Практикуващи Фалун Дафа в интервю по БНР за изложбата „Тела” в София

Let's talk about something that is easily overlooked but is actually a crucial test of our values and the way we view the world and our existence today The exhibition "The Human Body Revealed and Real " One exhibition that gathered a notable number of comments but did not particularly stir public opinion She was located in the center of Sofia and will remain here for several months What is it It shows the human body realistically that is it presents the bodies of real people in an exhibition Preserved by a certain technology so that the meat is protected from rotting We will discuss how each person views such an event The organizers argue that the exhibition has been held in many countries around the world It is already internationally recognized that it can be educational for a wide audience Theologians from your country have expressed opposition to the way such an exhibition is being promoted The Metropolitan of Lovchini Gabriel took a well-reasoned stance urging people not to visit this godless place Inhumane and dangerous to the human soul exhibition We will try to compare the arguments in the next discussions in our program We start with a survey of colleague Dobromir Vidov with people Those who have heard or not about this presentation but who in one way or another manage to formulate their position on the topic Listen I don't know if I would want to see her I often say Just because I consider it as art You probably would like to I don't think it's that bad to make a personal choice It depends on who is watching and at what age Critics say there is a magazine about the human body where everything is detailed and it is intended for children My children have these books so maybe there in a larger size if it's actual size it might be interesting for the children Isn't it going to be a terrible time for your child First I would go myself to see what is offered and then I can bring the children If the first one is stopped by the human body should it This is not the first artist to display nude bodies And yes yes but he shows the inside and basically these are fake people a kind of preserved ones Oh that's already quite shocking No I would look because I'm a medical professional As a medical professional I assume you have some opinion on whether things should be presented this way Maybe not because there are many such people who have a weak nervous system and would not be able to withstand looking at such things But for everything there are people who would go see it This is a medical textbook almost certainly The same is not art We must accept ourselves for who we are We must fear what we are Different people interpret it differently Some will say it is moral others will say it is immoral It's not immoral for me Why Many things happen on the street She wonders because it's quite contradictory because it's simply about the human body turned into art Sure yes Everything can be turned into art Not just a person As it becomes clear many people are not aware that real corpses are involved They believe that the exhibition displays highly accurate models Actually the question missing from the conversation about the bodies displayed at this exhibition Who were these people when they were alive The organizers themselves say that these so-called exhibits come from China They are Chinese people who have been handed over by the government because they are not wanted On the other hand they claim it is about people who have already given their consent while they were alive The use of their remains for scientific purposes after their death There are suspicions as raised in journalistic investigations The case involves executed Chinese prisoners from the Falun Gong community That is why we sought the position of the spokesperson for this community's information center in Bulgaria Ekaterina Zhelezkova This is what she said First I want to say that it is fair from the Bulgarian church Come out with a call not to visit this godless inhumane and health-dangerous exhibition We quote their statement This exhibition is to put it mildly godless and inhumane Although it is recommended as an educational tool for children over 5 years old Everyone would be stressed by the embalmed bodies and organs which can be seen in it It is actually not recommended for children over 5 years old As the organizers themselves disseminated the information Children under the age of 5 can enter for free That is it's some kind of invitation They recommend it as an educational one That is the idea of the organizers is that a person can learn their own body better It is more than what can be seen in a picture The truth is actually completely different First in Venezuela this exhibition about the late president Hugo Chávez was not allowed to be shown The official information from the exhibition in Bulgarian media stated that it was even shown in Israel But nowhere does it say that she was previously hidden there With a decision by the Supreme Court of Israel because according to the Court the behavior they have witnessed It violates human dignity including the dignity of the poor I along with the leader of one of the Jewish movements Gosho Fyeling says that some people may have been killed for this exhibition And I practicing fandango in Bulgaria and as a speaker for the Bulgarian Fund for Information Center I want to say that all the data and statements made recently by the international media Sochi exactly that Which part of the body is most likely on display here On executed prisoners as well as on prisoners of conscience in China These are mostly people who are religious or spiritually oriented As is the case with fund holders practicing the practice To improve the spirit and body which is pursued by the regime there So all followers of this practice in China They are actually prisoners of conscience How possible is it to prove or verify this assumption at is the information about people who have been subjected to such harassment In what way does information circulate in your community How certain are we really of such claims In principle we are talking about a communist China It's quite hard to make any statement out there It must be checked within the country itself Since nothing will come out that threatens the regime's security As the Falun Dafa community which has over 100 million followers worldwide 1714 countries we draw information from the primary source at is most often from Chinese people who have been detained in Chinese camps Close psychiatric clinics who were tortured and persecuted to abandon their practice and unfortunately many of them have passed away But the ones who managed to come out alive and well And they have emigrated abroad are our main sources of information about what is happening There is also something else about the exhibition It is organized by the American company Premier Exhibition but when a few years ago if I'm not mistaken in 2008 It was shown in the US in New York the company itself published what is called as we call it The evasion of responsibility statement according to which human remains used in the exhibition They were received from the Chinese police bureau and may be from Chinese prisons This is the statement from the company itself organizer and representative of the exhibition There are serious concerns The corpses that are used are not voluntarily donated The prisoners of the gallows and the prisoners of conscience In Canada last year The exhibition was met with protests by citizens exactly because of that since the information in the Canadian press the exhibition itself was presented as Exhibition of embalmed corpses from China for which there are no documents that prove The bodies had been donated through legal channels This is one of the things which the organizers emphasize that so-called exhibits are bodies of people Those who have given their consent while alive to be used after their death For scientific purposes But it is obviously a contradiction What you are saying is actually the exact opposite They probably wouldn't have said anything else would they Well But there are two very important things which in my opinion people should know The one is that among one of the greatest pieces of evidence for that What is the exhibition actually about or let 's say part of it how were the bodies taken In recent months publications in various international media especially in the newspaper Epoch Times Who is specially assigned to the Asian region and China for a recent court case for the murder of an Englishman Neil Hattut husband of a high-ranking Chinese party member Bosi Lai who is currently out of favor According to the media Epoch Times The true motive for the murder of the Englishman is that the British man was involved In the organ trade a practitioner was killed because he was a Fau Gong Learned many secrets about organ trafficking operations organized and carried ou from the wife of this former he is still a member of the Chinese Communist Party but he is in disgrace As your wife from other state and military institutions in China Politicians and all this regarding trade with the former head of state Qian Zemin Who continues to this day Internationally known is since 2006 there have been many reports For two macroeconomic experts who have traveled the entire world David Kilgour who presented the report in person was one of them in Bulgaria Indeed based on these claims The other important point in relation to your question For the bodies that consent has been given in life especially impressive e body of this exhibition is How did she start whose wife and child is how did she give her consent while living Let her be mummified with her 8-month-old fetus These are questions that people should ask themselves when viewing this exhibition These are questions that many bloggers in Chinese microblogs ask At the moment since that topic has been quite relevant lately This exhibition is not just a blasphemy against the memory of the dead I quote statements on microblogs in China It's horrifying that it is unknown Where do these bodies come from Actually this is the main point of this exhibition But rather of the fact that it was done What reaction do you think should have been had Which institutions or beyond Who and how should respond to this Where is she located in the center of Sofia at such a moment I am generally quite she is puzzled by the fact that suddenly this happened The exhibition appeared and had no effect I still can't understand why there is no official response Reaction as in other countries I think it should More attention should be paid to society regarding such matters After all we do know Whether a country is democratic depends on the maturity of its people Society and when we talk about such things I think society should be It's official Bulgarian Fund in association will also be released Listen to the conversation with the speaker at the Falun Gong information center in Bulgaria Katerina Zheleva As far as this topic is of essential importance to this community and the publication that was read by Epoch Times is a community media of Falun Dafa We We tried to check other media regarding similar exhibitions that are taking place in Bulgaria It's interesting how much information and journalistic investigations there actually are in the global press not just The United States The British Guardian has been writing since 2002 World trade stall is associated with an art exhibition For the person's style Doctor Frankenstein peers a sinister expanding multinational business This is the Observer 17 March 2002 It is clear from the publications During the exhibition 70 doctors protested in Birmingham in 2010 and two parliamentarians who in an open letter are asking the governme The UK must tighten the law There are numerous publications not only in Western Europe From Birmingham to Prague 2010 As the source of these Exhibition dead human bodies are part of the American company Premier Exhibitio And it is related to the exhibition that is currently at the center of Sofia The New York Times August 8 2006 Watch the video for the details journalistic investigation It begins with a warning about images tha They can disturb the viewer The same millionth visitor in New York Florida Houston or already in Sofia where the exhibition of the body is allowed e same viewer who might not ask where these real dead come from Preserved human bodies a processing method that slows decompositio On dead tissue and replaces human fluids with polymer Visitors Maybe they won't even ask where the bodies come from But journalists and institutions The state is required to do so Millions of viewers are flocking to the OPASHKA to see the exhibition Body factories A new industry is flourishing in China I am David Barbosa who Dalian China for The New York Times Investigative Journalism China produces mummified bodies for exhibitions David Barbossa's rise to the New York Times shows the current trends There are hundreds of workers in the city of Dalian China They process corpses of their own Countrymen for the needs of the international market of laminated bodies Earlier from American press archives November 2005 Again in the New York Times Exhibition of corpses raises questions It is out of taste to be the title of the article The concept of displaying the dead I quote with full profit is problematic enough to cause disagreements and disputes But even more alarming is that the bodies are coming from China a country that has problems To the glory of upholding human rights There is suspicion that organs are being used executed prisoners and the question remains how legal e origin of these human fragments as read in this publication The company spent 25 million dollars to acquire the deceased human bodies According to the publication the president of Premier Exhibition the same company is Arnie Geller The New York Times was not the only one conducting a similar investigation ABC television was too Where are these bodies coming from What were they before they died Terrifying questions answered by Brian Ross investigative reporter on 20 on 20 on ABC and already his words A widely attended show of human bodies Dehydrated dried preserved placed in acid Or in plastic this report begins As a result of the three-month journalistic The director of the private company Premier Exhibition which is the partner of the Bulgarian organizers and submits a bid The news is also cited by other media for example by the television of Chinese exiles in America Just now ABC announced that the New York Attorney General has stated The company used the labor of people who may have been tortured or executed in China The organizing company has no documentation With which to confirm that the talents are donated for such a purpose For ABC the director of Premier Exhibition Arnold Geller says the data comes from the Dalian Medical University in China The president of the medical faculty denies it Several weeks after the broadcast The director of the organizing company submits a claim and the price of tickets purchased by visitors At the exhibition in New York they will be restored The famous American public radio NPR and the well-known program All Things Considered It also deals with exhibitions featuring embalmed human corpses as far back as the distant past In 2006 the difference between the two exhibitions that of Günter von Hagens and that of Premier Exhibition The organizers of the exhibition in Sofia are connected with the company It is in this that in the second case which is also the Bulgarian case the bodies from China do not come by will Donors the company's spokesperson Roy Glover said These are unclaimed bodies says Roy Glover for NPR The reporter's conclusion The longest-standing reason is that because of this many exhibition halls refuse to display the mentioned work Premier Exhibition In 2008 as a resul for more than three months the ABC television investigation The U S Congress and the Attorney General of New York launch an investigation Following a court settlement the company posts on its website The clarification that she quoting relies solely on the Chinese version Our partners on the body and that it cannot guarantee through independe source that the bodies do not belong to executed prisoners By the way Tanya this clarification is still available in the Web archive The company Exhibitions in the United States are accompanied by Chinese protests Human rights activists and more On the organizers' website from the Bulgarian side InterContact The logo of the relevant American private company about which information as we hear from journalistic sources Investigations and legal procedures are sufficiently abundant in the US And yet Bulgarian newspapers write that only in Venezuela under Hugo Chavez They were banned from the exhibition the world press learns despite the large Attendance at the Body Exhibition has not appeared in the most respected museums as the The Smithsonian for example or the American Museum of Natural History in New York If in the United States journalistic publications lead to legal actions and even before the summit and in this private company it is with us Nothing like this happens The newspapers put large colorful photos on their front pages Now Doctor Marian Stoyadinov is on the phone Dean's assistant and instructor in dogmatic blessing at the Orthodox Blessing Faculty At the University of Veliko Tarnovo Hello Hello In light of what Irina said Mr Stoynov What do you think about the reaction in Bulgaria What can I say It's sad that the judge is alone Sad is the reaction if I may call it that because I only participated in one discussion last week and they can be selected on tiptoe and they can be selected from one river Open forums where this can be discussed I 'm not talking about institutions because It is clear that no one is there to take responsibility At least not from the agents and customs officers They could roughly explain how the decisions were made They explained we had exactly such They were asked and it became clear that they had entered In Bulgaria as with any other exhibition the exhibits are entered Exhibition items Not like human hair Yes Like some kind of wig It should be there Some classifier at least from agents and customs officers and there We end up in situations where he should have left but from there the conversation should have started I see many more reasons for work in this event Many sad reasons that affect us They will put us in a situation where we have to consider even such things as normal and this serves As a measure of normality which we are quotes which we are capable of We consume For the sake of interest this time the Bulgarian Orthodox Church reacted quickly Through the letter of Metropolitan Gabriel of Lovchenski but when you speak of levels of Normality would that be the direction in which we should model normality faith Religious attitudes toward the treatment of dead bodies or on the contrary this is Just one part of everything That's a provocation of normalcy A provocation of normalcy because Actually I'm expecting a lot from the things we talked about a week ago in an organized form From the website of Pravoslavni TG We cannot consider the human body even that of a The dead man as isolated from his personality We actually know that even in the concentration camps people had numbers even in the medical field stitutes where the body is handed over to the coroner it also They are present in some person's identity Number and they have We have nothing like that We have neither number nor form of a person So the man is completely deprived of his humanity He is turned into some kind of packaged culture or some form of packaged art And that is the least thing that does not pose a dilemma It does not raise the question of normality The person who ends the tragedy exposes it Because with the money tha We leave the coat we finance the corporation 's work which would buy the next person It's not just packaged meat it's a person with a biography a person with a story ame a person with an identical identity hidden missing from the exhibition Element The element of education the argument by which the organizers are leaving which by the way seems Very convincing to most people they speak with pure curiosity For this exhibition What do you think It's stimulating Because there are far too many ways far too many methods to demonstrate an educational whole Whatever the case it is part of the physiology of the human body Agree three-dimensionally and virtually and plastically it is not impossible But to take a person a person Since we're talking about this topic let 's take a person turn them into a plate Let it be exposed as possible from its biography from its name from its identity Let it become something which will be treated as if it were art in a cage as if I don't know how to call it but some kind of artistic installation This is not normal It could not be educational that is it could be educational But there was no other way to illustrate the human body There is The technologies are so advanced that we can't say there aren't any This was the position of Mariyan Stoyadinov Deputy Dean of the Theological Faculty at the University of Veliko Tarnovo I will just add The more important this topic becomes because the exhibition takes place at the dinner During the Easter holidays in the center of Sofia and beyond any emotio I will add one argument to Dr Stoyan Stavro A valid argument And that is according to Bulgarian legislation with a high degree of persuasiveness One could say that this exhibition is illegal