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Hello everyone, welcome to watch Lucy TV
In this interview, our guest is a former member of the district committee in Tsui Tin District in Hong Kong
Mr. Hui Ruiyu, hello Mr. Hui
Hello everyone, thank you Lucy for inviting me to be on the program
It's been a long time since I last did a program with Lucy
Hello everyone
It's been a long time since I did a program with you
I also know that you have successfully applied for political asylum in the UK
You can really start a new life
Can you talk about what changes you want to make in January?
I am very fortunate that my political asylum has been approved in the UK a few months ago
I promised to talk to Lucy about the process after the approval
Basically, I went to the UK in July 2021
I waited for almost two years before I officially got asylum
Because in the past two years, as you know, the problems in Ukraine and Afghanistan
The suppression of political asylum here is very serious
So we Hong Kong people have been waiting for a long time
But I know, besides me
There are many Hong Kong brothers and sisters who have been applying for asylum
After I was approved, basically
Our life here is really like
There are no restrictions
I can live here like a normal British citizen
I will start my new life step by step
What have you been doing recently?
I want to ask you a question, I'm sorry
Actually, I have talked to you before
At that time, before you were approved
You may have had a hard time
Maybe there are some restrictions at work
Can you share a little bit?
Now you have been approved for political asylum
Can you talk a little bit about the restrictions you had before?
There are many restrictions
For example, during the application period for political asylum
You can work in the first year
After a year, you can go to work
But there is a restriction on employment
You can only work in a certain industry
And the entry level of that particular industry
Is relatively high
There is only one industry
The entry level is relatively low
That is the nursing industry
The nursing industry is divided into many different categories
You can work in this industry
In the first year, I mainly learned English and studied
In the second year, I really went to work as a nurse
After working for 8-9 months
I was approved for political asylum
After that, I didn't do that job
Now I start to learn how to drive
To run my own business
And start to officially apply for a job
I saw that after you got the asylum
The first thing you did was to travel, right?
Leaving the UK
How do you say, the first trip after you went to the UK
Where did you go?
That time, I was actually in the UK
But it was in Scotland
In the name of Scotland, it is also called another country
Because this is the United Kingdom
If you really want to travel abroad
The procedure is relatively troublesome
Because you go to different countries
If you are a person in political asylum
You have to get a visa to go to different countries
So if you want to travel in the next few years
It will be a little more troublesome
Of course, if we have a chance, we will talk about this in more detail
Can you talk about the official topic first?
After you got the asylum, you opened an organization
Then you have your own shop
You said you can sell milk tea
You can be a Hong Konger's best friend
You can talk to each other
Or I understand it this way
You can do your work in Hong Kong
You can do something like a district councillor, right?
Because in the past two years, during the waiting period
Actually, there are a lot of ideas, a lot of ideas have accumulated
After the approval, I quit
The first thing is to learn how to drive
Because I don't have a license in Hong Kong
After the approval of my identity
I can immediately go to learn how to drive
This is the first thing
The second thing, I set up a CIC
You can think of it as a social organization
This CIC is mainly to study some public policies in the UK
Then I hope to promote these policies to
The HK people here in BNO
In the past few months
We have also held a few retreat lectures
The response is quite good
Because a lot of HK people came here
They are worried about their life after retirement
If there are problems
Or the economy suddenly turns bad
What will happen?
They are very worried about such problems in the future
We have also held a few lectures
To let them know about the policies here
Because a lot of times
When they come to a strange place
Some people have a language limitation
Maybe they are not familiar with the policies here
Even if you ask them to look up
The information is inexhaustible
Even if you can find some information
You may not have a very clear understanding
You need to send a letter to the British government department
Then you can get an answer
After I set up this organization
If there are such problems
I will send some letters to different departments in the UK
I hope to get a clearer answer
Step by step, I will do these things
If I receive some help from HK people
Or if there are such problems
I can't find the answer on the Internet
I will send a letter to the British government
Then after receiving the answer
I can publish the information
For example, when I was learning to drive
I found out that
As long as your friend has a license for three years or more
He can accompany you
To teach you how to drive
But many Hong Kong people are concerned about this
Is the three-year license experience
Is it worth the experience in Hong Kong?
I also asked the transportation department here
The answer I got was actually calculated
So this is an example
In fact, a lot of information in this area
We just got here, we are not very clear
We need an organization to ask
After asking, I will bring this answer back to everyone
This is what I am doing
I set up an organization
To do something called civil education
In this month
Because there is a market near where I live
There was a stall in the market
It was closed
I went to ask how much it was for a week
See if I can rent it for a while
Very cheap, only 65 pounds
65 pounds for a week
650 HKD per month
Renting for a month is only HK$2,000
More than HK$2,000
But the electricity bill has to be paid by yourself
It's very fair, right?
Just that position
You can open a three-day stall for a week
It's enough for me
Because I won't go to the whole market to do that stall
So three days is OK
I thought it was so cheap
Why don't you rent it first?
Then slowly find out what can be done
I recently thought
It turned out that the simplest thing in the UK
If you want to set up a restaurant
The best thing to do is to go shopping
Buy bubble tea
Because it's easier to get in
I have already started
To turn the stall into a bubble tea shop
This shop already has a name
It's called Hong Kong Station
Hong Kong Station
Why did I say that?
Because I also enjoyed working as a district councillor in Hong Kong before
So I really hope to buy bubble tea
To earn some rent
Another thing is
Treat it as a base
I hope that Hong Kong people around me
Occasionally go to a place
To get drunk
Or they want to find someone to talk
If you want to ask something, you can come and find me
So there is something in my shop
Like the case records of our office
Put on the counter
If some Hong Kong people come
If they ask me some questions that I don't know
I will put them down
I will answer them later
This is the second thing I want to do
To open a bubble tea shop
It feels like you are doing the job of a district councillor
Do you think so?
I am happy
Because there was a group of Hong Kong people coming to my shop on Monday
To support me
It feels like
I have just started my first term as a district councillor
At the beginning
I invited some neighbors to come and eat
It feels like
The situation at that time
A group of people were very happy
To be honest
In the UK, especially where I live
It is not a place where Hong Kong people live
They rarely see their own compatriots
So suddenly one day
There are a group of Hong Kong people surrounding you
It feels good
In addition
Now I have officially opened a shop
Occasionally I will see some Hong Kong people passing by
It turns out they live here
If I don't open that shop
I don't know there are Hong Kong people living here
Actually it is a very happy experience
If it is a rent of more than 200 pounds
For a month
I think it's worth it
I hope to become a Hong Kong artist
In addition
I will discuss with other community organizations
How to train Hong Kong people here
If they also want to do some small business
Or rent a shop
They are not very familiar with the whole process
To be honest, I am not familiar with it either
I am still learning step by step
If I am really familiar with the whole process
How to do it later
If some Hong Kong people really want to come and experience
Want to do business in the market
Want to know the whole process
How to do it
You can come to my shop
Stay for a day
Feel the atmosphere
Because my shop
Very interesting
Basically you stand at the shop
The people outside will definitely be
Very close
Passing through your shop
So you can chat
With some locals
When I first opened my shop
When there is no business
I will make some milk tea
Then I will invite some locals
Come and drink
Many people responded very well
They are willing to respond
To be honest
I think it's worth it
So it's a very interesting experience
Compared to a shop
You walk into the shop
Like a shop
You open a stall
In the market
Then there are some customers
Coming and going very close
That kind of direct interaction
I think the interactivity is much better than a shop
Because shops are very passive
You sit inside
People come in and leave
But in the market
You can do a lot of things
It's a good experience
So I am also contacting my colleagues in other communities
If he really has some friends
Who want to learn
How to open a stall
I can invite them
To come to my shop
And experience it
I am also curious
Your shop can do business
Can you say
If you want to do business
Do you have to go through some procedures
Before you can sell milk tea
Yes, especially if
If you want to do business
In the UK
You need to
Go to the city council
To apply for
Food registration
One month before
One month before the opening
You need to register
This is the most basic
You have already done it
Yes
Do you need to pay?
Just like in Hong Kong
Apply for a license
No need to pay
After you open
There will be people from the city council
Go to your shop
To inspect
The environment of your shop
And give you a score
If your score is 0
You can't open
You must have a score
1 to 5
You must have a score
For now
He hasn't come yet
Because he won't tell you when he will come
Go to the city council
To inspect the environment
And give me a score
This is the first step
To apply for a food registration
And then
According to my market
When I rented a stall
There was no requirement
He only asked for one thing
He asked me to buy
Business insurance
I bought it
It's not expensive
The third step
Because my goods are not expensive
I just bought public insurance
About 110 pounds
One year
Can guarantee
2 million pounds
Insurance
That's enough
Because I sell goods
If there is a chance
The stall next door
Your business should not reach 2 million pounds
This is business insurance
I did it
The third thing
You'd better
Take the health certificate
Here
Health certificate
If you have to deal with food
It's best to take the health certificate
The health certificate
Will help you
Get a better rating
Then
Start to import
But I am a pearl tea shop
In the UK
You can buy
All the ingredients
Many people are doing this
No need to worry
If you don't know where to get the goods
This procedure is very simple
If you want to try
We can teach you
How to make pearl milk tea
Just add milk and tea
Pearl milk tea
There are many different ways
The simplest way
Add cream powder
Add milk tea powder
Mix together
Add tea
Boil the pearls
Mix together
If you want to play more
You can get milk powder from the supplier
Get a pearl
Boil it
Mix together
Boil the tea
That's it
Not much technology
But you can learn
Have you ever done it in Hong Kong?
I have never done it in Hong Kong
So I think
Although this pearl milk tea
Is very simple
But the whole process of
Running a food business
If you haven't experienced it before
The process of making pearl milk tea
Is actually very simple
The most complicated thing is
How do you operate this thing
Of course, if you are willing to pay
You can find someone to decorate
Do the design
Buy all the equipment
Everything is made for you
You pay
I am not
I try to find the equipment myself
I am in different places
Throw some kitchen utensils
And those
Towels
Knives
The whole process
You can learn a lot
How to use the cheapest method
To find those things
And the whole process of making milk tea
How to make it
Smoothest
Use the least time
Use the most efficient method
Do it well
In the process of operation
There will be a lot of problems
Then you have to solve it step by step
For example, I don't eat very sweet
So
When making milk tea
I made a product that is not very sweet
For people to eat
Then I put it in the counter
Put a can of sugar
For him to add
But as far as I know
I always complain
Not many people
Only one
Really use that thing to add sugar
But I know
The sweetness I give
It must not be what the locals like
You understand
At first I thought
It seems to be good
Let them have flexibility
Not like
You have pre-made it
They don't like
Do a little more
Will there be such a situation?
In the whole process of operation
You have to keep going
Keep adjusting
Find the best way
Use the cost-effective method
To do the whole thing
I think this learning process is important
Making pearl milk tea itself is a very simple thing
I am a little curious
Customers who buy your milk tea
You just said that there are many locals
Hong Kong people
And how much does your milk tea cost?
How much money can you make?
In my area
There are not many Hong Kong people living
Mainly locals
The target audience
Basically some middle-aged people
Young people come in less
But the milk tea market
In theory
For young people
It is more acceptable
But
Fortunately, there are many old people
In fact, I asked him to come and try
He is willing to try
But will he really pay me?
I really don't know
Just started
For young people
Really because
You opened a milk tea shop
He really came in to buy
Because
Because our market has a Facebook
His Facebook helped me to promote
Promote my stall
After the promotion
Some people who would not come to this market
Come in and buy a cup of pearl milk tea
That's my price
The price
Very cheap
Should be
The cheapest in the whole of England
Because I
When I started, I didn't want to make money
Maintain
The expenses are OK
I bought 3.5 pounds a cup
All 3.5 pounds a cup
What does 3.5 pounds mean?
3.5 pounds
In pounds
3.5 pounds
Yes
A cup of pearl milk tea here
Average should be more than 4 pounds
More than 4 pounds
How many milliliters did you say?
More than 560 milliliters
The cost is not expensive
You add all the drinks
Drinks, food
The cup
If you are talking about that cup
Including the cup, including the tube
The cost does not include the rent
The cost of that cup is about 1 pound
A little loose
Yes, of course
If you rent or pay
Whether you can earn it
It depends on how much you sold that day
If you sell less
You sold a lot
But that day I was able to pay back
How many cups did you sell that day?
I sold 40 to 50 cups that day
But that day was not accurate
Because there were more than 10 cups
For Hong Kong people to come and buy
This is a friendship sale
This is not accurate
But I don't think it's bad
Not bad
And in the process, I think it's pretty happy
Pretty happy
You can
At that time, I thought
It's worth practicing English
OK
When I was at the stall
Ask someone to have a drink and talk to him
There is a communication
It's a good experience
This is Hong Kong milk tea
What are the characteristics of Hong Kong milk tea?
This milk tea belongs to Hong Kong
Hong Kong is a symbol
It's really a good thing
But it's a pity
This milk tea should come from Taiwan
Of course, Hong Kong is
Out of town
Actually from Taiwan
But
Because I just told you
Later, my shop may
Invite some people to come
To make some Hong Kong specialties
To sell
For example
If I really invite people to come
I may give him a position
Let him
For example
Tofu flower
To make some
Crispy sugar
Even stir-fry something
If someone is willing to come
I can take a step forward
To make some Hong Kong food
I think this feeling is quite good
In your city
There is a small shop in Hong Kong
Selling Hong Kong food
It has the local market
It can also have the local culture
It can also
Promote Hong Kong food
The feeling is like this
Yes, so we hope
Don't go to
A price they can't accept
Or a price they think is expensive
So we
Don't think the price is expensive
If they come
To drink
I know they won't buy
I am very welcome
I just want to be a friend
Now you feel like a boss
It's good that you went to the UK
What a life
Just for fun
But I want to say
The cost is not high
Because I don't have an appointment
I don't have any schedule
The whole shop
Buying ingredients
Buying fridge
Buying ice maker
All together, 2000 pounds
You can't imagine in Hong Kong
You can make a tea shop with 2000 pounds
I used around 2000 pounds
So even if I lose weight
I won't get fat
How big is the area?
About 100 square feet
I take it as 100 square feet
So this feeling
For me, it's not that hard
To start a business in the UK
The shop is cheap
You don't need money to get a license
How do you say
You can
Anyway, the application process is easy
You don't need that much money
to start
Yes, if you are talking about starting a business in the UK
Relatively speaking
It won't be more expensive than Hong Kong
And for example
If you know how to choose
For example, this market
You can start a business with just a few thousand pounds
Or sometimes
There are some flexible markets
Basically, there is no cost
Basically
Maybe
80-200 pounds can already do business
So this allows you
The chance to try wrong
You made a mistake once
Twice, even three times
You can get up
Maybe you made a mistake once in Hong Kong
Basically, you are responsible
So this is a
In the process of starting a business
It's a process of learning from failure
If the cost of failure is very high, it's a big deal
But the cost of failure here is not high
That's all I can say
Other than that
Do you have anything else to share?
I said
Yes
I opened a milk tea shop
I bought a car and set up a social organization
I was
In the first year
Because I can't work here
At that time, I read a card
It's called On Kit Insurance Card
I am now looking for a job in both fields
Because you know that milk tea shop
Only three days
I don't want to spend a long time in a milk tea shop
Because this is not a
A long-term development
I will develop a long-term industry
So I also try other jobs
I got a card before
I don't want to waste a long time
I am also looking for related jobs
I also hope to do something
Really can be with some locals
Local people
In an office
Have a lot of opportunities to talk
This job
I hope it's my goal
Because if this is the case
You know you have to integrate
What do you need in this community
Or
What is missing will not work
Or what is available will work
I really have this experience
Because before
The job I did in the nursing home
Do you really
Communicate with colleagues
a lot
Need to use a lot
Language exchange
Not
I haven't done what I want
I want to have a job in the future
Can do this
The character of a job
I need to have a lot of
Communication
A lot of communication
I want to experience that kind of life
That feeling is now
Actually your identity has changed
Because you applied for political asylum
You can say you are a British
British
Is there any change in your mind?
Are you a British?
I think so
Of course
After having a formal identity
You do anything
It's much easier
There is no limit now
The biggest limit is to travel abroad
But
It will be easier for me
The limit of travel abroad is
You haven't got the official document yet
No, this is very annoying
I have been studying
How to get a political asylum
The procedure to travel abroad
Is very troublesome
I have a chance to talk to everyone
Because I believe
I can't find a lot of relevant information on the Internet
Although I study step by step
How to do the whole process
Go to other countries
To understand, you applied for political asylum
Ordinary countries
For example, the United States may wait a while
You can get a visa
Before you get a visa
You can go to some
Non-dangerous countries
Or go back to your own country
The United States doesn't know
But
For example, the UK
First, it doesn't allow you to go back to your original country
This is the most basic
The second thing is
If you need to go to
A country outside your own country
You need to apply for a visa
For the country you want to go to
Apply for a visa for each country
And every country
The visa requirements
Will be very different
Like I just found Japan
The situation is
Japan needs a series of information
For example, you need a very detailed
Tourist record
For example, where you go, where you live
What flight, what hotel
You will have a employer's
Work certificate
You have to show him your bank account
See if you can really support you
For example
The cost of a trip to Japan
There are a lot of conditions
And
If you meet these conditions
Will they approve you? I don't know
Because I haven't tried it
There will be such a restriction
It's not like before
With a special passport
There may be a lot of different countries
After buying a ticket, you can go there
It's much more complicated
My understanding is
You have already approved your visa
But you haven't got the British identity
Is it a British passport? Can you understand that?
Yes, for example, if you want to get here
Yes, if you want to get here
If you want to get here
You have to follow the general
Immigration procedure, it's 5 plus 1
You can only get here six years later
The official British passport
So I told my friend
Just kidding, he also
Just came with me, his whole family came
I told him not to let his sister-in-law know
Because if his sister-in-law knows
You won't be able to travel for six years
She will kill you, just kidding
This is very difficult, I believe
I understand
Other countries may also
Review
Review your identity
When you go on a trip
I understand that there are such procedures
What else
What else do you want to say?
You said you won't say anything else, right?
What else do you want to know?
You said you won't say anything else, right?
The exam is very long
What do you want to ask?
I know it's difficult
Do you want to talk about this now?
The exam is a little bit
If everyone wants to know
The cost
Find a teacher to learn
And report the bus driver
The cost is the same as in Hong Kong
So you say which one is cheaper
But which one is more difficult
But I haven't tested the Hong Kong one
So I don't know how difficult it is in Hong Kong
But I'm talking about the bus here
Not easy
I officially went
I went for two weeks
How do you feel now?
I feel like
A lot of people have already adapted
For example
Recently
I heard that
There is a rubber that cannot be used after October
I heard that there is a rubber that cannot be used after October
But I
Because we use a lot of rubber for our bubble tea
I called the supplier
Whether to affect me
I just came to England
Go to different departments
Talk to different companies
The situation is not indisputable
Ask questions
Worry
I have given up a lot.
In daily life, you need to deal with different kinds of life.
First, you are willing to take the first step.
And after you do it, you will be able to cope with it.
So in terms of life adaptation, I don't think it's a big problem.
The most important thing is the psychological integration.
To be honest, I don't think so.
In the past two years, I have been working with local people.
But I am talking about the local people.
Can I really build a stable relationship with them?
I used to chat with them after I came to Hong Kong.
But is it a good relationship?
Can I connect with them?
I think I haven't been able to do it in the past two years.
Our life is mainly about Hong Kong people.
Is there a big relationship with English?
There is a relationship, but it's not just a matter of language.
I think there are some cultural things that need to be broken through.
You asked me if I wanted to go back to Hong Kong.
I still want to go back to Hong Kong.
Of course, I am very grateful to the UK for giving me a safe place.
But in the future, I will continue to learn English and learn different things.
One day, I will have a chance to go back to Hong Kong.
I still want to go back.
Because I used to work in Hong Kong.
That time brought me a lot of happy things.
So I still want to go back and have a look.
Do you have anything else to add?
I am slowly learning English.
It's much easier to learn English after I have a new job.
If I have a unique experience, I will come up and talk to everyone.
I think you still have a chance next time.
Yes, Lucy will find me.
I will come up and talk to everyone.
Thank you.
See you next time. Bye.
Bye.
