Off Road vs Off Pavement: What is "REAL" Off Road Motorcycle Riding?

Here's a conversation I'm tired of having. Every time I post an off road motorcycle test ride or off road motorcycle review on YouTube, I inevitably get at least a few comments asserting that riding a motorcycle on gravel roads is not "real" off road motorcycle riding. "A logging road is a ROAD" they say, so therefore I can't call any of the time I spend on gravel, mud, or snow true "off road" riding so long as I do so on what can technically be called a road. But is this the true definition of off road motorcycle riding? Are there people out there who truly believe that riding a motorcycle "off road" cannot include ANY roads at all, even abandoned or poorly maintained logging or fire roads? Do these people truly believe that real off road motorcycle riding can only mean taking off through the bushes and up the side of a hill, no roads allowed? Is it true that logging roads don't count as off road dual sport motorcycle riding or off road adventure bike riding? If that's the case, it completely ignores the fact that off pavement motorcycle riding requires an entirely different skillset than on road riding, even if you're riding a fairly well-maintained gravel road. It also means that none of the Backcountry Discovery Routes count as "off road" motorcycle riding because they are all comprised of logging and fire roads. What I think is really at work here is a little bit of condescending gatekeeping. Perhaps intentional or perhaps not, but either way to say that one doesn't understand that the commonly accepted definition of riding a motorcycle off road actually means riding a motorcycle off pavement is to be a bit of a condescending douche. Just because someone chooses to ride their motorcycle off pavement or off road in a way that doesn't meet your personal standard, doesn't mean that it "doesn't count" or isn't "real off road motorcycle riding." Live and let live. To each their own. Mind your own business and let people enjoy things.