Miami Heat 118-100 Chicago Bulls Live Postgame Show

Name: Miami Heat 118-100 Chicago Bulls Live Postgame Show
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Welcome to Five on the Floor, a daily insider show on the Miami Heat and the NBA. Featuring Ethan Skolnick, Greg Sylvander, and Alex Toledo, plus others from the 5 Reasons Sports Network. We're live. We got an echo. I don't hear an echo. You don't? I don't hear an echo, but we are live. Yeah. All right. Welcome to Five on the Floor live. I'm not sure really what was going on there. I'm Ethan Skolnick. You're following me, Ethan J. Skolnick, at 5 Reasons Sports. We've got Alex Toledo. You can follow him at Tropical Blanket. We've got Brady Hawk. You can follow him at Brady Hawk. with us. We're going to do these on some of the road games this season. We come to you. The floor plan. We're talking about the Miami Heat's win against the Chicago Bulls. They avenged a loss the other night, Saturday, where they went up 22-1 and ended up losing the game tonight. Not quite as quick a start, but a pretty decent first half. And then every time that Chicago kind of pushed closer to them in the second half, Miami pushed back. They went 118-100, now 9-5 on the season. They head to Cleveland next, and then two in New York. You can follow Alex Toledo at Tropical Blanket, Brady Hawk at Brady Hawk, 3-0-5. Overall sentiments on this game, and then we'll get to our Gamer of the Night shortly after that. First thing, I like the overall disposition tonight. You lose a game like you did a couple nights ago to come out tonight. I thought that they were fairly on point offensively. I thought the process in the first half was good. They got performances from a lot of guys who did not play particularly well the other night. We'll get to some of those as we go forward. We talked about the Wings in particular the other night, that they didn't give them a whole lot. They gave them something tonight, especially three of them, and we'll get to them specifically. But Alex, before again we get to the Gamer of the Night, your overall thoughts just on them coming out and scoring 118 tonight. Let's start there. Eric Spoles just talked about 110 is the number. They went way over it. Yep. And by the way, your eye test, it's right on so far. They had a great offensive game by the numbers too. They put up an overall offensive rating of just under 130, which is in the 91st percentile and would easily be the best mark in the league if that was just their normal offensive rating. So yeah, nice of them to be able to do that. And by the way, the Bulls are not a team that's reputationally known for their defense, but they were a very strong defense last season. And I know this year it's different. The vibes are not great with them right now, but in general, they were a strong defense all of last season. So for the Heat to put up one of their better offensive games versus them is not nothing, right? Especially for them, just we know they're not capable of these types of games very often. So you take them whenever you can get them. And just in general, just looking at their shot profile, I think this is the type of shot profile you want more or less. They took 21 at the rim, 28 in the midrange, 35 from three. There's some balance there. It's not too heavy on the midrange. Of course, you would always like more shots at the rim, but it's not too bad. I've seen worse. They had a terrible finishing game against the Bulls last time. Didn't finish like amazingly this game, but they were able to actually get more shots up at the rim this time. So just in general, I think the offensive process was right. Duncan continues to look amazing. I'm still very impressed with Bam's start to the season. And just kind of going from there, I like the identity they've taken on with the lineups where you're just constantly seeing, you know, like the kind of the pairings that Spoh has seen develop here, where it's like Bam and Duncan coming in together and coming out together. And then Jimmy and Kevin Love coming in together and coming out together. And a lot of times it's like three wings around those, the pairing. So I like the identity they've taken on with their roster. I just want to see the defense be a little bit more consistent because I do think like they need to be a good defense for everything to work for them because they can't have these types of offensive nights every night. All right. Well, we're going to go a little bit off the board tonight. We had a debate about the gamer of the night. We'll tee it up now and then we will decide whether we're going to go with one person or two. 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So thanks, Eric Spolster, for taking him out the last three minutes. I will go five. Exactly. Well, but I'm going to go with the other Brady because we've been talking and Greg and I, when we potted on him the other day, we're talking about how with Jaime Hawkins, we've seen this with rookies in the past for the Heat, where something seems really amazing and really ahead of schedule. And then in a month, that seems like child's play because he's so much further along with every game. And tonight, more growth. It's not just the numbers, eight of 13 and 33 minutes again, he's playing 30 plus minutes lately, 19 points, three rebounds, four assists. He should be linked with Duncan to a certain degree because their chemistry is tremendous. I mean, they the way that Hawkins cuts off of them and they find each other and Duncan talked about that in the locker room the other day. But there are some specific things, Brady, that you've seen with Hawkins that are promising and we're seeing like growth game to game. Yeah, for sure. I have to start and say you mentioned the chemistry with Duncan and Hawkins. That is why I'm overriding your decision. We are giving co-gamers of the night. We they both deserve gamer of the night. So I'm overriding that decision to that point, starting with Hawkins. I'm glad you said about their connection because there's just there's an element of Hawkins game where you're seeing him do the things that he did early on in the game where he's just like turning the corner, getting to the basket, where he's finding a mismatch shooting over the top. We're getting to the point now and I'm going to talk about the shot in a second. But the outside shot is there. But it's like kind of the other stuff where I just watch his spacing specifically on offense. And that's what stands out to me. It's like not even the times when he has the ball in his hands. It's like when he gives the ball to Bam or gives the ball to Jimmy, he knows when to stay out of the three point line, when to rise up, when to cut and stand on that box, when it gets the middle of the floor. Like he's always in the right spot and open for a pass. And that's why he's always around the rim and able to get these open shots off like those type of passes. So definitely that stuff, Alex, you were talking about the defense before and I just like Hawkins jumps off the screen defensively. Like he's not one of those guys that just holding up like he is jumping off your screen. He's guarding these top players and he just he just does not bite like when you it's funny because it's like the opposite of his offensive game where everything is to get you to bite offensively. Everything is to just get you to move your feet, get up in the air in some capacity. It's exactly what he doesn't do defensively, like just that type of play. It's just jumping off the screen again. And the last thing I'll say on the shooting, I think it's now at eight of 15, eight of his last 15 threes he's knocked down. Like this is a real development we're watching, like we're seeing him do this in real time. And I didn't think we'd get here this quickly. Like there was a lot of things where I'm like, OK, Hawkins, the defense is legit. OK, he can get to the rim. OK, the space, the three point shot was like, OK, that's going to take a little time and they can work with that. It's here now, it seems, which is just an incredible development, just the stuff and jabs into threes, catch and shoot threes. He looks really comfortable with it. So, you know, he deserves a lot of credit. But I will quickly say the stuff we're seeing from Duncan Robinson and specifically not even X's and O's, the confidence he's playing with, where you're just seeing him walk off the court and start just yelling expletives at his bench. Like he is feeling it right now and just watching the shots he's making when he's putting the ball on the floor, the move he hit Wemby with, the kind of the backstep he hit again late in the game, hits Hawkins on the drive. He's getting to the free throw line. He's just playing an incredible level right now and they're playing well together, to your point, like those are two guys that are randomly applying more rim pressure than anybody on the team, like Duncan was began doing what Hawkins did with rim pressure. And now Hawkins is doing what Duncan did with threes. Like they're just they're just mutual players now. It makes no sense, but they play really well together. So it's just co-gamers of the night. I will allow for the overrule in this case. I'm also going to say something that's going to annoy Alex, which is which is that Duncan, can he be like a late career alpha? Like, can you, can you transition into alpha status? Alpha does mean you're playing well, a few years. It's great. Well, no, but I mean, it's what Brady's talking about here, though, because look, confidence was one of the issues with Duncan. We've talked about that. There was this we talked, we did podcasts about the imposter syndrome, the guy who didn't think that he was going to be in this position and then the pressure of it. And it looks like all the pressure has been completely relieved from him. And you're right. He's playing with the kind of cockiness. The Tyler plays with it's it's just it's crazy to see that like Max had a little bit of it, but like Duncan has grown into this player that I don't think any of us saw. Now, Hawkins, I want to say one more thing for those who haven't listened to me say this before. I'm playback in other places. None of this is surprising me. None of what Hawkins is doing is surprising me. It's surprising us a little bit that it's happening so quickly. But and I've said this on one previous podcast, I'll say it here for those listening live. They think he's a star. Like they don't think he's a plug and play role play like we talked about him in those terms because he was 22 years old and he played in these big games at UCLA. They identified star potential with him pretty much from the moment that he stepped onto the court. That's what they're looking at here. Now, whether it's not even getting offense run for him right now, like when when the team is really healthy, he's just kind of fitting in. He's playing fourth quarter minutes and consistently, and they are characterizing him as a long term part of their core with Bam and Tyler, so that's what they think of him. And that's why I'm saying in a month we may look at what he did tonight as nothing. Just like we're looking at what he did the first week of the season, which seems, you know, oh, my God, this guy's actually playing for them this year. And now that looks like nothing because he's playing 33 minutes and he's playing so well. And would you quickly before you get to that, would you say Hawkins is an alpha? I just wanted to get your take on that. Well, I think there's no question. I think there is. I think it'd be easier to say he was not an alpha on this team, to be honest. I think it would be easier to say that because then we'd have people calling us out on that. But I think by saying that Duncan is a late career alpha, I think we can identify that maybe he didn't embody that earlier in his career than he is now. But even being the alpha judges is always a funny concept to me. Now, you know, look, we talked about it in terms of Caleb Martin last year, and obviously, you know, we're going to talk a little bit more about Caleb here on the podcast, but I want to transition to something else here, actually, because it was mentioned and we've discussed this on previous podcasts that like we're taking BAM for granted now because in the past, when BAM had this stat line, twenty three, eleven and six on eight of 14 shooting and just 30 minutes, he would be the gamer of the night. Now it's like, OK, we're going to go find somebody else another day. But I do think it was important tonight they didn't get away from him and he didn't allow them to get away from him. There was that time I was at like the third quarter, guys, where it was getting away a little bit. Maybe it was early in the fourth and he attacked off the dribble. I mean, he got the ball and went, which was the kind of thing we didn't see him either get the opportunity to do that or have the inclination to do that in the previous Chicago game. And to score one eighteen when Jimmy is four of eleven in twenty nine minutes, it just shows that the depth that they do have on the roster when when things are clicking. I want to get to a couple of other guys before we get to the play of the night, because I think we've identified who the play of the night is going to be tonight. But I don't want to overlook a couple other players. Kevin Love tonight, eleven and eight in 15 minutes. Alex, are you settled on the fact that Kevin Love is the backup center for this team at this point? No doubt. No doubt. Now, the only thing is I could completely imagine Brian getting some minutes throughout the season again, just because like we talked about plenty of times, like just to have love fresh for the playoffs. But as far as who is your best option as of right now, like I don't think it's even, you know, a question. I just think, you know, Brian is like 10 years younger than him and has fresher legs. And I think he's kind of an innings eater for the regular season. But love is is ultimately the better option. I don't know if I want love to be the permanent backup five just because of that, because I want him fresh, you know, to play that role in the playoffs. I mean, it's a vital, vital role. Like if you're having love in those minutes as opposed to Cody Zeller or Dwayne Dedman or Thomas Bryant right in the playoffs, like I think that's a win. So I want him fresh for for that sense. Not that I don't want him playing now, I'm just prioritizing, you know, that that time. But he's been fantastic for them. And even though he's not considered a strong defender, he is a much better you know, he's a much higher impact defensive player than Thomas Bryant is at this point just because he knows where to be and actually gets there on time. Like he gets to the spot on time and draws charges. The rebounding is there. We already know what he can do with the outlet passes. And most importantly, what I think differentiates him from Bryant on offense the most is just the ability to space the floor. Like I think it's paying off in dividends where, you know, that pairing right that I was talking about before where he comes in with Jimmy at one point. Like I think that's intentional. I think Spoh likes those looks where you have the spaced out floor for Jimmy and then you just have wings alongside that unit. Like I really love the way that this roster has developed together. And by the way, I think Bryant could actually be decent in those types of minutes as well. The paint might be a little bit clogged, but we've seen Jimmy be good with like a, you know, a simple like pick and roll backup five center in the past. Like he had that that pairing with Zeller. There was at one point he was good with Deadman early on. I wouldn't be surprised if they will be OK if they just didn't play two other bad defenders alongside Bryant at the same time. Brady, I just want to blitz through some other guys before we get to the play at night. Just give me your grade on them this evening. Kyle Lowry, eight points, five rebounds, six assists, three of six on the floor in twenty seven minutes. It's funny because you started there. I was actually going to ask you about him specifically just because we always talk about with you, you with Kyle. I thought he was really good tonight. Like, I thought he actually controlled things. I thought he's been on a little bit of a consistency in terms of impacting the game, in my opinion. Just the stuff he's done defensively. I feel like he's been in the right spots, moved around, drawn some charges, but he's gotten BAM in the right spots, which is something we talked about, obviously, when he first came to the team that was going to open BAM up scoring wise that we just haven't you know, you don't need that anymore. But he's still like starts the game. Kyle BAM pick and roll hits him right in the elbow, knocked down a jumper. You're just seeing him push pace. The play where Kevin Love throws an outlet past the Kyle Kyle throws an outlet past the Jimmy. Jimmy ends up getting fouled. And it was a clear path. Like, he's just making a lot of really good plays. So I know you just said blitz through it, but I'd say that's like a that's a B game for Kyle, in my opinion. And obviously, the scoring is what would kind of bump it up. Hale and Martin tonight, two points, one of six, 21 minutes, five rebounds, two assists. Are we seeing him shake any of the rust off? Before you go, here's my one thought on it. You and I talked so much last year about the way he attacked closeouts. And there were two situations tonight that I thought he could have attacked and did not. He didn't shoot either, but he kind of backed out of it and it took a dribble and he does not seem right now to totally trust his body. That's what it looks like to me. And then there's also this idea of kind of working in with others. What has been your thought on him? Was it any better tonight in your view? It's weird because I feel like he's trying to get the rust off. But he's also in lineups where I feel like he's trying to find his role because his role was kind of what Hawkins is doing now. And he's in these lineups where when he is attacking off closeouts, the paint's a little congested at times. And I've noticed that where there's kind of that extra help defender there and what wasn't there in the past. Where in the playoffs, it was like one-on-one. If he got past his guy, he probably had an open lane right there. So I think that's part of it. But it's also just trying to get the rust off because it was not played basketball for a long time. Yeah, he played here and there in the preseason or the beginning of the season, but it was not real reps. We haven't seen that true Caleb-type game where he's kind of doing the things that we've seen. And even the three-point shot has kind of not been there. So that's also a part of your legs. If you don't have your legs underneath you fully, you're going to be short on a lot of shots, which he has been. He has been short on a lot of shots. So it's one of those things, though, I will say I'm not really worried about. It does not feel like something because I've seen moments defensively where I'm like, okay, he's moving well. He's had, specifically last game, actually, he had a couple in the press where I'm like, okay, he's cutting people off perfectly. But I think we're going to get to a point where we're talking about his role and what specifically is asked of him in these spots. Because there was a lineup today where I was actually wanting to see more of it, I'm curious of it, was Jimmy, Jaquez, and Caleb. That's an interesting three to have on the court together. So in theory, if you can work it out offensively, yeah, that is a perfect lineup you'd want defensively. So I'm interested in that part of it. I think the clock's ticking on him a little bit, just because Tyler's getting closer to coming back. We'll handle that in the last segment of the show. But Spolsha played nine tonight, basically, I mean, Orlando Robinson, Drew Smith got in at the end. He's going to have to play a 10th. And but we'll see when he does that, how much the other shrink, right? I'll handle these two. And then we'll go to the play of the night. Heywood Highsmith, I thought tonight was fine. Three or four, one of one, one of one from threes, another eight and one with Haywood as a starter, had seven points, two rebounds, played solid defense again. And Jimmy, I mentioned earlier, four of 11, 16 points, three rebounds, six assists, was able to mostly take it easy tonight. But since I'm not going to name it, the play of the night, I do have to mention that's all time, like to basically call out Skyhook as you're shooting a Skyhook. It just feels like the whole regular season is one troll exercise for him, but it was enough tonight. But now we're going to go back in time, actually, to like 2017 for our aggressive play of the night. And now it's time for the insurance by Lynette play of the night, sponsored by insurance by Lynette dot com and a aggressive insurance agency. You can reach out to our friend Lynette at nine five four five eight one eighty eight hundred. That's nine five four five eight one eighty eight hundred or insurance by Lynette dot com. That's insurance by Lynette dot com with two N's and two T's. Your best play for auto insurance, homeowner's insurance, condo insurance, life insurance or retirement program. Reach out to Lynette at insurance by Lynette dot com. All right, Josh Richardson tonight in 30 minutes, which is significant. For twelve on the field, two of six or three, four rebounds, tennis is I thought he actually played his play, played really good defense tonight. He's settling in there. But Alex, the putback dunk, we were deciding what was going to be the play of the night tonight. Yes. This is not where I thought you were going when you said time machine back to twenty seventeen. What do you think? What do you think I was going to go with? I thought you were. You were referencing Kevin Love. I thought that would be like thousand thirteen. All right. Well, OK, let's we'll cover both of them since we haven't talked about Josh dual play of the night. Just like we had dual gamer of the night. All right. So. So you the override. Which one do you want? You want love or Richardson? I'll give Brady the other love. Love. I'm going love. Take that. That's a hate on Josh. Josh has been good for them. I'm glad he's kind of stabilized. And, you know, he feels like he deserves a rotation spot, whether or not Tyler's back. I think they should play 10. That's a different topic. Kevin Love, man. And my reaction on playback, which, by the way, for anybody watching right now, check out the games with us. Watch with us live on playback dot TV five hours and or download the app. No subscription needed to come hang out with us. You can watch the game if you do have a cable subscription. Watch it at the same time as us or just watch it on your TV or wherever you're watching. Right. And hang out with us. No subscription needed. Right. I had a crazy reaction when Kevin Love had that step back. It was just I was not expecting to see that coming. And it's just it was funny to watch them go at Nicola Boosevich all night tonight. I was saying like, bam, his eyes were like widening every time he saw Boosevich on him. And, you know, Banners from North Carolina, he knows good barbecue chicken. And that's what was going on tonight with Boosevich and Kevin Love. That's he turned him right into some fantastic barbecue chicken with that move. Like I really was not expecting that he just hit the brakes. Kevin Love of all of all guys hit the brakes and created an insane amount of space with that step back. So shout out to Kevin Love and shout out to good barbecue chicken that set up that barbecue chicken take since playback for about 40 minutes. Brady Josh. We're shopping it live. I mean, Brady was like four when Josh Richardson got up that high the last time. I didn't know that he could still do that. But just in the context of his overall play tonight. Wow. Yeah. I'm glad you didn't go to Kevin Love for me because I wasn't born when Kevin Love was doing the stuff Alex was mentioning. But look, the athleticism on that putback, like number one, the fact that they this is the most athleticism that they've had in a long time, like just in terms of the lineups they're running. And I'm like, there were I'm not to get away from what I'm about to say. But there was a play where Jimmy ran the break with Jaime and he threw him a bounce pass on a two on one. And I'm like, just lob it up like it was a free lob for Jaime because he's going up on that. And I feel like there's points in this game on this team where they're like, they don't realize the athleticism that they have. Jimmy himself is an athlete that they don't utilize that athleticism. But as for everybody else, it's something that you have to utilize and that Jay Rich kind of getting up on that that putback was kind of the thing that got him in a flow. I'll say like it seemed like that got him a little bit more comfortable. And as I always say, he's a rhythm guy, not that he had the most efficient, but got him a little bit of a rhythm. And the one thing I'll say on Jay Rich, and I keep saying it, I say it during every game after every game, when he hunts for the elbow or free throw line pull ups, that is when he's at his best. Like when he's settling for these catch and shoots or pull up threes when he's getting to the rim, like, OK, like you need all of that mix in. But when he is like, OK, I want to get to this spot on the floor and rise up like that is his shot. That is his area on the floor. So if like they could find ways there was actually to play off that putback there, there was a play in last game where they were kind of moving them off the baseline where they were kind of running him in that area. They sent them off a curl where he caught it at the free throw line and knocked down a jumper. If they can get creative with him a little bit and just find ways to kind of really master that mid range, I feel like that could do a lot for him to kind of find a flow early in game. So that's something I'm looking for. So they've got nine guys that Eric Spolich is playing a lot of minutes right now, and this other guy is going to be coming back pretty soon. Let's set up our injury report with Eric Rubenstein. And now it's time for the official five on the floor injury report sponsored by our friend Eric Rubenstein, the personal injury attorney born and raised in Lauderdale, Florida, lives in Miami, went to St. Thomas. He's a South Florida guy and a huge Miami Heat fan. But the important thing is he can help you get your money that you deserve when something happens to you. So reach out to our guy, Eric Rubenstein, again, ericrubenstein.com or ask about me. I got you on Instagram. All right, so if you subscribe to us on off the floor on our new discord, which we recommend you do, it is here in the description on YouTube and also on the podcast feed, and it's always pinned at the top of the five reasons Twitter account. You would know that Tyler Hero has been getting closer because we've been signaling that and that he was going to get the boot off this weekend actually was in the I was in the locker room last time they were home. He walked in without didn't seem there didn't seem to be any swelling or bruising and his ankle was exposed and it looked like he was comfortable. And so, again, it was just a matter of kind of ramping up. Now, he put out this video where I think everybody overreacted to it because they thought it was like today or yesterday, but it was actually from the very beginning of the process. And he's pretty far along in the process. So do I expect him to play in Cleveland? No. I don't really even expect him to play at either of the two games in New York, either the game on Friday night, on Black Friday against against the Knicks or Saturday against the Nets. I do think there's a strong possibility that he could play when they come back against Milwaukee. And remember, there's significance to that game because that's also one of the in-season tournament games and he'll be here at home. So I think it makes sense that they leave him here. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if he plays in that particular game. So, I mean, let's just throw it out there because we're going to do a whole podcast on this again. And we've done Tyler here, a debate and all that stuff. But right now, you've kind of already said it, like you think this fellow should play 10 and maybe he will. But even if he plays 10, is it is it Caleb's minutes now? Not Josh's that he's going to be taking? Because you can't really cut loves much more and it's a different position, right? I mean, you're not cutting Hawkins. It doesn't appear no. And Josh, I don't think Josh plays 30 when Tyler's back, but like he did tonight and Jimmy didn't play that as many as usual either tonight, which allowed Josh to play more. But I don't think they're taking Josh's minutes when he's just sort of rounding into shape. It just feels like Josh is a little bit further along in the process than Caleb. And so he's the one Caleb's going to be the one that gets kind of nicked here with the minutes. Do you guys agree with that? Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I'm not 100% on how exactly that it's going to work, because I wouldn't be that surprised if Spoges went to a nine man. I do think this roster, it would serve them well to play 10. Like I think with Tyler back, you have a 10 man rotation that you're not just like putting together. I feel like that's a 10 man rotation you feel good about. It's not like you're reaching and trying to say a guy like Jovich or Jamal Kane or somebody who hasn't been playing consistently is in there. It's 10 guys you feel good about and you trust, I think, if you're Spoges. So that's why I think it just logically it makes sense. You don't want to burn out the guys you're going to depend on in the playoffs. And I think they all deserve to play, frankly. And so how exactly he works it out, I'm not sure. Like I'm just looking at it now. I agree. I don't think Josh is going to stay at 30 minutes. There's going to be some nights, right? Like there's going to be some nights where he is. And I think that's the beauty with this roster. And you've seen it in the way the lineups that played out where they're playing just bigger at multiple positions. But the beauty with having, you know, kind of multiple different wings with different skill sets is that you can kind of pick and choose who closes on any given night. And I know sometimes it's kind of easier said than done. It might be kind of. But it's a good problem to have if you're Spoges because you don't have to just depend on one wing, right? Like like in the past, you might have just had to depend on Caleb. And if he's not having a good night, he's still going to be closing. That's not necessarily the case. And I think you can pick from Highsmith. You can pick from Hawkins, Josh, Caleb, like he and just kind of figure out the minutes rotation amongst those guys. And that's me being, you know, it's me giving a cop out answer saying I'm not exactly sure how it's going to work. I do think Josh will play less. I think you're right that for the time being, Caleb is going to stick around where he's at kind of around 20, 21 minutes. It doesn't seem like, you know, again, just everything you guys were talking about earlier, the legs doesn't seem like he really has his legs all the way under him. Like he's making plays here and there, but he seems conservative. He seems like he's playing conservative based on what we've seen from him in the past, especially like the closeout stuff. That was maybe his biggest strength on the offensive floor as far as like where he had his highest impact for the heat on the, you know, offensive side of the ball. And I'm just not seeing it with him. So yeah, I think that's kind of the trend happening right now. But Caleb just kind of ramps back up into shape and is playing like himself again. I could see him being the guy who plays more. So that's, you know, Spode doesn't have to go one way. Like I think he can kind of pick and choose depending on who's playing better, who gets the minutes. I think one of the things that they could do if they can replicate some of what they did tonight is in some of these games that they get up enough, they can play the other wings down the stretch and give Jimmy a break, which would be nice over the course of the regular season to not have so many clutch games and be able to close with Caleb, Josh, you know, Hawkins, et cetera. And then obviously have Tyler in the mix real quick here, and then I'll sum up everything and then we'll take a few comments here on the chain because we are going we did go live tonight. If I didn't mention that at the very beginning, we will do some of this on some road games going forward. But Brady, is it in your view, if he goes to nine or nine and a half, is Caleb more likely to get than Josh? Right now? Yes, because I think they have the excuse, to be honest, where they could say, well, we're still trying to get Caleb back to 100%. He's still trying to work into things that we're going to let him kind of just find his flow. But I think eventually it will probably be Josh. Like I think they're going to get to a point where we talked about the guard thing. Like I'm watching, I was watching Heywood Highsmith bring the ball down the floor today. And I'm like, I was thinking to myself, like, we had these conversations about them needing a certain guard and everything like we're watching Heywood run point guard. I'm like, okay, that does not matter anymore. But yeah, I'm watching just in terms of the as good as Josh played today, in terms of just finding his spots at certain points and kind of giving an energy. He still feels like the guy that is most forced, if that makes sense, like within the offense, that it's kind of not in the flow of things at times, that they're going to eventually fall on what works and what they Spoh likes to run within the movement stuff. And I think it's going to be Caleb over Josh. Like I said, right now, they have the excuse level to kind of just cut Caleb's minutes down, not not playing at all, but cut his minutes down. And that's why I really do believe it will be 10. Look, even Tyler's not going to be playing 40 minutes when he comes back. They're going to ease him in as well. So it won't be a problem in the first week or two. It'll maybe in a couple weeks. But let's be honest as well. Looking a couple of weeks forward. Are they all 10 guys in the rotation that we're discussing going to all be available? Probably not. That probably won't be the case. So all this that we're discussing probably won't even end up mattering. But I think we do have to have the discussion when fully healthy when things look well, you just open the can of worms that I'm not going to go dive into anymore here, which is Tyler's minutes when he comes back, because that could be used as an excuse to bring him off the bench. Also, and you're searching where he's at. And so that is another podcast topic. I'm just going to get to some comments here real quick. We thank our sponsors, Aggressive Insurance, Rock Esports Center, and Eric Rubenstein. I'll just take a couple of these. Broham, Ethan, go back to your Jovic take from earlier. I did a little video on Jovic on the YouTube channel, so you can check that out. Do you think he's more of a fit for the next build rather than this one, since it doesn't seem like Spoh thinks he's ready to contribute now? I wouldn't get into the whole this build, that build and all that. I don't think he's going to be a core piece of what they do this season. I don't. I think that he's a situational piece going forward, and I think there'll be some opportunities. This comes in from Van Lee. People were panicking when Tyler got injured. His three weeks has flown by. The fan base is now fretting his return. That's what they do. We're hearing all this stuff again. I think that Tyler makes them better. Just have to stagger the lineups. They'll figure it out. This comes in. A comment from Alex Toledo. Alejandro Villegas, our producer, puts up a comment. Who is Alex Toledo? Hawkins should be aiming for all-rookie first team. I think he's on course for that. Well, Thompson in Detroit, obviously. Wemby, certainly not Scoot at the moment. And Chad, I think those are givens. And from David Rivera, Hawkins playing over Caleb and Highsmith in the fourth is amazing. This is a feature, not a bug. Hawkins is going to be closing games consistently for this team this season. They absolutely trust him. All right. Thanks to everybody. We're 35 minutes. We're getting the heck out of here. Have a good night.