Hong Kong pop star Coco Lee has taken her own life at the age of 48.
Now, this also follows a lot of other Asian stars that have recently taken their life as well,
and a lot of people are asking questions such as, like,
how do you actually stop this and why is this happening?
For sure. R.I.P. Coco Lee.
For the people who don't know, she was almost like the Britney Spears of the Chinese-speaking world,
you know, in the late 90s.
She had this U.S. Billboard chart hit,
Do You Want My Love in 1999?
I always remember that one.
And yeah, a lot of people are just wondering what's going on, Andrew,
because this sort of comes on the heels of a lot of people from various media platforms in Asia
that have also followed the same path, right?
Yeah, so we're going to go through the comments section.
There's a lot of different thoughts out there,
but we also want to give our own thoughts as well and kind of give a little bit more details about what's going on.
But yeah, please hit that like button.
Yeah, I mean, I think anytime somebody who is a big pop star passes away,
Andrew, especially in this tragic way, you know, there's a lot of speculation, right?
Especially about the drama and the messiness.
She was going through a messy divorce, you know, with this guy, Bruce Rockowitz,
who, you know, a lot of people don't know.
Was he a billionaire?
Was he a fake billionaire?
Who had more money?
Was it actually Coco or was it him?
Because now he's contesting the will.
And of course, it turns into a lot of like internet going against the people that they're blaming it on, right?
But it's unclear.
I'm sure it didn't help, but nobody knows what was the factors when it goes into something so extreme like this.
Yeah, I mean, I think details aside, which I think there could be so many different holes that you dig.
You can go down the rabbit hole.
You can try to be the internet.
You could be the internet investigator.
You could be the internet detective and try to pick these things up.
Oh, well, this happened and she made this post.
And I think that one thing you have to realize is no matter how rich and famous you are and no matter almost what you do,
anybody is capable of doing this, of taking their own life.
Like people at all different levels, poor people that aren't famous to rich people who are very famous have done it.
So I guess what it's so hard, but I think the key is like you having a strong mind and having good people around you.
And usually those things are the things that are lacking.
But I do think, you know, she was famous from the time she was 18 until still famous at 48.
That's not a regular life to live, though.
No, no.
I mean, listen, Britney Spears was famous ever since she was a kid and she had that crazy mental breakdown.
I'm sure tons of people thought and thought that she would take her own life.
Obviously now she's recovered.
She's kind of being like somewhat of a regular person now, but yeah, it is a it is a lot to weigh on you, you know,
and especially I do think it might affect, you know, even women more, you know, being famous for decades, you know,
specifically on Andrew.
She was going through surgeries on her leg that was designed to correct a birth defect.
She had breast cancer, you know, I guess there was some things with in vitro that weren't working because she was trying to have a kid,
but it didn't work for a number of years.
And obviously, I guess that opportunity had passed.
I mean, we got to get into the comments section, but a few quick thoughts are Andrew.
There's this saying that somebody put me on to recently that said, you know, there are happy mouses and sad Tigers,
you know, I think people look at people who quote-unquote have it all because she had money and she had Fame,
but a lot of people don't understand especially if you got the money through entertainment.
There's a lot of pressure that comes along with that too.
Yeah, and also for sure and especially if you're kind of like fan centric and you know,
if you're always relying on fans to pick you up and and the fans say good things about you,
but sometimes fans can also say horrible things about you.
So then that if you put your self-validation into what fans say,
then you are also subject to that and letting that affect how you feel about yourself.
But anyways, let's get into the comment section because I think that a lot of different people know information
or we're bigger fans of her than than we were.
So so like let's get us see what they're saying.
Somebody said this is so heartbreaking.
No matter how successful a person looks on the outside.
We never know the demons that they are battling behind closed doors.
That is why it is important to take care of your mental health seek help and check up on your loved ones.
Depression looks different for everyone.
Yeah, I think it's very easy to just say check up on people
and oh you got to get mental help you got to get therapy.
I think those things are very easy.
I think that at the end of the day like having a strong will and a strong soul
and a strong mind about yourself is it takes more than just like some therapy sessions.
It kind of takes your whole system around.
Well, I don't think you can just you know, I'm not an expert in this at all,
but it's probably takes a whole life change.
Like let's just say life is made out of 10 parts.
It probably takes a change to more than just one out of the and I think if you don't have that around you
and you need like a remedy for something for your depression.
I'm sure it's going to it's going to come out in more extreme form,
but certainly depression is no joke guys,
and I don't care who what there's a lot of people who have accomplished a lot of things in life
Andrew very successful whether it's in business or this field or that field who suffer from depression.
That is clear.
Somebody said sad thing is that mental health is very overlooked in being raised Asian.
I mean we've talked about this before is it true that mental health is like not looked after however,
Andrew in American media and entertainment whether we're talking about Bourdain
or Robin Williams or even back to Marilyn Monroe or like James Dean.
There's been a history of taking your own life through depression as well.
Yeah. Yeah, and I think also I wouldn't doubt that social media has to play into this
or you know, sometimes some people even feel like like,
oh like other famous people do it.
So like, you know, that's a way to go out.
Somebody said she should have looked for true love instead of just going with the billionaire.
Of course.
These are the judgy comments that sort of come out in there.
I don't know.
I was not I didn't keep up with like any of the gossip until these stories started coming out.
I mean Michelle Yeoh is married to a billionaire.
I feel like she's going to be fine.
People were just sort of memorializing her dude.
I grew up in Thailand in the 2000s.
She was bigger than Britney to us man.
She was just the king queen of late 90s Asian pop especially,
you know mixing it with the English and in language stuff.
Somebody said man.
She was more like Christina Aguilera because she did the Mandarin version of Reflections
when Mulan the Disney one came out and somebody said sometimes professional help will solve the issue,
but sometimes it will not and a lot of people were talking about ideation versus follow-through
because the truth is Andrew a lot of people probably at some point in their life have contemplated suicide,
right? Like yeah, like of the general population.
Yeah, even Tupac said he did, you know, a lot of people a lot of people have yeah,
somebody said I hope that she found the piece that she was looking for
and of course this turn into a whole,
you know debate about whether it's the right thing to do wrong thing to do
if you are at a point where you cannot find any further,
you know what I mean? Like what is the morality in it?
Right, right, right. I mean, I would say it'd be probably worse to hurt other people out of depression,
you know, but yeah, this is a pretty this is obviously one of the most extreme things you can possibly do.
Somebody said the eyes never lie.
They are the window to the soul.
Yeah, I do think the eyes are more telling oftentimes than the smiles though
because the smiles you can kind of fake a smile,
but it's hard to fake the look in your eyes,
but definitely yeah, I don't know if that what the science is behind this right?
Somebody said it could be hormonal too because when women go through menopause,
you know, there's a depression related,
but I do think that a lot of stuff is hormonal too though.
Like a lot of we're not unless you go to medical school or you take classes on it.
You are not like trained to understand the multitude of chemicals that make up a brain.
Well, I mean honestly when you start to look at all the factors.
And whether or not these are true or not.
I mean, it seems like there's a lot of elements coming together,
you know, that could be kind of sad like given everything that we just said
that what based on what people know about her life
and then not to mention the details that we don't know about her life, you know?
Yeah, somebody said maybe medicine helps or maybe it hurts though
because a lot of people are debating right now and about you know,
you know, it goes into a whole debate in the Western world right now about Big Pharma
and whether people should be on drugs or not drugs
or because a lot of people they you know,
how we're talking about earlier about shifting all 10 aspects of your life.
A lot of people they're like, oh just keep all those the same
and then you take a pill and then and then people are also talking about like what type of drugs
like are we talking about the less regulated ones like a shrooms
or something that's supposed to make you more like euphoric
or like give you a different sense of being you know, things like that.
Could that have helped?
I don't know. Yeah, somebody said man.
I had wish they had access to drugs like shrooms in Asia or at least weed possibly.
I think you know guys like I said, I'm not a subject matter expert.
I would say allowing certain things is so tough to say
and because probably for some people it could help their situation.
But if you Institute some sort of like mass allowance of certain things some people
who are allowed access to those things it's going to hurt their situation
because each of these issues is so incredibly individual.
That's what I think somebody says.
How come it seems like there's such a rise of addiction
and mental health issues Society in 2023 seems broken.
Do you think this is just a media cycle Andrew
or there is something legitimately wrong about the times
that we're in is it social media because like we said,
this is not just isolated to one region.
I mean, it's all of Asia. It's all of East Asia in particular,
but a lot of stars whether you're talking about drama singers Etc, Etc.
Yeah, I think a lot of famous people who have been in the public eye
and kind of are these people who want to leave a legacy.
I think sometimes it's easy that it could cross your mind like hey,
well, what would happen if I took my own life if I died right now,
like how would my legacy be left?
And I think that I think anybody can think about suicide,
but I think particularly if you're famous you're thinking about your legacy
and what do people act like or think like after you're gone
and you know, a lot of people think like that.
There's been a lot of songs about that to somebody said one piece of advice
that I actually learned is that you just have to talk to somebody
and just bring it up directly asking them.
Hey, are you thinking of killing themselves?
Studies have shown this does not increase the risk that they'll do it,
but it does increase the risk that they will tell you that something is going on.
So basically somebody said I want to just use this as an opportunity
to let everybody know you should normalize bringing it up.
Yeah.
No, I do think even if you think someone is having thoughts of killing someone else
and you bring it up to him be like, hey, are you thinking about killing somebody
and then they're like, oh shoot.
Whoo.
Well, maybe if it's that obvious,
because you're saying maybe subconsciously people are like dropping hints.
Yeah, I think so.
I'm not sure man.
I'm not a psychologist,
but it seems like people would rather drop hints and make it kind of like mysterious,
but if you kind of call it out and it brings it up to the public,
then people are like, oh, oh, it's almost like shining a light on it.
And then everything scrambles away.
Like we said guys everybody's situation is it's everybody's there.
Maybe perhaps, you know, my general takeaway is this like I think we can all look at these things her divorce.
Oh, she didn't exercise enough.
Oh, she didn't do yoga enough.
She didn't meditate enough.
Oh, she wasn't religious.
Oh, she needed like a lot of people were saying.
Oh man, if you work at an animal shelter that has been shown to be the number one suicide.
I've had she didn't say meditation have kids all these factors.
We can look at and kind of give it a percentage and guess about it in our minds.
But some people are maybe just going to like they're just like I don't know if you can fully stop this,
you know, because it's been a part of actually Society for forever.
Yeah, as long as written history goes,
I think whether it's a you know, people in the royal court or high-profile people in any world, right?
Yeah, but the best way is to have mental health checkups along the way,
you know, I think you can't check up on someone when it's too late when they're already 9 out of 10 10 out of 10
when they're already like, you know older.
It's almost like her whole rise up people got to be checking,
you know, and then it's still even then you never know what's going what's going through someone else's brain.
So I think that's the hardest thing about it.
I do believe people are normalizing and Andrew something that sort of shocked me
and I know was viewed as very taboo in the NBA world.
Andrew John Wall recently came out and said that he had contemplated taking his own life.
Yeah, and that's super something you would not think that John Wall would say.
Yeah. No some other NBA players had said that they they suffered from depression to Kevin Love, right?
Yeah, Kevin Love Jamar Derozan.
I think that you know, I think it takes a lot of courage especially to talk about that as an athlete
because it makes you sound weak but even as a pop star,
you know, a lot of people don't want to mention that a lot of people just want to put on that public image.
Like I'm strong, you know, I do it for my fans.
You don't want to be vulnerable.
But sometimes I do think you know, when you feel like people are being overly dramatic.
Sometimes that's what their way of saying.
Hey guys, I've thought about it.
But the way that it's publicly sounding is like it's a cry for attention
because you know what I mean how some fans might look at her being depressed as a cry for attention,
but it could just be her releasing also her thoughts about it as well.
So then you never know because as a fan are you judging it?
Are you judging it like oh, they're just doing that for attention
and they want everybody to feel bad for him or oh, wow.
This is actually a real thing, right?
It's very very difficult to judge.
I do think being a star in Asia you are and I'm not saying that this played into it all
but I do know the structure of being a star in Asia and is different than being a star in the West
like you almost have to be a really good role model in the East versus in the West.
There's a little bit more room to be like I guess what self-destructive.
Yeah.
Yeah, I would say so.
Yeah.
I mean, what do you think about the final comment that people were just like saying,
you know, obviously there was a lot of people in the comments again,
man all these people that seem like they have it all like they're rich
and they're famous they're in all these elite circles of you know,
this owner of this company or something like that and but yeah,
it clearly goes to show you like I said earlier like it's not about just
like how much money you have in the bank or how high your status is right if you're unhappy.
Yeah, I think that I don't those things don't truly make you happy
and happy for a long time and happy is dude happy is just a feeling man.
Like you kind of have to have a larger mission and whether that's having kids
or that's having a charity or having some type of other mission besides just music
and being rich or being famous or being pretty
or being like having all this attention then this I would say that those things more bring dopamine
than they do long term. It's not about feeling happy.
You can take a bunch of drugs and feel happy right
because you can force even your serotonin receptors open to dump
and you have to feel purposeful usually people with a purpose
and I mean, but it also can be a hormonal imbalance inside your brain.
I think it's so different. Like I said person to person.
I'm not a subject matter expert. I'm not trying to pass judgment,
you know at all. I'm just trying to bring it up
and one thing that I would think that would really help Andrew in Asia specifically
is if there was a different way to explain mental health.
It wasn't so necessarily, you know,
how like the Western version is all about like explaining it through these terms
that I think a lot of very hard for Asians to understand.
I think a more technical understanding of more valves
and different chemicals wouldn't help Asians understand it.
Oh, you mean like, you know, it's not going to be like this flowery read like seven books version
and go you because Asians the culture is different.
You mean like you want to hear some more scientific remedies.
That's what even resonates with me more than you know, the other style.
So anyway guys, let us know what you think in the comment section below.
Of course, keep it respectful.
Do you think that Asians need to look more into mental health specifically
for the celebrities in the media
or just in society in general and of course,
let us know what is your favorite moment of Coco Lee in the comment section below,
but of course our main goal is to always have a takeaway for the community
and you know, just so everybody can like have take away something from this r.i.p.
Until next time we hop up boys.
We out peace.