Mattias Desmet and Aaron Kheriaty Talk about Why So Many Suffer from Profound Loneliness

Mattias Desmet and Aaron Kheriaty Talk about Why So Many Suffer from Profound Loneliness

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This is the 30 minute TV version of Jan Jekielek’s interview with Mattias Desmet and Aaron Kheriaty. The longer-form version was released on Epoch TV on December 28, 2024.

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America is facing an epidemic of loneliness, and it’s as bad for people’s health as smoking up to 15 cigarettes a day, says U.S. surgeon general Vivek Murthy.

In the past two decades, there’s been a marked rise in suicides and ā€œdeaths of despair.ā€
What’s fueling these trends of social fragmentation, isolation, and atomization? And how are they linked to broader political and social trends?

In this episode, two of the world’s leading thinkers on bioethics and group psychology join together with me for the first time.

Dr. Aaron Kheriaty is a former psychiatry professor and director of the medical ethics program at the University of California Irvine Medical School. He’s the author of ā€œThe New Abnormal.ā€

Mattias Desmet is a professor of psychology at Ghent University and author of ā€œThe Psychology of Totalitarianism.ā€

CHAPTER TITLES
0:00:01 - Loneliness and Deaths of Despair
0:03:07 - Loneliness as a Spontaneous and Intentional Phenomenon
0:05:32 - The Relationship Between Loneliness and Narcissism
0:12:27 - The Rise of Rationalism and Its Consequences
0:15:23 - The Interplay Between Technology and Totalitarianism
0:17:29 - The Deterioration of the Social Fabric
0:20:30 - The Lack of Intellectual Humility

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