Marilyn Monroe Forever In Our Hearts 1926 - 1962 - Interview, Photos And Footage

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I only know I want to be wonderful like so.
Here.
Wonderful.
Oh, that's awfully close.
Awfully close?
Let's see, let's pull the table over.
Frightening thing, you know.
This object here.
Well, I'll put it in my pocket.
Okay.
Five came out in one month.
And Howard Hughes had just had his airplane accident, remember?
And he sent for them and I went to 20th where Ben Lyon was head of casting.
And didn't I tell you that?
No.
Well, he came out.
There was a long waiting.
I mean, hard benches.
We were sitting out.
People of all ages and sizes and everything.
He came and he says, who is this girl?
So, he said, I look so fresh and young.
And I don't know what else.
He was very enthusiastic.
I mean, he said, oh, he says, you're, oh, you know, he had high hopes for me.
Well, they made a technical attest the following day, which was unusual.
But they sort of sneaked it in.
All of them got together in the talent department.
And they put me under contract, under a stock contract for a year.
And then I was dropped.
And then I was hired at Columbia.
Then when I was hired back after the Asphalt Jungle, you know, the 20th Century Clock.
Then he said, I understand you used to be here.
I said, that's right.
Well, things are quite different now.
And he said I had a three-dimensional quality having to do with sex.
He says, quite reminiscent of Harlow.
And it was interesting since Ben Lyon had been saying that.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
Because, well, I wanted my mother's maiden name because I felt that rightfully was my name.
I couldn't take my father's name very well.
So, I wanted at least something that was related.
So, I said, I want the name Monroe, which was my mother's maiden name.
And the true things rarely get into circulation.
It's usually the false things.
Yes, that's what she claimed.
But as a friend of my husband says, he was one of our lesser presidents.
Truly.
I was at the Hollywood Studio Club.
Although they say that I wasn't.
I was.
I know.
It was me.
It happened to.
It was I.
It was me.
I.
It was I.
It was all true.
I was behind in the rent.
And they usually let you get about a week behind in the rent.
You're the only one who doesn't support this wonderful, you know.
Wonderful.
It's not so wonderful unless you're working and paying your rent.
Tom Kelly had asked me.
I had done some beer ads for beer for him.
And he had asked me to pose nude.
Actually, I'd be in a bathing suit or something like that.
So, he asked me to pose nude.
And his wife, Natalie Kelly, she'd be in the dressing room.
I'd be getting dressed and changing.
So, she said to him, probably, you know, she's got to do nudes or something.
And then sometimes other photographers.
Willinger had asked me.
Well, we won't put his name on it.
Had asked me.
And I would say, I don't do.
I'm sorry.
And one time, Andre Dienes.
I went on an interview.
And he said, so you do nudes.
I said, no, I don't do nudes.
Never.
So, I always went around saying never.
And then, I got so far behind the rent.
Four weeks and I owed.
I was in debt and everything.
So, I called up and I said, are you sure they won't recognize?
He said, I promise.
I said, well, if it's at night and you don't have any helpers.
You know, to put up the lights.
And I said, I don't know.
I said, I'm shy and I don't want to expose myself to, you know, all the people you have.
And I said, and at night.
He said, all right, just Natalie and myself.
So, we did it.
And that's all.
He just spread out some red velvet and had me lie down in the red velvet.
I thought, you know, they put some kind of lotion on you or something.
Nothing, just, you know.
It was very simple and drafty.
Calendar?
No, they've all been stolen.
And I wanted to keep one for my grandchildren.
But I can't keep them.
I don't know who takes them.
If I get a copy and I pack it away, it will be gone.
Yes.
By the time it was known, I had already done The Asphalt Jungle.
I was hired at Fox.
And I remember they called on the set, the publicity department, and said something to the effect,
did you post for a calendar?
And I said, yes.
Anything wrong?
There was great anxiety.
And they said, whoa, don't say you did.
Say you didn't.
So, I said, but I did.
I signed the release and I did, and I feel I should say it.
So, I did say that I did.
And they were very unhappy about it.
And then the cameraman who was working on the film at that time,
he got a hold of one and he asked me if I'd sign it.
And so I said, yes, I would.
I signed it and I said, to him and his name.
And I said, this isn't my best angle.
And of course, they got madder, the studio.
And they said, but you can't sign those.
And I said, but it's me and they'd rather have these than the other sign.
If they're friends, I don't sign for strangers, but they're friends.
Or some I said, do you like me better with long hair?
Because the hair was down to here, my hair.
So, I did the Asphalt Jungle.
Little by little, I think Fox got used to it.
No, I was really hungry.
You know, to eat, when you live at the Hollywood Studio Club,
you get two meals a day.
You get breakfast and you get dinner.
Of course, it doesn't taste very good, but still, you eat.
I always supported myself.
I was never what you'd call, I don't know, how can I say it?
No one else ever supported me in my life, in my older life.
Well, I didn't. I had no family.
I mean, I had no place to go just to have a roof over my head.
Of course, a lot of people said, well, why didn't you go
and get a job in a ten-cent store, something like that?
And because I didn't have a high school education, they wouldn't accept me.
That's not true.
Neither are true.
My mother's first husband was named Baker.
Her second husband was Mortenson, but she was long since divorced when I was born.
So, on my birth certificate, I believe it says, profession, Baker.
So she was just trying to think quickly, I guess, and said Baker.
Well, in all my school records, it was known as Jean Baker.
In fact, I was always told, by the way, when I was very young,
that my father was killed in an automobile accident in New York before I was born.
When I was very young, I was told that.
Yes.
As regards your mother, to you, she was just a woman with a red hair?
Actually, she was.
You see, when I was very young, I called every woman I would see.
I'd say, well, there's a mama.
And if I would see a man, I'd say, there's a daddy, or papa, I guess you'd say in French.
So, to learn that she was my mother was quite a shock.
You know, it was a woman with red hair.
The people I was staying with, I was about three,
and one morning I was having a bath, actually,
and I referred to the woman as mama,
and she said, I'm not your mother, the one who comes here with the red hair and so forth.
She's your mother.
Don't call me mother anymore.
Call me aunt, so-and-so.
But the one I was concerned was her husband.
I said, but he's my daddy.
She said, no.
You call him uncle, so-and-so.
Although they weren't my aunt and uncle.
I never lived with my mother.
I don't know about the 12 days old.
I don't remember, but I know I was very young.
No, I used to ask where my mother was when I, oh, I don't know.
Well, when I was put in the orphan's home, and I refused to go into the orphan's home.
I mean, I said, I saw the orphan.
I could read at 10, orphan, and I put my feet down on the sidewalk,
and they had to drag me, and I said, I'm not an orphan.
And so I thought, well, she's dead somewhere,
and then later some people said, well, it's better you forget about your mother.
I said, but where is my mother?
And they said, well, it's better you forget about her.
She's dead.
So I was told that.
So whatever invented, I don't know what they mean, but it was all kind of vague.
You know, I couldn't find out anything for sure.
I wasn't eight, because when I was eight, I remember where I had,
when I had a birthday at eight years old, and so I would still be seven,
and my mother did buy a home, but I didn't see her very often.
It was very, well, the circumstance, very unhappy and kind of haphazard.
I didn't see her very much.
The English couple that I told you, they were the couple.
They came to live there in the home, but we only had a home for about, oh, maybe,
I don't even think it was three months.
With the English couple, they used to take me to the Egyptian,
where they used to have monkeys in cages outside,
and they put me there early in the morning, and I'd watch the monkeys.
I tried to fit my foot.
My feet prints are there now, but I would try to, you know,
but they had these, what do you call those, high-vamped.
Yeah, and I never could get my feet in there.
My feet were always too big.
Every Saturday and Sunday, I was taken there because they worked during the week.
They worked very hard, and they didn't want to be bothered with a child around the house, I think.
You know, you can't blame them.
They were very tired, and so I was taken there in the morning.
I'd wait till the movie opened for 10 cents.
I would go in, sit in the first row, and I watched all kinds of movies,
like Cleopatra with Claudia Colbert.
That I remembered very well.
I'd sit there, and I'd see it over and over and over and over again,
till late at night.
I was supposed to come out at dark, but, of course, I didn't know when it was dark,
just before dark, because with their conscience,
they didn't want me to come, you know, at night,
but I never knew when it was dark.
Besides, it was much nicer there.
You know, just seeing the movie over and over and over and over again.
No, it didn't matter.
I knew I'd eat when I got home, eat something.
Actually, I don't think there was 12, but there were quite a few,
because I was going to stay with these people from New Orleans,
and then suddenly I was taken to the orphan zone.
Let's see.
So counting the orphan zone.
Do you want me to count all of them?
I'll try. Let's see.
Three.
You see, some places I lived, I was taken there at the end of the school term,
and they were planning to keep me,
but then, after the summer, they'd had enough,
so, or for whatever reason, and then I was taken to another place,
so that's why there's so many.
I know I went to six different grammar schools.
You know, that's before you're in the seventh grade,
but I'll try to recall. Let's see.
I'm to nine so far, just a second.
Ten. Ten.
But I moved back to a place where I had stayed,
so that would make 11 different moves, but ten.
Ten counting the orphan zone.
Ten different places.
It was such a bright, cheerful place.
I guess it is now.
They've made a lot of improvements.
I used to sit up in the window and cry,
because I'd look over and I'd see RKO,
and I knew my mother had worked there,
and she'd been a cutter there,
and all the kids were asleep.
I used to sit up in the window,
and at night,
and as I say when everyone was asleep,
and when I went there to work,
during class by night, I stood there,
and I wanted to see back,
to see if I could see the orphanage,
but you can't.
It's too many sound stages in a way,
and office buildings and homes.
Oh, by the way, I slept in a room with 27 beds,
because they say some other number,
I know, and I read it,
because you had to work your way to the honor bed.
You start with one,
well, really the 27th bed,
and you had to work your way down and around,
and then you could work yourself into the other dormitory,
which had fewer beds,
but I got there once,
but once I was putting on my shoes,
and the matron said,
She says,
Well, we lived there.
We all had jobs.
I had different jobs.
I worked for a while.
Oh, we'd get up at 6 in the morning,
and we did our work before we went to a public school.
Well, it's bad to have children from an institution like that
go to a public school,
because in a public school the kids say,
Oh, they're from the home.
They're from the home.
I always tried to go around as if I were one of the other kids.
We all were ashamed to have been from New Orkantown.
Well, I was very tall and thin.
I was as tall as I am now,
and very, very thin.
Eleven things changed.
And I never grew any taller,
but they always said,
Oh, she's going to be a very tall girl.
Oh, in fact, when I was first going,
when I first went to the orphanage,
and they pulled me in,
you know, they took one arm here and pulled me in.
I kept crying, screaming,
I'm not an orphan.
And then there was a dining room straight ahead,
and there were these hundred, you know,
one hundred kids sitting there eating at five o'clock,
and then a child, you know,
you're ashamed to cry in front of other children.
So I stopped right away,
and then the children filed out
and went to their,
they were sitting on the porch after dinner,
they usually did that,
on the girls' side,
and they all thought I was at least fourteen,
because I was so tall.
They thought I was going to be an ad girl,
whoever they were.
Well, anything tasted good to me.
I always, when I was a child,
I ate everything,
because the families that I lived with,
they said they never saw a child
who would eat everything.
I'd eat anything, everything.
Oh, there was one other family
I stayed with for a short time,
but it was only for about three weeks.
I forgot to mention,
Meigslelem.
I liked singing,
athletics,
English.
I hated arithmetic.
I never had my mind on it.
You know, I was always dreaming out the window.
And then, too,
another thing people would remark,
not only that I would eat everything,
but I never complained when I went to bed.
I would even say,
I think I'll go to bed now.
They'd say, well, that's very unusual,
because children, they say,
no, I don't want to go to bed.
But what I would do
would be to go in my room,
except that the orphanage home was different.
But otherwise, I would go in my room,
and if I had seen a movie,
I would act out every part.
Only I would act out before that happened
or after,
and I would act out all the parts,
the men as well as the women.
That's what I'd be doing,
you know, standing up on my bed,
being taller and even.
Just the feeling,
what he said and what she said
and what he felt and she felt,
and usually be sad.
How old were you then, five or six?
Five, six, exactly.
First time was at the orphanage,
and then later in my teens,
I stuttered,
and I was,
they elected me
secretary of the English class,
no, secretary of the minutes of the English class,
whatever you call it,
and then I'd say,
minutes of the last meeting.
I'd go,
Oh, it was terrible.
When?
I don't know,
let's say I had the orphanage and
after I left, I guess,
and then when I was about 13,
I took it up again.
It just, I don't know,
how it happened.
I just stuttered.
Sometimes if I'm very nervous or excited
or something, I stutter.
In fact, one time,
they were doing a,
I had a small part in a movie,
and the assistant director came in
and yelled at me.
Oh, he talked awful.
And he,
and so I,
when I got into the scene,
instead of my lines,
and the director came up,
he was furious,
he says, you don't stutter.
I said, that's what you think.
Oh, it's painful.
Oh, God.
Well, when I went to live with a woman,
her name is Mrs. E, period,
Anna Lauer,
and I used to do the dishes
in the evening,
and whistling,
and she said,
I never heard Charles sing so much.
So, I did it during that period.
I liked being with her,
staying with her.
I always kept in touch with her.
She, I loved her very dearly.
And then, I adored her.
Well, he used to call me the mouse,
because I didn't,
I never said anything,
and I was quiet,
most of the time,
except with other children.
I had imagination.
Other children liked to play with me,
because I could think of things.
You know, I'd say,
now we're going to have a murder,
then a divorce,
and then a,
and then they'd say,
how do you think?
I'd say, I don't know.
So, other children,
you know,
I could be myself
without the children,
but with grown-ups,
I was always very quiet.
Went around about doing my work,
you know,
whatever I had to do.
Oh, no.
Okay.
I don't want to say too much.
Well,
uh,
Grace arranged it.
She and her husband
were going to, um,
West Virginia,
and they were going to put me in a,
uh,
a home,
or, you know,
like I'd been before,
or,
I could marry this, uh,
boy,
who was 21,
at the time.
So, I married.
Oh, no.
I was 15 turning 16.
You know,
when marriage took place,
I was just turned 16.
In the state of California,
you can marry,
uh,
a 16 girl.
But it was arranged
when I was 15.
No.
Not at all.
Then, uh,
he was drafted
to go
into the Army,
but instead he went
to the Merchant Marine.
Yes,
towards the end of the war,
I divorced him.
I divorced him
when I was 20.
I went to Las Vegas
to divorce him.
I don't know how far it is.
If they let you do one thing,
they'll let you do the other.
Well, how does it feel
being yourself?
That's exactly how I feel.
I didn't know.
One time,
a very wonderful director,
Kazan,
said I had no ambition.
That was my problem,
my trouble.
But I, I,
I would like very much
to be,
uh,
a fine actress.
A true actress,
is what I mean by fine.
A real actress.
I would like to be happy,
but
who's happy?
I think
trying to be happy
is almost as difficult
as
trying to be
a good actress.
You have to work
to be both of them.
Well, I think
comedy
is, uh,
harder for me.
I mean,
it's just harder
to act comedy,
I think,
for me.
It seems that way.
Uh,
but I would like, uh,
a variety of parts.
You know,
dramatic,
sometimes comedy.
Not musical too much,
because,
not too much,
because,
um,
I never studied it.
I always wanted to,
but I never did.
And,
it's very
difficult.
And after you've finished it,
they say,
oh,
you just did it like that,
and,
really,
all you do is,
so much.
It looks so easy.
It looks easy.
It looks like you just walk through it.
And I've never studied that,
either singing or dancing.
Really.
It is.
It takes, uh,
it takes its toll.
I think an artist,
uh,
artist,
I apologize
to you,
but to them,
I apologize.
Sometimes,
you know,
the work is so,
you know,
you,
you try to be true,
and,
uh,
you feel sometimes
it's on the verge
of a kind of craziness.
But it isn't really craziness.
It's really,
uh,
getting the
truest
part of yourself
out.
And it's very hard,
you know.
I mean,
it's not easy,
let's say.
And yet,
it can be very simple
at the same time,
um,
being an artist.
Because sometimes,
you think,
oh,
well,
all I have to do is true.
But sometimes,
it doesn't come so easily.
Well,
you know,
I always have a secret,
um,
feeling that I'm really
a fake or something.
Or a phony.
You know how people feel
about themselves.
They have
something secret
they feel about themselves.
And I always feel
that.
I know my teacher says,
why do you feel that
about yourself?
And then he starts to say,
but you're a human being.
I said,
yes,
I am.
I said,
but I feel like I have to
do more.
He says,
no.
He says,
you start with yourself.
Lee Strasberg.
I think,
probably,
he changed my life
more than any other
human being
that I've met.
Including,
um,
everyone.
Um,
because,
when I started,
um,
to work with him,
I would sort of
assume something.
And he says,
what are you doing?
I said,
well,
I have to get into the part.
He says,
no,
but you're a human being,
so you start with yourself.
I said,
but with me?
He said,
yes,
with you.
So,
um,
in a way,
if you can
concentrate,
um,
correctly,
I don't mean
deep thinking
where you,
you know,
pounding the skull.
But,
if you can just
concentrate
simply,
that's what I mean
about being easy.
Anyway,
he helped me a great deal.
I have a hard time at it.
I don't know.
I might
leave something out,
but I won't
put anything else
in extra.
I might leave something out
because,
uh,
to my benefit,
or somebody else's benefit,
hurt people
or hurt myself sometimes,
you know.
We all want
to protect ourselves
also.
So,
uh,
I might leave something out.
But,
um,
I,
I don't think I,
uh,
no,
I,
I don't think I lie.
At least if I
would try,
it's difficult.
But I do want
to be wonderful.
You know,
when I walked out
of 20th Century Fox
and I went to New York
and I stayed
for I don't know
how many months,
15 months,
13 months,
I don't know
how many months,
and the lawyer,
you know,
he said,
uh,
oh,
he was telling me,
uh,
about my tax deductions
and I don't know what
and about,
oh,
the lawyer for
20th Century Fox
and I said,
I don't know about that.
I only know
I want to be wonderful.
Couldn't say that
to a corporation lawyer.
They'd think I'm mad.
And that's
at the bottom
of everything,
you know,
that I do want.
People were making them up.
It's not true.
There was nobody there
that was smart.
They never made them up.
And they're often
more advanced
by how qualified.
Yeah, like,
you know,
they ask you questions
like,
well,
just an example,
what do you wear to bed?
Do you wear a pajama top
at the bottom
of the pajamas
or a nightgown
or what kind of...
So I say
Chanel No. 5
because it's
the truth.
And yet I don't want
to say nude,
you know,
but it's the truth.
I don't know.
All of those things
come from the truth.
If you ever get
any of those things
you want to ask,
what does it mean?
I'll tell you
where the truth
comes from
or what it does mean
because I,
as I say,
I don't,
I leave things out.
I don't elaborate
sometimes.
But it'll be
from the truth
because otherwise
it's hard to know
where to start
if you don't start
with the truth.
Okay,
here,
I get up
early in the morning.
I jump into my clothes,
get my belongings
together,
get in the car
and I have a driver.
He brings me
to the studio
and I have somebody
waiting here
who makes my breakfast
and they start
with the hair
and the makeup
and I eat
while they're doing
my hair
and then they leave
it that way
while the makeup man,
he comes in
he does the makeup
and
then they comb out
the hair later
and they put on
the body makeup
and then the clothes.
I don't like
to rush this process
because I find
if I rush
I'm very tired.
By the time I have
to do a scene
I'm all worn out
from rushing
through the hair
and the makeup
and the clothes
so I like to
do it leisurely
like I like to dress
when I go out
in the evening.
I love to dress
leisurely.
I like to soak
in the tub
and leisurely
I like music.
I think that we're
rushing too much
nowadays.
That's why people
get nervous.
Well I don't think
I'm late all the time
but maybe it is
because I can't
go as fast
as other people.
You know people
that get in
automobiles
they run into
each other
because they never
stop.
They're going like that
and I don't think
that mankind
it's intended
for them to go
like that.
They're not
supposed to be
like machines.
And I think you
get more done
the other way
by doing it
more sensibly
more leisurely.
Mr. Cukor
on this film
has been
very wonderful
to me
in as much as
he lets me
come in an hour later
than I would
usually come in.
So
it helps
because I'm
fresher
at the end of the day.
It helps.
He says he does it
for my work
and I think it's so.
I think actors
in movies
work too long
hours
or too long
Always.
Nearly always.
Sometimes I feel
a doom
set over me.
Just as I'm
walking on the stage
it's just like
a doom
sets on me.
I don't know why
but I get over it
sometimes.
Sometimes it lasts
all day.
Well
I want to do
my best
the best that I can do
in that moment
when the camera
starts
until it stops.
That moment
I want to be
perfect.
As perfect
as I can make it.
I used to go to
movies on
Saturday night
when
for instance
when I
worked
in a factory
and that was
my only
time that I could
enjoy myself
really.
That I
really relaxed
and enjoyed
and
which is on tape
trying to think
excuses.
And
so
I used to be
very disappointed
if I went to a movie
because I waited
all week to go
to the movie
and I worked
hard for the money
that I
spent
and
if I went to a movie
and it's a bad movie
or I thought people
didn't do their best
kind of
did it sloppy
or something
I really was
mad
you know
angry
when I left
because then I
didn't have anything
to go on
for a whole week
and wait
for another week.
So
I always feel
that I work
for the ones
who work hard
and they go to the
box office
and put down
their money
and they want
to be entertained
or
I always feel
I do it for them
but I do care
because I know
how the others
feel.
You know
they've worked
hard all week
and
my favorite star
then
oh I liked
anybody who was good
sometimes they'd be good
sometimes they wouldn't
you know
oh well that was
when I was very small
that's when I was
seven
years old
when I was
seven years old
my favorite
was
Jean Harlow
and the reason
why she was
my favorite
because
she had white hair
and I had white hair
and they used to
call me
toe head
I don't know
how you'd say it
in French
but it was
white hair instead
and I dreamed of
having golden hair
but instead
mine was white
and so when
she had white hair
I felt
sort of
close to her
because she had
white hair
I had white hair
and Clark Gable
I'm sure he won't
mind if I say it
because in a
Freudian sense
it's
supposed to be
very good
I used to
always
say
think of him
as my father
I pretended
that he was
my father
I never pretended
he was my mother
I don't know why
but I always
pretended he was
my father
I was just
seven years old
and he was
a very young man
and
I thought
that's how
I wanted
my father
to look
I think
it's
a rare
thing
and not
to be
discounted
at all
not to be
pushed away
in a corner
I find
that's why
I like poetry
I think
also
they don't
discount it
they take it
for it's worth
it's value
it's one of the
most important
things that ever
happens to us
I think the
most important
thing
I think love
and work
are the only
things that
really happen
to us
and everything
else is just
doesn't really
matter
and I think
one without
the other
isn't so good
I think they
both need
I think
I don't know
I'm only 34
I have
a few years
to go yet
but I think
it's
I think
it's the most
important thing
because even
work is a
kind of love
it's something
that you'd love
to do
even
workers
factory workers
I used to
take pride
in the way
that I would
do it
even though
I did it
very fast
I would take
a pride
in the fact
that I would
do it exactly
perfect
as perfect
as I could
you know
so I think
that
well
I guess
I'm a little
impetuous
exclusive
I think
I am
because I have
very few friends
but not to be
exclusive
it's just that
I like
oh no
I like
people
but for friends
I like
few people
a few people
well
I met him
the year
he retired
he had already
retired
and
I saw him
for about
a year and a half
two years
and we married
in San Francisco
and
his background
you know
his family
they were immigrants
and they had
a very difficult
time
and
when he was
young
he
had a very difficult
time
he was a wonderful
athlete
and he could
hit a baseball
anything
throwing his sister
he could
hit
so
he understood
some things
about me
and
I understood
some things
about him
and we based
our marriage
and I say
some things
well
I don't want
to say that
I just say
we understood
some things
about each other
he has
a very
sensitive nature
in many respects
you know
one thinks
of an athlete
as being
I don't know
not having that
but there's
they do
our marriage
wasn't a happy one
it ended in
nine months
unfortunately
I don't know
what else to say
do I feel
happy in life
let's see
let's say
I
hope I'm
finding happiness
right
well for me
if I can realize
certain things
in my work
I come
the closest
to being happy
and I can say
that also
about my life
well it only happens
I think
in moments
sometimes when
I'm working
and
and I'll be able
to
fulfill
a scene
truthfully
and
and I think
I'm
the happiest
well I find
it very stimulating
to keep studying
and working
but I'm not
just generally
happy
if I'm generally
anything
I guess I'm generally
miserable
I don't know
sometimes
I think
I don't know
I think sometimes
I do
sometimes I don't
which is natural
I guess for everyone
I would like
to be more
sociable than I am
on some days
sometimes I'll chat
when I'm not
pleased
but sometimes
the work itself
requires
more
that I'm
quiet
and to myself more
and other days
like doing a musical number
I try not to get
too
I like to be more
outgoing
because I have
that's what I have
to express
and so I try to keep
it general
I try to
even if I feel
like it or not
I'll try to make
the effort
to make
contact
with people
around me
yes because
I could easily
be alone
it doesn't bother me
to be alone
some people I know
they
they don't like
to be alone
I don't mind it
I need it as
a rest
and yeah
it kind of
refreshes myself
yeah
and a rest
yes
I think there's
two
things
in human beings
that they
as I think there
is in myself
that they want
to be alone
but they also want
to be together
you know
because I think
I have also
and I think
that's the way
with people
also
but there is
something in people
they want
they need
solitude
for a while
yes it was
he came
with
Elia Kazan
on the set
of a picture
called
Young as you feel
and
as he described it
I was crying
when he met me
a friend of mine
had died
even though
I was in tears
he introduced me
I'd forgotten
but
he said
I was crying
you know
in tears
weeping
when he met me
then I didn't see him
for about
four years
I used to think
that maybe he might
see me in a movie
for instance
there'd be two pictures
playing
they used to have
I thought
I might be in the other movie
he'd see me
and I'd want to do my best
because
he said that he thought
that
I should act
on the stage
and
people who were around
heard him say it
they laughed
but he said
no I'm very serious
at that time
that was in 1950
in 1950
does one ever know that
I mean I know
certain qualities
that I remembered at the time
but
I don't know exactly
what
I think that's
mysterious
no I can't say
he gave me
a feeling of security
there wasn't any reason
for him to
really
except
he treated me
as a human being
and he was
a very sensitive
human being
and treated me
treated me
as a sensitive
person
also
I can't
I don't know how to describe
no
of course it's very difficult
let's talk about
the end of her life
what
what was that like
to find out
it was very sad
I was in New York
July 18th
we finished working together
I went to New York
I was putting together
I was doing a big
series with
a big
layout
with a cover
for a magazine called
Cosmopolitan Magazine
also
we had
done this book
together
I had put it all together
and
on a Friday afternoon
I was in my office
at the Sunday newspapers
I was a correspondent
and I get a phone call
and Marilyn Monroe
was calling
this is Friday
August 4th
August 3rd I guess
yeah
and
1962
and she wants to know
how things are going
I said fine
everything looks great
the book
I've got it all together
and she says
I've got to see you
it's very important
I says I'm trying to
put everything together
Marilyn
George
she said it's very important
there are many things
we have to talk about
and there are some things
that are very
very
shocking
that you must know about
you must come out
she sounded very sad
I said
if you feel
it's that urgent
then I'll come out
I'll
this is Friday
I'll try to get out there
Monday
I'll fly out Monday
and so
that weekend
I went to the country
and
Sunday morning
with my brother-in-law
we went to a little store
to get some rolls
and things
and I sat in the car
listening to the radio music
and my brother-in-law
went in to buy some things
and
he comes running out
and he says
did you hear it on the radio
I said what
I said I didn't hear it
it was music
he says I just heard it
on the radio in the shop
Marilyn Monroe is dead
and I turned white
I said I can't believe it
I'm supposed to leave Monday
to see her
I said
is this a joke
it's not nice
to make jokes like this
he says I swear
it's not a joke
so I got in the car
and I left
and I went back to New York City
to my apartment
it was about 100 miles away
I was living on Sutton Place
then
and I get there
and the doorman says to me
there's some press people
asking about you
and he said
I told him you're not here
so I said alright good
so I went up to my apartment
the phone's ringing
and everything
I put on the TV
and
the radio
and everything is
Marilyn Monroe is dead
and the phone rings
it's the Associated Press
a big
agency
wanting a statement
and I says look
I just got here
give me a chance
to get my breath
I promise I'll talk to you
but not right now
my mind is not
here you know
so I try to get some sleep
that night I couldn't sleep
in the morning
I went to my office
and
what was the sense of shock?
describe the shock
I turned white
I couldn't believe it
that she's dead
here
she's expecting me
Monday morning
Monday
sometime Monday
I was going to leave Monday
and I can't
can't be
I mean how could she be dead?
they didn't know
they just found her dead
that's all
cause the details
didn't come out then
about the housekeeper
and you know all that
how
what did you lose?
what did I lose?
I lost a friend
a dear friend
when I lost her
and to this day
I still think about her
I loved her
I mean she was
a very sweet person
and she was very kind
and she said
we do this book together
and if anything
should ever happen to me
I'm going to count on you
you know
to see that everything
is done the way we agreed
and what did the world lose?
the world lost
a very sweet person
that made them happy
that brought joy
for a few hours
when they went into
a dark theater
to watch her films
and they lost
a very kind person
and a person
that loved everybody
and had no hatred
for anyone
she didn't hate her husbands
she loved them
but the frustration
was that she
couldn't get them
to understand her
