Animation Workshop Feedback - Pranav Juvekar #8 (2022)

Alrighty, there's sound on this, let's watch this in full. Now, the fact that we have sounds, I think it could be also fun to have a little bit of a that bottle landing, something in there just because it's sometimes it's off to have some sound but then some foley or something is missing. Other than that, I think there's some good stuff in there. Definitely love all of this here. Watch out, it feels sometimes a bit IK, disjointed with that much movement up there but then the wrist doesn't go up with it and then it suddenly goes up separately and then we have a lot of movement again but then nothing's happening. So, watch out IK arm stuff or even this like popping over one frame and then kind of almost locking to it. Little things like that. It'd be kind of awesome too if one frame before this pops open. Well, it's not like... I mean, I guess he would bring down the handle to then open it but this was more like I'm breaking through it. I'll take it back, no handle animation since he's breaking in there. My thing would be... Actually, watch out, you have an intersection of that handle. Not that you would see this in real time. There are two ways to go about it. I don't think this is wrong that he is talking to the baby but then talks the other direction because he's so desperate. At the same time, there could also be an argument made that he will go like this and then the please please please really is leaning towards the baby holding on to this maybe. You know, like sliding down his hands like please holding on to this and almost shaking the thing and say please go to sleep. So, it's really pleading towards the baby but at the same time again I see that like the desperation would go like just you know anybody like he's just talking almost to himself. I wonder if there could be a middle line where you do this please please please and he does that as he falls you know towards the baby and then turns around. That's probably my biggest comment watching this. Now, for this again not that there's anything wrong with it. I just want to explore options at this point. I know we're pretty far and these are destructive notes but just as you're mentioning here any and all feedback will do. So, that's why I'm wondering if he goes go to sleep like could this be like he he tried already so many things and he's tired where you start at that height whoa hold on go to sleep and instead of going up which I know kind of matches the energy and the sound of the voice it's more like imagine he starts here and goes go to sleep like he's tired like go to sleep like he's done with this whole day and then he goes out and even this it's such a it's such a violent closing he's so done with this that's add to me the other thing too is like it's such a forceful slam that you could potentially already start having a bit more of a really tired angry type of slam in there from a technical point of view watch out your spacing like as the head goes up goes up and it kind of locks there and then suddenly goes to the right some there's some spacing throughout that I would that I would tweak but to me generally I want to make sure that I throw out a bunch of ideas that you can obviously 100 ignore or you know incorporate five percent but to me it feels like he is he's so done with this that he would start at the top slide down like I said here he would start here and go go to sleep and then go and even then I mean you can go how does he enter all right so he enters really tall so what if he starts here and goes go to sleep right starts here goes down and even the closing of this is him so he was here he's even lower like he turns around and he's he's just hunched over you know and it's him his hunching over and leaving is what makes this close you know imagine you're like this but then you turn around and you hunch over it will pull that arm over and that's what it will close it it's like he's almost collapsing so I don't to me like in my head I'm thinking all right he's tired tired tired he has no more energy BAM he enters like that's how I'm visualizing this so he's tall goes lower exits even lower so that memory wise we have the head and everything around here but then he enters this is big contrast of no no I'm tall again now the other thing too is totally um destroying the shot but imagine instead of coming out here and holding on to this because this to me is almost like a someone stole the baby kind of like where is it where is where's the person blah blah versus someone who is just so tired of this where could it be and I know this is super destructive it's like the weirdest critique I've given probably but I'm thinking he starts here gets lower lower and lower and then re-enters tall fists here one leg out you know shoulders up and that's like he's so angry tired but stiff he just opens it all like this and as he's like that that foot comes down where he ends up being around here and then it's like a gradual imagine like foot falling on his knees punching over hands here please please be like it's this gradual breakdown towards the baby so basically kind of like that but again towards the baby other than that and the reason why I'm also mentioning this is you know just explain my where my thought process is when you listen to the voice please please please go to sleep there's definitely energy to it but in my mind it's like there's so much energy expenditure on on breaking into this and all of this like he would be out of breath please please but it doesn't quite sound like it I know I'm very picky about just the actions on screen matching the energy level of the audio like is that person inhaling or not does it feel like they're out of breath does it feel like they just did this big action that's why I'm wondering would it fit better instead of this ginormous entrance to just open it boom cartoony like with like you know two frames just the leg and then the leg snapping back down and then he would fall on his knees and break down and do all of this here you know you can also imagine he was standing here leg out and then drops and as he drops turns around into this pose you know it doesn't have to be a crazy redo but anyway I know these are these also if you listen to that sound it's almost like an opening and then a cracking like it's almost like he would hold on to this and then collapse on his knees and pull out the handle but I would also add some more sound effects here just because it doesn't match either like the intensity and the hitting of the wall is a sound missing that's probably again why I'm reacting to something where like I'm not sure this fits but it could just be you just add sound effects to make this a bit sharper and then you're totally fine I think that's yeah I feel like I wanted to throw out just a couple more ideas because other than that to me it's more technical like how this goes down this feels even though there's a there's a thumb post change I would tweak into a bigger you know it might be even like a bigger roundish near of the of the wrist foundation is that a word but changing this so that it doesn't just go IK arm down this has a better feel there's a slight rotation in the wrist but then you got some wobbly spacing in the knees that to me feel as feels more like chatter then trying to put weight on this and the knees buckle under the weight and that's why it drops there so I don't know if that's that was the intention but I see more wobble spacing there please go to sleep please please go to sleep I do like when you have this drop here please go to sleep I can see that matching the sound please go to sleep please go to sleep yeah that's that's definitely fine the other thing too is that I would probably it's you're going down in one axis and then you come fairly straight up the same way and I think you can afford a little bit of this instead of so straight you can have a little bit of a twist in the head and then when he comes back up with either twist this way or even further away you know like magic he doesn't want to deal with the baby anymore and on the way up he turns even more away from this and be a bit more profile three-quarter versus three-quarter just to give this more complexity in all axes so it's not just down and up go to sleep please yeah that's mainly that I think the main impression that I had when I watched this for the first time was that go to sleep qqq okay and then the energy and the animation all that it's just at a higher level than what's going on audio wise that's probably the very first impression that I had and that's why I went off tangent here with different ideas and stuff but I don't let me know what you think again you said any and all feedback will do so you know I'm making chat this is obviously not part of the submission chat and you can let me know like no no you want more technical notes and no changes do you what do you want to incorporate from these ideas if anything one percent and then we can go from there already thanks all right there's an email you can sign up you can start whenever you want you can submit whatever you want you get 16 submissions either way a like and subscribe would be awesome all right thank you