A neurologist is trying to sue a Thai restaurant
for apparently serving an appetizer that was so spicy,
it has actually permanently burned her throat and tongue.
Aah!
Yeah, this is going viral
for a lot of different reasons right now.
Harjazleen Walia, M.D., Andrew,
is a neurologist who graduated from NYU.
She runs Headache Away in San Jose.
Andrew, she is suing Kood, a Thai restaurant in Las Gatos,
for serving her Dragon Balls that were too spicy
and unfit for human consumption.
Of course, this sparked a big firestorm of comments
on various platforms.
Dude, it is crazy.
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David, first of all, this sounds ridiculous to people.
We cover everything from silly to serious,
but this is definitely silly because the story sounds silly
because how can, and for anybody out there
who's eaten spicy food, which a lot of people have,
you know that it might burn your tongue
in a sensational way for a while.
It might even give you diarrhea, maybe,
but it's really not going to cause permanent damage.
I mean, Paul Rudd ate all the wings on Hot Ones,
and he's okay.
Yeah, I mean, some physicians had to come out and say,
listen, it may cause nausea and some burning feeling,
but it is not associated with permanent tissue damage.
I think that this article or this story
is going so viral right now
because it's sort of fitting in with people
thinking that America's focused on the wrong things
and that people are trying to get money
from frivolous lawsuits
because there was something regarding McDonald's, right?
Yeah, there was a chicken nugget lawsuit
that just got settled, and the lady won
because chicken nuggets had burned her daughter.
I think that was more legit because that had to do
with the heat of the food, which I could see doesn't burn.
It's like a hot rock, right? Yeah, yeah.
Hot things burn, but spicy things causing damage,
like skin damage to your throat and esophagus,
that's a crazy claim.
I also think this is going viral for a second reason, Andrew.
People would not think that a highly ranked
or academically accomplished,
medically accomplished person like a neurologist
would do such a thing. Would you agree with that?
Like a lot of people hold people in the medical professions
to a higher standard.
It's true. No, I mean, she's educated
and she understands health,
so she either understands something that we don't
or she's about to make a big mistake.
Yeah, she's a neurologist. She's not a gypsiologist.
I don't know. And then number three,
I do think that people are surprised
that she's Indian, to be honest.
Because a lot of people think that Indian people
already eat spicy food,
so why wouldn't they be able to handle Thai food?
Because curry came from India originally.
Yeah, so I mean, they serve Thai curry that originally,
curry does obviously come from India originally.
But anyways, let's get into the comments section.
Somebody said, well, now I'm even more interested
in trying their food.
How dare she try to sue them
for just giving everybody the thing that they wanted?
Because Andrew, spice has been a national trend,
like gastronomically, you know,
like everybody's desire for spice
has been surging upwards in America.
So why would you punish somebody
for just giving people what they want?
You know, like you can just, if you eat enough spicy food,
you can kind of look at a dish and be like,
oh, that's spicy. That dish looks spicy, but not that spicy.
All those chilies are dried or fried.
Right. They're not fresh, right?
Yeah, they're not fresh. So it's like already half the,
the hotness is out of it. I don't know.
This is-
The second comment section, Andrew,
came from a bunch of Indians.
But, you know, they're obviously probably more down
with the, you know, Pan-Asian ASU,
you know, type of thing going on at school.
And they were like, wait, she's Indian?
She's a disgrace to South Asians.
I can't believe somebody with the name Har-Jasleen
would be able to, like, not handle spice.
She, I can't believe she's being an Indian, Karen.
She's making us look bad.
Right, right, right. Yeah.
I mean, there was even comments about her,
like what type of Indian she is, always a Punjabi.
Now the food's not as spicy up there.
I'm like, dude, stop it. Come on.
No, some people were like, yeah, I'm South Indian.
She can't be South Indian because we always eat spicy food.
The Punjabis are like that.
Stop fighting, guys.
I don't know, maybe it turned into a provincial state
tribalism thing. Somebody said,
can I sue white restaurants for being too bland
when my food is too boring and tasteless?
And somebody said, she's not white.
And somebody said, yeah, how come everybody's
trying to jump on white people for no reason?
Everybody just assumed that she was white
when she wasn't even white to begin with.
Do you think it's true when these stories come out?
We know how it is, Andrew. On the Internet,
people want to comment before they do their due diligence,
right? The Internet comments are not about due diligence.
People just get a feeling that it's a white woman named Karen
and they're going after her.
Yeah. Here's what I would say real quick
for the white people watching. First of all,
you're off the hook on this one, all right?
Don't worry. You're good. You're good money.
I'm sure there's plenty of white people
who have had the Dragon Balls before.
And they're going to go to coup de taille now.
Yeah, and they're going to go back and be like,
see, I can do it. See, I don't know
what this Harzlan Jean girl is doing.
But I would say like, I mean, I don't think it's being that.
That's a joke, obviously.
I just don't think white people need to be like,
oh, you're being racist against us.
I was like, man, we're not there.
There's you know what it is. It goes to show you both anything.
In 2023, Andrew, anybody can be a Karen.
Yeah, that's not just a white thing anymore.
But also, you have to understand
this is the nature of the Internet.
So anybody's just going to assume.
Well, everybody just makes the most like stereotypical
baseline read, right?
Yeah, well, that's everything with a broad brush.
The comment section is stupid.
Sometimes somebody said typical American silliness.
I cannot possibly be responsible for my own actions.
So let's hire a lawyer.
So this kind of goes to basically people
complaining about just like, man,
America's head is not in the right place right now.
Everybody's trying to get rich.
So there were some theories that hard jazz
leans like headache away was the clinic wasn't doing well.
So she's trying to get the money from the Thai restaurant.
And a lot of people are bringing up like, man,
is it is it different when you sue a major corporation
like McDonald's versus a mom and pop Thai restaurant?
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
I mean, obviously, I don't even know
even if she wins this and she has a good case.
How much money is she even going to get?
Also, I'm just curious to know what her case is,
because it just seems so ridiculous that I'm just
I am curious to be like, yo, what evidence is there?
Right. She said order spicy stuff.
Sue's because it's spicy. Make it make sense.
She needs to get her brain checked,
even though she's the neurologist.
Somebody said Ben Carson is also a world class neurosurgeon.
He's literally one of the best neurosurgeons on the planet.
However, he is a complete moron
and any other topic aside from brain surgery.
So this kind of was a comment about people
just believing people in society
with very difficult 12, 15, 20 year degrees.
Are they necessarily more at a more higher moral standard
or intellectual standard for other aspects of life
that are not related to the study time
when like if you were in a village,
the doctor was like the smartest person
that you just had to trust because they knew the biology
and their job is to treat people and help people.
The most logical, right? Yeah.
And like, you know, I don't want to take that away
from doctors right now.
So I yeah, I would still hold doctors
and MDs to a higher standard.
I expect them to understand the physiological effects
that things have on their body and biology better.
For sure, I would.
Yeah. The lost was the leader in that show lost to
wasn't the doctor the leader?
Yeah. Yeah.
The doctor was the leader in the show lost, right?
Somebody said, sounds like she may have had
some sort of physical allergic reaction
or like something like medication, for example, the chemicals.
So maybe she's just drawing that conclusion
that the spice triggered something
like a preexisting condition
or something that's unique to her body
and then it cascaded and now she's suing
for the cascading effect.
I just think no one's ever heard of a case like this.
So that's why it's stupid
because even with the McDonald's thing,
McDonald's also got sued a long time ago
for making their coffee too hot.
So there's kind of makes sense.
You know, food can be too hot.
First of all, I love McDonald's, but I'm just saying,
yeah, the food can be hot.
You're saying temperature wise makes a lot more sense
than Scoville capsicums, right?
Dude, what I think, David,
what do you think about this theory?
It was so hot and spicy.
I mean, it was so spicy that she panicked
and then she drank a whole hot bowl of Tom Yum
to dilute the spice and then that burned her esophagus.
So actually it was the soup that was too hot
where she was trying to wash down the spice.
I don't know.
That's the only-
It's kind of a weird lawsuit
and it's funny that you said that, Andrew,
because apparently in the lawsuit,
she says, I asked for some yogurt to cool my mouth down
and I was not given any yogurt
and that's included in the lawsuit to strengthen her case.
Well, because they don't have yogurt at a Thai restaurant.
Yeah, because they don't eat yogurt.
Well, yeah, dude.
Yeah.
Well, maybe, yeah, I don't know.
Maybe hot pot restaurants would have, you know,
their Chinese yogurt available.
The Beijing Suan Nai, right?
Somebody said, man, all the takoyaki burn lawsuits
I could have started with xiaolongbao lawsuits.
I really missed out.
That's pretty funny.
Yeah, those foods definitely do kind of,
can burn your mouth.
David, I burned the top of my mouth the other day
eating that chicken chimichanga.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I did.
You had a fried chicken chimichanga the other day.
Somebody said, man, Indians eat a lot of spicy foods,
but the thing is, you know, different spices,
like from other cultures might affect you differently.
Somebody was basically saying,
if you grow up eating a certain type of spice,
you can handle those spices,
but when you go to another culture
with a different geography, different climate,
obviously different peppers,
you are not necessarily able to have that same threshold
of tolerance for those peppers.
I'm just saying, exhibit A, hot ones.
You got white celebrities eating spicy ass wings.
I'm just saying, they all survived.
I'm just saying, Paul Rudd survived.
But they have their yogurt.
I'm just saying, man.
Anyway, let's get to our takeaways, Andrew.
What do you think this is?
Is this embarrassing for this neurologist?
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, her Yelp reviews were already bad before this.
They're like in the gutter right now.
I think that this is really bad for her business.
I think she's gonna have to move her practice
if she wants to be anywhere else
because people are gonna hate her for this,
just PR reasons wise.
I think, I don't know what kind of money grab this is.
This doesn't seem like an easy one.
I don't know if she's gonna get a lot of money
because Coupe de Tai, it's still a mom and pop,
even though it's a nice mom and pop,
it's still not gonna have that much money.
Yeah, somebody was saying, like,
she might be getting like 50K max
even if she figured out a way to win.
Yeah, so I'm just not even understanding
what her play is here.
I just don't see how it's possible,
but here's the thing.
If she really does have skin damage
in her throat, esophagus, and tongue,
which apparently she probably has to,
for a lawyer to even pick up this case,
how did she get it?
And what type of burns is it from?
It doesn't sound like that's what cooked chilies do.
Right. Impossible.
It's gonna be a pretty crazy court presentation
in the civil lawsuit to figure out
how the Dragon Balls lead to this,
or led to this, this, this, this.
Yeah, it's so goofy.
Do you think there's any chance, Andrew,
because we don't know what happened, right?
I don't want to go against her case 100%,
because obviously I wasn't there, I don't know.
Do you think it's possible that food
is just getting so spicy and so trendy
that for some people with maybe weaker immune systems,
or, you know, there's that Uncle Roger meme
of like, why so weak?
You know what I mean?
Some people just cannot handle it,
but they're trying to get on the trend,
but they can't handle the trend.
Yeah, I mean, dude, there's just no way
this dish, I'm looking at the dish right now, literally.
Like, literally, it just looks like fried chicken balls.
Like, I just, dude, that doesn't even look spicy at all, man.
You're saying she just saw the McNugget lawsuit
and she just went for it.
I can't believe it, man, I cannot.
This is silly, man.
And last but not least, Andrew,
I want to ask this question.
Do you think that, like, business owners,
if this happens more and more frequently,
they're gonna feel like, man,
opening up a business serving the public
is not even worth it?
Because now every customer that comes in
could be a frivolous lawsuit,
and even if I win,
I gotta spend the money to lawyer up and fight it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I hope this lawsuit doesn't really go through.
First of all, you can start to sue anybody.
Like, there can be news about me suing you.
You know what I mean?
Like, just because I'm suing you
doesn't mean I'm going to win,
or it doesn't even mean
that it's gonna reach another level.
So I think it's at the beginning levels,
and I really hope Coup D'Etat or Coup D'Etat
doesn't have to spend any money fighting this
because it's such a ridiculous case.
And yeah, I do think that the judge
is gonna have to make a decision
because this is gonna set precedent
for a lot of other businesses.
You're right that it's gonna scare businesses
in even starting up and serving spicy food at all
if they know that they can get sued for it.
So I hope it doesn't win.
Now, first of all, if somehow she really did get burned,
I mean, I guess rightfully so,
but it just seems like, I guess I wanna see the case.
And yes, I do think you're right
that the judge is gonna have
to make a really big decision here
because if she wins,
then it's gonna scare a lot of business owners
from serving spicy food
knowing that they could get sued for it.
So yes, I do think this sets precedent,
so I hope she doesn't win unless she's supposed to win.
I don't know.
You know how Roe versus Wade was a landmark case, Andrew?
Is Hard Jazz Lean versus Coup D'Etat
about to be a landmark case for the spicy movement?
Aw, man.
Yo, you know how many Sichuan restaurants
are sweating right now thinking about this case?
I hope she didn't.
Listen, I don't know how she got burned.
We want to keep serving the spice.
Our customers, they love it,
but I don't wanna get sued.
All right, everybody, let us know in the comments down below
how silly this is.
Have you ever had food so spicy
you thought it actually damaged your mouth?
I don't know.
She's a neurologist.
Maybe it's all in her head.
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