1.7 million “gotaways” have entered the United States under the Biden administration. This group of illegal immigrants evade Border Patrol in an attempt to get farther into the United States. Crossroads speaks to Kay Rubacek, producer of the Epoch TV original documentary “Gotaways” about the border crisis they don’t tell you about.
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Epoch TV has a new original documentary on the border crisis with on the ground footage that's actually pretty shocking.
It's The God Aways, the hidden border crisis and it premieres tomorrow.
We have the film's producer Kay Rubachek here to speak with us.
Hey Kay Rubachek, thanks for being on Crossroads.
Thanks for having me.
So Kay, what are the God Aways?
The God Aways is a term that we really need to know about because there's almost 2 million of them that we know of
that are probably living in your town anywhere across the US.
They've been coming through the border.
They are illegal immigrants.
These are people who wouldn't be able to come into the country legally often because they have a criminal background.
And these are people coming across the border in so many different ways but illegal ways.
They're called by border patrol and authorities God Aways and that's a term that I really think we want this movie to become a normal term across the country that people are familiar with.
Well, that sounds important because we hear a lot of narratives that kind of mix the whole pool of people together.
We hear about migrants.
We hear about legal immigrants.
Then we hear about illegal immigrants.
So how are the God Aways different from the other groups?
So if you think about people who are coming across the border and they're coming in in mass numbers and they're very easy to see.
And the media will show big groups of people coming to the border.
Border patrol is absolutely overwhelmed by the number of these people coming through.
The Biden administration has been encouraging people to come through.
But what is happening while we're looking at them is that there's criminals and plenty of other people that have heard that the borders open and they are coming through because they would not be able to get legal status within this country.
So the big groups of migrants to America, they, you know, they usually have some sort of paperwork or something to prove that in some way they could get immigration status at some point.
Some of them will be rejected.
Others will come through.
But those crossing illegally, it's almost certain that they would not get legal status in the U.S.
And that's why they're coming through illegally.
But that's a massive population of people now living in the U.S. that we haven't been talking about.
Well, you know, this is important, too, because I did my own investigation of the border.
And most of what I focused on was the, you know, the manipulation of the migrant system.
People are applying for amnesty and they're discarding their IDs.
And they're basically just being trafficked in.
When we talk about the buses and the airplanes and just busing and flying people over the country and the NGO involvement, that's that's one type.
Those are the quote unquote migrants.
And, yeah, the State Department is coordinating with the U.N. on that whole system.
But, you know, one thing I did hear when I was at the border, too, is that there are people who don't go through that system.
And usually there's a reason why they try to avoid it.
So, you know, who are these people?
Like, what were you finding about them?
So in this movie, God Awaits, the hidden border crisis, we actually take you to the border in a way that just hasn't been done because the investigation was a two year investigation.
And it's just there's so much action going on in the border there every single day from these arrests are happening anywhere from 5 a.m. in the morning to 2 a.m. again the next morning.
And they're happening constantly.
And a lot of these people have criminal records.
These and something that really shocked me was the number of Americans that are traveling from all across the country.
Some fly in, some drive in.
They borrow or rent cars or steal cars.
And they are coming in and they are taking illegal immigrants across the border.
They are participating in human smuggling to get them over the border.
But those people may not be aware quite often they're carrying criminals.
And so when these people are arrested, very often the sheriffs and deputy sheriffs, they're finding that there are people with criminal records being brought in who are pretending to be just regular immigrants.
But they're not.
They really are crossing illegally and often have a criminal background.
And so many Americans really shockingly are participating in this thinking they can make a few quick bucks.
But they're getting caught.
And that's what you see up close and personal in this movie.
Yeah.
We know that Cuba did it, of course, during the Cold War.
They're emptying out prisons and mental institutions and sending the people they didn't want here.
We also know in places like El Salvador, where the government is really cracking down on gangs, anybody who is fleeing the legal systems, well, like the border is wide open.
Why not come here?
And it does raise some concerns that we're bringing in people who, again, you know, there's a lot of legal immigration.
There's a lot of amnesty.
There's a very open process of bringing people in who are technically illegal but are just being bused and shipped all over the country and have to, you know, maybe have their trials to see if they actually are legal.
But there's a clear reason why people would want to, let's say, cross in the dead of night or cross at times when they shouldn't be crossing and avoid that process when the border is as open as it is.
You know, Kay, I'm actually wondering, I know, actually, I've worked with Charlotte Cuthbertson who worked on this with you for a long time.
She and I are like long-term colleagues.
I know she's like one of the most hardcore reporters I've ever met, especially her coverage of the border.
What's some of the footage you've gotten?
Like what has really stood out to you looking through all of this?
So I agree with that, with your perspective on Charlotte's work.
And when I saw what she was doing on the border, I started reporting with her there in 2021.
She took me to different sites.
And even when you see it for yourself, right before your eyes, it just changes your perspective.
And that's what happened to me in 2021.
And the most memorable experience for me was when I was with Charlotte around, it was after midnight, and we were filming cartel members bringing, smuggling women and children mostly across the river, the Rio Grande River in the middle of the night.
And in a period of just a couple of hours, we saw about probably at least 200 people coming over.
And then they were processed by Border Patrol who had set up a temporary station.
Now, these were supposedly legal immigrants.
It's really very hard to say, but they were decoys because just down the river in the dark of night, there were other boats coming across that Border Patrol couldn't deal with.
Very likely they had guard aways on there or they had drugs, arms, who knows what else they were bringing across while Border Patrol and National Guard were being overwhelmed with the people coming through.
That was just one little thing that I experienced.
And that's just something that when you're on the border, as you would probably know yourself because you've been there, you've seen it with your own eyes.
And it's so different to just seeing a photo or reading a report and when you can be taken there and it changes your perspective.
So we really wanted to make a movie that would take you there and be in that front seat with the sheriffs, with all of the arrests and in the jails and what's going on there.
And hopefully it will help people really feel like they've been there and have a much better understanding of the problem that we're dealing with.
I've talked to some of the sheriffs too. I know they have a very different take on everything they're watching because for them, they see all sides of it.
They see the women and children that the media like to focus on. They see the unaccompanied minors that the media like to focus on.
They also see that the cartels are the ones doing the handoff basically for the amnesty process, which is really ironic that our government is working with the cartels on that essentially.
But they also see the criminal element. They see the drugs. They see the murders. They see the break-ins. They see the high-speed chases.
And it's that side that I know really isn't shown to people. And from what I understand, it's that side that this movie is really focused on, that unseen crisis.
I know it's even the title with all this. So I mean, I guess just talking about that unseen crisis, how serious is this? Like what's the big picture here?
Well, to give an example of the big picture, I'll tell you the small picture. So this film is focused on one small town that's right in a very open area of the border and so many guard aways are coming through.
And years ago, they would have prosecuted maybe five to six cases a month of border crime. There's always been some form of border crime down there.
But now they're prosecuting up to five to six hundred a month. Right now, you think about the increase in that one part of the border.
And these are not this isn't just talking about like, like you said, there's all the high speed car chases and everything.
But it's not just talking about the illegal immigrants coming through, but the Americans participating in it.
And they are having to arrest and prosecute these people that have traveled from other states to come involved in human smuggling.
And that county, for example, has three thousand residents roughly. In the last year, they've had to prosecute more than five thousand people.
So they're prosecuting more people in that county than live in that county. So this is one example of how severe the crisis is there.
But those people, the illegal immigrants, we know where they're going because we asked them. Border authorities asked them.
They go into New York. They're going to Chicago. They're going to even Vancouver. They're going. They know exactly where they're going.
So they're heading to your town somewhere, wherever you are in the in this nation. So you do need, you know, people really need to know what's what's going on.
And and I think that this Kinney County in the southern southern Texas really gives an idea of what is going on.
And then it'll help you understand if crime rates are going up in your city. Why? How is it often they have been.
There's many reports of crime criminals, crimes being carried out by illegal immigrants.
And unfortunately, there's more and more of those that have been reported in the last two years.
So we need to be asking why and looking to the source and looking at how to stop that.
So that's sort of. Yes, that's the hidden unseen crisis that we're focusing on.
Really important stuff. And again, the part that people aren't being shown usually.
Kay, where can people see the documentary? When can they watch it?
It is being released on Friday, the 28th of July. And that's tomorrow.
Tomorrow and go to God Aways Film dot com to watch it.
God Aways Film dot com. And it's made by Epoch TV. So you can you can check it out there.
Always a pleasure. Thanks for being here. Thanks so much.