ridley Scott movie also I was really psyched and scene like this is was a great Ridley Scott scene with a great actor but oh my and they didn't show him like on the horse with the red thing or the hand in the shirt like all that classic stuff none of that was here but um yeah there that's the classic on the left there with the big red cape yeah so I mean growing up my perception of Napoleon was always that he was this short guy and he had like a big ego and he had the Napoleon complex right and until this movie I never really thought to look into it but apparently there was a British cartoonist James gilray who kind of made that persona for him right and he's British of course so that's why I've always known him as a short guy and he he made all these cartoons well he was like yeah he was the little Corporal right that but he wasn't he was average height he was 55 which was average he was 55 yeah that's not tall that was average then though in France that's at least that's what I read okay at least that's what I read okay I but there there were guys that were in excess of six feet George washingt that's that's why they called him little though because Josephine was taller than him right but I think he was average height for a man as far as I read okay well I don't care about that I I accept that I accept that he certainly wasn't a big guy yeah but he was certainly big in ego and certainly big in strategic ability and Military ability he was a great man through history but he failed so I don't know I I wish that uh I wish that they made the movie that I wanted to see so you wish this movie was more about I would guess just say more focused on him just him take out the Love Story talk about his his rebuilding of the economy and more more political warbase is that what you think would be better is a history enthusiasm I'm sorry are you having a history enthusiasm to be honest I don't watch previews I I hate previews well you can't help it you get to the theater and they barrage you with it whether you like it or not why you you see the whole movie in the preview or they make you think it's going to be the wrong thing in the preview but anyways what were we saying so I I wanted to see a movie about uh nation building and Military genius and what I saw was a movie about a sad little guy who couldn't put his love life together and then he made some military blunders and was destroyed and uh I I didn't need a movie like that so I'm giving the movie I'm G I'll give the movie a four because rley Scott did a good job the court scenes and the battle scenes you know the the makeup people and the well that's certainly not historically accurate but but um the the settings and everything but when they shot the pyramid with the cannon that was just stupid that was that was just I mean why not then why not have a guy with an M16 run out and shoot everybody why not you know have an airplane come in and strafe you know if you're going to make stuff that's not fact correct but there's been so many movies based on a true story mhm with inaccuracies I wouldn't say this is one of them and I didn't like those either yeah I I guess I don't know you seem to want something that was almost like a documentary and I think I wanted to see something that just entertained me but I didn't see any previews I refused I tried to I try not to watch preview Okay so I'm saying I'm giving it a four because of its construction not of its content you saying you wanted to see something that entertained you yeah how entertained were you what do you give I'm giving to 6.5 I don't think it was garbage I don't think it was great and it's a little better than a five it's a little better than neutral I wasn't mad about it like you were so I gave it a 6.5 I mean look at that do you know if you really said uh what' he say I found the crown of France I found the crown of France on the gutter I picked it up with the tip of my sword oh oh I have no idea that was pretty cool I don't know if it was real but that was cool right I yeah I I would have to after the cannon thing I can't assume anything but that must be that must have been taken from history I would have I didn't I didn't contest that yeah but yeah what a mess I I was disappointed in the movie and it I couldn't see it the way you see it because I I had a need yeah I needed to see a different kind of movie it didn't satisfy me and if they if they had somehow Blended this better or given me something let me ask I think most of the people who were going to Napoleon they want to see a fantastic war movie they don't want to see a love story yeah and I I I I get that um did it bother you that there was like no French accents at all did that bother you at all there was no accents Germans like not really that didn't bother me okay I'm an American I speak English and this is a movie made for Americans in America so so the fact that they did that in fact bad accents it's even worse yeah so so you're happy they just chose to not even go there I I think they had one or two like French Expressions that they might have used or something like that so yeah yeah don't fake that but uh I didn't I didn't think it was necessarily a bad movie I didn't think it was a great movie and yeah let's let's see what the comments think okay thank you for watching the real generation gap let us know what you guys think in the comments was there some hidden agenda in this movie was it just a movie we want to know I've been Shane schmeer I am Fred satii and as always guys please like comment subscribe like I just said comment let us know what you guys think please give us a like even better give us a subscription so we can keep doing these movie reviews for you guys um and like I 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