WHEN ZINEDINE ZIDANE MET LIONEL MESSI

Here we are with the 10 A little magic there Because besides you know it's a pity that I couldn't play with you But well today for me is the time to give you a tour I came from far away but it's a pleasure being here with you and being able to talk a bit about football Because people besides sometimes just want to talk about soccer More soccer than you know nonsense First of all it's also a pleasure for me I greatly admire you We didn't have the luck to play together We don't face each other much I say And then as a technician and I player I always expect respect and admiration For everything you have done and continue to do I have something PID for you I remember we talked about something else yesterday 报名 But well here I have it Oh look I remember Very young What was it at the end 2007 2008 2008 You had 2008 how old 18 19 years old I have it This was in Madrid Did you go to Barcelona Yes I remember With 12 years in Madrid with me and Raul And for the young people do you remember the number 10 What does the number 10 mean to you Well I'll start For us the Argentines 10 is a very special number because I'm going to talk about 10 and automatically Maradona comes to mind All my life We who grew up with football We wanted to be like him Although later no one ever became like him the illusion and desire was always this to try to gather What Maradona did the number 10 the player we admired saw beyond age Because I saw Diego little How many did you have And me when Diego went to Juve which was already in his final stage almost I was six seven years old I don't remember just like in the 94 World Cup I was also I was young I don't remember much obviously I later saw Diego and he explained what it means for us Diego Even though he hasn't seen it For us who had never seen him before he is our reference our idol our And besides he is impressive I have respect for Diego That as you said is for the whole world not just the Argentines because Maradona as you know was an idol for everyone for all the world What you have done seven golden balloons It is very beautiful For us Diego is something very strong that will continue to be so for many more years and I have no doubt about that As I was present I tell you it will go from generation to generation because my children as I was telling you before We know Diego without ever having met him by Diego for what we told you of course for us it is very important your figure for everything you represented for Argentina for how we are Argentines But also at a global level as I was saying It's true that he was number 10 when he was little we all wanted to have the number 10 e team was The leader Yes he was always the different player different that's true We all thought were the different player even though we aren't We all wanted to have the number 10 really when I was little Today I don't know if it's as much anymore Today I don't know if it's still the number 10 It's true this is what we talk about with people today less important than before as you said that 10 today also the place Much is lost they play 4-3-3 4-4-2 the 10 as if A position they had before which reflected that it was the 10 the playmaker the link as we call ourselves Now there are many teams playing 4-3-3 and they are more inside or the 4-4-2 formation also doesn't work It is true that it falls a bit Good that you're still playing that there's still the 10 He is a bad 10 But it's true that our 10 for example which always characterized the Argentine 10 The media punta the playmaker Riquelme Aymar there 's not much of that anymore or there isn't it's been lost a lot And your kids how are they My children love them they all love the three of them they are passionate about football He likes the number 10 position the small ones you like he's up there he scores goals you already had to be bor With the madness of a goalkeeper you like the arch but generally yes the beauty is scoring goals it's up there But they are little but they are always with the ball Does Tiago turn 11 in November 11 Matthew 8 and Cyrus 5 And all three play Yes they are famous And for me because they played in Marseille it was Enzo Francesco Oh really I heard it many times yes Well even one of your children is named Yes it's named Enzo because they played in Marseille and I had about three Before going to Canes where I started playing and he was playing in Marseille and I said I want to be like him because he was very elegant How he played how he handled the ball too I mean this isn't seen not seen much Yes well I also saw that Sure weren't I also a kid back then but in the time of River they won everything too Because he's a idol there right Yes they love him River Well and for now he's still at the club working And I was also lucky to meet him and they were people yes But yes even back then at River although I was young I remember it was crazy already and it was also I don't know if it was his last stage at River or Yes We in France well they 're usually just French there weren't many foreigners and when Enzo came The American we saw that it was another soccer you know Different And he played there doing things with the ball I said this is a magician And I wanted to do the same Well I always said that I watched a lot I really liked Aymar Well they ended up playing with Enzo too Then came Valencia of course A player whose way of playing I really loved He was also at River where he had a great team and he stood out a lot And well going back to what were saying before taking out Diego Diego was a special case and for us first Diego and then the rest Pablo was a person who greatly admired as a player Even back then around that time as a kid he didn't follow European football that much Obviously as you grow up In Europe right But at that time it was all very local Argentina And well Pablo And you came to Barcelona with how much I arrived at 13 years old But the year It was 2001 2001Yes 2001 They were talking a bit about the number 10 about the evolution of the number 10 what characteristics does the number 10 have to know which ones are Well a bit of what were saying before I think soccer itself also changed a lot the way of playing the systems Where they are already small they start playing 4-3 or now it is often used the line of 3 or 5 back and there the number 10 is We were talking about it before that is very characteristic it does not enter into that system or it is difficult to fit in In a formation of those players Well as far as I can see and what I think But the position of 10 is what he needs to have It's a bit of magic like you because he is the team leader and the team leader has to create that' s what you had and what you have Different from the others is that you see before the others The 10 has to do that ree before three safe before others I one But that's what makes the difference for me the way you are different from others it's that when people the players see what needs to be done before receiving the ball You already knew what you were going to do and that's little and for me 10 has to represent that that a team player a team leader does that better for the team He was also passing the ball a lot through the 10 before he was passing the ball a lot through the 10 or carrying all the weight with the ball always Always the weight of the team We look at it Do you feel it has a different weight To wear the 10 Symbolically it's different I don't know if it's as important today in numbers as it was in another era but obviously the number 10 is still a special jersey that's true It's true that when you put it on the 10 there's more pressure but to the one who knows nothing happens I suppose I mean to the one who knows Who doesn't know if you give him a 10 it's harder and for me When it was my turn to be in Paris I didn't have the 10 well I was used to always using the 10 For many years in Barcelona the selection although it didn't bother me and nothing happened I did miss a little having my number in quotes Because I had worn it all my life but then I got used to it too because the 30 was also a jersey significant to me I started with the 30 I made my debut with the 30 and it had something special about it The number 30 was only for you something special but people just want to see Messi with the 10 if I see Messi on the field I want to see the 10 behind him There are players for example in Madrid you had Figo with the number 10 but it didn't matter because in the end the number 5 was the one I liked I have liked everything the final story is important that's what he does in the field yes he made you important on the 5 yes but it was also strange to see another one as well No it's rare to see a midfielder wearing number 5 but you know what happened with that with Florentino who was the president He doesn't like players who are 25 30 or 35 He was from an era like the old ones where the goalkeeper was number 1 Then Sánchez who had the number 5 jersey Sánchez a defender who was at Madrid let him go and the president when I told him there He said no I wouldn't like that have a number from 1 to 10 and you have it and I say yes yes I take the shirt number 5 Because he didn't want 25 30 I mean no this isn't soccer but if this is American football then in the end He was not even a lesson more or less what was left yes he would say please to me and I said okay on the first day I will say yes But in the end the number 5 is special for me now because it's history for me with Madrid and well in the end 10 is good but the -Mar 5 is also good e 21st to Juve I don't remember much because of the number you know you told me the 21st but I didn't remember muc You have to describe Leo in a few words for a moment something that comes to your mind no it's just magic but really because in the end And what I like is that we '`re not together every day with Leo but today is an important day for me to tell him how much I admire him There is all the people who like football and they like it and it's magic for me Magic in the sense that he knew what had to be done and especially for me who understands football to see someone on the field I almost knew what you were going to do you know how the connection is but when I see him doing what he does on the field I say this is it then the people He is a player few there are but like him not many very few good one And you Leo if there's something that comes to your mind no well I do it's not because it's here present but I've said it many times For me he is one of the greatest of all time Always I always admired him I always liked him I followed him a lot at Madrid I suffered a lot for him at Barcelona I remember the era of Madrid's Galácticos the European Cup they won the great team they had how well that team played and the players they had but anyway he was always a different player elegant art magic he had it all and I say again it's not because he's here Because I've said it more than once that for me it's one of the greatest of all time well I have many memories of him I remember well the goal by Leverkusen in the Champions final the goal by Zurda that makes the World Cup goals the finals of Brazil The typical roulette of the step there are some players Valencia I think that ended up scoring a goal that ended up being a left-footed finish Okay these are things that people who like soccer care about I enjoyed it and I Beyond suffering it because I am was and am a Barcelona fan but the great players already leave the team the country And it was beautiful to see him and that entire generation of player of team that they had the French national team that became world champions cts also a great selection with great players but well he was Different player The most important thing is to be an example inside and outside the hook What ideas from the coming generations Well the advice is Take advantage of the opportunity that a player can have because we do what we like playing football which still shows to everyone today but I have been away for quite some time now That is to the people to the guys to take advantage of the opportunity they have and not do silly things to focus on what the football takes He is 15 could be 20 years old as I read that extends his career and is for the good of football for the people But I say that to all the guys at sometimes you can have two or three but sometimes it only has one chance and you have to take it I think that we do As I've said several times personally and I think it's also the case with him because of the type of player he was were affected and were lucky But then beyond that there is an entire work a responsibility a daily routine where we made all that journey to try to achieve what we achieved Enjoying it I think we always handle it with respect with humility what they taught me personally as a child in my home I think that's the most important thing as he said the opportunity and above all to put some sense into it because there are many people who have a lot of talent but many give up along the way because it's not just about talent but also about work effort sacrifice respect and luck Luck is also needed in the world of football because everyone wants to play football it is the most desired sport by everyone but opportunities are few but it's an example because he's still playing it's an example for all these people because his life is this it's football and family Family and football that's all I need For me it was a way of life I knew exactly what I wanted to do I enjoyed it since I was very young I loved playing ball and my mind always went through first soccer and then everything else until I had my family my children Obviously that is above anything else but after that football is part of my life so I always repeated it I did everything possible to be good To enjoy it you also have to say it Even if you focus it won't be the same but waiting is good Think that you can do what Leo does in the field people can dream but it will be difficult it's the same I think it goes through everything Also not only in football when one has a dream a goal the only way is to go after it and fight I think in the end Things come along and obviously on the way it's hard and you stumble many times but things happen for a reason and in the end Whatever is going to happen you keep doing it until you understand that it's part of this it's part of life where you don't always win where difficult moments are experienced moments of injuries which also happen to people in their work in their daily lives in their everyday life And this is life: getting up trying again fighting again for what you want and not everything always goes as you intend But always give your maximum to try to achieve the goal I think if you give your maximum and try then the result is secondary Obviously everyone wants to win we always want the best but as were saying before there are many people who play football many teams many selections And that things don't always happen as one would like but to add something He also has Messi Leo which is about trusting himself when you're in a bit of a tough spot he knew that I mean he's going to come out a moment he's going to come out and he gave the confidence and especially for others you know it's that when you have Leo on the field others are happy and he had that Say no I don't worry I'm here have confidence in yourself that's important when you're a bit in difficulty and that what did you choose score a goal in the Champions League or the World Cup any goal or the World Cup would you like to score a goal in the Champions League or the World Cup it depends It depends on the moment but it is always special Both in European competition and in a World Cup obviously in a World Cup it's always more special because of the context and what it means but it depends on the match You might get hit by a goal in the final but okay I can answer for you because you did it recently against Argentina in the final Of course that goal obviously was there What was missing was this goal in the final of the World Cup I think it's the maximum no we can both say it of course it's just that it's not Who is the toughest player you've ever played against The toughest well the toughest Not tougher but more difficult In the sense that he was very good I didn't mean to hit you but it was harder than I thought Pablo Maldini was very smart very intelligent on the field Because sometimes he was facing him and well Turam also but he really lasted You judge with Turam clearly sure but this Lilian hard strong but when you have him on your team you are happy he's upfront But in the World Cup he also had a great team in 98 everyone had many players who played in the best teams who gave your first ball My first ball is dad my dad and the boots too the World Cup but more than the ball My dad gave me but the boots I remember perfectly because they were very expensive and the good one put in a little money to buy me the boots today I was just talking about She was talking to Seba Saja that were training and were talking about that sacrifice that parents make oday I as a father have the luck and the time The effort and sacrifice parents make for their children the trips to take them to train without rest Come from work and run off to one side to the other over the weekend to take you anywhere to play do you remember that I think your dad always took you along Many times my mom would take me too because my dad couldn't because he was working but I remember my dad At 4 or 5 in the afternoon and as it was arriving they had a quick mate and weren't going to train and play and train And so almost the whole week and it's a big effort for all the parents who do anything for their children and well this is a sign that there are many such parents What they do anything for their children to have a shoe a ball a game you'd want to play again you don't need They are all very good you don't need them I think as I said a little while ago that things happen because they have to happen and I don't regret anything Throughout the journey and the path I had to take I was lucky to have many joys also sadness along the way For not having achieved the goal but if it happened that way it's because it had to be that way but even so the thorn from the 2014 final the world cup Well I could draw it a bit then with this world cup well you did it in 22 but so well You changed the story it's already Wow difficult What would you say was the best game of your career Well it's the same It's complicated to choose one Oh well there was a game But when were in Turin for a match against Ajax in a Champions League semi- final we won 4- 1 and there was a 4-1 there And it's good for me because not many people remember e World Cup Brazil value Make a great goal or a beautiful pass which do you prefer I can answer for you I don't like either but sometimes a pass It's more beautiful than a goal many times a nice pass ends up being better than the goal and sometimes it's pleasant to make a good pass and goal You scored a lot and you made many goal passes a nice small gift at shirt is it no 's little it's a little thing I would like to pu Thank you very muc errible terrible T-shirt this T-shirt was nice yes I stuck it on very nice T-shirt the last world champion thank you very much