NTD Evening News Full Broadcast (March 24)

Welcome to NTD Evening News. Our top story tonight, Iran making a major concession and delivering the U.S. a valuable prize. What the president reveals today about ongoing talks between the U.S. and Iran and what changes led to the new progress. Iris Tao with the latest. America's top commander in the Middle East saying the U.S. is largely ahead of schedule in the war against Iran. Meanwhile, Israeli forces say they're planning to take over part of southern Lebanon. Jason Perry with the details. Delta Airlines announces that Congress will need to use public lines to get through airport security while TSA staffing shortages continue. Jason Blair reports. An investigation into the LaGuardia airport collision is underway. What the National Transportation Safety Board is focusing on right now. Sean Marshall has the updates. And Senate Republicans say the Biden administration illegally targeted FBI Director Kash Patel while he was still a private citizen. Arian Pasdar has why Republicans are comparing it to the Watergate scandal. This is NTD Evening News, live from our global headquarters in New York City, here's Tiffany Meyer. Good evening and thank you for joining us tonight. Kevin Hogan in for Tiffany Meyer. President Trump says Iran has agreed to never have a nuclear weapon. It comes as the U.S. is holding off strikes against Iran's power plants while talks take place this week. NTD's White House correspondent Iris Tao has more. President Trump says Iran is going to make a deal, adding that he believes that the U.S. is now talking to the right people as they delivered a valuable gift today related to oil and gas and the Strait of Hormuz. It was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. What it showed me is that we're dealing with the right people. Previously, the president said there would be no deal except for a complete surrender by Iran. When asked what changed, the president says. They're talking to us and they're talking sense. They've agreed they will never have a nuclear weapon. They've agreed to that. As to what made Iran come to the table, President Trump said Iran's military capabilities now Militarily, they are dead. And stressing that the U.S. has won this war. The only one that likes to keep it going is the fake news. I mean, the New York Times, you read the New York Times, it's like we're not winning a war where they have no Navy and they have no Air Force and they have no nothing. And we literally have planes flying over Tehran. Iran is denying that talks are happening, but President Trump says that's due to confusion within the now destabilized, if not changed regime. We killed all their leadership and then they met to choose new leaders and we killed all of them. And now we have a new group and we can easily do that. But let's see how they turn out. So help me God. Congratulations, Secretary. In other news, the president today hailing Mark Wayne Mullen as the former Oklahoma senator gets sworn in as the new secretary for the Department of Homeland Security. Everything he's done has been good. I say everything he touched, he's turned to gold. And Secretary Mullen vowing to work hard for all. I don't care what color your state is. I don't care if you're red or you're blue. At the end of the day, my job is to be secretary of Homeland and to protect everybody the same. No one's going to outwork me and I'm not going to let any of them outwork me. The president doesn't trust me with this and failure is not an option. And President Trump says Mullen has been a vital partner in helping to secure the border and stop migrant crime. He asked that with Mullen now at DHS, the department will continue to deport illegal alien criminals. Reporting by Iris Howe, NPD News. As Operation Epic Fury continues, Admiral Brad Cooper says the U.S. is largely ahead of schedule in achieving its military objectives in the war. Meanwhile, Israeli forces who are battling the Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorist group say they're planning to take control of part of southern Lebanon. NTD's Jason Perry has the details. The United States Central Command, or CENTCOM, appears unrelenting in the war against Iran. On Tuesday, CENTCOM releasing more footage of strikes on the Iranian regime, saying they've struck over 9,000 targets in the war so far. CENTCOM Commander Admiral Brad Cooper on Tuesday advising the people of Iran to heed the U.S.'s advice. Beware. The government doesn't care about you. They're launching missiles and drones from populated areas. You need to stay inside for right now. Third, there will be a clear signal at some point, as the president has indicated, for you to be able to come out. Admiral Cooper adding that the Iranian regime is now acting out of desperation. At the beginning of the conflict, you saw large volumes in the dozens of drones and missiles. You no longer see that. It's all one or two at a time. So that has dramatically shifted. And the desperation you've seen is, they've shifted from military targets in the last couple of weeks. They've attacked civilian targets very deliberately, more than 300 times, 300 times. Admiral Cooper saying that the U.S. appears to be largely ahead of schedule in achieving its military objectives in the war, which include eliminating Iran's ballistic missiles and drones and sinking the Navy, and one country stepping forward to help mediate an end to the war, as Pakistan's prime minister on Tuesday saying he's willing to host talks between the U.S. and Iran on ending the war. Meanwhile, Israel, which has been fighting alongside the U.S., is facing attacks at home. The Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorist group in Lebanon launching a projectile on Tuesday that killed an Israeli woman. Israel's defense minister, Israel Katz, saying that the thousands of Lebanese residents who left their homes due to the war will not return until the safety of residents in northern Israel is guaranteed. He added that the Israel Defense Forces will take control of part of southern Lebanon up to the Litani River. The approximate area that Israel is planning to control is seen highlighted in red on this map of Lebanon. And then a historic shift in diplomacy, the Lebanese government expelling the Iranian ambassador from Lebanon on the same day. Lebanon has accused Iran of dragging the country into another war with Israel. Israeli President Isaac Herzog called it a major watershed step that could bring regional peace if Iran's, quote, empire of evil and its proxies, especially Hezbollah, are wiped out. Jason Perry, NTD News. The U.S. Supreme Court is taking up a key immigration case today. The justices are weighing a policy that limited access to asylum at the southern border. Federal law requires migrants be processed at a port of entry if they claim to be fleeing persecution. But the policy, known as metering, allows agents to turn migrants away before they reach U.S. soil. Biden ended the Obama-era policy, and the Trump administration has not said whether it plans to bring it back. But the Justice Department is still defending it in court. The Supreme Court will decide whether migrants stopped on the Mexico side have a legal right to seek asylum. Lower courts have previously ruled that the policy violates federal law, but the government argues it's a necessary tool to manage surges at the border. Delta tells Congress they now have to go through airport security checkpoints with everyone else. The airline says it's suspending its special services for members of Congress due to the Correspondent Jason Blair reports. Delta Airlines announced that members of Congress will now need to use public lines to get through airport security. The Atlanta-headquartered company says in a statement, due to the impact on resources from the longstanding government shutdown, Delta will temporarily suspend specialty services to members of Congress flying Delta. A Senate bill passing this kind of TSA fast-pass treatment for members of Congress passed unanimously last Thursday. It will still need to pass the House of Representatives before it can be signed into law by the president. Atlanta Airport is one of the 14 airports that ICE is helping to alleviate long security lines. Some passengers have reported signs of improvement a day after ICE arrived. Houston, another airport ICE is helping at, also reportedly has improved, but long waits are still happening at times. Most Republicans think ICE helping TSA is a good idea, while most Democrats do not. But at the end of the day, somebody's got to step up and ensure that our air travel continues or you're going to see even further damage to our economy. Let's be clear. ICE agents performing the work of TSA officers are not going to make our airports any safer. It's going to make them less safe because ICE agents aren't trained in airport security. The Department of Homeland Security is in its sixth week of a partial shutdown affecting pay for TSA workers. Many airports have been experiencing staffing shortages leading to long wait times at security checkpoints. The shutdown will continue until Congress reaches a funding agreement. Reporting at Reagan National Airport, Jason Blair, Entity News. New York's LaGuardia Airport is facing significant delays and cancellations for the second straight day following the deadly collision Sunday night between an Air Canada Express jet and a fire truck on the runway. Entity's Sean Marshall has the latest. It's been called the deadliest aviation accident at LaGuardia in more than 30 years, according to New York City Mayor Zoran Mondani. You know, the secretary talks about upgrading our air traffic control system. We have an old air traffic control system. This is why he talks about that. We need to upgrade. But we also need to improve safety across the air. It's not just air traffic control, it's safety all around. Updates from the National Transportation Safety Board are coming in as they investigate all sides of the incident. It is not clear who was doing the, who was conducting the duties of the ground controller. We have conflicting information. We have some information saying it was the controller in charge. We have some information saying it was the local controller. The ground controller duties are that they manage all aircraft and vehicle movements on the taxiways and that generally excludes active runways. Captain Antoine Forrest and First Officer Mackenzie Gunther have been named as the pilots that lost their lives in the incident. You have to have information on the ground movements, you know, whether that's aircraft or vehicles moving on the airport, in taxiways, on runways, they should have all the information. This is 2026. The NTSB mentioned that the fire truck involved in the crash was not equipped with a transponder. With respect to transponders, the question is, is it common for ground vehicles to have transponders? I don't have the latest figures on that. I would suggest speaking with the Federal Aviation Administration on that or you can contact Eric and we'll get back to you on numbers. Should they? That's something we'll determine as part of our investigation. I will tell you that not having a recommendation, yeah, they should. Even though we don't have a recommendation, air traffic controllers should know what's in, you know, before them, whether it's on airport surface or in the airspace. They should have that information to ensure safety. Now, that's not an NTSB recommendation, so I want to be clear, but it could be. We don't know. Black box information is not yet available. Well, runway four, where the accident happened, will remain closed until at least Friday morning, according to a public notice from the FAA. Sean Marshall, NTD News. Senate Republicans unveiling what they call a major abuse of power by the Biden administration, comparable to the Watergate scandal. The Senate Judiciary Subcommittee now saying the administration secretly targeted FBI Director Kash Patel while he was a private citizen. NTD's Arian Pastar has the story. Biden's Department of Justice subpoenaed the toll records of now FBI Director Kash Patel and now White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles. They were not aiming low. Texas Senator Ted Cruz unveiling what he calls systematic abuse of power against Republicans and the Trump campaign. The Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday holding a hearing titled Arctic Frost, a modern Watergate. Arctic Frost was the codename for an FBI probe into allegations that President Trump and his associates sought to overturn the 2020 election. Investigations led by Senate Republicans have revealed that the Justice Department and the FBI under President Biden sought communication records and other data of over 400 Republican leaders and organizations. The latest records, now released on Tuesday, include two subpoenas for FBI Director Kash Patel's phone data. He was a private citizen and part of the Trump campaign at the time. Imagine for just one moment that President Trump's Department of Justice had secretly obtained the phone records of Senator Schumer, Senator Whitehouse, Senator Durbin, Senator Hirono and Senator Padilla. My Democrat colleagues would be losing their minds right now in this hearing if the Trump Department of Justice had done that. Senator Cruz went on to criticize that some judges signed off on DOJ requests to secretly collect locations, communications and call histories of hundreds of Republicans. Republicans say most of the data collection was initiated by former special counsel Jack Smith. Cruz says that in targeting the 400 Republican leaders and organizations, Smith issued almost 200 subpoenas, many without any legal justification. Many of whom had no connection to those who entered the Capitol on January 6th, correct? Absolutely. And in fact, some of those organizations didn't even exist on January 6th. Is that correct? It is. So we're not talking about a narrow investigation. We're talking about a sweeping operation targeting virtually the entirety of the other side politically. It was a phishing expedition. Margaret Cleveland was one of the witnesses at Tuesday's hearing. She's a senior legal correspondent with The Federalist. When Jack Smith subpoenaed AT&T to get my toll records, AT&T refused to comply with the subpoena because they concluded that it violated the speech and debate clause. Is that correct? Absolutely correct. And they backed down. Jack Smith did not try to enforce that subpoena, did he? He did not. He did not go to court and litigate the matter, did he? He did not. Does that suggest, as it does to me, that he knew damn well what he was doing was illegal and would not be upheld in court? It does suggest that. Senate Democrats are calling for Jack Smith to testify himself so he can present his side of the story. Ariane Pastar, NTD News. Coming up, a new poll shows Mayor Karen Bass leading the race for L.A. Mayor, but facing growing challenges. Several hopefuls recently taking the debate stage, outlining how they plan to change the city. Christina Corona reports. After a year of captivity in Afghanistan, an American researcher is returning home. The Taliban detained Dennis Coyle, but the Trump administration and international partners helped secure his release. David Lam has more. And the FCC now officially banning foreign-made routers from the U.S. market, citing national and cybersecurity risks, especially from Chinese-linked brands. Melina Wisecup with the details, next. I trod on my glasses yesterday, and I had to pay up front for a new pair that I can't even pick up for another 10 days. So I looked for another way, and I found Select Specs. I ordered online. My new glasses just arrived this morning, and I can pay over the next few weeks. This is the way to buy glasses. See now, pay later with Select Specs. Next day delivery and deferred payment options, only at selectspecs.com. 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NTV's Christina Corona has more as some mayoral candidates take the debate stage. Just over a month after the field for the L.A. mayor's race was set, a new poll shows Mayor Karen Bass could be facing a tougher re-election path. According to a new UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies and LA Times poll, Karen Bass is still in the lead at 25%, but not by much. Council member Nithya Raman comes in at 17%, and reality TV star Spencer Pratt is at 14%. The rest of the candidates are in single digits, and a quarter of voters are still undecided in what is a crowded field of 14 candidates. But Bass's approval numbers may be the bigger concern. More than half of voters view her unfavorably, with much of that tied to criticism over her handling of the Palisades fire. And on Monday night, several mayoral candidates took the debate stage, including L.A. City Council member Nithya Raman, housing activist Ray Huang, and tech entrepreneur Adam Miller focusing on housing, homelessness, and transportation. Mayor Bass and Spencer Pratt were notably absent. Raman focused heavily on the city's housing crisis. We say we're in a housing crisis here in Los Angeles, and then the city makes it impossible to build in L.A. My plan would change that. I would reduce bureaucracy and red tape at City Hall by creating a shot clock by which all housing projects would have to be approved. I would reduce permitting snafus by making sure that we have a single inspector and making sure permitting departments are actually talking to each other. Huang tied housing to investments in transit and the environment. As mayor, I'll prioritize a five-year capital investment plan in partnership with the public, a system that puts climate, transit, and housing as a partnered solution. I will deliver a public bank that will support our funding this plan so that our investments return back to the public and not into the pockets of Wall Street. Miller emphasized increasing housing at every level. We need more affordable housing. We need more workforce housing. And we need more market rate housing. We need to make housing production more predictable for developers. We need to streamline permitting entitlements and approvals. We need to make financing easier in this city. The primary election is June 2nd. If no candidate gets more than 50% of the vote, the top two will head to a runoff in November. Christina Corona, NTD News. Voters in Florida's Palm Beach County head to the polls today for a high-profile special election in State House District 87. President Trump is endorsing Republican John Maples. In a post on Truth Social, the president called Maples a very successful businessman and civic leader. President Trump is urging voters to back Maples for his priorities, including cutting taxes, promoting domestic manufacturing, election integrity, stopping migrant crime, and the Second Amendment. Maples will face Democrat Emily Gregory, a first-time candidate who is running on a campaign of affordability. The district, which leans Republican, is located close to President Trump's Mar-a-Lago home. The Taliban have released U.S. citizen Dennis Coyle after holding him for more than a year. The group's foreign ministry says the academic researcher was released in Kabul. NTD's David Lam reports. After more than a year of captivity in Afghanistan, American Dennis Coyle is on his way home. The Taliban detained Coyle, an academic researcher, in January 2025 for, quote, violating the enforced laws of Afghanistan. But Afghan authorities never publicly stated which laws. Taliban officials say the United Arab Emirates and Qatar helped mediate the release and that it was based on humanitarian compassion and goodwill. According to his online support page, Coyle, age 64, was detained while legally working to support Afghan-language communities. His family said they're grateful to Secretary of State Marco Rubio and President Trump, who previously spoke to NewsNation about rescuing detainees. Well, I'm not happy about them holding anybody, and especially if he's not guilty of anything. And it sounds, I mean, from what I've heard, and again, I'm not that familiar with it like you are, but I will certainly take a very strong position on it. Rubio also thanked the UAE and Qatar for their assistance. Earlier this month, the State Department designated Afghanistan as a sponsor of wrongful detention, accusing it of engaging in hostage diplomacy. During Coyle's detention, he was reportedly held in near-solitary conditions, requiring permission to use the bathroom and with no access to adequate medical care. The Taliban are believed to hold at least one other American citizen, Afghan-American businessman Mahmoud Habibi. Habibi's family believes the Taliban arrested him in 2022, but the group says it has no knowledge of his whereabouts or condition. David Lam, NTD News. Foreign-made routers are now officially banned from the U.S. market. The FCC banning the imports yesterday, citing national and cybersecurity risks, especially from Chinese-linked brands. NTD's Melina Wisecup has the details. Foreign-made commercial routers, the boxes used to connect devices to the Internet, pose a quote, severe cybersecurity risk that could be leveraged to immediately and severely disrupt U.S. critical infrastructure and directly harm U.S. persons. That's according to a report by an executive branch interagency body. It's an issue that lawmakers and security experts have long raised concerns over. The CCP has targeted the grids that power our homes, the facilities that treat our water, and the hospitals that care for us as part of their cyber warfare on the American people. Now the Federal Communications Commission, or FCC, has banned foreign-made routers from being purchased in the U.S. Several security experts expressed support. Chris McGuire, a senior fellow for China and Emerging Technologies on the Council on Foreign Relations, said the ban would be extremely helpful and will effectively ban the future sale of TP-Link routers and other Chinese routers that pose clear national security risks. Chinese-owned TP-Link is the world's largest commercial Wi-Fi and home router manufacturer and controls a substantial share of the U.S. home routers market. While foreign-made routers won't be available for purchase, already purchased routers won't be affected, but security experts urged users to remove them. By having these routers in your home, you are exposing the attack surface of the U.S. critical infrastructure. They would want to cause the American people to be disrupted and concerned by cyber attacks against our critical infrastructure here in the U.S., so we turn inward and have that societal panic. He warns that the Chinese regime could use this as a distraction method to prevent the U.S. from being able to protect Taiwan against a CCP invasion. The chairman of the Select Committee on the CCP says that the FCC action protects America in a statement writing, routers are key to keeping us all connected and we cannot allow Chinese technology to be at the center of that. He's also calling on national security agencies to address other vulnerabilities like Chinese-made cellular modules and energy grid equipment. 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Joining us now is Ethan Gutman, China analyst and human rights investigator and author of The Xinjiang Procedure. First, talk to us about your latest book. It's a bit hard to describe because I painted the target around the hole I shot in the barn as usual. It's a bit of a three-ring circus. The first chapter barely mentions organ harvesting. It's purely about one woman, very, very dynamic and interesting woman, who was... It's one of the worst horror stories I've ever read or written or experienced in person as going through these interviews. I've got a very strong stomach. I've heard a lot of things over the course of my lifetime. This one gave me nightmares. Now I'm passing them on to the reader. That's an essential part of this because if you don't start to understand there's so many people sitting in their comfortable chairs, I'm looking at England here, who don't believe this kind of thing can be going on in the world. That's what I have to do. I have to come in and give them a little shock therapy and make them move into the next point, which is this has not stopped. It has moved. So the organ harvesting is a real program that's happening today. I'm going to dig into that because when some people hear about something like forced live organ harvesting, it's very hard to comprehend. It's very hard to believe. And then when there's numbers coming out, sometimes there's a big focus on that. The tens of thousands, we don't quite know. That's a conservative estimate. It can be very hard to remember that behind each number was a human being. And that's why I rely on field research, because you get the best of both worlds. It's actually the only way to estimate the numbers right now, because these are fairly reliable witnesses. And guess what? They're not even Uyghur. They're Kazakhs. The Uyghurs to them are like somewhat distant cousins. So in a sense, they're almost like middlemen. They were persecuted by China. They were in the camps. But they're not there to tell the Uyghur story. They're there to tell what they saw in the camp. And there's no great love for China either. But they do not have that same relationship, if you follow me. So it's a very interesting situation, because they are the only ones getting out on a larger scale than 10 people say, which is what we have here in America. And I believe their stories are highly compelling. You start to go through them, sometimes they're very ordinary. But there are a couple stories there. And I think the most important one is a woman who actually did this procedure, the beginnings of the procedure. She removed the large intestines of corpses as they came in. And eventually, she was gang raped. The person she worked with was poisoned, brainwashed. And she made it out to Kazakhstan in the middle of the night, one night, with basically the equivalent of $100 in her pocket, and started a new life. That woman, when she came into the room to interview in a safe house in Almaty that nobody knew about, and when she came in, she sat down, said hello, and then started crying and crying. And I'm not in television. So I try not to actually reward that kind of stuff. I'm a writer. So I tapped, gave her the tissue box. Ten minutes later, she composed herself and just started out on the story. And I think once she finished the story, she wanted to leave. This is, there is a lot of stuff out there. But to do it, you have to, it wasn't like the old days. In the old days, I could just go to these countries. Now I have to go in basically unseen and unknown. I have to trick the system. And that becomes a story in and of itself, which I also talk about in the book. Some people won't like those chapters. For other people, it'll be their high point in the whole thing. So we'll see how it goes. I want to dig into that, because as you mentioned, times have changed. So when it comes to how you got these stories, you didn't just protect yourself, but also the witnesses you're talking to. I think you've told me in the past, you had your son logging into your Facebook account to try and make it seem like you were somewhere else. Talk to us about what you had to do to get these stories. That was part of it. I mean, I had to create the illusion that I was still in London. So I took a whole series of pictures, one I'm in sort of Christmas garb, one I'm in New Year's, you know, hey, having a good time in London and New Year's. You know, Chinese watch your Facebook page very closely. So I just told my son, this is what you've got to do. You've got to put these up on these dates. Most of the time he did. And that helped. We did a lot of things. We disappeared from an electronic point of view. We disappeared into the Kazakh desert. There was no way to trace us. The car was untraceable. It was 2003. No chip. It was from Germany. It was from basically an anonymous source. There was nothing. We had all the computers were gone, shut down. We had a few burner phones, that's it. And then we had to go through a period where we had to drive through a desert which had no gas stations for about 12 hours. And that was what gave my daughter, who was my companion, absolutely the creeps. That was the spookiest part of the whole journey. And we were hit with very bad weather. But it did not end the way we had both feared, that we'd be walking, you know, sort of covered in blankets in the desert with camels appearing on the side. We had these fantasies. But that didn't happen. And ultimately we pushed through and we got to Almaty. And I'd set up two fixers there, two fixer translators, ahead of time. I knew they'd be slightly competitive. That's okay. They both worked hard. And we started getting the people in very slowly. And then it accelerated. And then we started getting sloppy. And so there's another chapter about that. And we nearly got caught at the Russian border. So it was interesting. I mean, the whole time we were never taking photographs. We were taking, she had film, a film camera, a Nikon. She was taking this. You have to develop that film. That's going to slow people down. There were no, the notes that we took, we had to make them disappear. Sometimes I had to commit things to memory. There's a lot of things we went through to make this happen. And mostly I enjoyed it. Actually, I found it kind of addictive when I came home. And six months later, I signed on to another tour, this time in Tajikistan. The next year it was a Kyrgyzstan event of taking out a family, extracting them from Kyrgyzstan and getting them over to Istanbul and ultimately to Northern Virginia, where they are now. So this was, it became its own fascination, which kind of explains why the book took a while. And who can explain how that works? But it was all, I think, mostly worthwhile stuff. And we gained a lot of research. We really understand now what China is doing in Central Asia, what they're doing, how many people are dying from organ harvesting at this time. These are the actual numbers. They're the best I can do. It's a range of 25,000 to 50,000 a year. That's a range, but it's in the ballpark. I stand by those numbers. As you just laid out, it takes a lot to cover something like this. What has changed since you did the slaughter, now the Xinjiang procedure? Who are the victims group? What are some of the patterns that you spotted? I think Falun Gong are still, of course, a victim group. There's no question about that. But there's two ways of looking at that. One is that they started to run out of Falun Gong to harvest because they're often not in the right age range, which happens to be 28 or 29 years old. But there's another way of looking at it, which is Falun Gong actually led a very successful campaign. They increased the pain threshold for Beijing. And Beijing started to realize, you know what? This isn't really worth it. We need to rationalize this system. Now, the American medical community looked at it and said, rationalize the system? That's great. That sounds like medical reform. No, it doesn't mean what we thought it did. It means that they moved it all to Xinjiang, OK, to the desert, where nobody goes. And they moved into hospitals. We know that they're building eight hospitals right now. There's a brazenness at this point about it, the way the Chinese have handled it. So at the same time, something happened politically that no one expected. And that was half of the transplant doctors in America and Europe split off and said, we're not dealing with the Chinese anymore. We're boycotting them. They can't come to our conferences. They can't write in our journals. We're having no more contact until they clean this mess up. Now, that might seem like a small thing, just getting half, but these are the heart and lung transplant doctors. So they're kind of top of the line. And they invited me to speak at their annual conference as the keynote. They knew what they were gonna get. Okay, so the interesting thing is that that's opened up the political side for the first time in a long time. Because in the political side, nobody really wanted to move forward as long as they saw, the doctors really aren't on our side. They claim they're having good relations with the Chinese. That made a really big impediment. That's gone now. The fig leaf is gone. Now we can see the real thing. And it's coming at a time when things are beginning to calm down a little bit. Well, we've calmed down some places in the Middle East. And there's kind of an opening for this issue to come back. Yeah, I wish it weren't that way. I wish human beings would just stay focused on things, but they don't. And I have to live with that. And I think Jan has got the same feeling, that this is kind of, we've got an opening now, okay? And he's coming at it from more of the sort of the political and the party side. I'm coming at it from the victim side. But together, I think that's a very impressive combination. And we also have Senator Sam Brownback's, former Senator Sam Brownback's book coming out soon. So we're all looking forward to that as well. On that note, earlier this month, a bipartisan bill targeting this very issue was reintroduced by Democratic Senator Jeff Merkley and Republican Senator Ted Cruz. What will it take to affect real change to end forced live organ harvesting? I believe that this medical aspect was the key, okay? This was the key impediment. Now, there may be other political force trading elements as well. But that's not my concern, and that's not really my issue. This was always the issue. And there's a lot of people responsible for that. Matthew Robertson, great researcher, Jacob Levy from Israel, fantastic transplant surgeon who moved the research along. You see, whenever the research starts to die, the fresh research, okay? That's when we start moldering. That's when we start dying on the vine. And the other side gains, Beijing gains traction at that point. When the research is coming in, and that's what I was trying to do here, and we could say, this is current, this is real, it's still going on for sure. Then we gain the initiative again. And that's happened again and again in the history of this thing. It is a long struggle. It is a twilight struggle. I wish it weren't. On the other hand, there are worse fates to have in life. This is a, I'm honored to be part of it. I'm honored to be part of this thing. Ethan Gottman, author of The Xinjiang Procedure. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, Tiffany. And that's all for today's news. 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