Doja Cat Is Doing Great While Eating Spicy Wings

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Doja Cat is a Grammy Award–winning artist and certified hitmaker with close to a dozen Billboard Top Tens over the years. Her fourth studio album, Scarlet, is available everywhere now. But how is she with spicy food? Find out as Doja Cat takes on the wings of death and discusses hip-hop legends like Busta Rhymes and Missy Elliott, extols the virtues of going bald, and makes some Last Dab–inspired art.
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It was really hurting for a second and now it just hurts a little bit and I'm doing great
Hey, what's going on? Everybody for first we feast. I'm Sean Evans and you're watching hot ones
It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings and today we're joined by doja cat
She's a grammy award-winning artist and certified hit maker with close to a dozen
Billboard top tens over the years and she's likely to add to that total with the release of her fourth studio album scarlet set to
Drop on September 22nd attention demons and paint the town red the latest singles doja cat. Welcome to the show. Hi
What's going through your head as you prepare to take on the hot ones gauntlet? Are you at all nervous going into this?
No, not really. I'm kind of but can I curse? Yeah, let it fly
I'm kind of a pussy, but I'm not like I don't know. I'm I'll do it to myself one time
I'm the right. Mm-hmm
Mm-hmm. Thank you
Thank you. I'm hungry
And that was great. It's great. It's fantastic
Amazing. We'll take that
You know, I understand that the working title previously was hell mouth
I'm curious
Can you pull back the curtain on the internal?
Calculus that goes into naming an album like is it something that you labor over for a long time?
Or is it more spontaneous the first shirt? Yeah, definitely
It's something where like I I don't care about
The meaning being so deep as much as the word being a cool word
I like, you know, I I just like I like good words. I thought hell mouth was cool
Because it it meant something I forgot what it meant if we Google it we can it's like the mouth of hell
Yeah, it's like it's like a gate. It's like the gates of hell, but that felt so aggressive to me
After a while and I like I don't know if I even like it anymore
and I changed my mind constantly and scarlet felt like the right thing to do because
It's kind of an ode to hot pink
I did a name of a color, but it's not really it's sort of like you don't think of scarlet
You think of it as like someone's first name and not as a color
But that was kind of the twist to it and also red is just a passionate shade of you know color
Yeah, that makes sense to me. All right, Doja Cat are you ready to move on here to sauce number two?
Yes, I'm leaking. I know and then just be careful. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I know cross pollination issues
It's been it's been awful for this this last week. I yeah, I my eyes been leaking a lot
Good thing you're here on the show today. It's extra terrible
So this one a blistered shishito and garlic, that's fire
Whoa, I don't want to be like a monster on camera
But I might be there you go. Just just dash. It's good
Just dive in
What role did bananas and Leimert Park play and shaping you as a young performer?
And then how would you describe a typical show for then teenage Doja Cat? Oh my god bananas
bananas
Bananas
It's just a blessing to be able to perform for no matter how big or small the crowd is
Bananas gave me that opportunity to express myself
And I've had some shows that will haunt me for the rest of my days
and not for like any other reason other than like
my wig was always sliding off the back of my head and like I remember that and I like like used to cut my wigs
myself and
Is there toothpicks? Oh, yeah, we got we got everything covered over here. You have everything covered
Any sort of hurdle someone has hit on this show. We try to problem-solve in the future, you know
I love that back in the day. It was just you know
it was all about the music and I didn't you know have the means to
You know
Have a great glam team that I have today. So
You know look at you now, yeah, thank you no wig at all
This is really good. I have a meal plan
I kind of I like to sort of tweak on days and you know go back to my plan, but this is great
This is our cheat meal. This is my cheat meal. Yeah
So it feels fitting that you're making your triumphant return to bars in 2023
and I was really interested in a quote that you had in a
2019 interview with Elle where you said we need people are open to doing something with theme something with a cartoonish twist
What do you see as the role of cartoonishness in rap music? I think the correct words
The words that I could have used that would have been better were like campiness. I think like
When I don't know rap back in the day was just a lot more
I don't I don't even think it's it's better now or better than it's just like I I get very excited when I see
rappers who
are interested in their visuals in a way where they're ready to kind of
do something new and
Twist things and do something camp. I feel like Busta was a pioneer his fashion back in the day was just
Ridiculously good and cool. I don't know if he knows
He's cool. Yeah, and I feel like Missy is another big one
Um, who else
Left eye is a big one. I mean really I feel like everybody was doing it really really well back in the day
So, I mean those are just a few that I can name off the top of my head. It's good
It kind of tastes like a delicious foot
You know when things are smoky or have yeah, yeah, yeah a little earthy little yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever smelled cumin?
Just like alone. Yeah. Yeah, it kind of smells like a foot her pure foot
It smells like body odor, but there's something kind of it's fine. I want it in my food
You know
What's the key to a good vocal fry in your opinion like from a sound engineering perspective?
Is there anything special that goes into making that unique?
Doja Cat airy sound I feel like
Raspiness when talking is frowned upon
But unless you're Joey Diaz
Good reference when it's in
Music, it's great. I think it's useful. I think if you have
Not not everybody's voice has to be buttery smooth and and perfect for whatever that means
But um, I don't know. I've been able to make use of my vocal fry
I also pick and choose when to when to use it. I think my voice like right now
I don't think I have any vocal fry, but there's moments there's days where I'm just like up here. Um
You know an old lady
Another thing that happens is if I have headphones on and I hear myself I can kind of take control of my voice better
I think I'm trying to be quieter when I hear myself in my own ears
And so then my voice kind of goes here and you get that little bit of like a fry
When I when I go lower and lower and but yeah, since I'm talking up here, you don't get any fry
We're halfway through. I'm very proud of me
You should be and you oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah the first one
First one if I say fuck you, I don't mean it like that
It's alright. I've been I've been cursed out by some of the most famous people in the world, you know
And I've become accepting of it, you know, like I get it. I understand it, you know
Come on, but still going in still going back for it though. Yeah
That's fine. That doesn't faze me. I'm just scared for the next maybe the
The next next this one was kind of jarring up front, you know, it does have that that layer to it, you know
yeah, the violence I
forgot
What in your opinion is the golden era of music videos and if you look through the tea leaves?
What do you see as the future of making them? I think you know what?
It would be nice to explore pulling back a little bit because I know I I put myself
Through a lot of stuff when it comes to my visuals
Like attention for instance
I'm wearing jeans and a t-shirt and a jacket and some jewelry and my makeup's not I don't have prosthetics
I don't have a wig. I'm just me. I'm very comfortable in that video and that was
Such a nice break from kind of the hell of having to wear plastic bras and like
Seven-inch platform, you know what I mean?
So that was really refreshing. So I think you know what as far as like the future of my videos
I do want to pull back a little bit
But not be lazy in that sense I'm crying I know that's the show and it's just and it's just my left eye and
And it's on this day had to have it on this day. It's not the wings, too
I know it's always how it lines up. There's no way I know
Um
Maybe just tissues is there to yeah amazing. We got it all I'll keep the mirror and I'll bring it back to you. We're done
Motherfucker
Whiskey smoked ghost
To be fair. Yeah, there's an even dispersal. There's a very even dispersal. Yeah
Yeah, we care about the little big things here. You know, I remember back in the day
It used to be
They'd dab it on there and like a little there'd be a little puddle of the sauce in the center of a bear wing
They used to hurt my soul. I'm glad that you guys have a ball this far Wow
So you're like back back way back. Yeah
Yeah, I've been watching this. I'm addicted to the internet. You're right. Yeah. Yeah, what's like your weirdest YouTube rabbit hole?
Um, oh
Man, I love this question. I also hate it because I can't think there's so many things
I was on a Steve Wilkos
out of the legend vendor
YouTube poop has a lot of interesting YouTube poop. So do you know what YouTube poop? No, no, no, no idea. So yeah
it's a subgenre of
YouTube comedy and it involves taking
what I like it most when it's a talk show and
You go in and edit it to make it sound like someone's saying something that's like super like
crass and like
crazy and like
Like there's some dr. Phil
YouTube poops out there that are some of the best ones and
I keep going back to them, but it's a very deep rabbit hole and there's a lot of bad ones that aren't funny at all
That's good, it's chill
It's about the hate. Yeah, so hard. Yeah, that's the thing
Sometimes is you talk about them and it's almost like they hear you. Yep
Yeah
How's my lipstick? Is it? Okay, it's not doing that build up on the inside of the lips
All right
Fuck we here at first we feast
We're really excited to read at a
2021 cover story that you did with Rolling Stone that you dream doing a cooking show in the vein of action Bronson's fuck
That's delicious. Do you have an elevator pitch because you know, you have a home here if you still need one
Um, I really wanted to do a cooking show, but I got so much shit going on
I know I know I got him. I want to make music like I let I love to cook
Love to cook they make fun of me all the time when I cook because the way I cook I cook like a cartoon character
And like I'm kind of extra
But
Yeah, I wanted to do a show cuz I was making these sandwiches
It was like like Wagyu and Gruyere and so yo, yeah. Okay. So yeah, so people know about it
I was making these sandwiches and they're really good. They're really rich, but it's kind of the only amazing thing
I know how to make
All right, Doja Cat. This is the moment when you walked in you were like is the bomb here? Yeah, there's a reputation that
Precedes
And it is that time
Yeah, don't say are you gonna bite into it? Yeah, I'm just gonna dive in this is the kind this is there's a there's a
Threshold and I'm not stalling. There's a threshold like where where pepper is
Like a delicious flavor. Mm-hmm
Each pepper is unique and has an amazing new flavor to it
And then there's the peppers that all taste the same because they all taste like hot dirt
Yeah, well, I think this one might exclusively use hot dirt
I don't even need to bite do I have to bite into this it kind of I don't even need to bite into this
I'm already there
Bye. Bye
There we go, there we go
game face on
Penis pussy and the party has started
That's good
It doesn't get worse than that. What are you talking about?
That's all right
So, you know one of my great favorite simple pleasures in life is running a frozen eucalyptus towel over my head
Oh my goodness
You've had the bomb before yeah
Fucking you up. Yeah every time the discomfort that you feel
The discomfort that you're going through I catch it every single time, you know
What is the question? Okay?
One of the great simple pleasures in my life is running a frozen eucalyptus towel
Over my head after a long workout and I really kind of pity people who will never know the feeling
What to use so far has been the most welcome benefit of going bald
So I
Like what I like most about it is I can focus on what I'm wearing and less about my hair. Mm-hmm
so I've been able to like I
Don't know. It's just like hair is another
It's a whole other world
There's a whole other
Situation. It's like you got a braid it and
piggies hails and shit like that
It's like fuck that I could just do a cute outfit and be bald like there's a hell of bad bitches that are bald
in this world
Like why would I have to do hair all the time?
This is not so bad after all right once you kind of settle into it
and uh
I don't know if you're catching it. Mm-hmm, but I can get kind of a weightlessness
Sort of head high. Mm-hmm that I think is
So now pretty much every single episode I get high
Yeah, you know what? I know you're I know you're talking about out. I know what you're talking about cuz
It was really hurting for a second. Now. It just hurts a little bit and um, I'm doing great
I put three. I'm only one man. Yeah
Double fist in I don't know what I want right Sophie's choice here. Yeah
So I know that you game and flex that a Nintendo where you shouted out everything from Spyro to Mortal Kombat
Super Smash Bros and even had the GameCube startup music on loop
You just seem like the right person to ask which video game do you think has the best original music?
Ah, okay, so I got two well
Well, I like Crash Bandicoot soundtrack music
My favorite is Barbie on GameCube. I
Sampled it one time and it's a genie Barbie the genie game on GameCube
It's so good
But like I think you're a mermaid for some of it you're on a carpet and you're flying
And it's so fucking dope and that yeah, the music is amazing and it's all that 8-bit sound but it's like these amazing
Ensembles of 8-bit
Gleeked a little bit 8-bit
Sound and it's it's amazing. Let's play one's gotta go cult classic game edition
Okay, okay fusion frenzy oddworld Abe's Oddysee earthworm Jim, what about it? I want all of those games
I know but you got to kick one out
I'm kicking out fusion frenzy just cuz it makes me upset
That game is very hard the the computer like the the NPCs are too smart. Like they're too good
I think they fucked up in that game
Okay, yes, I'm just gonna do it I respect it
That's smart. That's smart. That's smart
Little puddle is it that it's that crazy. Oh, so it is hot. I'm just hedging. I'm just had you I miss the 10th one, you know
Cheers, what a ride
And there it goes
Did you lie?
It has a little bit of a timer on it. You lied hitting right now. I get right now
That's fair going through us like a wave. It's gonna it makes the show, you know
cool
fun to watch and
You are crushing it still on your feet both of us right now slaying a hot sauce beast from within which is actually a rather
Poetic segue to this last hurdle because in an interview that you did last year with days
You revealed another hyphenate to your many hyphens as an entertainer when you said I love to paint monsters
That's my favorite thing. So I'll doodle a monster and then put it on a big canvas. It's been an interesting process
So with that in mind, I realized that this is kind of a tall ask
Given where we are in the show, but we have a little sketch pad and a pencil
Oh, what so honored if you would maybe give us a monster doodle inspired by your experience with the wings of death today
Oh my god, this is fun
Thanks. It's the least we can do. Yeah, I can do some
Yeah
That's not as bad as to Bob is still really fucking terrible
It sucks. Yeah, I know I get it. I guess I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. It's a show. I have to apologize
Oh my god. No, I mean, it's a brilliant show
How long do you want me to take with this?
Do I just take ten minutes? Do I five minutes you take it wherever you want to go?
Because you know, we got a little fate crossfade in the edit, you know, it'll move take your time
Do whatever you got to do with it love that
You're gonna like this. I can tell I know already. I don't know you very well, but I think you'll like this
All right, this is my monster no actually fuck that here I'm gonna actually make it scary
I'm gonna cover colors eyes in I
Think that's what it needed
That's dope I think he's cute a
Masterpiece if I've ever seen one hang it in the Louvre and look at you
Doja Cat taking on the wings of death and living to tell the tale and now there's nothing left to do but roll out the
Red carpet for you this camera this camera this camera. Let the people know what you have going on in your life
I got a tour coming up. It's called the scarlet tour
I
Got the scarlet tour coming up and I got what else do I got going on? I got my album coming out on the 22nd of
September is it this month? Is it September yet? Mm-hmm. Okay, and and
That's basically it
Hey what's going on hot ones fans
This is Sean Evans
And if you would like to get your hands on the season 22 hot ones hot sauce lineup at this point
You know the drill heatness calm heatness calm
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