NFL Says NFL Player Association Told Running Backs To Fake Injuries, Gain Contract Leverage?! | PMS

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Sep 21, 2023
But how about the NFL suing the NFLPA, did you see that?
Whoa.
Over the running back?
What about?
Yeah, they're filing litigation that the NFLPA
was basically recommending to people to fake injuries
to kind of add leverage
for the running back contract situation.
The NFL, I don't know if it's suing them
or filed a injunction, and who would even hear that?
A court, what does it even mean?
I don't know, but the NFL publicly said,
hey, we don't like what the fuck you did there,
pretty much, is what they publicly announced.
Did you see this?
Yeah, and I remember that news kind of came out.
I thought it was amongst the running backs
and that came out from the Zoom meeting.
It was kind of leaked.
I don't think that was from the PA,
but I mean, that wouldn't be.
So Tretter, actually, J.C. Tretter,
who, a friend of the program,
was actually quoted in some interview
talking about gaining leverage however you possibly can.
That ain't a good way.
Yeah, well, I think he alluded to it, though.
The NFL is filing a grievance against the NFLPA
over allegations the union advised running backs
to consider fiending or exaggerating.
That's a good word there.
Feening?
I think it's like feening.
Yeah, is it rain?
Feigning.
Feigning, feigning, feigning.
What a word.
Hell yeah.
I wonder how the NFL-
What does a grievance mean exactly?
Or exaggerating injuries to gain leverage
to contract toxins, seeking an order for the union
to cease and desist from such improper conduct.
Now, exaggerating injuries.
Can you search up J.C. Tretter injuries in this thing?
Because I think Mike Florio quoted one and said,
well, all of a sudden,
this quote seems much more important now from J.C. Tretter.
Whenever some other, maybe a couple months ago
when the running back thing was happening,
J.C. Tretter obviously very high in the NFLPA.
And I assume he just said something
in an interview passively.
But then when Jim Irsay puts out the,
there's some contracts,
there's some agents operating in bad faith
right now telling the running backs to do stuff.
I think that, and then the agent comes firing back
at Jim Irsay.
I think then Jim Irsay rallies the troops about like,
this is bad faith going on here.
And I don't know though,
what does that mean a grievance comes.
Asked on Ross Tucker's podcast,
if running backs like Saquon should claim
they're not 100% healthy as a means of holding out.
Tretter said that he couldn't recommend
faking injuries publicly,
but he didn't exactly rule it out either.
You need to try and create as much leverage
as you possibly can, Tretter said.
And that's the tough thing with the franchise tagger
being restricted in the movement
is it decreases your leverage.
But then you have to find creative ways
to build leverage elsewhere.
I think we've seen issues now.
I don't think anybody would say there were fake injuries,
but we've seen players who didn't want to be
where they currently are,
have injuries that made them unable to practice and play,
but you're not able to get it fined.
And you're not able to be punished for not reporting.
So there are issues like that.
I don't think I'm allowed to ever recommend that
at least publicly,
but I think each player needs to find a way
to build up leverage to try and get a fair deal.
And that's really what all these guys are looking for
is to be compensated fairly.
So that quote, I would assume,
was the thing after Jim Irsay or others were like,
this is bullshit, what's going on here,
was the thing that they kind of find.
But I didn't hear him say, hey, they should do it.
I think he was just pointing out the obvious
that it has happened, not only in the NFL,
but NBA, I mean, James Harden.
Oh yeah.
James Harden.
Ben Simmons.
I mean, this has happened elsewhere.
It's not like they created it, you know, AJ?
No, they just don't want him to talk about it anymore.
The cease and desist part of the end,
like they just want him to shut it down
and not continue this conversation.
So yeah, maybe he's in the middle.
Where's J.C. Trotter at right now?
He's not playing.
Yeah, he's not playing.
We should text him.
Yeah, let's text him.
Ah, cold call.
Yeah, cold call.
Let's tell him we're on though, you know,
obviously, because everything he says
is going to be literally in a grievance.
What is that?
Who hears that?
Like, Judge Judy?
Who is this?
Goodell, and he just crumples up the paper
and throws it out.
It's just for merit, you think?
No, it's like getting a demerit,
like giving someone, hey, that's one demerit.
Okay, what happened?
And how often does it happen?
Like, we're filing a grievance.
Especially between those two.
Okay, we'll move along.
Thank you.
We're filing a grievance.
Yeah, but when players file grievances,
typically they can get things resolved pretty quick.
If you file a grievance based on how,
like an injury settlement might have gone down
and they want to give you three weeks,
now it might get moved to six weeks
after you file the grievance.
So, like, things can come from that.
Grievances?
What about the NFL filing it against the players?
I don't know how that works.
Yeah, that's the thing.
I think some type of resolution can come from it,
or else there's no point in doing it.
Because they're the ones filing the grievance,
but they're the ones making the decision,
so the decision's already been made.
Or is this like the thing with Goodell,
where they had to bring in that third-party lady?
Then she would recommend to Goodell what to do.
But we all know that that didn't matter.
Her role did not matter.
Remember that?
That was the final, the little finer detail we found out
right before the judgment day.
It was like, turns out this is just a recommendation.
To Roger.
This is so Roger doesn't have to do
the whole song and dance and court thing.
She will be doing this.
She will be giving a recommendation to Roger Goodell,
who would then be making the final decision.
It was like, so nothing's changed.
And oh well, he's gonna take it serious.
It's like, I'm sure, I'm sure he is.
And I think he did, and has.
But there will come a situation that'll pop up
where Roger will go, you don't know the whole story.
Whoever the judge is, whether it's a new one or whatever,
that's not the case, we gotta do this.
I appreciate the fact that the NFL is trying
to change things, and I could see how they would
be pissed off if a union was telling people
to fake injuries so that they could get out of there
if they thought that that was happening.
But I don't know how this matters.
Like, a filing of a grievance, what is that?
We'll find out for tomorrow.
That's what we'll do.
Could you imagine if that information?
No answer from J.C. Trent.
I tried to look it up.
If we had that info before about Jonathan Taylor,
how loud it would have been,
because everyone would have immediately just been like,
oh, Jonathan Taylor's listening to J.C. Trent.
He's just faking an injury, and that's why he's doing it.
Well, J.C. Trent didn't say that.
He was just pointing out that it has happened in the past.
We gotta make sure we say that,
because that is the whole conversation
that's taking place in this grievance.
But Jonathan Taylor just posted him working out.
So Jonathan Taylor is probably feeling as if he's healthy,
letting the world know he's healthy.
Should be getting there close, close to it.
Was he put on PUP or IR?
PUP.
Okay, so he's back after two weeks.
Physically unable to perform.
Two weeks.
Three weeks, four weeks?
Three?
Three weeks?
Two, I mean, four, I think.
Four is four total, or there's two left.
Four, I thought it was IR's four.
IR's four too, at least four.
Yeah, no longer have to be designated either.
I remember there was one person.
At the beginning of it, IR used to be forever for everybody.
And then there was one person that was allowed
to be designated to come back.
So you had to pick an injury on the spot,
predict what future injuries could come,
and how easily could that come.
Wow.
And then they were like, this is stupid.
Isn't it?
Isn't this, we should just, just like every other sport.
Wait, so now everybody can come back?
I think so.
I do believe.
That's good.
Is that COVID?
I think COVID was the worst.
That was COVID, because it was three weeks,
I thought, during COVID for the IR.
And then they had people in hotels.
Remember, they had people just living in hotels.
Because you had to do an eight-day isolation?
Yeah.
Quarantine?
Quarantine.
It was five days, because I had to do it.
Wild times.
I got signed like midway through August.
To Tampa?
Yeah, sit in a hotel for five days.
Was that cool?
Was it a good hotel?
Oh, it caused some stress on my marriage.
Oh.
Oh, babe, yeah, you got to take the kids.
Oh, yeah, you must, yeah, you got all the kids.
You must be watching Netflix shows.
I'm sure that's what you were watching, yeah.
Yeah, you were, yeah.
How much lotion did they buy you in there?
Yeah, you ran up a bill.
Front office, the front office called down.
Hey, front office, how can I help you?
I need all your lotion.
Now, all of it.
Do you know I'm all out out,
so if you guys could just figure out how
to drop that out of sight, that'd be great.
Can you bring a laptop up, too?
I like to be lathered.
