Saliba is NOT world class! | Rice's passing ability! FT Jordan Jarrett-Bryan

Oh Like the big man here right just said there I'm pretty sure I speak for every Arsenal fan We're still riding the wave of beating Manchester City. I've got a big special guest in the building Jordan What are you telling me bro? You good? I'm good, brother. I'm good. How are you? I'm good, man I'm good. As I said, I'm still riding the high of the Arsenal City game. Let's get straight into it, man What did you make in the game? I thought the game was a low quality, but well executed Performance. So I think that to go into the game for full disclosure and transparency I predicted a City 1-0 win and I put it to the 1-0 win deluded because I a Wasn't confident that we were in a good enough rhythm to be able to overcome a City team That also was in a great rhythm But I just think it was more about us not being in a great a form wasn't bad But it wasn't in our groove. The midfield was a little disjointed Yes, I wasn't and I think when you play City, I think you have to Go into the game with a little bit of a groove I didn't I didn't sense that and my other reason was I didn't I still don't think We're ruthless enough in both boxes and I think against City. I've seen it in previous games. You can play Well, I remember the game two years ago the Emirates they beat us in the 93rd minute at the Rodrigo We outplayed them that game we deserve to not only get a draw We just have to win that game eluded but that shows me that doesn't matter No one cares if you're not ruthless in both boxes. It doesn't matter Yeah, man and I wasn't I wasn't confident that in our box we could keep a clean sheet at home and In their box the few chances that we would get we would take But it turns out that actually you don't need rhythm going into the game With rhythm helps, of course it helps but you just got to on the day perform I didn't I missed the games I was doing I was doing an event but I watched the game back afterwards and I think people are correct in saying the quality of the game wasn't particularly high But my rebuttal to that deluded is a who cares? I think in that particular match that that didn't I don't care if the neutrals were entertained or not I don't care about that too many of those games really and she's right and then lost and then the second thing is I'm more important than that deluded is that's how you beat City. You can't make an exciting basketball game You can't make we've done that and lost you can't make it a game that's entertaining to the neutral You can't make it a game where you dominate the ball when you create four or five six chances That's never gonna happen against Manchester City You have to make it a game where the margins go your way you have to make it a game That's almost boring. You have to make it a game where you work hard You're defensively switched on you're defensively disciplined and when you do get your chance you take it now look the goal is lucky Let's have it right. The goal is lucky, but it's lucky in a sense of the strike was lucky It was a flukey shot, but it wasn't lucky in terms of I think we'd earned the right you make it Oh, yeah, but you do and you work hard enough to be in a position where by 80 minutes a No, no, it's not a bad result, but you put yourself in a position whereby you could nick it too many games But I've seen us play City before deluded where it's over at halftime. You haven't even given yourself a chance It's over in the dressing room really at times that's what was so nice to see a bit of belief It's over So for me it was it was lucky in terms of the strike was lucky But I don't think it was lucky in terms of we allowed ourselves to be in a position whereby the worst-case scenario Was a nil-nil that would have been a good result, but that's not a bad result But we you know, you don't shoot you don't score me. We've got a bit of fortune on the strike So my nice of the game was it was low quality, but for that particular match I don't mind that on the topic of it being low quality Why do you think it was was it as you said, you know Both teams aren't really necessarily firing or the inner Coggins of the team are not firing Was it a case of our Teta and Pep kind of cancel each other out? Why do you believe it was a low-quality game then? You know because the incident, you know The money neutrals probably would have went with City win But there was a lot of people that regardless of whether Arsenal won or lost there was three twos and two twos I'm pretty sure you spoke with your bredrins and stuff. Everyone expected a lot of goals, really I definitely I share your opinion. I didn't expect to win. I didn't expect to keep a clean sheet much less at the Emirates So why was it a low quality kind of a fair fee in that regard? I think it was two teams as you mentioned there They were kind of cancelling each other out because they were like two You know, those scenes or those films or those blue pads, you see two lions They're kind of like looking at each other and just walking the circle around each other Just eyeing each other up like I'm not going to pounce but I'm on this thing if you want to pounce Oh for waiting for the first move Yeah, and nothing ends up happening But both lines are on job I think it was a little bit like that I don't think for either team it would have been terminal or defeat I think it would have been worse for us had we lost than it was for them But I just think it was a game, it was tense because it was a match where I think Arsenal From Arsenal's perspective, I think they half knew We're not going to get a better chance of beating City They've got their two best players out I would say the two best midfielders in the league Yeah, yeah, arguably I don't think anyone would disagree with you Forget their team, the league So we're at home They're not fully in their groove We're not going to get a better chance Because the chance of us going to the Etihad and winning are pretty slim So we're going to win this title, we've got to beat them here We've got to at least beat them at home So I think that kind of transpired into a nervousness and a tentativeness That saw us not play our fluid best We're not playing our fluid best anyway, but that for me is intentional That for me, and I'll get to that in a second, I think that's intentional I think from the City perspective, A, they were missing key players B, their form isn't amazing Their form is good, but they're not in their groove either And I thought, and I think this was kind of played out in the last 10 minutes Just before we scored I think that they would have, even before the game, taken a point And that sounds very un-pep-like And people would say, no, Pep always plays for a win Maybe he does It's a marathon, isn't it? It is, and I think they probably thought We're not playing particularly well at the moment We're away at Arsenal, probably our biggest challengers It's early in the season Just get a point Just get out there a point We'll beat them at Argaff in February, March, whatever When we're really in the groove, we'll handle business then But for now, we'll take a point We haven't got our best of our first 11 We'll take a point And I think that contributed to how they played Which contributed to, I think, why the game was a little bit stodgy And a little bit of a, you know, poor spectacle What do you make of Mikel Arteta? Because obviously, you know, I describe his line-up and his subs More so his line-up as high-risk, high-reward Now, obviously, his hands were kind of tied In that there was injuries and things But many people would have seen Jorginho Definitely after the Spurs game and thought, what's going on there? You've got Partey on the bench But I think personally, Arteta got everything right From his subs to the free subs That obviously made the difference, including Martinelli So for Jorginho's start What did you make of that, really? Because the line-up has to have shocked you in Port Royal to a degree It didn't, you know, it didn't delude it It didn't surprise me One, because like you said, what more could he have done? Partey didn't have 90 minutes in his legs So he couldn't have started, nor could Martinelli Them guys were fit enough to play But were they fit enough to start? So for me, even if you disagree with your selection My question to you then would be, well, what could he have done? His hands were tied, yeah 60% Partey at the start Do you want to put in a 60% Partey against City? I don't know if you want to do that He's going to end up having to come off Exactly, and then maybe exacerbate the injury even more That he's out for a month So I think the line-up, I wasn't surprised by the line-up I thought that Jorginho's selection was really smart And I was calling for Jorginho to start against He was on last league game, Bournemouth And people were saying, you mentioned the mistake against Spurs That can happen, it was his mistake, it was his error But the mere fact that he's an experienced season player Was the reason why I was comfortable with him coming back in And as it turned out, he played very well I'm a big fan of Jorginho, I think he's got flaws But I think in the right system, with the right tactics Jorginho is a phenomenal player I think if you expose him, if you don't put legs around him And if you ask him to play in particular games You're going to look bad And I don't advocate him playing in certain games But I think the Arsenal fan base don't support him as much as they should Because A, he's ex-Chelsea B, he's not flashy, there's no step-overs Or there's no top bins, or there's no nutmegs He's not one of the best centre-mids in the world, arguably That we'd love to have in our midfield Yeah, and he's just not flashy But what he is, he's intelligent And what he is, he's experienced Yeah, and I think that gets underrated by, I think, fans in general But Arsenal fans Will he concede a few goals because of how he plays? Yes, he will But I think overall, the net positive for having him in your team In certain games, as we saw on Sunday Is that in a big game, he's been there and done it He knows what he's doing The Tottenham error for me did make me think Oh, don't put him in again It was an error If he was a youngster and made that error I might have some more reservations Because a youngster wouldn't know how to bounce back from that And deal with that But he's not a youngster, he's been there and done it Yeah, to go into your question about Arteta I think he got everything bang on, as you said I think it was a masterclass, let me tell you why I think, and I was saying on the Forever Arsenal podcast Through the Boys, leading into it They were all crying, and I'm sure you were too, Deluded They were all crying about Saka Oh, what was he thinking? I mean, I wouldn't say I was crying But it definitely was a bitter pill to swallow But I'm of the belief of, regardless of players Just get on with it with injuries It happens to everyone We just have to get on with this It is what it is This is what I was saying And I was OK with him playing against Lons Because unless it comes out factually that he was injured Before that match Play your best team This idea that we can go to Lons And just play our B team and get a three points away It's disrespectful We're talking about some big European giants out there And it's the Champions League We've been at the party, Deluded, for six years Who do we think we are? We can just rock up to Lons I agree With our GBGP team And walk a three point No, you play your best team And worry about City on the weekend That was my mentality So I was comfortable with Saka playing in that game It backfired I'm OK with that That can happen But my point was, as you just said I don't care about Saka I don't care about Saliba I don't care about Jesus My interest going into the Man City game was Michel Arteta Your record against Pep Guardiola is embarrassing Do something different That's the gamble I'm looking towards Do something different And he did What he did was As we said earlier on He didn't make it a football match He recognised that If I go toe-to-toe with this team Even without De Bruyne and Rodri I'm going to lose It's going to be peak, yeah It's going to happen We're going to lose And we're going to potentially be out of the title race Before we even start So he did something different He realised that Boy, in terms of a metaphorical speech to the fan base Today it might not be exciting You might have to just hold this one today It might be a boring one But stick with me If my team work hard And we're structured properly We can get something from this match And he did And I think the goal that we scored Is down to coaching as well That's not a fluke It's not a fluke to all four players You look at what Tom Iasi was doing there as well 100% Right The height and the physical and aerial presence That was planned So for me Arteta gets a lot of criticism A lot of people call me a nutter to fanboy I'm not You're not alone I get the same stuff you get me Yeah When he Sorry, I can't swear When he messes up on When he messes up the looted I'll call him out He's not my brethren I'll happily call him out I don't know the guy And this is what people don't understand Like there's no shame in supporting the manager But not just supporting everything You know, again I have a lot of time for Arteta I think the man's the man I think he's got a lot of faults I think he I think the faults are massively outweighed by the positives And when he gets tactical things wrong I'm one of the first to ask questions But it's high risk, high reward I'm sure Pep Guardiola's got many things wrong You know, I agree with your point with Jorginho I think there's certain games like the City game Where it's more of a tactical battle off the ball And it's a quote-unquote football game You can get away with that Against first, he shouldn't have come on There's just too much areas to defend And too much open pitches So I share your opinion on Arteta, man And your point about Jorginho is true as well But one thing I've noticed is I'm not sure Unless it's for the last five minutes I don't know if you could bring Jorginho on as a sub I think because he lacks athleticism And he lacks legs He has to start games to be in the rhythm of the match He's got to get into it, yeah Yeah, I think if you throw him on As we did against Spurs Where the energy is already high And people are kind of up to speed You're throwing, you know You're throwing a guy that's not got legs In with guys that, A, have legs And look at that midfield It was... It was Sumar, Maddison and someone else, still It was Sumar I remember the last one Yeah, yeah The man had got legs And then the fullback's inverting and whatnot Exactly And they've got 45 minutes under their belt already So I think unless you're bringing him on for the last five Maybe ten minutes I'm not so sure Jorginho works as a sub Because I just don't think Unless you've got the ball And in the Spurs game That was a back and forth game Yeah, it was like a tennis match He's not about that life He really isn't He's not So I think Arteta's tactics on this game Were perfect And people will say, oh yeah But they didn't have their best team That's not our problem That's their business So he didn't play as good as he had last year He was injured We didn't have our best team then That happens And even on the game On the Sunday itself No sack up No margin only for half the game Part A, not till later on So it's not like we were in there with our full eleven You could argue Timba might have started that game Had the injury, many wins, the goal never happened And they're a better team than us And you could argue We're more likely to feel the effects Of not having key players than them As I said earlier I don't really care about injuries Because everybody gets it I think with City's injuries It shows that while they're near enough invincible Injuries can affect everyone But fundamentally you have to get on with it, man You mentioned something kind of earlier I want to go back to it Like how pivotal do you think this three points Is in the title race? Not very pivotal I think what was more important Than the three points diluted Was the psychological belief That I think it will give the team I think getting the monkey off their back That we can beat City in a meaningful game I think will be more valuable than the three points And I also think the damage it might do to City And look, I could be wrong here I think it might make other teams look at City And think, okay, we can try a thing here We can do something I might come back on your podcast In two, three months' time diluted And City have now got an eight-point gap And man, they've got to work on it Yeah, we're talking about something completely different They've done one of their mad runs And I could be monkeyed off here Because before, I've said this before And they've monkeyed me off before But I think the psychological impact That it should give the team Is more valuable than three points Because at the end of the day, I think we're still Only two, three points, four points ahead of them Yeah, there's nothing to scream and shout about really There's nothing separating everybody really Especially in October We lose to Chelsea diluted And they win their next game It's back to a point, do you know what I mean? So the points aren't significant for me in that sense I think it's the fact that we know now That we can beat Manchester City I'm a big believer in, you can't really be champions Until you beat the champions I think only three times in the Premier League era Has a Premier League team, has a team won the Premier League Without beating the team in second Or the previous year's winners So it just says that if you want to be the best You've got to beat the best And I think now we know we can do that I think that psychological lifting of Come on boys, you can do it And without your best player That should really spur the team on Now, for me, my kind of mindset the next day was You started off this pod by saying You're still riding the wave of that win The next day I was over it I was over it and I shouldn't be Because the fans should be able to And that's how I want the players to be, what you're saying This is what I'm saying So for the players now, it should be Celebrate that night, next focus goes to I know we've got an industrial break now, Chelsea Because if you lose to Chelsea The win against City almost doesn't mean anything anymore It's that one step forward, two steps back So we haven't actually moved, really And also, as you'll know, Deluded You don't really win titles by beating the other big teams You win titles by beating everybody else You win titles by beating the little teams Let's start with Chelsea Let's start with the little team, Chelsea I like this game How about we start there, do you know what I mean? So, and Chelsea are kind of coming into a bit of form now So that's not going to be an easy game Our record against them is good But let's not get complacent Move up in the City game But use that belief to know that What if we can beat City? We can beat you Simple as that And for me, it's a thing where I agree with you I think you've got to be looking to take, in an ideal world Anything from three to six points off title rivals And I have liked, in general, the fact that We haven't been perfect in any of the three games We've played against the top six But we've either, what? We've beat Man United, beat City, drew with Spurs We shot ourselves in the foot But we've lived to fight another day You've got two options You either beat City twice or take three to six points Or you'd be perfect for 36 games Other than the two you play against them As you know, it's impossible I don't think that will happen So I agree with you in that it's a psychological battle What did you make of Saliba and Gabriel? Because I don't feel Gabriel is, you know Outrageous Saliba, rightly so But I think Gabriel doesn't get his credit But it is lovely to see Saliba bully Haaland really and truly Well, the man down the street is saying that The real man of the match on Sunday was Gabriel I know that Rice and Saliba got all the applauders And rightfully so They were phenomenal in that game But boy, the real football purist The people that really know ball are saying Gabriel was slightly the best player on the pitch, you know He doesn't get his flowers Enough, man He doesn't And I'll be honest, again I was saying in podcasts I was doing pre-season I would actually drop Gabriel from the back four And my back four would have been Timba, Saliba, White Um, who did I have right back? Tomiyasu? Yeah, I think it was Tomiyasu That would have been my back four for the start of the season Now, Gabriel had a good year last year A very good season last year And I'm not necessarily anti-Gabriel I think he's a good centre-back But there were just things in his game that I just thought If we're looking at the fine margins to win a title I think I just couldn't see him being a Premier League winning starting... He just has an error in him And not even that Because when people say, oh, he's got an error in him Maldini had an error in him Every defender's got an error in him Do you know what I mean? Man or human? Yes, I find it weird when people say he's got an error in him Everyone's got an error in them The issue is, do you have two big errors in you a season? Or do you have six? That's the difference Yeah, yeah, that's the massive difference So for me, the fact that he's got an error in him Wasn't the reason why I was coming for him It was more, I think you're a good enough starting centre-back To get a team top four I'm just not sure if you're good enough to get a team to win the title Now, is Matip good enough to win a title? Well, he won one So is Matip significantly better than Gabriel? Eh, he can debate either way So as long as you've got one bad boy centre-back Which I think we do in Saliba The other one doesn't have to be as good Just needs to be able to complement him And that's where I think he does really, really well I think Gabriel has definitely this year been better And I find it ironic that I was calling for Gabriel To be dropped at the start of the season And then what, the first few games of the season Yeah, he had to hold bench Yeah, I was saying it as this thing of This is what I would do I didn't think Arsenal would actually do it Do you know what I mean? And I think there's some tactical reasons why there's that I think because Timbo's injured I think he wants to get He wants to kind of have a different back four sort of thing So I think Gabriel is a very good centre-back And I think he's starting to get the flowers that he needs now But I need him now to be a defender that Over the course of the season I can count his errors Yeah, serious reliability, yeah Do you know what I mean? If I can count your errors on one hand A couple of games where you were like Then I'm cool with that If he starts getting to the point where I can't even remember how many errors you've made Because you've made that many Then it's a problem I'm in trouble You're in trouble, man And I think that the complementing of the two is really important Saliba is, they call him the Rolls Royce He's the classy one He's the one that He's running really fast But doesn't look like it He kind of glides He's very gracious with it, yeah He just glides, do you know what I mean? And I think Harlan experienced the fact that Look, I'm not really here to fight you But if you want to fight I'm down And that's what I like The little nudges and all them dark arts in defence That needs to be done I'm a good kid Who's that rapper that said You're a good kid Stop pretending like you're a Stormzy Stop pretending like you're a good kid Stop pretending like you're a bad boy It's like Saliba saying to Harlan I'm a good guy Like we can be cool But don't push me But don't push me, Bertrand I hope you really know who you're frightening, man Right Let's not do that Do you know what I mean? And when he tested him I didn't want to do it But I had to put you on your backside Yeah I didn't like that about him Whereas Gabrielle is the opposite He's just on smoke He's just always on smoke He's just crazy And that can be detrimental sometimes Because sometimes You don't need to always be on smoke Sometimes just do the stuff Just calm down, yeah Just relax, bro You don't need to kick a man In the back of his neck Just intercept the ball, bro Do it Do you know what I mean? It's alright I heard the comparison Which I feel was apt Saliba's the Rolls-Royce Gabrielle's the Range Rover Yeah And that for me was like Yeah I kind of see that Yeah And I think what's important I think people underestimate this What's in front So Rice is now in front That triangle That's right Is really, really Oh, man That is a threesome We've had defence before We've had good defenders But if they're not protected And they're constantly being exposed And hit at It's only a matter of time Before they let goals in So I don't think we should We should take Rice out of that That kind of combination as well So, look I thought they were all brilliant On Sunday And that is the area of the pitch Where I think you have to be Really good To beat Manchester City Because that's where they That's where they play their game They're intricate playing And the irony is Deluded that People were talking about Rodri missing the game And he was obviously Going to be a big miss I think De Bruyne Was the bigger miss Yeah Haaland would have loved To have had De Bruyne Someone that could make Things happen like that What they were lacking was Exactly What they were lacking was Someone that could Just had a little bit of guile And even though the game Wasn't great Someone that could Just get the ball And thread Thread They had no one That could thread Yeah So I think in a weird way We only scored one goal We didn't pepper them So did they really miss That defensive shield Not really What they did miss Was someone that could Get on the ball And do something mad And really ask questions About defence Yeah I mean I think that triangle Was brilliant I mean I'm going to ask you A question now Go on Declan Rice Because When I talk about Declan Rice In the highest terms Gassing Burp I think he started His Arsenal career Brilliantly well Really well I thought he was Arguably the man That matched him On Sunday Like I say Some are saying Saliba Some are saying Gabriel Court He's underrated Now I'm saying Look Nah I'm saying look I'm not I'm prepared to wait And be patient And even believe That that ceiling For him on the ball Is there to be To be better But stop telling me On the ball He's brilliant Because at the moment I'm not seeing anything On the ball That makes me think You're a ball Playing midfielder Now I want to be clear As well When people When I talk about When people talk about He's good on the ball Anyone can do that I've seen Gabriel You're in England International You should be doing that I like it from him But you should be doing that I think he's a pro I think bursting In the middle of the ball 30-40 yards Is not a skill That's something That most players can do What I'm talking about In terms of on the ball Abilities are When the ball's at your feet Can you spot a pass When the ball's at your feet Can you manipulate the ball That's what I think You can learn from Jorginho Someone he said he looks at That is what I'm talking about When I talk about On the ball Technical abilities I mean that I don't mean Can you drive Through the middle Most players Can get on the ball And drive through the middle That's not That's not difficult to do So I was really interested To hear if you Which I think you do Agree with me that All the good things He's doing right now I love But all the things That I said He was good at At West Ham What I was told was From the Arsenal fan base And the West Ham fan base was Oh on the ball On the ball Like he's I'm like okay Alright And so far I'm not seeing On the ball Now like I said I'm not wowed On the ball By Declan Radcliffe By any imagination And I'm not even criticising Neither are you No same I'm not saying that He can't get that In his game I'm just saying Let's not pretend Like it's there now Because it's not Exactly That's why I said Next year I think We'll see that kind of stuff If I'm honest with you There you go And my last question For you as well No Neither do I But I have to ask Manifold is world class Fing around I mean world class Is objective right So I'm not going to argue With someone who says He's world class But for me My bar is high You're talking about World class Nah That's a serious bracket It is man I think And I think World class is not also This is what people forget And why I disagree with A lot of people Who say he is World class isn't just about Your technical capabilities That's a big part of it Leadership All the other stuff It's that as well But you know what it is as well It's time It's been two years How can you give a man World class After two seasons Now if in those two seasons We did two trebles Then he's contributed To a madness Where okay You're operating At a high level Is this first year In the Champions League Oh sorry Did he play Champions League football For Marseille I don't think he did For Marseille I think he played In Europe for Marseille Like Europa or something So In fact tell it like He might have actually Played Champions League Football for them you know I just have a funny feeling He did Anyways he played in Europe If he has Yeah if he has I'll take that back But world class for me Is also about It's about a pedigree Of time It's about Looking back over Four or five years It's a catalogue Of body of work essentially It is man It has to be deluded You can't just say A man's had a great Six months He's in Premier League Team of the Year And he's world class No World class Man is chatting about Saka's world class Saka's not world class For me Not yet I think he will be Right trajectory I think he will be But right now You can't just say For two and a half years He's world class Saka's putting up 30 goals a season And that's a bad year For him Yeah man is saying He's bottled it I don't want to praise That guy who went To Bayern Munich But him the same These guys are putting Up numbers And competing At the top level I know we love Our boys But let's just relax They're putting in Very good performances But there's no trophies To show for it At the moment And there's no time That's gone by How can you call a man World class After two seasons They've got the ability That makes me think They will be And for me A factor in calling Someone world class Is can you do things That others can't do Cool Do I think Saliba Can do things That other centre backs Can't do Yeah I do I do But I also need to Team tested At the highest level Over a period Not just one good run In the Champions League As well I need to see Consistently Telling myself You know what A man's been doing this For a high level now For three, four, five years So no For me he's not world class But that doesn't mean I don't think he's Highly talented Or can't be world class But at the moment You've got to work A bit more than that To kind of get World class from me It's a weird one for me In that I do think He's one of the best Centre halves In the world I think it's similar To Saka But when I look at world class I mean we'll be here all day Listening to prime centre backs Do I think right now If them lot were still Playing in their prime He can match up to them Of course not I think he's on the right road I think he's following The right Sat Nav I think he's doing The right things When you listen to Actually how Saliba speaks I guarantee without knowing him If you speak to him himself He won't tell you He's world class I don't really like To use the international scene As a somewhat yardstick Because it can be A bit political But he's not You know How we really call I'm keen to see him Kind of excel Away from Gabriel Because when he does Make appearances For France You can see him Kind of getting flat footed I think he can learn A tiny bit off the ball I actually think Saliba For the colossal defender Physically he is Can improve in terms Of his heading But I think they're On the right path Similar to Saka They're doing the right thing They're consistent They're making the difference They've signed new deals So we're laughing So I'm with you I think we've just Got to let the man Show and prove And there'll be a day Where I always describe it Sooner rather than later If Arsenal keep going To where they want to We're going to be He's going to be One of the first fingers That fingers are pointed at Really and truly When things are going Kind of left Similar to Liverpool With Van Dijk Van Dijk might have A faultless game For club and country He's the first person He's not a leader He's not this He's not that But I think Saliba And I actually believe Gabriel I think Saliba's ceiling Is higher But I think Gabriel's Potential is really underestimated I think they're In the right scenario It's just a case of As you said We've got to let the man Show and prove And there'll be a day When I always describe it Sooner rather than later If Arsenal keep going To where they want to We're going to be One of the first fingers That fingers are pointed at Really and truly Because you look at our team If anybody was world class They arguably wouldn't be At Arsenal We're trying to build A world class 11 And that goes for the Manager and the team So it's an interesting one I know I said last question But last last question If I let you get out of it What's your feelings In relation to the Chelsea game then? A week or so Before we Or two weeks Ooh Can I have it As Darby Man said He could be on the bench If we don't have Darby I think that This break has come At a good time Because I think Saliba Pulled out of the France squad So he'll have 10 days off now Psaka pulled out Of the England squad He'll have 10 days off now I think Martinelli Yeah you're right I was just about to say I think Martinelli Lost out as well And Trossard So he'll have 10 days off And Trossard So if you can get Two of those four At least Fit to start Against Chelsea You're in a good position It's at their gap Isn't it It's at the bridge Yeah yeah It's down for a bridge On the 21st of October 5.30 or something Our record Is actually quite good There in recent years But again Well it was Exactly But let's not Rely on that Like records there To be broken And Chelsea Are coming into A bit of form I think The importance of this game And really kind of Start flexing our muscles I don't look at the table I look at the table On three parts of the season 10 games Christmas March Exactly Those are the three times Of the season 10 games Is enough games now To be able to Look at Okay Who's bedded in Who's not What are we playing this year What's our formation What's our structure You know Who's surprised me And should be starting And who's let me down 10 games Is a good enough time To settle Right Christmas is halfway Through the season now Okay Are we in this race Are we looking like We're not serious And then March is like Right That's when you decide These title contenders Yeah It's like who's serious now The business end of the season 10 games to go Who's on this team Who's really Really looking Across the line So We're not at 10 games yet I think for me It's about Being in the pack I said at the start Of the season If Everyone was talking About Arsenal For me deluded The challenge At the start of the season If I was Arteta This is what I'd be saying To myself And maybe the team Give me 85 points That's what you need To be looking at Maybe even that If you want to talk About a title Yeah The thing is I'm saying Just get me 85 And then we can go From there Because 85 means That you're at least In the race 85 means You've taken it To at least The last 5 games Of the season But if you can't put up 85 points You're not in the race Let's at least Be in the race Come the end of April So that's early May So for me The Chelsea game Is important as far as I want to start a run But it's not Terminal If we lose I think what we can do Is put them back In their box We can put them Back in their box Because they've had 2 or 3 games And they're looking Like okay They've been starving For 3 points Now they're excited again Right Let's just put them Just relax guys Top 10 maybe even You know There you go Just get in the top Half of the table first And then we can Just relax Don't give them Any impetus To think they can Really join this Big boy race So I think That kind of Has to be the mentality Whether we win it or not Actually it's hard To kind of say that Based on I don't know Who's going to start And who's fit We'll be the favourites Even though we're away We will be the favourites And I think now It's about flexing Our muscles Do you know what I mean We are a big team In this team Do you know what I mean So we've got to go To the bridge The loony And be like You know what We're good away From home anyway So we've just got to Keep that away run going Be defensively secure And we've got Guys up front That we know Can do a job There's a question Finally around The January window Whether we need to Bring in a striker or not Or do we just wait Until summer And go big I'm not sure We can discuss that Maybe after Christmas I think for now It's just about Asserting ourselves As one of the front runners And I think if we can Get a win at Chelsea That would be Quite a difficult start You know To have Chelsea City and United In your first ten games Of the season With all the injuries And all the other stuff Three of them are at home Granted But that's four Of the big six Yeah Only Liverpool We haven't played Of the big six So far this season That's not an easy start To the season So But you know I think We can