After trying the stock WG being disconnected, i decided to buy this billet WG on ebay and see what it will do. One thing i think i noticed it spools up the turbo faster because it doesnt start releasing pressure at low psi numbers like the stock one is, but i also like the fact that it doesnt boost the turbo up above 25 psi, i was worried that it would let it boost to 30-35 psi because that would be bad on the stock turbo lol . It did need a little modification to the rod connector to the wastegate, i dont know why they made it so thick to where you cant even put the retainer pin on to hold the rod in place, but only a slight modification fixed that problem. Get yourself a couple retainer clips at local auto store if they sell them, you will need 1 or 2 haha.
Guys what's going on welcome back to the channel and today we're gonna install this wastegate that I got on ebay from us turbo systems
This is a 33
pound
Uh billet wastegate and we're gonna go ahead and remove our stock one
Which is right there
We're gonna remove that guy. I already unbolted it
And I already took the pin out. I'll show you that in a minute
uh, but
We're basically gonna swap that and we're gonna test this one
versus the other one
Now on the wastegate, let me see if I can show you
I don't know if you guys gonna see this, but there's two
uh
Nuts behind here
Behind the wastegate one here and one
over here somewhere
I can't really see but
Hopefully you guys can see
There's one right there
And one
On the other side and then on the rod side right here
There was a retainer pin and I used this little
hook thing to kind of
Hook it and try to try to get it off and then
I honestly, I don't know where it flew away. It's so tiny. It just bounced somewhere probably in the engine valley
uh
So i'll have to figure out and see what I can make to uh, retain
the new rod in place
So basically what we do is
After the retainer pin over here is off. You basically just kind of wiggle this thing off
It should come off. There you go like that
And then after you got the two bolts
Off right here on the wastegate
It basically just slides out
And you're good to go
Now here's a stock one versus the 33 pound billet one
Seems to be well made
The design i'm sure it's pretty simple. You get pressure inside
There's a spring and then the spring opens up and then it pushes this rod out which opens the wastegate
And the reason I have two is because I bought one and the shipping one and accidentally they shipped shipping one
used and there was a
Bolt right here that's missing
So they shipped me another one
And if you guys want this
Let me know in the comments just put 7.3
wastegate
If you have a 7.3, obviously
And i'll pick a winner
Probably on my next video
And i'll ship this out to you guys. Um, i'll i'll try to see if I can find
This bolt right here. Basically i'm going to try to see if I can get this out from this side
And then see if I can get a replacement
um
in here
Honestly, I don't think it uh affects anything
uh
but the reason they sent me out is because I showed them this and that it was
Seemed like it was installed maybe and then there's somebody returned it
um, and the reason
i'm going to install the new one on my truck and not the used one and give away this one is because honestly, I
I want to be
Kind of honest with the company if they send me a new one. I'll install the new one and i'll give away
Uh, this one supposedly broken one used one. So that way the company is not going to say. Hey, we send you a new one
Why don't you?
Install the new one. Why did you give it away blah blah blah, so I don't want to have any issues with that. So
Uh, that's why i'm going to install the one they send me the replacement and then i'm going to give away this one
um, so
It still works. I tested it. It seems to be working just fine. Here's another thing with this, uh wastegate. They send you
Two little attachment one with the smaller hole one with a bigger hole. However
On the stock one as you can see the hole is little
So it's bigger than this one
The hole is the same as this one because this sends you two of these
But when you put this one on it's too thick
So it's almost twice as thick. So when you put this one on
The retainer clip does not fit on top
Because this is too thick and this goes on there just perfectly and then the retainer clip slides, right?
On top of there and it holds it in place, but because this is too thick the retainer clip would not retain this in place
So what I end up doing on my other one
Is I drilled the hole even bigger because uh that little
lever has a kind of like a
two-step
Let me show you that real quick. So if you guys can see it has a thin side and a thicker side
So the thin side will fit on top
But the retainer clip would not fit now
So what I end up doing is drilling a bigger hole to fit on this bigger section right here
So now it sits down a little bit lower and then i'm going to use a washer on top and then a retainer clip
On top of that so that's going to hold
Everything in place and since my retainer clip kind of flew away somewhere. No idea where I kind of tried making my own
right there
For now it'll work, but I suggest you get a few retainer clips from I don't know Napa or AutoZone, whatever
um
but for now this will work and what i'm gonna do is i'm gonna
use this and then put a
washer on top
And then retainer clip on top of that because with that bigger hole the retainer clip is just gonna slide right through
All right. So now let's go ahead and test these guys out and see at what psi they start. Um
Moving I got my little pressure gauge right here
Made a little connector for the waste gate
And uh, let's plug this guy in here
And kind of watch I drew a line right there
You guys can see that blue line on here
So let's keep an eye on that and see at what psi it starts moving
So it's moving around
6 psi 5 psi
3 psi even
Look at that 3 psi and it's already pretty much
Halfway open this is full right here
So let's get uh, so 3 psi 4 psi it starts moving it
Halfway about
It's about
9 10 psi it opens about halfway
Let's see. Let's get to full
And about 21 psi 22 psi it opens it opens the thing completely
So let's say 3 psi
around 3 psi
I mean maybe even less maybe 2 psi
But yeah, so we got a let's say 3 psi it opens it starts opening it barely
we get about
10 psi at half
So we got 3
10 and 22. So we got three opening start it starts opening about 3 psi
10 psi we're about a half and a 22 that's already fully open
now let's compare that to the
This 33 pound
waste gate
All right. Now, let's go ahead and uh
Check this one and see what we're gonna get
So on here I put 3 psi I kind of moved it about 10 because it was just kind of wobbling around
So let's just say 3 psi opens about 10. So let's see
What this one opens at?
So looks like at 18 psi
it starts
Opening it about 10. Let's do it again real quick
Yeah about 18
About 18 psi. So let's do 50. Let's see how many psi we'll get it to 50
Okay, so 29 psi opens it at 50
That's quite a bit
And then to get it fully open
Fully open is at 40 psi
So that's quite
That's a bit high
Why am I putting percent over here? That's not percent. That's psi just so you know
I'm sure there's going to be some resistance and
some loss
When it's on the truck and on the turbo
But let's see how much I can pull out by hand
So I can do about 75 percent
Yeah, okay
and this one
About 25 I can barely put about 25. So there's a lot of uh
There's going to be a lot of uh, it's going to need a lot of pressure to open this guy. So
I I guess
I guess let's install it and see what we get. Hopefully my custom baby retainer clip works
and uh, we'll uh
Do some testing and see what we can get our truck to
All right. Well the install is going to be pretty simple straightforward
Same way you take it out
Same way it goes in
you put the wastegate into the
The holes first and then you connect the rod right here
See if I can need to
Here we go
You don't want to tighten this nut right here just yet. You want to make sure
This goes on there
Okay, so
Okay, we're good on that
Now we're going to put our washer right here
Washer on there a little washer spacer
and then we're going to try installing our
retainer pin
and this one's i'm a little
I'm a little worried about this one
um
Just so I don't lose it. Maybe this tip is going to be
Good for you guys
Maybe shove some paper towels and some towels in there
Maybe this way if it falls at least it's going to be hopefully on the towel right here
I'm not putting this guy on
It's going to be a little tricky
I'm sure it's not going to just slide on there
That easy i'm going to need to
Push it with something
I think I think it's on there. Okay. Yeah, I think it's on there. All right, and the nuts
on the back
You just kind of put them on with two hands
while
Left hand is holding it in place. The right hand
Is tightening in place
That makes it a lot easier. I'm basically just laying on top of my engine
and
They are on
Okay, so that's good. That's good
And then I used
Some towels on the bottom in case one of them does fall
It's going to catch it and then I got my little
Tool right here 10 millimeter with the swivel and extension
and then we're gonna
Go ahead and tighten it
It's kind of a pain in the butt to get it there get in there with the ratchet but
This one seems to be working a little bit better in this area
And we got the back one. Let's see if we can
Squeeze it in there
Okay, that's good. And then the top one
That's good
And we'll get the red line vacuum line connected
That's good. That's done
All right, and there she is installed
Now if you guys remember
I did that test when I disconnected the vacuum line from my stock wastegate and we got
like 24
Just barely touching 25 psi
So let's see what this guy does
And I did not get uh over boost
code
When I did the stock wastegate disconnected
So we'll see what happens with this one
All right, let's see what we're gonna get in third gear right now
Well, we only got 22 psi
That's kind of weird
I mean i'm not complaining. I don't want to I don't want it to be too high
Yeah, it looks like 23
23 is probably max
I don't know why not why not higher
But it is what it is
So yeah guys looks like 23 psi is probably the most we're gonna get out of this. I don't know why it doesn't go
uh any higher
because when we did the testing and we saw that
uh, he needed about 10 psi to start moving barely and about
What was it like 20 psi about to open halfway
And to fully open it was about 40 psi. So we saw that it needs a lot of pressure to open the wastegate
and
In this case, it didn't go more than 20
About 23 psi. So i'm guessing
It opens it enough to release the the turbo pressure and it doesn't go any higher
Which is kind of good because you don't want to push the turbo
uh too far
You don't want to run it more than 20. You don't want to run it at 25 psi all the time
and
Because the turbo probably don't doesn't spool up as fast as aftermarket turbos and the wheel is stock
So it doesn't spool up as fast
so
It's not able to go higher because it probably dumps all that
Uh the pressure before it built before it can actually build up more. So in a way, that's good
Actually, i'm kind of happy with that that it's set at 22 23. That's probably the maximum
And here i am cruising about 70 miles per hour
And we are at about
5 psi right now
Let's see what happens if I step on the on the gas pedal
So, yeah, that's pretty good so it gets to about 20 psi fairly easily
And it went from 70 to 80
So yeah, i'm pretty happy with it. Uh
No engine light code yet
Hopefully i'm not going to get one later
So I hope you guys enjoyed this install this little testing so you guys can see the stock versus aftermarket wastegates and so on
and so forth
And it's not that hard of an install. It's just it's just kind of awkward to get in there. So but
it takes maybe
30 minutes tops
maybe even less
Because yesterday I did it in about 15 minutes
But I was just kind of flopping things around and things were flying like the retainer pin
I lost the nut there as well. So
If you take your time just do it, right?
30 minutes tops. It's pretty easy to do. It's not that hard
and yeah, i'm not even going to bother doing any kind of uh,
Performance testing 10 to 60 30 to 70 all that stuff, especially right now
There's too many cars out and I don't want to do it after work. Honestly, I don't think it's going to make
That much of a difference because I already did the testing with the
wastegate disconnected so we saw
What it did with uh with more boost
I mean, maybe might I don't know. I don't know maybe if I feel like it i'll do it later
But right now I don't want to
Uh, i'm sure you guys are bored with all those tests. It's all kind of the same and nothing too exciting
but
Maybe if I feel like it i'll do it later and uh show you guys the results
If i'll show you guys the results if there's any kind of improvement, but I don't think there's going to be any anything better
Until I actually start doing other mods like the tuner
turbo wheel
Injectors so on and so forth, which I don't want to do injectors. Maybe a turbo wheel after I do a tuner
But for now, that'd be it. So guys, I hope you enjoyed this video. Thanks for watching and we'll see you on the next one
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