Trump Perfects His Biden Impression, and His Dominance in the Polls, with Dave Rubin

Trump goes out and made a ton of news at this appearance he did, and it was a rally in Anaheim, California. He was classic Trump. He made you laugh. This is why he's winning. People like somebody who entertains them. They kind of forget about the drama he brought when he was in the White House because there's been some distance. And he gets up there and does a great bit on how clueless Joe Biden is whenever he takes to the stage in a mic. Watch. Some people say Biden's gonna make it. Does anybody think he's gonna make it to the starting gate? I mean, the guy can't find his way off of a stage. Look, here's a stage. Here's a stage. I've never seen this stupid stage before, right? I've never seen it. But if I walk left, there's a stair. And if I walk right, there's a stair. And this guy gets up. Where am I? For the listening audience, it ends with him facing the back wall. Where the hell am I? You do stand up. Come on. You have to admit it's good. Yeah, I was just gonna say, I mean, when Trump's at his best, there should be a two-drink minimum. And everybody would have a ball. And that's him at his best. And by the way, it's not only him at his best because it's off the cuff, but it's also because he's telling us something that we all know that the mainstream media refuses to show us, right? If the mainstream media was being honest about what's going on with Joe Biden, the thing that we all see that I have no doubt you're playing clips of every single day, getting lost, not knowing what he's saying, wrong references, lying about where he was or when he was there, growing up as a Jew, growing up as a Puerto Rican, growing up as a black, all of that stuff. If they would cover any of that honestly, then it would actually diffuse Trump, right? He wouldn't be able to go to the greatest hits and do it so obviously. But because they seem completely unable to show us anything true, they basically hand it to Trump. So again, I really, I'm trying hard. I don't hide what my feelings are about the candidates, but I have no problem giving the guy credit where it's due. And that's the type of stuff that people love. And look, it might just be true before we even get into the polls, Megan. I concede it might be true that people want to show and a showman more than a competent executive. That might be where America's at. And if it is, then we'll get everything we deserve, right? But maybe it's not. And now if you want to talk about the polls, we could do that. Yeah. Okay. So I'll go back to my pal, Andy McCarthy, who I just love, but he does not believe that Trump can actually win the general. And he, like you, wants a different candidate because even though people are charmed by Trump, he doesn't think he can get the ball across the finish line. I guess that's not the right way. That's not the right metaphor. He can't get the ball into the end zone. He can't. Goal line. Okay. Whatever. You know what I'm saying? So here's what Andy says. Hey, that was pretty good. With all due respect, if you're starting to say, you know, maybe he really can win. That's proof that the indictment strategy has worked to perfection. And he goes on to say, if we toss out that absurd Washington Post, ABC News poll, the one that has Trump over 50% has only ever had Trump over 50% and significantly ahead of Biden. What we find is that Trump is where he's always been unable to get to 47%. That's where he was in 2016 when he miraculously won. That's where he was in 2020 when he lost. And I don't believe Trump's numbers are going to stay flat. I believe they're going to dip by more than three points, maybe much more by this time next year because of indictment Rama, you know, because the all of the criminal cases, all the negative news is going to be out there about them, about him. Do you agree or do you think it's a different problem? I will hit the pole thing, but let me just say one thing quick first, which is that if Trump believes that the election was stolen, which is still what he says and what many of his supporters believe. And let me not even take a position on that for just a moment. But if that's what he believes, then the polls and the numbers and whether he can get more votes and everything else are completely irrelevant. And it's the only issue he should be addressing. If you believe wholeheartedly. And again, I believe he's being forthright. I believe he believes it. Then if you believe they stole it from you last time, why wouldn't they steal it from you this time? So you can tell me you're doing more rallies than ever, which obviously isn't true, or that the crowds are bigger than ever, which isn't true or whatever. But like, if they stole it once, they'll steal it again. So you would to me first, before we talk about polls, he has to address that. OK, they stole it from me last time. Here's what I'm doing on the ground. Here's what I'm doing to make sure a pipe doesn't burst in Philadelphia at midnight on election night. Here's what I'm doing related to ballot harvesting and everything else. But he hasn't done that, nor does I don't think anyone thinks he has the team around him that could actually honestly take care of that stuff. So I would say that's one problem on the polling side of things. Megan, how long- Wait, before you weigh in on the polls, let me just reiterate the numbers that we're talking about so people know, because I just said it in a tease. But Morning Consult came out on Friday. As of Friday, Trump at 63 percent. That's plus five since Monday post debate. Then DeSantis at 12. That's minus three since Monday at the debate. Vivek, seven, minus two since Monday after the debate. And then there's Trump. I don't know. Is this a second one? Friday afternoon. And that's Trump 62, DeSantis at 10. So the point is, oh, that's a New York Post poll. So you got the New York Post poll, 62, DeSantis 10, Morning Consult, Trump 63, DeSantis 12. You go. Well, first, let me ask you a question because I think it might help us here a little bit. In all your years of covering politics and elections and everything else, would you say you more often cover how polls were wrong or right? I've never seen a poll wrong by 50 points. Never. So I'll concede that. We're seeing like some crazy thing here. But usually the day after the election, aren't we always talking about how polls are wrong pretty much without exception, right? Yes, but- I'll get to the- This is every poll and it's 30 to 50 points. I'll get to the numbers in a second. But I think it's important that people, putting aside 60 to 10 or everything else, I think it's important that people view polls very skeptically. I am an adult. I'm 47 years old. I have never been polled. No one has ever called me for a poll. I've never been texted about a poll. I don't know that I know anyone who has been polled. Now, they've changed things over the years, but usually it's done by landlines. So you're eliminating a certain set of people who don't even have phones anymore. I think it's become very faulty. We all know there's- It's a bad sign when you're saying those things. But no, no, no. But everything being equal, there obviously is some validity to what's going on with the polls right now, right? So I'm not saying Trump is not the front runner. He obviously is. I would also say that DeSantis, who clearly is number two, he has to do a better job of separating himself from the pack. I think DeSantis' strength is also his weakness right now. I've been calling this the Tim Duncan theory on my show. I don't know if you're much of an NBA basketball fan, but Tim Duncan was a- No. No? Okay. So bear with me on this one for a second. I think you'll get the idea. Tim Duncan was a 15-time ... He played during the Kobe shack years, but you probably don't even know the name Tim Duncan. But the guy was a 15-time All-Star, won five championships. That's as many as Kobe. He was on Olympic teams. He was on every All-NBA team, but he wasn't flashy. He wasn't a big dunker. He wasn't a big talker. He retired the same year as Kobe. Nobody knew he even retired. The point is that that's what DeSantis is suffering from right now. Everything he says, I mean, how often on your show do you play clips of him lying? I'm guessing pretty much never. How often do you play clips of him not doing something he said he was going to do? I'm going to say pretty much never. He's doing everything right. And in a weird way, we don't know how to react to that because we've become sort of a cult of personality country. So I think his weakness is his strength now, that competence doesn't go viral. When you have a great interview with Trump, the stuff that goes viral are not the moments where Trump says something right. It's when he says something wrong. And DeSantis doesn't say a lot of wrong things. He doesn't make fun of people. So he's struggling in the, I would say, zeitgeist layer. And he has to figure out how to deal with that. I think he had a great interview with Bill Maher where he really showed that a true liberal like Bill Maher would have a much better life in Florida than California. But you got to figure out a way to make that translate. So whether the polls are off by 60 points or five points, there's still a lot of work to be done. I have no problem telling you that. There's definitely a lot of work to be done. I mean, I want to talk about it more. And we have a clip of him on Bill Maher. I think he's, I don't know if he's getting better or if he was just misjudged from the start, but we'll talk about that too. Junk science. 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